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Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Otto Fauser on July 11, 2009, 12:46:11 PM
Before the autumnflowering Colchicum season starts in the Northern Hemisphere ,here are
a few winterflowering species in bloom in my garden this week . I'm not a 100% sure
 if my C. stevenii is true to name  .-what other species could it be ?Would like to know
 the correct name,
      Otto.
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Otto Fauser on July 11, 2009, 12:52:34 PM
Sorry forgot the names :
1-COlch. ?stevenii
2  "       doerfleri
3  "      szovitzii
4  "      burtii
5  "      hungaricum
       Otto.


Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Paul T on July 11, 2009, 01:12:00 PM
Wow, Otto.  I've usually only ever seen the lutea and kesselringii in winter.  I don't think I realised there were that many more.  Just love the leaves on the second one.... they look so furry.  Great to see so many new ones.   8)





Edit by maggi; I've made a new page for these..... bit late for the "early" page"....so "July" it is!
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Janis Ruksans on July 11, 2009, 04:51:38 PM
Before the autumnflowering Colchicum season starts in the Northern Hemisphere ,here are
a few winterflowering species in bloom in my garden this week . I'm not a 100% sure
 if my C. stevenii is true to name  .-what other species could it be ?Would like to know
 the correct name,
      Otto.
Dear Otto,
I'm in home now and can't check but if my memory still didn't fail - stevenii has many leaves, more than ten at least but there can be some confusion with naming, too. I will check on Monday when I will be at my literature in office.
Janis
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Oron Peri on July 11, 2009, 05:56:04 PM
Otto,

I agree with Janis, it is not C. stevenii [ has many more linear leaves and  flowers per bulb]
Seems more like  C. cupanii to me...?
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: hadacekf on July 11, 2009, 07:39:15 PM
I agree with Oron. I think too it looks like C. cupanii.
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Alessandro.marinello on July 12, 2009, 10:51:56 PM
Otto your Colchicum is magnificent, remains astonished to see in flower in this period :o
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Otto Fauser on July 13, 2009, 12:26:47 PM
Janis , Oron , Franz, thank you for your comments , but it can't be C. cupanii , which I do
 grow and which is an autumnflowering species . The '?C. stevenii' is flowering now[winter]
 and is a larger plant , broader leaves and looks more like C. burtii . Most important is the
fact that the seed was collected in Turkey where cupanii does not grow .
 
  Just spoke to Marcus Harvey in Tasmania ,who together with Norman Stevens collected the
seeds near Antalya , in the area where Crocus mathewii grows., on the road from Kalkan 
 to Elmali , a short distance before the 'Flowery Pass'. Janis you will know where that is .
 
    So we still need a name for it .
       
              Otto.
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: pehe on July 15, 2009, 07:47:00 AM
Otto, very nice colchicum.

Here is my first autumn flowering. It has rained a lot lately so it is a bit dirty.

Poul
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on July 20, 2009, 05:16:43 PM
my first one of the year has shot into flower.

It is from Mt Parnassus in Greece
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: pehe on July 24, 2009, 07:51:34 AM
my first one of the year has shot intop flower.

It is from Mt Parnassus in Greece

Tony,

Is it Col. graecum? I have not success with that. In 3 successive years I have planted this, but in spring the bulb was rotten ever if there is excellent drainage. This spring there was leaves, so I hope for flowers soon. How do you grow it?

Poul
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on July 25, 2009, 04:24:53 PM
I do not know the species,I think they have had the splitters at work on them. I grow it in a pot in a cold frame kept dry in summer in a gritty compost. No special treatment.
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: mark smyth on July 26, 2009, 09:49:59 PM
My first Colchicum, the rare, 'Lost Label' cultivar opened this week. It's small. I'll post a photo later.
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: mark smyth on July 27, 2009, 06:40:54 PM
First noticed on July 22nd was this Colchicum. Anyone know which it could be?
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on July 27, 2009, 10:09:00 PM
I have Colchicum graecum coming out now. A bit of a thug! I certainly wouldn't be planting it with Leucojum autumnalis, or Crocus vallicola, as has been suggested. ::)
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: mark smyth on July 27, 2009, 10:15:17 PM
I hope Colchicums arent coming out early this year. I have plans for a bed for all my big Colchicums and nothing else
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on July 28, 2009, 12:07:35 AM
Graecum flowers normally in July/August.
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Oron Peri on July 29, 2009, 08:31:52 PM
Janis , Oron , Franz, thank you for your comments , but it can't be C. cupanii , which I do
 grow and which is an autumnflowering species . The '?C. stevenii' is flowering now[winter]
 and is a larger plant , broader leaves and looks more like C. burtii . Most important is the
fact that the seed was collected in Turkey where cupanii does not grow .
 
  Just spoke to Marcus Harvey in Tasmania ,who together with Norman Stevens collected the
seeds near Antalya , in the area where Crocus mathewii grows., on the road from Kalkan 
 to Elmali , a short distance before the 'Flowery Pass'. Janis you will know where that is .
 
    So we still need a name for it .
       
              Otto.

Regarding the mysterious Colchicum Otto refers, it is C. triphyllum.
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on July 29, 2009, 08:49:20 PM
Janis , Oron , Franz, thank you for your comments , but it can't be C. cupanii , which I do
 grow and which is an autumnflowering species . The '?C. stevenii' is flowering now[winter]
 and is a larger plant , broader leaves and looks more like C. burtii . Most important is the
fact that the seed was collected in Turkey where cupanii does not grow .
 
  Just spoke to Marcus Harvey in Tasmania ,who together with Norman Stevens collected the
seeds near Antalya , in the area where Crocus mathewii grows., on the road from Kalkan  
 to Elmali , a short distance before the 'Flowery Pass'. Janis you will know where that is .
  
    So we still need a name for it .
      
              Otto.

Regarding the mysterious Colchicum Otto refers, it is C. triphyllum.
Here's the photo again.....C. triphyllum
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Oron Peri on July 29, 2009, 08:54:05 PM
Thanks Maggi.
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on July 29, 2009, 09:01:50 PM
My pleasure, Oron.  :)
Seems easier to have he photo near the name.... and Mark is also seeking an ID so it saves confusion with that.
Title: Re: Colchicums July 2009
Post by: Otto Fauser on July 30, 2009, 01:22:17 AM
Maggi , many thanks for putting a name to the Colchicum .
 I had been in contact with Oron last week and we both agreed that it had to be C. triphyllum - it is widespread  in that area .

 The season of the winterflowering Colchicums is coming to the end here - only luteum
 and diampolis still in bloom .
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