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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Auricular on September 18, 2009, 08:46:18 PM

Title: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Auricular on September 18, 2009, 08:46:18 PM
Good evening,

this year many of my Haemanthus let me smile
 :D

some pictures from today:

Haemanthus namaquensis
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1202/namaquensis.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/namaquensis.jpg/)
Haemanthus bought as "species nova Namibia/Lüderitz" plant 1
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/92/haemspecnova1.th.jpg) (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/haemspecnova1.jpg/)
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7585/haemspecnova1ganz.th.jpg) (http://img171.imageshack.us/i/haemspecnova1ganz.jpg/)
Haemanthus bought as "species nova Namibia/Lüderitz" plant 2
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3163/haemspecnova2.th.jpg) (http://img223.imageshack.us/i/haemspecnova2.jpg/)
bought as H. coccineus but looks not like coccineus (2 weeks to late for the photo)
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5033/haem.th.jpg) (http://img441.imageshack.us/i/haem.jpg/)
H. x clarkei (also 2 weeks to late...)
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2254/haemclarkei.th.jpg) (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/haemclarkei.jpg/)


And some weeks ago, Haemanthus deformis
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9121/deformis.th.jpg) (http://img529.imageshack.us/i/deformis.jpg/)



Kind Regards


Bernie
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Alberto on September 18, 2009, 08:51:46 PM
Very interesting. You have to wait for leaves to ID them!

Alberto
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Auricular on September 19, 2009, 06:59:36 AM
Good Morning,

here are the leaves of the "species nova Namibia/Lüderitz" plant 1, the plant had 3 leaves 2007
The leaves are completely glabrous and only on the underside near the bulb are some red freckles

(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2352/specnovaleaves.th.jpg) (http://img4.imageshack.us/i/specnovaleaves.jpg/)

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8646/specnovaleavesunderside.th.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/i/specnovaleavesunderside.jpg/)

Here the leaves of namaquensis 2008
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3909/namaquensisleaves.th.jpg) (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/namaquensisleaves.jpg/)
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Auricular on September 25, 2009, 06:32:02 PM
Hello again,

today i made some pictures:

Haemanthus namaquensis
(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2152/namaquensisinflower.th.jpg) (http://img182.imageshack.us/i/namaquensisinflower.jpg/)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9971/namaquensisinflower2.th.jpg) (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/namaquensisinflower2.jpg/)

Im very happy that i will (hopefully) get one seed of the "back-cross" Haemanthus x clarkei pollinated with coccineus
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9770/clarkeifruit.th.jpg) (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/clarkeifruit.jpg/)

Kind regards

Bernie
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on October 07, 2009, 08:51:54 PM
My Haemanthus albiflos in flower now.
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Paul T on October 09, 2009, 01:05:54 PM
Bernie,

Beautiful namaquensis!!  :o

Tony,

Very nice form of albiflos.  Much better scapes than the ones I grow, which have much more slender flowerheads.  I did once have a similar form to that one but it was badly virused when I received it so I had to destroy it unfortunately, before the virus got into the rest of the collection.  The bigger flowerhead makes such a difference to the appearance.... mine are much taller and thinner, without that much more "substantial" look that yours has.  Very, very nice.  8)
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: angie on October 12, 2009, 09:15:56 AM

Tony & Auricular

Love the Haemanthus albiflos 8), how warm do you keep the plant.

Thanks Auricular for the lovely pictures :)

I have been thinking of ordering Hamemanthus but after some good advice I have been getting I might not be able to grow this in my greenhouse in Aberdeen :-\. any more help and advice on these bulbs would be appreciated.

Thanks Angie :)

Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on October 13, 2009, 03:01:34 PM
Angie

my albiflos sits on the kitchen windowsill all year. It often gets down to below 50f on winter nights and sometimes in the day.
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: angie on October 13, 2009, 03:16:02 PM
Tony

Thanks Tony I think I will give it a try.  :)
Angie
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on October 13, 2009, 10:36:39 PM

HI

Anybody know a good supplier of these ?

Eric
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: angie on October 14, 2009, 10:13:01 AM
Hi Eric

I have been trying to source these plants as well and have only come up with ( rareplants) web site. Its seems to be really difficult to find these kinds of plants. I am not good with the computer and looking through nurseries takes so much time but maybe your posting will help us both.

If l do come across the plant I will let you know.

Angie :)
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Paul T on October 14, 2009, 12:01:11 PM
Eric,

They do grow readily from seed, although it does take some years to get them to flowering size.  I'm hoping for my first Haemanthus coccineus from seed (from my own plants) to flower in the next year or two.  I think they're 4 years old at this stage.  ::)  A long wait, but still very cool.  Of course I have no idea what I am going to do with the 25 odd plants that I have grown from seed over a couple of years.... I already have around 8 or 9 mature flowering plants in the ground, and that isn't counting their offsets.  :o
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on October 14, 2009, 07:46:57 PM

Thanks Angie,I will let you know too if I source any.

Paul,I have not seen any seed contacts either. :( but if you want to lose any of your spares I am sure Angie and myself would be interested. ;)

Eric
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Paul T on October 14, 2009, 11:20:50 PM
Eric,

I can't recall exactly where Angie is (and I only remember yours because it's in your signature!  ::)  I have a brain like a sieve at times) but I'm sure we can arrange something later in the year when they're dormant.  I have no idea how easy they are to shift around between hemispheres though.
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: angie on October 15, 2009, 09:56:03 AM
Hi Eric & Paul

Paul I too have a brain like a sieve, mine is caused with age now I am over fifty the brain isn't the same as it was :( and I am hopless with computers. I haven't managed to figure out how to put my details on the posts. I live in Aberdeen only a few miles away from Maggie and Ian Young but sorry to say l don't have the knowledge that they have but saying this I have learnt so much with this forum and log everything on my computer that I think will help me in the future. I wish we could grow them in the ground, all my tender plants are in my greenhouse.I just love gardening out there nearly every day.
It would be nice to see some pictures of them growing in the ground if you have time to do this , I think you must be pleased with yourself growing these plants from seed 8)

Thanks Eric for putting my name  :)forward, what other bulbs do you grow ?




edit by Maggi: angie, I have sneaked into  your profile and added your location for you! M xxxx
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Hans J on October 15, 2009, 10:42:58 AM
Hi Angie + Eric ,

I grow a lot of Haemanthus and sometimes I have surplus of seeds ,seedlings or offsets.
p.e. I have in this time a lot of seedlings from Haemanthus albiflos ...
If you are interestet to swap or trade with me so please send me a PM - I can make you a list what is aviable in this time.

You should what is good for you with growing -Haemanthus can diveded in 3 groups :
evergreen ,summergrowing,wintergrowing

If you need further informations -please ask !

Best regards
Hans
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Eric Locke on October 15, 2009, 09:42:51 PM

Paul ,as you say I"m sure we can arrange something later . Thanks

Angie my main interest is growing orchids, but I grow quite a large range of other bulbs too and am always trying something different given the chance. ;D.

Hans I will be in touch.

Eric
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on October 15, 2009, 10:33:44 PM
Angie, this link may be of intetest to you: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/amaryllids/haemanthus.html

 also these: http://www.bulbsociety.org/      
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/    and their discussion pages   http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php    8)
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: angie on October 16, 2009, 03:55:39 PM
Maggie

Thanks Maggie,  :). Missed your happy face at the last meeting.

Angie :)
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: angie on October 16, 2009, 06:00:40 PM
Maggie

Oh! Maggie I forgot to say thanks for putting my location in for me :). I think I will need to take some computer classes to keep up with all you experts.
Enjoying the links you gave me. Hans J said to look back at the older forumsabout Haemanthus and its great ( thanks Hans J ) its going to keep me busy all winter taking notes from all the topics. I was too busy reading all the new ones, never thought about going back to the first posts but what knowledge there is back there. Just wish my brain would take it in.

Thanks Angie :)
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: cohan on November 19, 2009, 08:20:57 PM
hi all, i tried this post under the haemanthus seed topic, but no results, so thought i'd try it here instead...

i've just received some H barkerae, coccineus and crispus in the mail, and indeed, 2 of the 3 species (not crispus) have germination in the envelope in the two weeks it took to arrive..

so now the next step(s) i've been looking a bit at old messages, but maybe i didnt dig far enough, i didnt (yet) find too much about culture; i have got that the medium should be gritty, but bearing in mind that i am an underwaterer, usually, what else should be in the mix? my possible components are a clayey loam which i use for cacti and succulents, or i can use a bit more humusy loam, i also have small fibre coir, besides the gritty things...

i read jim shields suggestion to sow individually in 4inch pots and leave for several years; would others agree? should i enclose the seedlings in plastic bags for humidity as i do with most other seeds? what about light and heat? i have artificial lights that are on about 14hrs and quite warm, i have warm or cool window areas with medium light (haworthia zone, second row from window, first row is pretty much occupied)..i'm trying to get lights set up in a cool room for winter growers, would use a 12 hr or less regime there...
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Hans J on November 20, 2009, 08:01:30 AM
Hi Cohan,

please read the older topics for Haemanthus ....you will find a lot of informations for sowing !
I use plastic pots ( 9 x 9 )
My sowing material is for Haemantus : 75% mineralic ( coarse sand,gritt ...) + 25 % organic ( sowing soil without fertilizer )
I fill the pots and water it with boiling water ....after cool down you can sowing ( this methode is from Cameron McMaster )
Lay the seeds on the surface and fill it with gravel...but not cover it !!!
After this I make a plastic bag over this pot and I let it here in my room ( 20- 22 ° C )-soon as the root comes + the first leaves make away the plastic bag
When the leaves are a bit bigger you can give a little fertilizer
Please make no stop with cultivation when comes the 'normal'resting times for adult bulbs ( depending if summer - or wintergrower ) ....after 1,5 -2 years you can repotting ( if nessecary ) in single pots
To your other question : I use never artificial light - I have here a big window and I had never a problem ...later is it also not nessecary to give haemanthus in summer full sun ....
I grow also Cacti since more than 30 years ...it is a bit different -they have a other root system ...but if you have expierience with them so you will not have a big problem

Good luck
Hans
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Hans A. on November 20, 2009, 09:32:17 AM
Lay the seeds on the surface and fill it with gravel...but not cover it !!!

Thanks Hans,
I think this is a very important point I ignored - just because of covering  some of mine faded away.
Otherwise I sowed them, as all other bulbous plants, in a mineralic based mix with only little organic soil in 11x11 pots to avoid repotting to early.
This ones were sown in July.
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Hans J on November 20, 2009, 09:49:40 AM
Yes Hans !

All this fleshy amaryllids seeds like Clivia,Scadoxus,Haemanthus ,Gethyllis,Ammocharis ,Strumaria and other should be not covered !!!

A other point is before sowing this seeds to look from where the root tip come .....they should not look in the sky !!!

Greetings from Germany
Hans
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: cohan on November 20, 2009, 06:23:54 PM
thanks, hans, for the details;
i will dig some more in the older topics-i did already find some info on sowing (also in the current thread in seed section) so i think i am fine with soil and depth etc;
i just need to decide how many seeds to put in a pot, and especially how much light to give them;
i do have a lot of cacti, but there is not much room where they are, right in front of the glass, more room a little farther back (2nd or 3rd row of pots).. my tender plants never go outside, summer is not warm enough here..
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on December 05, 2009, 02:09:08 PM
Hans,
do you have a list of your winter and summer growing species, as some of mine seems to grow either in summer and in winter...
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Hans J on December 05, 2009, 02:41:39 PM
Fred :

yes you are right !!!
Some Haemanthus have a clear resting time ...but some other ....I dont understand it .
Normaly are H.humilis ,montanus,carneus summergrowers .....but they seems not to read any books !
I water it from April until September ....but they start in July .....now they are dry since September -we have December and they are still green  :o

All my H.humilis and ssp. of H.humilis and forms are grown from me from seeds ....so they are not confused from changing the hemispheres

Evergreen are : albiflos,deformis,pauculifolius
Summergrowing are : humilis, hum. ssp. hirsutus ,canrneus,montanus,
all other are wintergrowers
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on December 06, 2009, 11:36:32 AM
Haemanthus paucifolius or pauculifolius... like a small H. albiflos, evergreen and flowering now

Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: angie on December 06, 2009, 05:08:08 PM
Really nice 8) I like the yellow tips.
Angie :)
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Alessandro.marinello on December 07, 2009, 05:03:02 PM
Haemanthus paucifolius or pauculifolius... like a small H. albiflos, evergreen and flowering now


Fred
lovely, Which dimensions have the bulb? I possess also some, but still nothing flower
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on December 07, 2009, 05:39:14 PM
The bulb is not so big, about 6 cm diam, and it grows quickly !
Title: Re: Haemanthus 2009
Post by: Alessandro.marinello on December 07, 2009, 09:26:01 PM
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La lampadina non è così grande, circa 6 diam cm, e cresce in fretta!
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thank you, I must wait for years still one or two
Alessandro
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