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Bulbs => NARCISSUS => Topic started by: Kees Green on July 13, 2009, 02:50:45 AM
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I was just wondering if any one has any pics of true "Dove Wings", my one does not have the bright yellow trumpet. I will try to find my pic and see what you all think it is.
Regards
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Hi Everyone, this is what I purchased as Dove Wings last year, I am not sure that it is now but I still have it as one of my favourites. Any ideas on actual ID?
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Kees, not sure if you are familiar with the Daff Seek Web Site?
http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Dove%20Wings&lastpage=1
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Thanks David, I was not aware of it . It sure does look like the flower in type but not colouring, I like mine better :P
I am going to use mine for crossing so good to see if it fertile.
Thanks again.
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Kees,
How fresh are the flowers in your picture? Are they just opened, or have they been opened for a couple of days?
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A few pics of current Narcissus at my place....
An original 'Fyno', unlike the seedlings I was showing recently. At least it was purchased many years ago as this.
A more recent pic of my Narcissus 'Taffeta', showing it pretty much in full flower now.
Narcissus tazetta ssp laticolor (also called the Chinese Sacred Lily, apparently), what I received this as a few years ago, but I can't seem to find any info on that ssp. I can find ssp orientalis under that common name. So now I am not entirely sure what exactly the name of mine it. Anyone able to help clarify? Thanks.
Enjoy.
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Paul,
You will find Narcissus tazetta ssp. lacticolor forma canaliculatus, there was only a ' c ' missing.
This is a beautiful winterflowering daffodil indeed!
Gerd
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Gerd,
Thank you, that is why I couldn't find it when I went looking. Another very long name for a Narcissus. ;D I'm familiar with the miniature species Narcissus canaliculatus (which I can't flower for the life of me, and have now given up and mostly got rid of! ::)) but I am wondering why this would be form canaliculatus, or is that something to do with the colouration, which from memory is similar?
Thanks very much for finally solving that little mystery. 8) Greatly appreciated.
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Paul, you are welcome! Concerning N. canaliculatus I made the same experience like you did - no flowers. This was very disappointing because it was about the time when I began to cultivate daffodils.
Gerd
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Paul, that pic was from last year. Is has done well and looks like it has multiplied to 5 bulbs. I will take pics of it this year and post them. It must have been a good season last year as most of my miniatures have increased from single bulbs to 4-6 now, will be interesting to see how many flowers I will get though.
I have buds on Jet Fire, Tete tete and others I am not sure of. I will post pics to see if any one knows names for them as they flower.
I noticed a pic of UFO earlier in this thread but the web site that I was referred to has a differet one for New Zealand is a Div 2 white/yellow and not a poet-shame I had my hopes up. Will still be a surprise when it flowers though.
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Hello. At the nursery we are offering for the first time a daffodil we have grown for many, many years named Narcissus elegans var intermedius, see image below. This looks like a Tazetta type, is sweetly scented, 25 - 35cm tall and flowers early April under cover in a bulb tunnel. In John Blanchards Narcissus book N. elegans var intermedius it is also listed as N. pallidiflorus var intermedius but no description is written. Can anyone provide a botanical description of elegans var intermedius and does the plant below key into that description?? Thanks Rob
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Rob,
Is it an autumn flowering variant? N. elegans is one of the autumn flowerers isn't it? It looks like it could be a jonquilla type to me, or more likely an assoanus or cordubensis (or similar) to my inexpert eye (I am never quite sure of the technical differences between these two)? ???
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Yes Paul, Narcissus elegans is an autumn flowering species, the plant we have labelled N. elegans var intermedius / N. pallidiflorus var intermedius flowers early April - that's mid spring on our side of the equator :-)
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Hi Rob
we grow N. x intermedius which is a cross between a jonquill and a tazzetta, but yours doesn't seem to have as much of the tazetta in its appearance.
cheers
fermi
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Howdy All,
A couple of pics of one of the Narcissus in flower at the moment. I have pics of more, but haven't prepared them as yet. This is Narcissus 'Galligaskins'.
Enjoy.
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What a wonderful shape the Narcissus 'Galligaskins' plant is Paul - it's very attractive and the slightly wavy edge of the flower trumpets hidden amongst the explosion of leaves :)
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The leaves look to be good and firm making a nice 'hedgehog' clump to set off the flowers. Very nice, Paul.
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Wow, Paul. Just how many bulbs are hiding in there? It looks like a Narcissus crossed with Asphodelus acaulis!!
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Thanks David and Robin.
I am trying to show pics of the clump each time, instead of just an individual flower, because so many of them vary considerably. If you look at my previous pics of 'Taffeta' you'll see how different that is to this one, in where the flowers sit and how they are facing. I have another clump opening at the moment, this one of 'Tarlatan'. It has few leaves and the flowers are solid and chunky. Another totally different look. I am awaiting a few more flowers out before I post a pic of it.
Glad you're enjoying the pics.
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Simon,
No idea how many bulbs there are in there, as I didn't get anything in the "crocus garden" repotted this year. I think it was the one that multiplied from one bulb to about 15 the first year I got it, and this is it's second season in the ground since then. So I have no idea. Probably LOTS of them though. ;D
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It's not one I have heard of, though I don't really know much about Narcissus. Is it an Australian bred one?
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Simon,
Yep, It's a Glenbrook bred daff. Registered in 2002. I just checked daffseek to make sure I got it right (having got 'Taffeta' wrong earlier in this topic! ::)) If you don't have much experience with daffs, I can always help you develop an addiction to them. :o ;D ;)
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Hi Rob
we grow N. x intermedius which is a cross between a jonquill and a tazzetta, but yours doesn't seem to have as much of the tazetta in its appearance.
cheers
fermi
Blanchard says exactly what you say Fermi: a hybrid between Narcissus jonquilla and N. tazetta. The photo is Blanchard's book is exactly as Rob shows, closer to jonquilla. It is not, however, a form of Narcissus elegans, which has white petals and flowers in October.
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Paul, that Galligaskins is very nice. As others have mentioned the shape of that clump is fantastic.
Keep the pics going.
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Thanks Kees.
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Hi Paul- do you grow Narcissus from seed at all?
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Kees,
Yes, I have grown some from seed and have other seed fresh sown this year. My "Autumn Colour Strain" Narcissus tazetta that I have shown (I have more pics of those to post shortly) were grown from seed from the US. I haven't flowered many from seed as yet, and they do seem to take rather a long time to get any size on them, at least with the awful way I treat them. ::)
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Here's some more pics of some of my seedlings from the US seed which was crossing the early flowering tazettas. These are to add to the very early pale yellow/white one that started flowering in mid April. Many of these have been in flower for a month or more by now, in some cases longer. Just wanted to put some of them together.
Don't forget to click on the pic for a larger version!
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Some more hoop types that are in flower now....
Narcissus 'Twenty Fiver'
Narcissus romieuxii var Rifanicus JWB 89-23
And a comparison shot of the two to show mow different they are in size (which never shows up well in individual pics).
Then there are 4 pics of an unlabelled one I have. I can't get it to match anything I have out at the moment, but it has beautiful flower shape. I am assuming it is named and I have lost it somewhere along the line. I've included a couple of pics of a fresh flower, and a couple of pics of a flower that has matured. Beautiful shape to it, which is why I would love to know what it is. Anyone got any ideas?
Don't forget to click on the pic for a larger version!
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Paul,
I admire the different tones in Autumn colour strain - not only the plants, also
the quaity of the pictures!
Gerd
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I agree with gerd, Paul. So what's the history of the american tazettas- are there otherspecies in there? What do they do over winter? I guess you don't have snow there in April.
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Just gorgeous, Paul!
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Thanks everyone. 8)
The american tazettas were from a guy who was crossing his earliest multi-flowerers together, but I don't know exactly the species mix or anything like that. I've had at least 7 or 8 different variants so far, with significant differences in the start of flowering times, height of plants, size of flowers etc. My favourites so far are the earliest flowering one (because it is so early and it has flowers that open pale lemon and fade to white) and the white with yellow cup which has smaller flowers but they're always nicely arranged and still one of the earliest of them to flower. I'm hoping one of these days to properly separate them and plant different ones in different places in the garden, so that they can establish unique clumps and splashes of colour here and there through winter.
And no, Simon, we don't have snow in April..... we rarely have snow EVER, and never settles for long (a few hours). They flower happily throughout winter. The early one that started in the middle of April still has it's last flowers on it now I think, although they're not for much longer..... just went out and checked and the last flowerhead is on it at the moment. Not bad as that it more than 3 months of continuous flowers, just from that variety. When you add together all the different ones i have from the original seed it means I will have flowers until September I would imagine, as some varieties are only just opening for their first flowers for the season. Great stuff.
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And a couple more taken in recent days....
Narcissus pachybulbus just starting into flower.
Seedling Narcissus romieuxii from a friend of mine. Beautiful form and colour to it, and very early for a yellow one (an added bonus). If you recall the pic I showed a while back of the pot of the 'Fyno' seedlings.... this is what is "supposed" to be in the pot. There are a number of these in fact now coming into flower in the pot as the 'Fyno' seedlings finish. I'm going to try to separate them out as they flower, so that they're not all together. The one in the pic was shifted out last year or the year before into one of my large citrus pots (the citrus pot next to it has some of the 'Fyno' seedlings in it).
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Some more lovely plants, Paul. It is also good to see the fruits of different people's labours in different parts of the world. Prior to being on this forum I had never even thought of Narcissus, or Crocus, in America let alone the Southern Hemisphere. Silly really as conditions there when you think about it are obviously going to be more to their liking than the UK. ;)
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What beautiful Galanthus Paul and Otto. I see that Otto's camera seems to not do white well either like my little digital - I tried to photograph the Narcissus species whose name I can't remember.
Normal size tazetta but miniature white flowers - I had thought it was pachybolbous but not sure now after reading descriptions.
I have just picked a stem and put it on the scanner to get it right. The stem is even longer than is shown (it hung over the edge of the scanner!!!)
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G'day--well I'm going to have my first try to include an image with a post.This miniature daf seedling of mine is lobularis x candlepower.Seed sown in 2002, very healthy with 3 blooms this year.(http://)
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Paul,
Isn't that just a stunner!! Beautiful. I love the smaller species and varieties myself, so I adore that one. 8) Thanks for posting.
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This is my best seedling to date.It was awarded Res GRD CH at the Claremont show a few years ago.The breeding is Charity May x Cyclamineus.(http://)
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Paul,
Very nice. What sort of size is it?
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G'day Paul--the cyclamineus hybrid is too large for a miniature, but still quite small.It hasn't flowered yet, but is above ground, so it survived my relocation back to the mainland.I lost a lot of choice things.
If you like the miniatures Paul, what do you think of my miniature poet seedling.It's 35mm only.
Regards Paul
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Wow. Is that a pink cup, or a trick of the light? Lovely, whether tiny or not. But 35mm sounds gorgeous.
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It's great to have another Daff fan onboard, Paul R!! Love those little gems!
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Very nice seedlings, Paul. I like the first especially. Candlepower is a very good parent!
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Wow. Is that a pink cup, or a trick of the light? Lovely, whether tiny or not. But 35mm sounds gorgeous.
G'day Paul, not so lucky to have bred a pink miniature poet, yet very happy with this little bloke.I just hope it survived last summers 48c heat.Here is a front-on pic taken two years ago on first flowing in Tassie.
Thanks Anne.I used gypsy queen and candlepower quite a bit and now have some nice breeding stock.Also Snipe x L Lass has given me some nice pinkish min cyc that I think may be pollen fertile.Here is candlepower from last year, ---it breeds better offspring than itself.Have you raised anything promising from candlepower Anne?(http://)
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The front -on min poeticus sdl (http://)
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Great stuff Paul and Paul ! 8)
Gorgeous series of Dafs ! Thanks for showing !
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Anyone got a reliable source of Narcissus elegans? PC lists it but it is out of stock.
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Hi
Thought I would post me first Julia Jane and Ronieuxii for the year, and first ever actually.
That miniature poet looks fascinating, nice work.
On another note, do the bulbocodiums seeds sprout later that the bulbs pop up?, I have had 30+ extra seedlings pop up this last 2 weeks from seed collected from our Gardens and yet the bulbs have been up for months. This is the opposite from my other seeds and bulbs.
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Well I have MIA for quite some time. Not a pleasant time to be responsible for revenue generation!
The first of the Narcissus out.
Narcissus Wilma
The second pic is what I had purchased as N. triandrus!
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Oh, there you are, Ross.... we thought you'd got lost!
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Oh, there you are, Ross.... we thought you'd got lost!
Nope. Just work, sleep, work, sleep....
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Paul, I've not had Candlepower for long, but am hoping that the first seedlings using it as a parent may fllower next year. Can't wait!
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The first of the Narcissus out.
Narcissus Wilma
The second pic is what I had purchased as N. triandrus!
Hi Ross,
I like that N. Wilma; do you know who raised it?
As for your "not triandrus" at least it looks like a fair exchange!
A belated welcome to the Forum, Paul R.
cheers
fermi
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The first of the Narcissus out.
Narcissus Wilma
The second pic is what I had purchased as N. triandrus!
Hi Ross,
I like that N. Wilma; do you know who raised it?
As for your "not triandrus" at least it looks like a fair exchange!
Division: 6 - Cyclamineus Perianth Colors: Y Corona Colors: Y
Division Description: One flower to a stem, perianth segments significantly reflexed, corona usually straight and narrow.
Height: Dwarf - less than 32.5 cm (12.8 in)
Hybridizer: Bill Dijk
Year Introduced: 2002, not registered with the RHS
Country: New Zealand
Descendants: None
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This little golden treasure has opened its bloom in my collection. It was given to me as Narcissus gaditanus from southern Portugal - is this name correct? The flowers are very small - the cup is approx. 6 mm (1/4") in diameter and the whole perianth 12 mm (1/2") or so; the peduncle is also very short 30 - 40 mm (1 - 1 1/2").
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A beautiful wee flower Rogan. I hope I still have it? ???
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It looks correct to me Rogan, but then I'm no expert! ;D
Here's the description from John Blanchard's "Narcissus: A Guide to Wild Daffodils"
Bulb: Small to medium, globose, dark.
Leaf: dark green, erect-spreading, channelled at base, round at tip, finely striate on outer surface, 2mm wide, 20cm long.
Stem: round, finely striate, 9-14cm
Pedicel: 15cm.
Tube: green to yellow, straight or slightly curved (rarely more curved) 3mm diameter, 15mm long
Flowers: 1-3, ascending, 14-16mm diameter
Petals: yellow, reflexed, usually just imbricate at base, apiculate, 4mm wide. 5mm long
Corona: yellow, slightly darker than petals, cup shaped, faintly lobed but entire, 3-5mm high, 6-7mm diameter
Anthers: biseriate, 3 in corona, 3 in tube
Style: overtopped by anthers.
Hope this helps.
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Hi
Anyone know what this latest min daff is, any help would be great, it is about 4-5 inches in height.
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Thanks for the N. gaditanus description David, as Anthony says, it certainly is a "beautiful wee flower". If you've lost yours Anthony, I'm sure I can spare a bulb or two - unfortunately the seasons will be reversed - I'll have to set seed in that case...
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I meant to say that that mini yellow is only 3 inches in height maximum, not sure why I typed 4-5 must have been thinking about the Tete tete height variances I have at present.
This is a great group with people offering other people bulbs and seed, I really hope that in the future I will have some crosses that you guys will like to have and I can offer-might take a few years though :)
I find it fascinating all the different daffodil species and hybrids that are out there and to see pics of the species in their natural habitats are amazing, you sometimes forget that these amazing bulbs are native to some country. In the future I will have to visit the mountains of Spain, France and Africa-guess the kids will have to be gone before that can happen, so only another 20 odd years ;) :'(
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And don't forget they will return - you might find a small gap to escape ;D just kidding.
Yes it would be good to see the natural habitat in person of many of the Narcissus species and other bulbs and rhizomes and plants etc
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Is your little one N. asturiensis Kees?
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Hi
Anyone know what this latest min daff is, any help would be great, it is about 4-5 inches in height.
Kees , it looks like one I grow as N. minor
Otto.
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It does look like asturiensis, might be a bit small for minor.
Thanks for the ID's
I will post a lot more pics for ID's in the next few weeks, already have another out that I do not know.
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It does look like asturiensis, might be a bit small for minor.
Thanks for the ID's
I will post a lot more pics for ID's in the next few weeks, already have another out that I do not know.
The other possibility is that it's a hybrid such as "Little Gem", though it maybe a bit short for that one.
I've already posted these pics in the SH thread, but here again are:
Slip'ry
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Narcissus bulbocodium citrinus
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Narcissus "February Gold"
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cheers
fermi
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Kees
Your unknown bulb looks a bit like Wee Bee or Little Gem which are small selections of N. minor. There are other small selections of N. minor so it is difficult to be certain which one it is. There is also some doubt as to whether there are any differences between some of the selections of N. minor. It is almost certainly not N. asturiensis. The flower looks far too big to be N. asturiensis and the form is all wrong for N. jacetanus (a species that is slightly larger than N. asturiensis).
N asturiensis ssp vasculonicus
N. asturiensis - form with petals that do not inflex all that much
N. asturiensis - heavily frilled form
N. jacetanus - small form
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Interesting as I bought some last year which were named Wee Gem, I wonder if these are actually Little Gem, they are very small though, even smaller than the ones I posted but they do look similar.
Thanks for all the advise.
I will post some more pics when time and weather permit, I have a 2 year old birthday party this weekend down in Southland, will keep an eye out for old varieties. I got a few last year from the farm, a pseudonarcissus and some other small daffs. I remember they had a lot of doubles. It will be interesting to see what is up.
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What I received as Narcissus fernandessii.
You can see my little digital does not like yellow.
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Hi
Kees I have attached a photo of our Little Gem. It looks a lot like your flower.
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Narcissus Rival
Height: Standard - 32.5 to 67.5 cm (12.8 to 26.6 in)
Hybridizer: Grant E. Mitsch
Year Registered: 1976
Country: United States
Narcissus Daffy Duck
Height: Dwarf - less than 32.5 cm (12.8 in)
Hybridizer: Bill Dijk
Year Registered: 2003
Country: New Zealand
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Some more of the Hoop Petticoat daffs that I have flowering at the moment....
Narcissus 'Galligaskins', which many have commented on earlier in this topic. Just an updated pic showing what the clump looked like a couple of weeks ago.
Narcissus romieuxii 'Julia Jane'
Narcissus 'Ta-Julia' seedling (number wasn't given to me when I received it)
Narcissus romieuxii ssp ablidus var zaianicus forma lutescens
Narcissus 'Ben'Bler' - this small clump was at a friend's place, much more established than mine! Amazing size to the flower, and so substantial! :o
And the promise of things to come... buds on Narcissus cordubensis a week ago (quite a few of the flowers are out now as well)
Please click on the pic for a larger version. If pics are too large, please let me know.
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Are any of these hoop petticoats scented Paul - they are so jaunty and make me smile everytime I see them 8)
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Robin,
I have no idea. I don't think so, but I'ev completely missed perfumes before on flowers, until alerted to the fact that sticking my nose in them is worthwhile. ;D
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Paul,
you've made me green with envy! Wonderful, wonderful. I have only managed to get these petite ballerinas to bloom once for me. I have a few bulbs in a pot with almost pure gravel, plus a bit of organics, to see if I can get them to bloom this Spring. All my previous efforts rotted during Summer or Autumn.
You really have the green thumb.
Jamie
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Jamie,
And I have a hot and dry summer here. It helps! Your best bet in summer would be to dry the bulbs completely, replanting them/watering them in autumn.
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Ben Bler is a stunner, isn't it? :o
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Anne,
That it is!! Way more impressive in person. I have a flower on mine at the moment (the original flower was damaged by snails) and another bud coming along. No idea how it is multiplying, but hopefully it will increase!
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Most, if not all of the romieuxii forms are scented.
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Most, if not all of the romieuxii forms are scented.
Very good news - a raised bed should be just the place then :)
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Most of these have already beenposted elsewhere, but here they are again!
Narcissus "Jumblie" raised by Alec Gray, a sibling to "Tete a Tete" and "Quince"
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Narcissus "Orcluse" A GBF hoop in Rod's "detective series"
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Narcissus "Snowski" raised by Doug Bryce a Kyneton local,
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Narcissus "Tatiana(maybe "Titania") x N. cyclamenius" another one from Doug Bryce
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Narcissus "Rip van Winkle"
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Narcissus cordubensis
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Narcissus "Cyclades", A Douglas Blanchard hybrid.
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cheers
fermi
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I am very envious of both Paul and Hermi, I love the petticoats and miniatures with the long trumpets.
Great pics, that Ben Blar is fantastic. But orcluse ad cyclades are also fantastic.
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Fermi,
Very nice! I haven't come across 'Orcluse' before. Most of your Daffs are well ahead of mine, that is for sure. Have just had a flower on Jetfire and 'Tete a tete' open this week.... the first of the non hoop petticoat or tazettas to open. I love both of the Doug Bryce hybrids.... both very,very nice. 8)
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Lots of goodies there Paul !
Like some people mentioned before : Ben bler is a real gem !!
Further to discussions earlier this year it seems your Julia Jane is the real thing !!!
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Luc,
As far as I know it is correct? I find it quite distinctive. My 'Ta-Julia' is a seedling as far as I know, not the real mccoy. It would have come with a seedlin number, but the friend I got it from hadn't recorded it. They're often quite similar to the parent, but aren't the actual clone so I would never call them by that name alone.
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Paul - I can only repeat the remarks of others - 'Ben Bler' is a really stunning flower. Was it raised in the Southern Hemisphere?
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Gerry,
It's another of Glenbrook Bulb Farm's wonderful introductions. According to Daffseek this is another of the 'Little Detective Series', named after Benson and Stabler, the police detectives from the hit TV series 'Law and Order, SUV' (which is actually SVU, but that's neither here nor there ;D). Parents are 'Spoirot' and 'Julia Jane'.
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It looks like i may have ID's that little narcissus myself.
I have been handed a flower that is exactly the same under the name Gambas
Division Description: One flower to a stem, corona (cup) as long or longer than the perianth segments (petals).
Season: Very Early
Height: Dwarf - less than 32.5 cm (12.8 in)
Hybridizer: Alec Gray
Year Registered: 1964
Resembles a larger and better-formed N. asturiensis.
Mine is not that tall but definately taller than my Little Gem's
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Here is my 'Gambus' Kees. I'll bring a flower on Saturday.
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Thanks Lesley, I will take it home and compare to mine, I have "hopefully" crossed fertilized mine with pollen from Julia Jane to see what I will get. I had three flowers so if one works it will be interesting see what grows.
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Paul,
. All my previous efforts rotted during Summer or Autumn.
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Jamie,
Try keeping them dry and warm in summer - especially if they are Autumn bloomers. No water from the time the leaves dry off.
Brian
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The front -on min poeticus sdl (http://)
Paul,
Just catching up on Forum after a few weeks away.
I think you might have something really special with your little poet, especially if it stays at 35mm - could be a real potent breeder for adding colour to a range of miniatures! Any spare bulbs to sell?
Did we meet in Tasmania - or was it Perth, or both?
Brian
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N. Josie out now
Season: Very Early
Height: Dwarf - less than 32.5 cm (12.8 in)
Hybridizer: Colin Crotty
Year Introduced: 2007, not registered with the RHS
Country: New Zealand
Seed Parent: Snipe
Pollen Parent: Mitzy
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Oh, I like that one. :o
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That Josie really is fantastic.
Where did you get that from?, that is going to be on my want list, along with both the parents.
Fantastic pic.
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I found this pot today, of seedlings from N. 'Gambus.' Two have a little influence from N. cyclamineus and the third, has 9 sepals (tepals?) instead of the normal 6. I think I quite like it but it may not be consistent year to year. The little one is really tiny (smaller than in the picture) the corona just 1.5cms long. I hope it remains small next year and so will be perfect for a trough or small pot.
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The little one is really tiny (smaller than in the picture) the corona just 1.5cms long. I hope it remains small next year and so will be perfect for a trough or small pot.
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A beautiful little gem Lesley !!
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Out today:
N. henriquesii
N. Harmony Bells
Season: Mid-Season
Height: Dwarf - less than 32.5 cm (12.8 in)
Hybridizer: Matthew Fowlds
Year Registered: 1962
Country: United States
N. Bittern
Season: Mid-Season
Height: Dwarf - less than 32.5 cm (12.8 in)
Hybridizer: Grant E. Mitsch
Year Registered: 1979
Country: United States
Seed Parent: Matador
Pollen Parent: N. cyclamineus
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Another one
Emperor's Waltz
Season: Early
Hybridizer: Grant E. Mitsch
Year Registered: 1985
Country: United States
Seed Parent: Resplendent
Pollen Parent: N. cyclamineus
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Hi
Nice split Lesley!
I have attached a couple of photos of some of miniature seedlings.
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Ross, how tall is Josie, in real life? I find the official description of 'less than 32.5cm' very frustrating when looking up new varieties. It could mean anything from a pretty normal sized daffodil to one of Graham's tinies. ::)
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Hmmmm.....2-3 inches? It's little and very cute
BTW, it fades to all white, eventually
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Hmmmm.....2-3 inches? It's little and very cute
I'm liking young Josie more by the minute!
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Graham,
Very, very nice, particularly the second set of minis. Beautiful! 8)
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a tiny Rod Barwick -Tasmania- hybrid : 'Ferdie ' very good grower and multyplier ,with
N. cyclaminius next to it for size .
Ross , I like your ' Josie' , and as both parents were in flower inmy garden this morning
I attempted the same cross , and keep my fingers crossed .
N. 'Ferdie'
'Snipe'
'Mitzi'
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Beautiful, Otto. My Ferdie isn't flowering this year because I didn't repot it last year, but it certainly has multiplied well. Such a teeny tiny little thing.... absolutely adorable. 8)
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Ross , I like your ' Josie' , and as both parents were in flower inmy garden this morning
I attempted the same cross , and keep my fingers crossed .
N. 'Ferdie'
'Snipe'
'Mitzi'
I will be keen to see the results. I have some open polinated seedlings from Josie popping up now.
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Lesley, I have attached a photo of an intermediate split cup that is just over the size for miniature.
I have also attached a photo of a white 8 petalled seedling for you. I have been working to stabilise some of our 8 petalled seedlings.
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Will people please stop saying my 'Gambus' seedling is a split. It ISN'T and if it were I would have pulled it out and dumped it. >:( At worst it is a little weather damaged but the corona is quite whole and continuous.)
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In regards to Leslie's Gambas seedlings I have seen them first hand and they are all beautiful and not splits. Hopefully they will all stay in the same proportions and multiply quickly over the next few years.
Its amazing to see such variation from a single pod of seeds.
It was great to meet you Leslie, I think I am rather fortunate to be in the same city as a knowledable and generous person as yourself.
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Will people please stop saying my 'Gambus' seedling is a split. It ISN'T and if it were I would have pulled it out and dumped it. >:( At worst it is a little weather damaged but the corona is quite whole and continuous.)
Lesley
please forgive me I was only teasing and not meaning to disparage your lovely seedling :-X
This is a 6Y-O from GLenbrook Bulb Farm, "Itzim" a Mitsch hybrid (thanks, Graham)
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Another GBF Div 6 is "Stymie"
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A NZ hybrid "Tracey"
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This is a little jonquill which I think maybe N. wilkommii or perhaps the hybrid "Stocken"
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"Mitimoto" is a hoop in GBF's detective series
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
The 'Tracey' looks lovely. 'Mitimoto' is still in low bud here at the moment, probably at least a week away. I like your little jonquil thingy, too.
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I love all your little daffs, I have a few myself and sing their praises continuously - keep the pictures coming :)
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A floriferous clump of Narcissus cordubensis
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Paul,
Although your place is somewhat far away from Cordoba your Narcissus cordubensis seems to enjoy the conditions there a lot! Super clump!
Gerd
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Paul,
as already I mentioned in the Iris thread: A real wunderful clump of N. cordubensis you have! 8)
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Gerd and Armin. Thanks.
Gerd,
I have Narcissus fernandesii coming into flower right near that, and the Narcissus assoanus just showing buds a bit further along. All in the Crocus Garden I set up a couple of years ago. They certainly seem to be loving it. Another in a similar vein is Narcissus jonquilla that opened it's first flower today in a pot outside my front door. All these little multi-flowered daffs are gorgeous..... and the first of the triandrus hybrids have started as well. 8)
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Gerd, Paul's climatic conditions are very close to those areas of Spain where N. cordubensis grow which is a huge advantage.
Paul, I notice one of your N. cordubensis flowers is heavily indented but not split.
I have attached a photo of our exhibition form of N. cordubensis. It has overlapping perianth. I suspect whoevever selected it out did so for its superb petal coverage. We also have a form that is exceptionally split in the cup that we are using for breeding split cup miniatures. I noticed that our N. jacetanus split cup form is flowering. It needs to be crossed with our intermediate split cup seedling.
Lesley just joking about your seedling--we all know how much you love split cups (not)! Interestingly enough a genetic variation for splits is a similar aberration to too many petals. I have been doing a lot of breeding to stabilise our 8 petalled seedlings so eventually they will always have 8 petals. You can do this when you have a lot of 8 petalled seedlings. Our split cups go back to some of our species miniatures that frequently have 8 petals (N. jacetanus and N. minor pumilis). It is much easier than breeding colour into miniatures!
Fermi, Itzim is a Mitsch cyclamineus hybrid.
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Graham,
That is just so beautiful!! I realise that my forms of most of the species are nothing special.... I have noted (and coveted ;D) at the Daff show that you have far better forms of the species I have. While the species are beautiful, having the better forms like you do just makes them even MORE beautiful!! I'd love to be growing most of the tiny ones you stage at our shows. Hey, I can dream can't I? ;D ;)
Thanks for the lovely pic. Looking forward to 3 1/2 weeks from now when the Daff show is on, to see your treasures in person. 8)
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Paul, we grow some pretty ordinary forms of the species as well. It is just that I don't take photos of them. I have limited time so I concentrate on taking photos of our top quality exhibition seedlings and exhibition and rare forms of the species.
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Graham,
I'm fairly happy to just have ANY form of the species, given how hard they are to find. Just wish I could find better forms of them available (but realise that they aren't). I adore that cupularis you posted (not a species I have heard of before) and that second last seedling is an absolutely stunner!!!!!!!!! I want!!!!! :o :o :o :o ;D
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This is a short and chunky seedling from some local mixed seed of assorted hybrids. The flowers are very large for the height (10cms) of the plant and the foliage is quite wide. Didn't like it at first but I'm coming around to it.
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This is a short and chunky seedling from some local mixed seed of assorted hybrids. The flowers are very large for the height (10cms) of the plant and the foliage is quite wide. Didn't like it at first but I'm coming around to it.
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I like it. Chunky would seem to be a highly desirable trait in any cyclamineus hybrid, don't you think? Especially ones that look so much like cyclamineus itself.
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You're probably right John. Certainly my straight cyclamineus are lanky and thin but that's probably because they are in what amounts to long grass, at present. One thing is sure, cyclamineus seems to hybridise with just about anything.
Yout lilium seed arrived yesterday evening. Many thanks. Back to the seed sowing bench! :)
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VERY nice, Lesley. 8)
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Some more hoops in flower for me at the moment.....
Narcissus 'Ianmon'
Narcissus 'Mitimoto', which I note on mine has white petals, whereas yours posted recently Fermi has green. Environmental difference? The main clump of mine in the garden is still to open fully... this one was in a pot out the back.
Narcissus 'Spoirot'
And from Graham.... Narcissus triandrus hybrid 'KB/64/91/1N', just starting up.
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Paul I have just seen your Narcissus cordubensis clump - how lovely. If you have a spare of any of your species anytime.
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Pat,
Happy to obliqe! When dormant I'm happy to send you some of whichever species you're after. Most I now have in sufficient quantities to be able to spare a bulb at the very least. 8)
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Ah, what can I say - lovely daffs everyone... :D
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Nice Daffs everyone !
Love the sulphur yellow of your Mitimoto, Paul ! Funny name though ::) ;)
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Narcissus "Quince" is just starting, a few weeks behind its siblings "Jumblie" and "Tete-a-Tete",
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cheers
fermi
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Luc, Mitimoto was the name of a well known American miniature daffodil enthusiasts dog. You would be surprised about the origins of some daffodil names.
Mitimoto is an outstanding exhibition bulbocodium although I find Olumbo a more prolific breeder.
Paul, miniature 6W-P of the highest exhibition are very very rare.
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Graham,
I haven't come across Olumbo before. What's it like?
So you're saying that I have very refined taste when it comes to daffs then? ;) Yes, unfortunately I know I do.... tends to be expensive when I can actually source things. ;D
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Paul, your photos are really FAB: sharp focus and good colour. 8)
It is cold and wet here today and the sight of these colourful beauties is a great tonic!
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The front -on min poeticus sdl (http://)
Paul,
Just catching up on Forum after a few weeks away.
I think you might have something really special with your little poet, especially if it stays at 35mm - could be a real potent breeder for adding colour to a range of miniatures! Any spare bulbs to sell?
Did we meet in Tasmania - or was it Perth, or both?
Brian
G'day Brian--thanks for your assessment of my miniature poet.I've also been on holiday and been busy since my return , so have not been active on the forum.Yes I did meet you and your lovely wife in Tassie, but it was over a few drinks at David Jackson's, so maybe that explains something ;).
Now the story with this miniature poet is that I retrieved it from a row of my standard poet seedlings on it's first flowering.You can imagine the joy at seeing it.That year it was dug in the green as I was relocating back to the mainland.It didn't flower last year, but there is a flower stem forming on two plants where the name tag is--one plant is single nose , the other triple nose.I can't be sure that either is the min. poet, and now you've got me worried that it may not retain it's size!
Regards--Paul Rumkorf
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This daffodil came to me as Narcissus hispanicus,
Sorry for the poor quality of the pics - in a bit of a rush this morning!
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Any comments - does it look "correct"?
cheers
fermi
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Lemon Sprite
Height: Standard - 32.5 to 67.5 cm (12.8 to 26.6 in)
Hybridizer: Grant Mitsch and Richard & Elise Havens
Year Registered: 1988
Country: United States
Seed Parent: Daydream
Pollen Parent: N. jonquilla
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A few photos especially for Lesley because I know that deep down she really does like split cups!!
I have also posted some species photos.
KB intermediate 11Y-W seedling.jpg
KB intermediate 11Y-W seedling - side-on shot showing layering.jpg
KB N. jacetanus split cup seedling.jpg
KB N. jacetanus split cup seedling with only two splits.jpg
KB N. jacetanus split cup seedling in its pot.jpg
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Here are my latest daff to flower, if anyone has any ideas on the unknown please fell free to advise.
It has been a busy week.
I would like to know about the double that has remained in the trumpet shape, named Narcissus double-star-does this happen often, it is the first time I have had this one flower.
The lovely citrinus is with thanks from Leslie, it really is a lovely hoop.
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Andalusia.JPG
Golden snipe.JPG
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Citrinus.JPG
Citrinus 2.JPG
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Further pics-same in regards to unknowns
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Rosy wonder.JPG
Rosy wonder2.JPG
Unknow white-y-o sm trumpet.JPG
Unknown Cream-y-o small trumpet.JPG
Unknown div2.JPG
Unknown larger multi.JPG
Unknown small multi.JPG
Unknown w-o small trumpet.JPG
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Unknown y-o2 div2.JPG
Unknown y-o div2.JPG
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Ripening monophyllus seedpods
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This daffodil came to me as Narcissus hispanicus,
Sorry for the poor quality of the pics - in a bit of a rush this morning!
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Any comments - does it look "correct"?
cheers
fermi
Hello Fermi,
your Narcissus looks exactly like N. hispanicus var. maximus I have.
The stem looks a bit short but this can be due growing conditions. The height is usual ~30-35cm.
But don't ask me if the correct taxonomi is N. hispanicus var. hispanicus or N. pseudonarcissus ssp. major or something different... ???
Help is welcome!
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Glad you have 'Yimkin' Kees. It's a delight form plant and special to us because it was raised here in Dunedin many years ago by the late Carl Teschner, who lived in Montague Street in the NE Valley. All of which reminds me that I haven't seen mine this year. I must go and have a good look for it.
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Graham, thanks so much for posting those especially for me. It was sweet of you and you're right of course. Deep down I DO like split cups. Deep, deep, way down deep.....
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Graham, thanks so much for posting those especially for me. It was sweet of you and you're right of course. Deep down I DO like split cups. Deep, deep, way down deep.....
Aha! Lesley, I thought you might be a closet-split lover! ;D
More daffs in the garden,
Narcissus "Cyclataz", the parent of "Quince", "Jumblie" and "Tete-a-Tete",
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Some jonquilla hybrids, "Buffawn" and "Hesla"
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Some "exhibition" types, "White Ideal"
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And finally "Andalusia" which Kees also posted,
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cheers
fermi
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Leslie,
Yimkin is nice but it seems to be well liked by the slugs and snails, one flower was completely eaten in 2 nights and the one pictured has been nibbled as well. The plants were quite some distance apart and nothing in between was touched.
I have since destroyed half a dozen snails, but we have had dry nights so the little blighters have been keeping quiet.
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Fermi,
I just discovered 'Quince' in flower here too, not even realising I had it. I'd thought how nice it was when you posted the pic the other day, so was nice to find it here as a surprise today. ;D 'Jumblie' opened over the last few days as well.
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Some nice species and hybrids being posted.Most of all my daffs suffered terribly after the move and then last summer's 46c to 48c really knocked them for 6.From over 200 Triandrus albus specie seedlings, I have 23 still growing, and they are 2 years off from flowering.Most of my miniatures that are still kicking failed to bloom this year.
But then this seedling opened yesterday! It is sdl 01-345/1 Quasar x Triandrus albus, a Div 5 W-P.
Regards Paul Rumkorf
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Paul,
I love that seedling. If the pic is accurate, I'm assuming that is a nice pink?
Here's a few things flowering here at the moment....
Narcissus 'Quail'
Height: Standard - 32.5 to 67.5 cm (12.8 to 26.6 in)
Hybridizer: Grant E. Mitsch
Seedling Number: F72/1
Year Registered: 1974
Country: United States
Seed Parent: Daydream
Pollen Parent: N. jonquilla
Narcissus 'Rhapsody'
Hybridizer: William Jackson, Jr.
Seedling Number: 57/64
Year Introduced: 1964, not registered with the RHS
Country: Australia
Fertility: Pollen Only
Seed Parent: Green Valley
Pollen Parent: Filia
Narcissus 'Utiku'
Height: Dwarf - less than 32.5 cm (12.8 in)
Hybridizer: Max Hamilton
Seedling Number: 15-86
Year Registered: 1993
Country: New Zealand
Seed Parent: Ristin
Pollen Parent: N. cyclamineus
And lastly, a double that I bought a couple of pots of at a nursery recently just for some potted colour (they were fairly cheap for a change). I didn't realise they were going to be double at the time. There are a few that look quite similar to me, so I don't know which one this would be likely to be. I don't think it is 'Dick Wilden', but pics of that vary wildly so I don't know for sure what it should look like. ::)
Anyway, enjoy them, whatever they are. ;D
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Rhapsody looks very nice Paul !!
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Luc,
Fades to a pure white. Beautifully pure flower. I should be cutting some of these and refridgerating them for the coming Hort Show on the 12/13th, but I don't have the space to put them in the fridge. They'll be over by the show most likely, particularly if we keep having glorious days like today. Now forecast -2 to -3'C overnight tonight, so that will mean the end of the Magnolias already blooming I guess. :o
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I like Rhapsody too and also Paul R's seedling but the doubles leave me cold in this instance. You seem to be having colder nights than we are Paul (T). Haven't had a frost here for at least 3 weeks though the wind has been cold during the day. We could do with a good rain now. The magnolias are outstanding this year, the campbelliis have never been better and the later hybrids which are in bloom now are magnificent.
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Thanks Paul T and Lesley regarding my Quasar x Triandrus 5 W-P seedling and yes, it is pink. Not too many of that colour around yet, though somebody in NZ has a few beauties.
It received good comment when I posted the same picture on the ADS site the other day.
Here are a few of my double seedlings for you Lesley :-\
Brindabella x Achuckle -1
Brindabella x Achuckle -2
Giddygert x Surewin
Mattara x Kiwi Solstice
Redlands Too x Beauvallon
Regards Paul Rumkorf
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Paul
Giddygert x Surewin is lovely. I am determined to get some double seed to take this year
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A few more photos of seedlings and species from Keira Bulbs.
Nice doubles Paul.
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N. jacetanus seedling...with 6 splits.
Oh yes, that one is REALLy very.....what's the word I'm looking for?
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Would someone please identify these two for me. I've rescued them from long grass, with a note to myself to look after them better in future. The first is sun affected in the picture, a nice soft lemon shade.
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Is the second Jetfire?
As for the w-p pink miniature, I think it is beautiful and I would treasure it, I love the cup it gives it fantastic character.
I will take a further couple of pics of that interesting double I have, the double is still contained in the trumpet/cup-is this common, the only doubles I have seen are the typical bowl shaped flower. So then is this actually classified as still being a double? It looks like a normal Narcissus from the side until you look into it-I think it is fascinating.
Leslie that citrinus that I got from you is absolutely stunning.
It looks like I may have crossed Dovewings with Golden snipe-cross your fingers for me for a full ripe seedpod, there is still a flower but the seed area is already starting to swell markedly.
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I did wonder about 'Jetfire' but somehow it looks more refined than J which I've always though was rather coarse.
Glad you like the citrinus form of bulbocodium. It seems to have particularly large flowers.
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A few more photos of seedlings and species from Keira Bulbs.
Nice doubles Paul.
Really lovely collection of mini daffs, Graham, I love the N alpestris and the last one is very slim and catches my eye as you say it multiplies quickly - is it miniature too?
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N. jacetanus seedling...with 6 splits.
Oh yes, that one is REALLy very.....what's the word I'm looking for?
Horrible?
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Robin, what you are seeing is but a tiny fraction of what Keira Bulbs has flowering at the moment. Keira Bulbs specialises in hybridising exhibition miniatures. I have attached some photos of our shade house where I grow our wet program bulbs (including N. alpestris and N. cyclamineus). Our dry program involve a lot more bulbs than our wet program. I have a lot of other things on at the moment so I am posting a fraction of what I have in previous years.
The last flower is not an exhibition flower because it does not reflex sufficiently to be described as a good cyclamineus hybrid. The petals are a light yellow but it is more a murky light yellow rather than a refined light yellow. The code give that away. KS is for Keira Selected and the M is for miniature. However, it has very good parentage that includes 2 W-Y's so it is has been retained for breeding purposes. The fact that it multiplies quickly is a desirable trait that you look for in your seedlings. It is useful for breeding both miniature cyclamineus hybrids and standard flowers.
Lesley, 6 splits means that the splits sit back on each petal. That is the preferred form of a split. What you have to remember is that there are many forms of daffodils and splits can be just as natural as any other variation and should be just as appreciated!! In the case of our N. jacetanus split form, we had three flower this year so there were 18 bits of pollen to produce even more miniature splits!!
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Thanks for posting your working environment photos Graham and explaining your processes, it's great to get an insight into how experts breed and grow plants.
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Hi Robin
What I should have added was that it is hardy and an attractive little plant in the rock garden and in fact would be ideal for that purpose. That is the case with many of our seedlings that don't make the grade as exhibition flowers. That is true of many of our intermediates that have been developed from our miniature hybridising program. I will try and remember to take some photos of some small standards that we have bred. They are only intermediate in size but are only about 15 cm tall. They grow well in small pots.
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Perfect Graham, thanks so much....I'm looking to introduce more mini daffs into my Alpine garden in the Alps but they seem to take a long time to establish ::)
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I am 100% with Lesley on this one: 'splits' provoke strong feelings within me and horror is a polite way of expressing them - why grow a plant with such an exquisite natural form and then try and change it to look like something else? I suppose the same goes for doubles...
Then again, I suppose curiosity is a basic human desire, so why not have a go at creating something different even if it ends up looking like an abomination from the Dathomir tar pits? ::) ;D
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Just a few out at the moment
Elfin Dell
Height: Standard - 32.5 to 67.5 cm (12.8 to 26.6 in)
Hybridizer: John A. Hunter
Year Registered: 2000
Country: New Zealand
Seed Parent: Easter Moon
Pollen Parent: Pink Era
Bell Song
Height: Dwarf - less than 32.5 cm (12.8 in)
Hybridizer: Grant E. Mitsch
Year Registered: 1971
Country: United States
Seed Parent: (Wild Rose x Interim)
Pollen Parent: N. jonquilla
Limequilla
Height: Standard - 32.5 to 67.5 cm (12.8 to 26.6 in)
Hybridizer: Richard & Elise Havens
Year Registered: 1989
Country: United States
Seed Parent: Lime Chiffon
Pollen Parent: N. jonquilla
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A few more
Bob White
Height: Standard - 32.5 to 67.5 cm (12.8 to 26.6 in)
Hybridizer: Grant E. Mitsch
Year Registered: 1979
Country: United States
Seed Parent: Daydream
Pollen Parent: N. jonquilla
Marabou
Height: Standard - 32.5 to 67.5 cm (12.8 to 26.6 in)
Hybridizer: Murray Evans
Year Registered: 1984
Country: United States
Seed Parent: (Pink Chiffon x seedling )
Pollen Parent: (Rosegarland x seedling )
Radiant Gem
Height: Standard - 32.5 to 67.5 cm (12.8 to 26.6 in)
Hybridizer: Grant Mitsch and Richard & Elise Havens
Year Registered: 1984
Country: United States
Seed Parent: Matador
Pollen Parent: N. jonquilla
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Rogan, the split in the N. jacetanus is a genetic characteristic of that species seedling. There is enormous genetic variation in species daffodils but you have to grow a lot from seed to see that variation. What most people perceive to be a particular species is often only a particular form of the species. One seen as desirable in form by the collector. I am sure that Brian Duncan would agree that collectors look for attractive forms of the species. We grow highly attractive forms of N. cordubensis with perfect petal overlap and minimal splitting. We also have heavily split forms. Same for N. watieri and N. rupicola. A lot of the exquisite forms you are talking about are the result of breeding and selection of the best clones. As a hybridiser of exhibition miniature daffodils I spend a lot of time breeding exquisite forms and colours that utilise particular genetic characteristics. It just happens that one of those forms is split cups.
In terms of genetic freaks Limequilla is certainly one. It is fertile and the chances of that happening was minute but if you grow enough seeds then you can get lucky. Mitsch's got lucky with a number of fertile jonquilla seedlings and that has opened up the opportunity for hybridists to breed.
However, nature had also provided a genetic mutation in the form of a tetraploid jonquilla form. It is very rare and extremely difficult to get hold of.
I have what would be a magnificent miniature 1W-W flowering at the moment but for the genetic defect of having the ends of two petals missing. It is horrible. Bit like a bulbocodium seedling where half the cup is missing.
I have posted a photo of a new split cup seedling. It is a large miniature but it is just a miniature form of a standard split cup.
People either like or hate split cups but that is also the case with doubles.
I have also posted a photo of a micro miniature 1W-W seedling with the best exhibition quality petal coverage you can get in a tiny miniature. Perfect for the alpine garden but like the miniature 6W-P seedling I posted recently totally unaffordable.
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Here is that double contained in the trumpet and a few others that have started flowering this week.
If anyone knows the last one that I have named for my own records for if seeds are produced.
Thanks
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Unknown double trumpet.JPG
Beryl.JPG
Beryl 2.JPG
foundling.JPG
Sabine Hay.JPG
Unknown-pollinated by Dovewings 1.JPG
Unknown-pollintaed by Dovewings 2.JPG
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Robin, a few photos of some of our bulbocodium hybrids for you.
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A few more photos.
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A few breeders named above (I won't repeat them) should have been strangled at birth. ???
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A few breeders named above (I won't repeat them) should have been strangled at birth. ???
Lesley,
here's one "breeder" that I'm glad was allowed to live ;D
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It's one of Glenbrook's "breeders" "Jingle x Swagger" and won best miniature at the Kyneton Flower Show last Saturday ;D ;D ;D
I'll post more pics from the Show when I get a chance!
cheers
fermi
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Lesley, you are certainly tough. I hope you were referring to the breeding daffodils and not the hybridisers!! :o I am reluctant to do what you have suggested and it has paid off. We have a lot of small standards that most hybridisers would have culled but they are important to breeding good miniatures with colour.
Congratulations Fermi.
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That one is a delight Fermi. Graham, all Forumists know by now to take many of my very opinionated comments with a pinch - or half a kilo - of salt. I really do accept that everyone's tastes don't accord with mine and I'm happy that that should be so, but I still reserve the right to make my thoughts on the subject known. ;D ;D ;D
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I DO rather like the little green-tipped job. Is this your attempt to gather the snowdrop lovers into the Narcissus circle? :)
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Lesley, being a miniature breeder is a bit like being an evangelist. There is a constant need to convert those who do not appreciate the beauty of miniature daffodils! :o It is just a little bit harder with some than others!! ::)
I have attached a few photos of seedlings that are top quality exhibition daffodil seedlings that are destined for true believers. ;D ;D ;D
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Graham that miniature white/yellow is very nice. There is no need to convince me I think that miniatures are beautiful, that one in particular.
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That explains it Graham. I've always been highly resistant to evangelists of whatever shade. But I don't need conversion to miniatures, in fact I love them. It's just the split cups and most (not all) doubles that I continue to resist. ;D
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And are you a miniature breeder or a breeder of miniatures? ???
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A hybridiser of miniature and small narcissus to the grammatically and technically minded. :P I am not miniature. The cat is not miniature but my daughter's dog are miniature.
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Dogs are miniature and appear to be up with latest fashion trends. The cat is definitely NOT miniature. 8)
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Please tell me that Monte has NOT eaten the dogs!! He looks like he could have done ..... though their wooly costumes might be a preventive measure.... :-X
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Monte is short for Montasaurus. He is around 8.5 kilograms. Dogs are only around 4 kilograms. Unfortunately he is something of a softy (except when he is being removed to the cat house for the night when leather gloves are required). He lets the currawongs into the cat house to eat the cat food. He only eats an expensive brand of dry food. Dogs are alive and well but they give him a wide margin. The claws and teeth are in proportion to his size! He has taken over their dog bed.
It has been wet and cold here for the last two days. This has slowed up the daffodils. Most unfortunate as the show is on this weekend.
N. calcicola.jpg
N.b. pallidulus.jpg
NTT with 2 florets.jpg
Pot of N. cordubensis.jpg
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Hi
A few more photos. They include two of our tiniest hybrids. I have not worked out whether they are triandus hybrids or jonquilla hybrids. I suspect one of the parents was N. scaberulus.
Lesley, you will see that you don't necessarily end up with a split cup when you use N. cordubensis as the parent.
Apodanthe hybrid - N. rupicola x N. cordubensis.jpg
N. atlanticus.jpg
N. cypri.jpg
N. nobilis ssp primagenus - dwarf form.jpg
N. scaberulus.jpg
Tiny hybrid - is it a 7 or a 5.jpg
Tiny pale lemon hybrid - is it a 7 or a 5.jpg
6A-A - may be a little large to be miniature.jpg
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Graham, you have some lovely miniatures - I just love N cypri and the tiny pale yellow hybrid :)