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Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: Diane Clement on March 30, 2007, 10:30:16 PM
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I love this little dwarf beardies, they seem to be easy in a pot or in the garden.
Iris suaveolens violacea
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Now that Diane so nicely have broken into non bulbus(?) I no longer have to think where to post my bearded irises.
That would have been great with an iris headline to have all iris related things there as an alternative to a long thread with everything.
I really like the smell of these purple ones. They are almost black in bud but become deep purple in bloom.
The white ones smell as well but as much as the purple. The white is also much smaller about 40 cm (flower stem) where as the purple is 60 cm. Might be due to different soils as well. The white one is planted with the citrines in what will in the futre be a citrus grove.
I will start the picturs with a Duch iris (bulbus) that I planted outside and that cost my mother-in-law a few cracked ribbs. She fell when going out to look at it's brother.
The brother of this one has spent time with the mother-in-law during her recovery. She is now much better.
Outside they lasts for weeks while at the glassed balcony a few days. They do not smell much if any outside.
The bearded iris last for a week but have several flowers so that compensates.
I hope to show more later.
Kind regards
Joakim
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But Joakim, your Dutch iris is BEARDLESS! ::)
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Before this thread was part of the iris thread under bulb general and hence the Dutch was the excuse to post the others.
Now with the new thread the Dutch are the wronmg one :) :(
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Sorry to have started this confusion by posting non-bulbous irises on the iris page under bulbs. :-[
I didn't know we were following a strictly botanical definition of "bulb" but assumed we were following the bulb-merchants definition - anything that can be dried and sent in the post - to include all underground storage organs, (although I think it's best to restrict it to monocots or else we end up with cyclamen and corydalis)
Now that Diane so nicely have broken into non bulbus(?) I no longer have to think where to post my bearded irises. That would have been great with an iris headline to have all iris related things there as an alternative to a long thread with everything.
Joakim
I agree with Joakim that it would be nice to have all irises together - there will be some oncos to follow soon, we hope - and not sure where to put them? ;)
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When I started the Iris page, under the BULB banner, I said that we'd use it for all Iris, but people seem to want to keep 'em in their "types" so perhaps I'll ask Mr Admin if we can have an Iris section under specific genera and we'll move all the Irises there! :-\
I'll sort something out!
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It's just that there are so many Maggi. Here's how I see it.
1 All irises should be in the Bulbous section as they all fit into the general definition of "Bulbs, Corms,
Rhizomes or Tubers" (So do Cyclamen and Corydalis of course.)
2 All irises are either Pogon (bearded) or Apogon (beardless) which makes for 2 topics for irises
3 However, while all bearded can reasonably be discussed in a single section topic (Bearded Irises),
the beardless types could reasonably be divided into 3 (Reticulate irises, Scorpiris (Juno)
Irises, and All other Beardless Irises). This last could contain all those which have relatively few
species grown in rock gardens, such as the Pacific Coast species, the tuberous spp such as I decora,
siberians such as I chrysographes, etc, etc.
But we all post things where we shouldn't which is one reason why I like to be notified of EVERYTHING, in case I miss something of interest. It's easy to delete what I don't want. It's only important to be careful about where we post, in order to make searching easy and archives reasonably useful.
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It's only important to be careful about where we post, in order to make searching easy and archives reasonably useful.
Good point Lesley, to which I add this: it is most important to add the names of any plants shown in a photo into the text of your post otherwise they will not be picked up by the search facility... of course, this applies to any photo subject, really, but it is VITAL if one is to be able to search for partuicular plants.
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Not sure what I did, hope I'm not posting this twice! Thanks for the tip about lime, Lesley, I'll make sure to put a bit in when I find its home. Meanwhile, here is a picture of a very lovely iris, I was at the Hexham show on Saturday and this one won the Sandhoe Trophy, well done Darren Sleep of Carnforth. It was so beautiful, the picture doesn't do it justice.
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AND add the name to the edited photo. How does everyone find an image on their own computer if there isnt a name?
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Lovely Iris suaveolens violacea grown by Darren Sleep, well done Darren ! Thanks for the pix, Chris.
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mark
I use the tags on photoshop elements. You can very quickly tag them when you upload them even if you are in a hurry. At a later date (ie never for me) you can find all a particular genus and name them if you want. I never bother to name them until I am acually using the photos, mind you most of the photos are of my own plants. If I take photos of other peoples plants I try and take a photo of the label first.
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Try this one in the Bearded Iris thread Chris.
I moved it here to the bearded Iris page! These blessed Iris are a flippin' pest! M
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Chris,
That Iris is rather beautiful. I love the miniature types too, although don't have that one. I have a couple of the smaller species style dwarf ones (with forms like the one in your picture) in pale blue, yellow and purple. The purple in particular is tiny. I have also got a couple of smaller species coming along from seed so hopefully I'll get some others in there as well. Great to see these little types.... so often people just think of the large ones as the "bearded iris" (not that I don't like the big varieties, I have a reasonable collection of the tall beardeds) and neglect the little species.
Great stuff!!
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Glad you enjoyed it, I just loved it. I have a tiny iris in bud in one of my sinks at the moment and I've completely forgotten where I got it and what its name is, so when it comes out, I'll post here to see if any of you can tell me its name. I don't want to rummage around in the roots too much to see if I buried the label completely, especially as it is going to give me three flowers in its first year at my residence.... so I'm waiting with baited breath!
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Since there now is an iris page I hope to see even more iris than before. Thanks for the hard work of moving the irises around untill they finally ended up here. A solution I think is great. :-* Maggi
Here are some iris from all over central Portugal. It will be in two parts
I presume all but the one I comment extra are iris germanica. Please correct if that is not the case.
First part.
I start in the garden with a purpur iris with a nice straight up right spike. That is often a lack with the Portuguese purpur irisis.
Then some irises from our summerhouse at Condexia (Conimbriga). More Pictures from there will be in Travels in Central Portugal.
Starting with a small iris that does not seem to be an iris germanica and had foliage more like iris sibirica side and top view. Please can someone identify it ??? I am not even sure it is a bearded iris and unfortunally the pics are not so good :-[
Then there is dark purpur outside the garden.
Then there are white ones outside the garden.
Then a nice bunch of white with water around.
There is then a plantation of iris in a unformal part of the garden with white and purpur iris.
They where often of this purpur to light purpur type.
The more formal garden has then a few iris gardens and here is one and the close up of a plant.
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More pictures and places
Here is the water garden with a closer view
Then there is a white one outside our garden chapell and a picture of the chapell ::)
Then we went to a small park /viewpoint in Coimba "penedo da saudade" where student engrave there get togethers after 25 or 50 years or so. There was a plant with the foliage of a normal bearded iris but with much smaller floweres almost the size of trictys (toad lilly). It grew close to a pond and was most likely also farely wet Full frontal and close up.
We then where hungry and since our son was sleeping we vent to macdonalds and there drive through. The parking space had nice irises. Extra nice since we saw similar yellow ones for the first tme in Coimbra but could not take any pics.
They smelled wonder full.
Pic of 2 yellow
Finally a purpup one
That is all for now bu there will be more in a travel report from central Portugal that will appear soon.
Hope You like the different gardens
Joakim
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Enjoying this very much, Joakim. I think your first unkown iris is a form of I. unguicularis and the second, with the wider leaves, is an Iris japonica type, but someone will know exactly, i am just saying a broad type, I am not good with Iris names!
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I'm confused with Iris pages! Can we not have just one page, pretty please!!!!!!!! ???
Yours sincerely,
Confused of Devon (ex Huddersfield)
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David I would think only tall, medium and dwarf bearded would be in there and everything else goes in to Iris.
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I'm confused with Iris pages! Can we not have just one page, pretty please!!!!!!!!
Well, no, you can't! I tried the one page apprroach, and started by putting that page in the BULB section, since the earliest Iris are mostly bulbs.... then the rhizomatous ones wanted space, then this that and the other, so now there is an Iris section and the Iris growers can sort it out for themselves!! :P
I'm not about to go sorting them out.... the Iris growers can do that or complain as they wish!! :o
You just stick with me and we can be confused together... and I'll eat your unwanted cake decorations as a bonus!!
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OK 8)
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I'll ask Mr Admin if we can have an Iris section under specific genera and we'll move all the Irises there!
Thank you Maggi for the new Iris section ;).
I eventually found it and noticed Mark had started a new topic but I had not received a New Topic notification. Then the penny dropped, as a new board I needed to click 'Notify' for the board.
I expect everybody else has worked this out already but if you have not, you might miss something if you like to read everything !
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Couple of little beardies to add: the blue Iris babadagica, and Iris attica from a JJA collection.
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Lovely I. babadagica Darren - definitely one to look out for.
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It is lovely isn't it? I recall seeing a picture in a bulletin years ago and was delighted to find one for sale by a nurseryman at a show. I think it is listed by Janis Ruksans this year, at a very reasonable price too. How come I can remember stuff like this? I can't remember what I did yesterday (which might be some use)!
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It is lovely isn't it? I recall seeing a picture in a bulletin years ago and was delighted to find one for sale by a nurseryman at a show. I think it is listed by Janis Ruksans this year, at a very reasonable price too. How come I can remember stuff like this? I can't remember what I did yesterday (which might be some use)!
Darren, It gets worse as you get older!! Lovely plants those. Since no-one has been forthcoming with advice to me on how best to grow the Iris suaveolens that I have just bought I wonder if you would help please? My original question was whether to grow it in a pot or to plant it out. I have a nice gritty little pocket in a new raised bed I have just made.
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Hi David,
I actually started to write a reply to your query yesterday but lost it before I could post it! I can only tell you how I grow it. I keep mine in a plastic pot under glass along with my bulbs etc. I see no reason why it should not thrive in a bulb frame or raised bed so long as it gets a bit of a rest in summer. If your winters are wet then some protection might help it too. Beware slugs & snails - ours seem greatly attracted to bearded Iris during winter.
In pots: 50:50 John Innes 3 and chippings (I'm currently using up a pile of old road chippings!). Repotted yearly in august. As with the garden bearded Iris, this is also the time to divide if you wish, and I usually trim the roots and leaves back by half before replanting too. Watering is enough to keep the compost just moist from repotting time until february. More water is given during active growth and flowering, through to about the end of May when I ease off on water again as the plants do become a bit tired in the summer heat and need a dryish rest to 'ripen' the new growth ready for flowering next year, though not arid as with bulbs. I use the Young feeding technique - just a dash of potash powder on the pot to be watered in during april.
The necessity for division depends on species, clone and your personal preference - I've seen show pots made up of dozens of divisions planted together to avoid bare patches due to old rhizomes. My suaveolens has never been divided as it is a form with very short internodes and there is not much 'dead' rhizome. My I.attica is the opposite and tends to spread untidily so needs division yearly.
Hope this helps!
Darren.
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Darren, very helpful indeed and thanks for taking the time to send me that advice. I have potted up my plant today and will grow it under glass.
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More Iris in the AGS North Midland Show at Chesterfield, Reply #22, try this link :-
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=424.15
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David I would think only tall, medium and dwarf bearded would be in there and everything else goes in to Iris.
Well of course it's true that all beared irises are tall, medium or dwarf, but then, so are all other kinds as well. Yes? And in any case, oncocyclus and regelias are also bearded, as well possibly, as pseudoregelias, though less obviously. In general, the beard is very visible, making the ID of a BEARDED iris, as distinct from others, very easy. Still confused David?
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Yup. It's the story of my life. If I ever, in my doteage, become absent minded no-one will will notice the difference. One of the young English commedians, Peter Kay, tells the story of his Nan attemting to change the TV channels with her glasses case rather than with the remote control. I spent a little while yesterday trying to open the car door with my spec case before retiring gracefully, and before I was seen by anyone-I hope, to get the car remote control!! :(
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Darren it's called selective bad memory. I suffer too especially when it's plants v work
My dwarf bearded are now starting very early. I didnt photograph any until the first week of May last year. The best by far is the heavily scented 'Open Sky'.
lost label and 'Enchanted'
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This is 'Pogo'
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Nice coloured dwarfs You got there Mark
I thought green lepricons where the fantasy figur in (N)Ireland not coulorfull dwarfs.
But they are lovely.
I thought I had a lot of cream coloured ones but realized that thht it was only one cream coloured and the rest blue. The foliage is 25-30 and the stems 40 cm so this one is an intermediate iris or what?
The cream colour does not have much, if any, scent :( but with a lot of flowers 8) even if only one is blooming in the pic and the rest have faded.
Kind regards
Joakim
PS the wild I. pseudacorus are flowering in central costal Portugal now
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I havent managed to catch sight of a leprechaun so far.
Later this year I'll be offering rhizomes of my Iris. They are taking up too much ground and need to be started fresh
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Great looking Irises Mark - I'll be lurking if you're planning to offer some... How tall do they grow ?
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Luc they are dwarf bearded
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Bearded Iris season just started this weekend in my garden.
Here one tall bearded "Witch of Endor" and two medium size which I don't know the names. Any hints?
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and the other two pixs.
Any help for identification would be great.
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They're very nice Armin, but ID is another matter unless someone has the exact same plant. There are literally thousands of named vars in tall, medium and dwarf bearded irises, coming from many different parts of the world. Americans, Brits, Australians, the French etc, go down slightly different breeding paths but eventually reach the same goals with virtually identical results but so many different names. It would take a brave man..... or woman....
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Sadly Four Seasons mail order nursery is closing down :'(
However John and Richard very kindly allowed members of the Hardy Plant Society to visit on Saturday and dig up whichever small bearded iris took our fancy - gratis. You can imagine we were all like children in a sweetshop, I restricted myself to a trayful some bits of the larger clumps will find their way to various society plant sales to help boost funds. Anyway here are some of the delights I picked although, as the labels were all over the place on the Iris field and some had become brittle and broken I wouldn't count on my names being absolutely correct but I have done my best :)
I begin with a few from the garden
Iris Cream Cups
Iris innominata
Iris Jeweler's Art
Iris Langport Wren
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and these were dug up on Saturday from Four Seasons
Iris Golden Ruby
Iris Hocus Pocus - sorry it's not, I've just found the name "Tattler" on it's leaf
Iris Hustle
Iris Mrs Nate Rudolph
Iris Star Sailor ?
Iris unknown
Iris Wild Lad
Thankyou John and Richard ;D
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No comment re the names. I don't know any of these. We tend to get American hybrids here and those of NZ breeding, sometimes Australian, almost never European and British.
A very generous gesture from the nursery owners though!
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Hi Brian
your "Cream Cups" looks just like an unnamed one in my garden! Till now I've just called it the "smokey grey one with brown blotch"! I'll compare a pic when it comes into flower next!
cheers
fermi
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Lesley
As you say it was a generous gesture, they could have just rotavated them in! It's such a shame that it was limited to the Hardy Plant Society and is so far from the bulk? of the SRGC members.
Fermi
I know that is the name it was bought under so hope that helps your identification.
Brian
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Very nice dwarfs.
Nice of them to let You pick the irises. Hope it (Your sale of them) helps to promote irises amongst more people.
I have a medium bearded iris that also came from Hungary but is now in Portugal.
It has dark buds 8)but the flower is lilac :-\and only with a slight scent :'( but very vigorous ;D with a lot of flowers :-*.
Here is a group picture and a detail. The whole bunch has grown in 3 and a half year from only a few pices from Hungary brought to my girlfriend“s mother (now my mother-in-law). The same goes for the tall one in the background very vigorous but not a bearded one so I put it in the iris thread.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Here are some newly bought plants that was flowerinh in early June but I never got round to post them.
I am now looking for nice scented ones and it seems to be yellow for the best and strongest scent.
Here are two one supposed to be white and the other yellow.
I bought them in bud and they both gave 5 flowers and thet where big and high. Much bigger then the old cultivars. The yellow smelled nice but not as strong as the yellow MC Donalds one I posted earlier. The off white was in real life a bit bluish but here it almost look pinkish I liked it :)
The yellow was higher than the yellow and had thinner top petals. It is seem as both side and top view.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Paid a visit today to Kelways Nursery in Langport, Somerset the Iris and Peony specialists and came away with a few bargains.
10 'lost label' Miniature Dwarf Bearded varieties-£5
2 pots of Scilla 'we can't remember what species they are but they are very small ones-call it 50p! I emptied out the two pots earlier this evening and they gave me 16 bulbs.
A pot of Camassia cusickii-£1. That pot gave me 8 bulbs.
For a Yorkshireman this was a near perfect day ;D
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David,
Your nationality is unimportant..... that would have been a good day for ANYONE!! ;D
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David I am licking my mouth such a good bargin it was :)
You have to pay by showing pics when it blooms 8)
Great one and I hope to do something similar soon ::)
Joakim
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I have just moved some iris I dug up and traded from Sweden to Portugal and wonder if I should have them in pots outside to enjoy the sun or have them indoors. Some has got part of the foliage cut while others still have it intact.
They would get an other two growing month here before thewinter rest outside so that might be better.
Or should they go to rest?
Kind regards
Joakim
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You don't say what kind of irises Joakim but unless they are specifically alpine house plants, put them outside. They may die down a little earlier than if they hadn't been disturbed but they'll do that anyway regardless of where you put them. If they grow some more, that's good, if not it shouldn't do them any harm.
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Lesley they are beareded ones of germanica type or atleast the ones going by "tall beareded type"
I will put them out and see if they grow a little extra. It was just if they are going into a rest and are "woken up" by a lot of sun would that get them so confused that they will have problem with the winter rest and then floweing next year? I think they will go out and if they continue to die down that will be ok and if they grow a little then they will get back to a winter rest later and then catch the "natural Portuguese rythm".
Kind regards
Joakim
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I guess this is late summer in the northern hemisphere so now is a good time to be dividing or replanting tall bearded irises. The best time in fact. Plant them in the garden ( preferably) and thought they may not make much new top growth, they should make new strong roots before the winter and be ready to flower next early summer. You could give them a dressing of lime at this stage, and some potash (a little) now or immediately after the winter. No nitrogen though as that will make them leafy and soft.
They won't flower out of season because of having been lifted now or at any time really. You could trim away the older and browning leaves from around the rhizomes and this discourages pests and diseases from hunkering down for a winter stopover.
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Thanks Lesley
I was afarid that going from latesummer/Autumn in Sweden to what is Summer for the Swedish irises would be confusing, but this changing in temperature may also happen naturally and they cope with that. The Portuguese are in their late Summer losing a bit of foliage.
I will see if I can plant them in the ground or if they will be in big pots.
Kind regards
Joakim
Here is a cake for You Lesley
It was the baptism cake for my youngest son Rafael
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Joakim, how could your youngest son fail to be a success in his life with such a cake to welcome his baptism? Success to you all!!
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Maggi Thanks for the well wishes :-*
The family in Portugal is bigger than the family in Sweden so his cake was bigger than his big brother“s. I hope he will do fine so far he has done that :)
Joakim
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Thank you Joakim. A lovely cake and tasted marvellous too. My very best wishes to Rafael and to all your family.
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The DBI are coming into their own as spring develpos here!
First an unnamed yellow with a darker patch on the falls - is this referred to as an amoena?
then "Knick Knack" and two views of two differently sourced DBI's which appear to be the one named "Tricks"! Or do they appear different to each other?
cheers
fermi
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Nice little irises Fermi. Mine are just starting. The yellow isn't an amoena but the blue and white `Tricks' is. White or almost white standards, and falls of a contrasting colour, usually blue, purple or brown, sometimes with a margin of the standard colour.
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Nice Iris Fermi, it's a joy to see them.
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Fermi it is nice to see pics of iris that is blooming not and not only as I do when looking for more to buy looking at irises that have bloomed.
It gets spring closer :)
I love them and just spend Saturday afternoon in planting them and extending the plant bed at my mother-in-law“s place. That is the Sousa and that name will be lost. We have all the other last names 4 of them.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Here are a few more DBI photographed this morning after a light drizzle!
Firstly, "Lasagna", which as Garfield says, "I never met a lasagna I didn't like"!
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nearby is "Zounds", a curious mix of colours which might explain the name.
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Next a mixed clump with "Tricks" and another which maybe "Bravita"
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and a close-up of the maybe "Bravita"
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The next two don't have labels but the first is a smokey-mauve and makes a good background to smaller bulbs - or it would if their flowering co-incided!
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and a rather sweet apricot coloured one.
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on the Southern Hemisphere thread I posted a pic of Iris suavolens so I'll repeat it here! You can see from the size of the Sempervivum flower that the iris bloom is quite tiny.
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cheers
fermi
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I love these DBI's Fermi !
Great collection ! Thanks for sharing !
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Thanks, Luc.
here's a few more "unnamed" ones.
First another yellow one,
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Next a nice deep burgundy one,
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And a purply one with purple beards, just opening this morning.
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cheers
fermi
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I bought 10 'lost label' DBI's from Kelways for £5 a couple of months ago, hope they turn out as nice as yours Fermi.
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Nice little collection You have Fermi 8)
I bet they like the sun in Australia ;D
David who needs names on beuties ::)
Joakim
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Fermi,
are these Iris pumilio ?
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Hi Luc,
Not really sure if they are I. pumila. They're mostly mixed hybrids that possibly have I.pumila in the breeding.
And here are a few more!
This is why I've labelled an early pic "Maybe Bravita", because there were two types in the one pot! Perhaps I'll name them B1 and B2!
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and another look at Iris suavolens.
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cheers
fermi
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Iris pumila is very small indeed, up to 8cms. These are more likely to be based on I. chamaeiris which is similar but a little larger in all parts. I. pumila is one which demands a very cold winter whereas I. chamaeiris will stand more heat. Modern min. bearded irises almost always (unfortunately) have at least some of the latter in them. For them to be thriving in Fermi's hot summer/mild winter, I'd bet they're based on I. chamaeiris, not I. pumila.
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Thanks for the info Lesley and Fermi - and at least I have my memory updated to find out it's I. pumila.... ;)
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Fermi,
nice tiny collection.
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There's more to come!
Here's one for Lesley,
"Kiwi Slices"!
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Then, "Seta",
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A taller but smaller flowered one that might be "Gingerbreadman"
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And of course, some unnamed ones! A nice 'electric' blue/purple with blue beards
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And another brown/mahogony
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cheers
fermi
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Sorry only to be good at saying what it's not Fermi. But not 'Gingerbreadman' which is taller, about 35cms and samller flowered yes, but a rich tan or gingernut colour with a lavender/blue beard. It has a very attractive smoothness to it.
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Fermi,
wonderful little beauties. I like them.
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Thanks, Armin,
Here are another couple open today, the first is an unnamed "black" flower with bluebeards,possibly Tarheel Elf
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and the second the first flowering on "Dawn Princess"
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She looks a bit cramped! I might have to relocate her next season.
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
I Loooooove that black with the blue beards, name or no name. Glorious!!
My first dwarf bearded is opening today (other than the littlie that you called suavolens, which has just finished for me) called 'Making Eyes'. I think you already posted pics of it previously so I won't do so. I'm finding that most of the things I have flowering at the moment in the garden are things you've had flowering a couple of weeks before me.
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Mmmm, the black is VERY nice Fermi.
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Too bad it isn't all black isn't it Lesley ? ;D
It is a beauty Fermi !
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Fermi,
the black one is really beautiful. You can be proud of.
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what's black and blue and admired all over?
Some real cuties, there, Fermi....the last black with blue beard is a much better candidate forthe "Blue Beard" title, isn't it, what a pity the name is already taken... and what's the betting your one already has a name which doesn't suit it at all... or is this a raising of your own? If so, extra congratulations to the proud parents!
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No, Maggi, sadly not my own raising and probably named but I don't think I was given one.
I'll do my best to pass it 'round (in Australia), but it would be better if it had its name.
I nearly didn't take this next one as it looks the same as the other burgundy one, but it's a little smaller and is named "Cherry Child"
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cheers
fermi
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Today's new flower is "Lime Ruffles"
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cheers
fermi
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Lesley, I found the clump labelled "Gingerbreadman" but I'm not sure it matches your description either!
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Anyway, here's one called "Fairy Footsteps"
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And yet another unnamed yellow, this one with a white patch on the falls.
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And finally another look at the black with blue beards which looks decidedly maroon under an overcast sky!
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi there is a Gingerbread man here
http://www.srgc.org.uk/shows/edinburgh/report.html
bearing in mind that this is taken indoors under light the colours are not quite true, but you can see the beard.
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Here is the pic of the plant from the show report Brian mentioned:
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Iris 'Gingerbread Man'
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Impressive "Gingerbread Man" - great.
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`Gingerbread Man' as I have it is much closer to tan than the one above. Maybe it's wrong, maybe mine's wrong. Can't photograph mine as I can't find it at present, among dozens of others. But it wouldn't be flowering yet as it's a standard dwarf, not miniature dwarf, and flowers about a month later.
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Lesley,
What's a "Standard Dwarf" in iris classification? Never come across it. Heard of Dwarf, Median, Tall, Border, Space Ager, Rebloomer etc but can't recall a standard dwarf as opposed to a miniature dwarf?
Light intensity affects colour so much that with individual flowers it is difficult to compare colours. All you need is a cool week and the colours of iris are so much stronger, while our warmth here bakes the colour out of them so much quicker at times. Warm this year, so everything is going to fade quickly here this season I'd imagine, unless of course I have finally neglected everything so badly that they don't even flower for me this year!! :o ;D
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`Gingerbread Man' as I have it is much closer to tan than the one above
Mine too Leslie, can't rush out and photograph it obviously!
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Paul it's all a matter of height but along with that, flowering time is relevant too. Because of their breeding based on I. pumila, miniature dwarfs are up to 20cms and flower early to mid spring. Standard dwarfs are based on I. chamaeiris and are up to 40cms (though mostly shorter, from 21-30cms). They flower about a month later. Intermediates (Medians) are 41-70cms and include table irises (smaller flowers, slender stems) and border irises which are basically shorter talls. Then there are the tall bearded which are from 70cms upwards. Table and border beardeds flower between standards and talls, though the tables are earlier than borders which overlap into late spring/early summer with the talls. In short, the smaller/shorter the variety, the earlier it flowers.
Rebloomers (remontant) are great because you get an extra flowering season, usually in the autumn while the space-agers, spoon types and several other forms describe what I see as aberrations which carry to extremes, frilliness, extra bits and pieces attached to standards, style arms etc. I'd like to hear Sweden's Peter Korn on the subject. To my mind they totally destroy the elegance and "style" of bearded irises and I wouldn't grow those kinds for anything.
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Lesley,
I was aware of all the other classes (although great to see them specified like that, as a lot of people don't see those classifications) but I had never seen a differentiation within the dwarf class. I don't recall it ever being mentioned in any of the catalogues when I used to collect irises somewhat more seriously a few years back. I rather like some of the space agers, so you wouldn't like parts of my iris collection. I'm guessing you'd also hate things like 6 pack and flat rate, where they have 6 falls held horizontally rather than having standards. The sheer size and similarity to Japanese Iris (Iris ensata) is amazing. I only grow 6 pack, but would grow others of them if I could find them and afford them. ;D I like quirky!! (No, really!! I realise that no-one would ever have guessed!! :o)
Thanks for the clarification.
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I don't have a real problem with flat flowers, like some of the modern ensata group (Ja[anese irises, formally I. kaempferi) it all depends on their lines and clean-ness of colour. I don't really like the so-called "doubles" though which have muddled, messy flowers with too much flower tissue in the space. All the species are lovely to my mind, and it's only when the "have-to-have-something-new" breeders get hold of them that things turn nasty. All a matter of personal taste of course.
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Thanks, Brian, Maggi and Lesley,
we may eventually sort this Gingerbreadman out!
Here's what is known locally as "Settler's White", mainly because it is often all that remains to show that someone had once lived there! It's a medium sized bearded iris and possibly the species I. albicans.
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and another look at the pale yellow with an olive patch on the falls.
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cheers
fermi
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Iris albicans yes, and the lower one looks like one called `Forest Glade.'
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Fermi I have searched through my iPhoto library and discovered a picture taken a couple of years ago at Glen Chantry. There was a wonderful clump of Gingerbread Man near the top of the rock garden, and it is where I first saw it. This is more like mine - and hopefully Lesley's :)
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Absolutely stunning Brian ! Great flower !
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Yep, that's it! Thanks Brian.
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And now for something completely different!
First flower on my only Arilmed, "Orb"
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Unfortunately the original supplier has obviously decided that this type of iris doesn't sell well and they've dropped off the lists!
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Not sure whether it is that they aren't popular or that they just have more losses growing them. The aril types can be a bit trickier to keep going well, particularly to keep at flowering size for selling purposes I'd imagine. There are some beautiful ones out there in the book as I used to grow a few of them, but I found them much shyer to flower for me and often nearly dying out if too much watering in summer.
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Yes please, bone dry after flowering until the autumn. Shouldn't be too hard in Oz :D
Try Pat Toolan in South Australia Fermi. And Marcus now has a good collection of species which will gradually be available I should think.
Here is my only Arilbred. I would like a name for it. Given to me a few years ago but without an ID.
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And this tiny is possibly `April Accent' (read September down under).
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I like that Arilbred of yours Lesley, we must try a cultural exchange!
Here's a follow-up to my earlier posting of "Settlers'White", this is "Settlers' Blue" which I think is a form of the Florentine Iris. Any guesses?
cheers
fermi
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I don't know this one Fermi.
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New today is the first flowering on a Median, which is either Taj Aqua or Aqua Taj!
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cheers
fermi
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A few more blooms of Arilbred "Orb" have opened and warrant a pic!
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cheers
fermi
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They are lovely, Fermi !
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Lovely Fermi, if only I could grow them!!
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David,
you'd have more access to this sort of iris then we do in Australia, but your growing conditions mean that they may require a bit of protection from the rain. A well drained raised bed is how I manage "Orb" here, it doesn't like potting mix!
Lesley,
you mentioned that you thought that the yellow and olive DBI might be "Forest Glade", heres' a top down look at it; see what you think.
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cheers
fermi
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That looks like it Fermi, although it's in the shape as much as the colouring. It tends to be a biggish flower, with quite long, drooping falls. Creamy background with the fall patch a colour sometimes described as olive-brown. Greenish, brownish.
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Here's another look at DBI "Zounds"
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cheers
fermi
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Hello Fermi,
you surprise me week by week ;) with great pictures.
"Zounds" is a great stunner.
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Hi
Maybe a bit late but I am with Brian regading the tanned gingerbread man he had on his old picture. That according to all pics I have seen on it.
For now we only have ginger bread here but I hope that my GBM survived and will flower.
Fermi very nice irises just as I am planting new ones I see some lovely pics of them.
Lesley I think I prefare the japanese irises in older style with less flat flowers and more space between the petals but I think it is a matter of gettin used to.
Thanks for the telling the differences between the two dwarf groups. I have seen similar distiction but not understood it since it was in Hungarian but now I get it :)
First look at "zounds" was it is "too much", second was "ok" and third "cool" so I do not need much time to get used to some things :)
Kind regards
Joakim
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It's the start of the season for the TBI and though we only have a few of the older sort, they are doing well and here are a few pics.
Firstly, another "old-fashioned" or "heirloom" type, received from a neighbour as "tall pale blue" and similar to the "Settler's White" in shape but taller.
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And then one of the named ones, "Silk Sari"
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cheers
fermi
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What beautiful subtle colouring on Silk Sari!
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What beautiful subtle colouring on Silk Sari!
Yes, it is charming!
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Thanks, Anne and Armin,
I like "Silk Sari" enough to leave it in the rock garden where it was planted by mistake! When we 'rescued' some pots from a nursery (which was going out of business) we didn't notice that it wasn't a DBI! It was in the same batch as "Bravita" which I posted earlier.
Here is what I think is a 'local' introduction, "Friedl", but I'm not sure who named it. It may even just have come from the garden of a lady by that name .
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cheers
fermi
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Howdy All,
Finally got some pics uploaded and will start with the Irises. I'll post some here, some in the beardless area, then other bits and pieces in the southern hemisphere threads etc (if I get them all done tonight! ::)). All of these are tall beardeds.
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This is Six Pack and is one of those that the purists may dislike (you can look away now! ;D) as it has 6 falls and no standards. Gives the effect of a japanese iris, with huge flowers like a plate. I wouldn't be without it as it is such a wonderful colour and a really good doer.
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This is another that the purists probably hate.... Thornbird is the parent of many of the modern space ager irises. To be honest, if it didn't have the dark horns I probably wouldn't grow it as it is a murky colour, but with the chocolate purple horns it is a very striking flower. Then again, I like pretty much all of the space age irises with their extra appendages below the beards. Another has opened today and I'll post pics of it when I get them off the camera.
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Life of Riley is an interesting blend of colours and has delightful tight ruffling all around the edges. Also something we "had" to get as our Cavalier King Charles Spaniel was called Riley (and called that because he'd have the life of riley at our place, so the iris name was even more perfect!).
Lastly for now is an iris I photographed at a friends place yesterday (Yes, she's offered me a piece of it)....
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Wearing Rubies isn't really done justice in the pic. The colour is rather nice but the bright orange red beards stand out very strongly.
Sorry to take so long giving you some photographic support here Fermi.
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Yes, right.
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Paul I was about to say that the first is a japanese beardless iris but since You said it was not I had to blow it up and It was cool 8) :o. Maybe an apple with the taste of pear if You know what I mean but nice and interesting. Not heard of this untill You meantioned it before.
Fermi nice with all the irises rescued from the shop at good prices. 8) It must feel good with such good result ;D Hope they will help You fill Your acre :o
I also want to have iris season now. ::)
But I am planting new ones now so that is also part of iris season is it not ;D
Hope to see more of the lovely ones
kind regards
Joakim
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Joakim,
There are a few of the flat varieties now.... I also know of 'Flat Rate' and 'What a Mixture' but I'm sure there are others as we do get stuff later here in Australia unless it is bred here. Glad someone is enjoying the pics..... I'm assuming by Lesley's comment that she doesn't like the different types... which makes it worth posting them. ;D I won't have a lot of flowers to show as most of my tall bearded irises are recovering from a number of years in pots while I was ill. Most are in teh ground recovering now, so the next couple of years will return them to their former beauty I hope.
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Lesley, Best look away now.... More space ager and unusuals.....
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This is my favourite of the space agers I have seen so far.... Mesmeriser has large spoons below each beard, giving an almost double effect. Lovely clean white, and a good performer to boot.
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Not sure even I like this one.... Total Chaos lives up to it's name. Was sent as a freebie to a friend of mine who didn't want it. I wanted to see one of the broken colour varieties in person before I decided for sure so I gave it a home. Still not entirely decided, but will plant it out in the garden and see what it looks like as a clump. Definitely different, but not sure that is in a good way! ???
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The word "virus" comes to mind.
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Lesley,
It does, doesn't it!? And yet my understanding of the broken colour irises is that they AREN'T virused. If anyone out there knows for certain I would definitely like to hear from them. In the majority of flowers this would definitely BE a virus, but there are genetic coloru breaks as well, except they are unusual to have in this striped/splashed form like these iris have.
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We had a training course at the historic House and Garden at Buda in Castlemaine in Central Victoria and I took a couple of pics there. Here are a couple of TBI's.
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and a two-tone MBI:
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I think these would be old varieties dating back to the time of the original owners, about the late 19th Century.
cheers
fermi
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Rather late to flower is a light blue DBI which I seem to recall might be named "Silent";
Here it is opening in the morning yesterday,
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and fully open in the evening:
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
I lvoe the colouration of that one. Very nice blue to it.
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Beautiful soft blue, Fermi ! 8)
Well chosen name too, I bet it didn't make any noise opening up !
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I can take no credit for the lovely, fresh quality of the following iris as they were shot in the garden of Roy Pavelin, a FCHS member who lives in Gladysdale, which I discovered is over 3 hours from where I live!
Many of these iris were named but I only discovered some of them!
Enjoy!
cheers
fermi
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Here are the last few TBI's from Roy's garden.
cheers
fermi
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How about persuading Roy to come over in January. He did last time.
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I was asked to put my Iris pics taken in the wild on Iris page. I see that this is an old topic, but I didn't want to start a new one just for these few images, so I put them here. :) I hope in a few weeks can also show you some Iris arenaria from the wild.
Enjoy.
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Kathrine,
thanks for posting these pics!
It's wonderful to see them growing in the wild and in such variety.
cheers
fermi
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Katalin Lovely :-* :-* :-* :-*
Where did You see them?
If it was in Hungary I am interested to know where and at what time they flower :)
We might need to change vacation time in the future :)
Thanks for sharing it is great to see them
Kind regards
Joakim
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Kathrine & Fermi,
what a flower show.
Super nobly! 8) 8)
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Hello Joakim,
Sorry, I was very busy these days, had no time for the forum. :'(
These Irises are on "Śjlaki hegy" near Budapest (it is part of Hįrmashatįr-hegy), and flower mostly in april (depending on weather). I can tell you the way more exactly if you will be interested some day. :)
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Hello Katalin thanks for the info.
The "mountains"/ "hills" are really close to Budapest even within city limits if I understand Google earth correctly.
Is this the "mountains"/ "hills"s one sees if one would take the highway to Balaton but still within the city? I think it is called M1. We often take the buss from Budapest to Zalaegerszeg but never imagined that there would be iris on the hills. Are they common in Hungary so that I could hope to see them also around ZALA on "mountains"/ "hills"?
Do You by any chance know of a nice nature park around Zala? Our friends are not that into natural gardening so we will not get much info from them. You should not spend any time looking for it since I might not have the time to visit only if You know them already.
Thanks again for the info and the pictures.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Joakim,
these hills which I spoke about are not in that direction. But near the M1/M7 (M7 goes to Balaton) highway there are the hills of Budaörs (within Budapest), which are also rich in rare plants, and also the environment is the same, so I can imagine there are I. pumila too, though I wasn't there in this time of the year. :(
Sorry, I don't know Zala, I have been only once there many years ago. My book does not mention Zala as home of Iris pumila. :(
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Thanks for the information Katalin.
The mountains I see from the highway look interesting to visit. Since I only see it from the highway I never visit it.
The lack of mentioning I.pumila in the Zala area explains why we have not seen them :( .
Take care and hope to see more of Your outings in Hungary :)
Joakim
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I have been asked by a friend to post this in the hope that someone may be able to identify them. Any thoughts?
dwarf bearded iris clump
dwarf bearded iris single
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They look like (relatively) modern hybrids Diane and so could be any of hundreds in that colour range. someone may have the exact thing though. The leaves seem quite wide.
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Back in August last I bought 10 'lost label' MDB's for £5 from Kelway's Nursery in Somerset, here's the first one to flower. The picture was taken, in a hurry, during a short break the Rain God's had taken in order to decide when the next inundation should take place.
The leaves of the plant are about 3 inches high so MDB is very apt.
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Looks like a couple of flowers are vying for the same position in the spathe David. Great colour though.
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Nice beards white and the other blue well done. 8) Hope more is coming :-*
Joakim
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Looks like a couple of flowers are vying for the same position in the spathe David. Great colour though.
Yes, it does look odd Lesley. If it ever gets dry again outside I will take a closer look!
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Here's an un-labeled tall bearded Iris from the garden today.
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Things certainly do look a bit damp at your place David. ;D
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Hello,
my own seedling infiltrated by compost for my rose bed.
After germination it took 4years to flower and the result is ok for me... ::)
Also some other bearded iris are in flower now.
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Armin Ruby Iris breeder supreme ;D
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David,
thanks for the compliment ::) ;D
Aren't the tiny successes hobbyists best motiviation?
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I don't want to put a dampener on a new breeder's efforts but it may be worth remembering Armin, that bearded irises really DON'T enjoy compost or anything humusy in fact. They like straight soil with lime. With compost - or manures - the rhizomes can quickly rot and the leaves tend to become bright green (instead of glaucous) and weak and floppy, then rot or get very diseased.
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Hello Lesley,
thank you for the cultivation advices. Your are quite right. ;)
I made exactly this rotting experience once I covered some Iris rhizomes with compost for winter protection.
I'll never do that again ;)
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Here are some of the tall bearded Irisses that are flowering in my garden this week:
1) unknown iris
2) unknown iris
3) iris 'Roman Rythm'
4) iris 'Vague ą l'ame'
Enjoy
Wim
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Wim,
very nice TBI's. Very difficult to indentify your unknown ones.
There are so many cultivars. ::)
Like "Vague a l'ame" - is very lovely...
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Here are some more that are flowering now:
1) unknown Iris
2) Iris 'Wild Yasmine'
3) Iris 'Burnt Toffee'
4) Iris 'Exotic Isle'
5) Iris 'Secret Melody'
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A few Iris pictures here from a visit, last week, to the University of Cambridge Botanic garden. The first three are general views across a pond and a stream side; followed by shots of Iris pseudacorus and I. sikkimensis; and to finish a few tall 'Beardies'-Alfred Edwin, Dawn Perfection and Indiana Night.
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Wim and David
Nice ones :)
Great to see some colour.
Kind regards
Joakim
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My favourite there is I. sikkimensis, only very rarely seen, maybe never in NZ.
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Lesley,
Yes, i is nice isn't it. Not one I've ever seen in person myself either.
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In the garden I have a small collection of 'Beardies' that I want to move to another part but it has been so wet this Summer that I haven't got round to moving them. Next Sunday (21st.) we go to Spain for a week and I have loads of jobs to do before we go. My question is-if I leave them where they are until we get back from Spain will it be too late to move them this year?
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David,
in our climate the bearded iris are very forgiving and the worse you can do is miss out on flowering for a season. However, with your rain you may need to dust the cut/broken ends of any rhizomes with sulphur or a similar anti-fungal.
Here's a dwarf species which I got as Iris schaactii, those soem think it might be I. reichenbachii.
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And the utterly tiny iris suavolens, taken on the display bench at the AGS Vic Group's "Garden Treasures" Talk last Saturday.
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cheers
fermi
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Hello Fermi,
to me your Iris looks more like Iris reichenbachii. Iris schachtii normally has more brown in its sepals (I've never seen an I. schachtii that is so clear yellow) and has a flower that stands higher and has smaller leaves but I'm no master-Irisconnoisseur so maybe someone can set me straight.
Regards
Wim
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Fermi, it is like what I grow as I. reichenbachii. Nice clump, by the way, anв so early in the season.
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Thanks, Oleg and Wim,
looks like more new labels!
cheers
fermi
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I agree with this determination too...
Here are picts for comparison
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Iris reichenbachii
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Iris reichenbachii ex Macedonia
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Very nice shots Gerhard ! Easy to spot the differences !
Thank you
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Thanks, Gerhard,
it's good to have the pics for comparision.
cheers
fermi
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Here are 3 Dwarf Bearded Iris in flower in the Rock garden,
"Little Vamp"
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"Tricks" (although Paul T has suggested this maybe "Making Eyes" so I'm open to correction)
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And an unknown as it flowered from a pot with one label and two different flowers! I've since managed to lose the label, so need to dig through my old gardening diaries to find it!
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cheers
fermi
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Three little cuties Fermi !!!
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Two shots of a yellow and white dwarf for identification - it does not usually have double the parts as shown here.
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Pat,
That is quite fascinating that it is sending up multiple stems with the doubling effect. I've seen them with an occasional flower like that, but that looks uniform this year at least. I'm glad you mentioned it normally flowers in the usual form, or I would have thought you had something that was stable in that form, given that there are multiple stems looking the same.
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Pat,
that's a curious one. Can you show a close-up of the flower?
cheers
fermi
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Some more DBIs;
Lesley suggested last year that this one is "Forest Glade"
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The next is a poor shot of a rather cute one called "Knick Knack"
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And the next is "Raspberry Jam"
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An unnamed one in lilac,
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a dark purple, possibly the same as "Raspberry jam" but from a different source,
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And one that has an electric blue quality to it,
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It's only the beginning of the season for these so expect a few more over the next couple of weeks!
cheers
fermi
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A couple of shots of the yellow and white dwarf iris which needs a name and which had double the parts on part of the clump earlier.
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Pat,
You'd barely recognise them as the same thing. :o So different with the doubling of parts etc. Great to have the larger sized pics for detail too. I would hazard that is a species or very old type by the shape of it.... to me it doesn't look like anything at all modern from a shape perspective.
Fermi,
Great pics. Some nice ones in there, that is for sure.
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Pat,
thanks for the bigger pic of your unknown iris; it's not one that I've seen before. Perhaps Lesley or one of our other iris experts might have a clue? Did you get it from Robyn R in Northern Vic? ( I noticed that you called it Robyn's iris on the pic label)
Paul,
thanks and there are more to come!
Here are a couple without names, a maroon one,
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and an "old gold"
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cheers
fermi
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Yes Fermi the unknown yellow and white came from Robyn R and I should imagine it is a species. I have grown seedlings from it by selfing it and I do think they were the same (without looking and a sometimes faulty memory says she!).
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You keep brightening these pages with all your beardies Fermi !
It is now clear to me you have more than 2 or 3 ::)
Might they possibly be favourites of yours ?? ;D
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An out of season Iris 'Gingerbread Man' flowering on11th. September. Another flower followed and a third on the same stem opened today, but they were a bit chewed by slugs.
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You keep brightening these pages with all your beardies Fermi !
It is now clear to me you have more than 2 or 3 ::)
Might they possibly be favourites of yours ?? ;D
Luc, you've guessed it ! Bearded Iris were the first flowers I learned to love when I was a child of 10, so it has stuck with me, though I prefer the Dwarf ones these days!
Here are a few more!
This is a new one for us, "Face-paint"
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One we got from a friend, and just called "Helene's gold"
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A lovely little one called "Lasange" (Like Garfield says, I haven't met a lasanga I didn't like!)
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A lilac and brown combo we got from another friend, Margaret<
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Another new one but the label is lost! I'll have to look up the diary from the year when I got it to try to work out which one it is,
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This one is a bit undernourished and the label is buried but I think it's the old hybrid "Hi sailor"
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I'd posted a pic of "Zounds" earlier in the year, but it's worth repeating,
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The next one we got a s"Milk Coffee" but it looks a lot like Roma's "Gingerbreadman"!
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Last, a mix of DBI's; the two browns came with one label, so which is the imposter?
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cheers
fermi
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Very nice colour combinations Fermi !! 8)
Difficult to choose from.
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Fermi,
That unknown dark one with the reference to checking your diary.... did you order 'Cherry Child' that year? Looks like my memory of that one. 'Hi Sailor' looks right for that name, but there is another very similar one from memory. "Lasange' and the lilac an brown combo look pretty speccy too.
I can't remember whether I mentioned it when I was down there visiting you, but I used to rent a yard for my irises a few years ago. I had about 400 or so of them (and now have only a small fraction of that). I have very few dwarf varieties now, much to my chagrin (they don't store as well in bags unfortunately, and died out), so maybe we can work something out regarding trading for a few pieces of some of yours to perhaps wing their way up this way? ???
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The Margaret one could be 'Cherry Lavender.'
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Fermi,
you have a showy DBI selection ;)
It is a pleasure to see!
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Mark, when I sent you 'Grandma's Hat,' I think I sent the wrong one. The clump I took it from is now in flower, a little white with a sky-blue spot on the falls. GH is next to it. I'll send GH as soon as they've finished flowering, which is the right time to lift anyway. I'll also resurrect the other label and let you know what it is. Sorry bout that.
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Fermi,
you have a showy DBI selection ;)
It is a pleasure to see!
Thanks, Armin.
And thanks to others for suggestions for names.
Paul, I'm sure we can arrange something; Victoria has a FTA with the ACT! ;D
Here are a few more,
starting with the "wild" iris in these parts that I presume is a form of "Florentine Iris",
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And this little one which I thought was "Face Paint" but it isn't and I can't find a label!
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The next one was relocated without a label and I thought it was going to be "Knick Knack' but it seems a bit different. ( Most likely this is "Fairy Footsteps" as suggested by Paul T)
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This is "Jazzamatazz"
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And "Kiwi Slices"
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I thought this one was also "Kiwi Slices" so didn't bother checking the label, but on looking at it on screen it seems a bit different! Maybe just the light this morning; I'll look for the label tomorrow.( I found it, too! It is "Kiwi Slices"!)
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All for now, cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
That white one with the pale blue edge... 'Fairy Footsteps'? Not sure, as I don't recall the blue being as wide at the hafts on that one, but could be attributable to environmental conditions. Not many white with plicata palest blue edging (if I'm seeing that correctly in the picture) in the dwarf ones I think. 'Jazzamattaz' was a favourite of mine when I used to grow the DBIs more, as was 'Zounds' (which I think I still have a tiny bit going of), and 'Windrose' (which I know I don't). Lots of buds starting here on the Tall Beardeds, and the DBI 'Making Eyes' has opened this week. I think I counted buds on something like 18 different varieties yesterday, but I still have a lot more than that. Most are recovering from being grown in small pots for a number of years, only being planted back out into the garden last year. Hoping to get back into showing them at our Iris show by next year, once everything has recovered enough to put on proper flower stems. So nice to see your DBIs, to remind me the irises are coming along here soon too. Thanks.
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Here are today's offerings, (the first three were also posted last year!)
"Seta",
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"Lime Ruffles"
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"Dawn Princess"
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and another one whose label I can't find! I thought for one moment that it might be the elusive "Gingerbreadman"! But I don't think so.
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That white one with the pale blue edge... 'Fairy Footsteps'? Not sure, as I don't recall the blue being as wide at the hafts on that one, but could be attributable to environmental conditions. Not many white with plicata palest blue edging (if I'm seeing that correctly in the picture) in the dwarf ones I think.
Paul,
I think it might be "Fairy Footsteps" as I do have that one somewhere in the garden, thanks again,
cheers
fermi
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They're all wonderful Fermi ... but 'Lime ruffles' and the would be Gingerbread man are among my favourites !
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Fermi I am far from an iris expert but the "ginger coloured DBI" You had might be Ginger bread man. Much more so than the one You suspected to be so since the one You suspected to be so is much more Yellow. The darker colour of Romas might be due to the different temperatures and sun at Your different locations. I think it looks like some pics I have seen as GBM and it seems to vary a bit. I have it but is is not yet flowering. I think both Lesley and I suggested that last Year but am not sure.
Very lovely collection
Kind regards
Joakim
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While in Hungary I visited a nursery (maybe garden center is better) that had irises and some where named and I think they came from a Hungarian Iris nursery that I been checking out but never ordered from.
http://www.iriszkert.hu/index.php?id=iriszek It is all in Hungarian but the picture says all. Prices 250 forint is 1 depending on what tim of the year it is. 230-250 to be more precise.
I bought four plants pots and they were all labeled. They removed a big label since that was there own so one is now unnamed and I can not remember what it is. This generally does not matter to me anyway but still bugs me a bit. I payed 2000 forint and that is 8 even though the sign sayd 660 each so I was happy.
The names I got was Low Ho Silver, Immortality and Vamp. The last two where planted in a mix with perlite??? Is that a smart thing? It might increase drainage but also retaining water?. One of the old stems had rotted so I had two separate plants so one went to Portugal. In the other case I split the rizome since it was a big one. The unknown had also two plants in it but Low How Silver had 8 plants and 8 small ones so I planted some in Hungary gave some to my Mother to bring to Sweden and some to bring to Portugal for trading. I also had one big one to be used for my mother in trading with the lady that sells honey that also have different plans in Hungary.
Sorry no pictures and only if people want to see what came to Portugal can there be any.
Now to my question do You split new bought rizomes that are big enough to be split?
The ones that had 8+8 plants needed to be split that I knew when I bought it but not that I would find so many there. This seems to be intermeriate and from the name it is likely but was not listed as such in the Hungarian nursery that did not have a picture so I will see what it turns out to be?
Any one else done some nice Autumn shopping lately?
Kind regards
Joakim
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Joakim,
our conditions (especially when you are in Sweden!) are very different but I think it's always a good idea to unpot newly acquired iris and check for rotting of the rhizomes as they don't particularly like pot culture. When splitting up clumps in cold conditions I think a dusting with fungicide or "flowers of suphur" maybe a precaution to take to avoid rot.
Here are some more from the garden today,
The clump of blackish-red DBI with blue beards,(possibly "Tarheel Elf")
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And a close-up,
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A nice little apricot-pink shade,
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And a better pic of "Mambo"
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
I do like that blue bearded blackish-red, and the 'Mambo' looks nice. Actually, so does the pink, so I probably should just say that they're all nice! ;D Buds on the TBI are growing at a great rate of knots, aided by the unseasonal warmth we're having. Today felt so much like summer!! :o Other than 'Making Eyes' the only DBI I have out at the moment was a surprise flower on 'Acid Print' which I discovered yesterday. Yes, I know I should upload pics but haven't sorted them out yet. Too tired now to do it unfortunately..... will see how I feel after dinner. It's been a long work week. ::)
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Howdy Fermi et al,
Here's a couple of pics as promised..... Dwarf Bearded Iris 'Acid Print' and DBI 'Making Eyes'. Off to bed now for an early night. Sorry I haven't uploaded anything else to any other topics.
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They're wonderful Paul !
Good night ! ;)
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Fermi really nice ones and Paul thanks it was a great ttreat.
Fermi what do You think about my guess of Your unknown DBI as "ginger bread man" several pages ago? It was my inital coment and it is farly well spread I think as it is an old sort.
I only had to make a physical break in two cases and for the ones going to Portugal it was not a problem since the cut dried and for the ones stying in Hungary they were planted without being watered. I was thinking on putting cinnemon ((canela) as they say in the rest of the world except the English speaking one) as it is working as a fungicide but did not do anything. Hopefully it is not a problem. Here is a picture of the one pot that did not need any breaking of rizomes since of fell apart by itself. First the obvoius ones and then 4 bonus ones. It was the last yer plant that had fallen into pieces. On the label it was stated that Low Ho Silver was an intermediate.
Does anyone else break up newly bought plants if they are big enough? It does not need to be out of being cheap it can also be a matter of trying in different locations conditions, even spreading over a continent is not the usual way. Sweden Hungary and Portugal covers Europe fairly well.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Yes Fermi the unknown yellow and white came from Robyn R and I should imagine it is a species. I have grown seedlings from it by selfing it and I do think they were the same (without looking and a sometimes faulty memory says she!).
Dear Pat,
I suggest that your wonderful Iris spec. belongs to the I. reichenbachii - group, it`s the most complicated group....
btw, I have got two different clones of I. astrachanica, so I hope for seeds in the next growing season.
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Dear Gerhard,
Thanks so much for that suggestion. I will work with that for now. Do you have any thought on the 'wild' two tone blue that Fermi posted too. We have this one as a 'wild' iris locally too - plus the white tall bearded. The blue and white is not as tall growing as the white and the leaves die down over winter to a certain extent.
Pat T
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Here's a couple of pics as promised..... Dwarf Bearded Iris 'Acid Print' and DBI 'Making Eyes'. Off to bed now for an early night. Sorry I haven't uploaded anything else to any other topics.
Paul, "Making Eyes" does look the same as the one I was calling "Tricks", so i guess I have more labels to correct! ;D
I like "Acid Print"; we'll include that in the FTA!
Now here are a few more,
"Cupid's cup" very similar to the lilac one I posted earlier but a different beard!
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I think this is what I had labelled as "Fairy Footsteps" so not sure how it traipsed over to where the other one is (I posted it earlier and Paul ID'd it) on the other side of the garden!
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This is what Marcus Harvey listed as a "Blue on White Plicata", looks more purple to me, a bit stronger colour than "Knick Knack",
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the latest to flower is a little maroony one called "Mini Dragon"
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
'Acid Print' will have to wait at least a year to go to you.... it is currently coming back from the brink, with only 2 fans and one of those is flowering. I am hoping for lots of offsets, in which case a piece will go to you as soon as feasible. Your pic reminds me to go and look for my 'Mini Dragon'.... can't remember where I've put the pot, or did I plant it out? Hmmmm? And as to how the Fairy Footsteps got to the other side of the garden.... well it is FAIRY footsteps after all. Where fairy magic is involved anything is possible. Just ask Timmy Turner!! ;D
Now THAT will probably confuse a few people..... TT is in a cartoon called Fairly Odd Parents. :D
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Joakim, we here rarely get a tall beared iris with more than a single rhizome or perhaps with a couple of very small new ones forming so not really breakable and while we do get the little kinds with several rhizomes, I never break them to start with. They establish much quicker from a larger "group" rhizome and if you want, break it apart next year when it will be even bigger.
In your first pic, I would trim away (a sharp cut, dusted with sulphur) the outer part of the rhizome, i.e. the part farthest away from the leaf fan, leaving just the current year's fresh rhizome growth. Nothing new will grow from the older growth. It always starts from the newest part of the rhizome. Actually there are two year's growth you could reasonably trim off. They'll only rot away anyway and encourage woodlice, slugs etc.
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Fermi,
'Acid Print' will have to wait at least a year to go to you.... it is currently coming back from the brink, with only 2 fans and one of those is flowering. I am hoping for lots of offsets, in which case a piece will go to you as soon as feasible.
Paul,
I'm nothing if not patient ;D
One more to show today, this one is very similar to "Making Eyes" but is called "No Contest",
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Same colour scheme but definitely quite different, isn't it. Seeing all your wonderful DBIs has me pining for my old collection of them. ::) I'd managed to forget how nice they were. :o
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Thanks for the comments Lesley.
The one with the multitude of plants was for sure in the place for several years since the main rhizome had rooted already.
I was a bit reluctant to do physical breaks with some of the others but if You want to have them in two places and are not sure they will not dissapear in the first I chose to make the gamble. The "old rhizome" had roots so I left it there hoping it would help the plant to get going. Now they are planted some 2000 km away and will have to manage on there own. Can the old rhizome not be "tricked" into sprauting again like back bulbs of orchids if it is separated from the new growth? Anyone tested?
Lovely little wonders there Fermi very strong personality I would say. Like all that is collectable there sometimes are not much difference between some plants and there is also a lot of variation in colour with temperature and sun I would bet. At lease the photo of the same plant differs depending on the nursery. Sometimes only the conditions on how the photo was taken and sometimes the differences are real.
Kind regards and keep them coming it gives me (us) a feeling of spring/summer.
Joakim
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Joakim,
I find that old rhizomes separated from the newer bits will quite often sprout. it really depends how old they actually are, and in what state (i.e if starting to rot then nothing happens as it all goes to mush). I have a bag near my front door of the left over bits when I dug and replanted a couple of irises in my front garden last summer..... lots of new shoots appeared. Must plant them somewhere to grow on.... one was black and one was white so the combination of the two mixed up could look quite effective in a garden somewhere, if I had the space to spare. I am still trying to find places for all the other irises I have in pots to go into the ground.
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If you DO get some growths from the old rhizomes Paul and Joakim, they will be small and weak and never make really good plants. You can grow them on to flowering size eventually, maybe 3 years but by that time your original new growths will be bigger, better and with many new rhizomes of their own, much stronger, so why would you bother?
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Seeing all your wonderful DBIs has me pining for my old collection of them. ::)
Me too Paul, so prior to stocking up on some new ones, I'm stocking up on some catalogues. Sent off yesterday for 4 iris catalogues, 2 only doing DBs the others a full range of sizes.
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If you DO get some growths from the old rhizomes Paul and Joakim, they will be small and weak and never make really good plants. You can grow them on to flowering size eventually, maybe 3 years but by that time your original new growths will be bigger, better and with many new rhizomes of their own, much stronger, so why would you bother?
Lesley,
If the iris is desirable enough and one that you want to build up then I would definitely bother. You're using something you would otherwise be throwing out, so there is no loss on any other level, and in 3 years you have both the offsets from the plant, PLUS the extras that would otherwise have been thrown out material. It certainly isn't something you'd do all the time, just in particularly desirable varieties where you're trying to build up stock.
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Fermi,
have you worked out the name of the blue-bearded blackish-red you posted on the last page?
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Paul and Lesley thanks for the information about using old rhizomes not something I will do on a regular basis (partly since I often let the old rhizome stay with the plant) I think, but if it is looking good why not try and then divide again to make it a better looking plant. Some very vigourus are growing so strongly that it does not seem necessary to try but others are not that vigourus so maybe they are worth it if time and space permit its.
Paul plant them somewhere where they will look nice even if it is outside of Your garden. Gerilla gardening or just improving the comunity as it is better to call it. Iris generally make things nicer I would say. :)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Fermi,
have you worked out the name of the blue-bearded blackish-red you posted on the last page?
No, I haven't, Paul; have you a suggestion?
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
No. I have a friend here in Canberra who has one the same in flower in her garden (just purchased last year, but she's lost the name). Was hoping you might have found a name for it by now. ;) Ah well. I liked your photos, but it was even nicer in person. I took a pic of it at her place when I was there and when I compared it to your pics it is definitely exactly the same thing (even down to the slight white marks at the hafts/beside the beards). The blue on dark stands out gloriously. :o Can't order it from an iris nursery if I can't find a name for it. :'(
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Can't order it from an iris nursery if I can't find a name for it. :'(
Paul,
No need to order it, I have enough to spare for the FTA!
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Yes, but do I have enough to send you to honour the FTA?? :o Irises alone at your end are starting to stack up. ::)
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Howdy All,
The Tall Bearded's have started here today. This one is definitely a named form, and I will know it when I hear it (if you know what I mean), but the name I have on it is incorrect (I don't think it is "Goddess" which is what I had it named as, as I think that is an apricot variety?). Early flowering, the colours are pretty accurate in the pictures I think. Any ideas as to the name of it?
Thanks in anticipation.
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The colouring is very interesting Paul but I do wish breeders would get over this obsession they have with frilly bits. The tailored forms are SOOOO much more attractive.
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To you! I like them both, and I do like the modern forms as well, although I know a lot of the purists don't like them at all. I also love the "space age" iris, which have some people rolling over in their proverbial graves. :o Just bringing my iris back to flowering health again now, so there won't be that many photos this year, but hopefully by next year I'll have a whole bunch of them flowering.
So no-one has any idea of the name of mine?
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Can't help you with a name for yours sorry, Paul.
Here are a couple of MBI:
"Aqua Taj"
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And Arilmed, "Orb"
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cheers
fermi
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Paul Could it be Autumn Tryst?
It is early-med and both fragrant and reblooming according to Schreiner in the US.
Here is the link.
http://www.schreinersgardens.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SIGO&Product_Code=AUTM&Category_Code=TBI
Good luck getting Your irises back to flowering
Joakim
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Joakim,
Thanks for the link. Mine has bronzing n the falls, unlike the Schreiner iris, plus I've never had one called "Autumn Tryst" before. Also, it takes a few years for the US ones to get here to Australia, so 1993 would be cutting it pretty fine for the time frame when I bought it. Thanks for looking for me though. 8)
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Paul I did not work more than to A so You have some more work to do ;D . Maybe looking in an Australian seller is better but I do not know any.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Here are a few more TBI's, only one of which has a name, "Witches' Sabbath" (at least I think this is what iwas told it was!)
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I think Lesley might appreciate this old-fashioned, unruffled mauve one,
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And this old "gold and maroon" bicolour,
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But probably not this brown on white with stitching!
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This little one came labelled Iris clusii, but as Lesley has suggested elsewhere, is likely to be a form of I reichenbachii.
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
The first one looks right, although probably a bit darker in real life than in the picture? The open standards fit it too..... always noticeable in mine as well. A good dark purple, almost blackish with gold beards. It is in flower here at the moment as well.
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These are a few DBI pics from a friend who would like some help identifying them.
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This one he had labelled as I lortetii, so he may not need a name for it
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
So he did want them posted. I asked if I could post them here for identification, but never heard back from him. Hopefully someone can help with names.
Here's a few TBs that I have flowering now as well......
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Iris 'Black Dragon', which is a lovely black.
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Iris 'C'mon Lleyton'
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A "space age" iris with extra petals below the beards.... Iris 'Mesmeriser'. Wonderfully pure white, and I love the extra petals. Sorry Lesley, I realise you'll likely hate it.
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And probably you'll hate this one even more. ::) :P Iris 'Six Pack', which has 3 styles and 6 falls. Very reminiscent of a japanese iris, but in a bearded iris. I love it, and have 3 different "flat" iris now.
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And lastly for now.... a pic of Iris 'Witches Sabbath' to match Fermi's. Great flower, even if not as good a show quality due to the open standards.
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Yes. Right.
I DO know the first of your lot Fermi. I have it myself but have entirely forgotten its name. No help there. The lortettii is super isn't it?
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This is a local TBI called "Friedl"
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Paul,
thanks for the confirmation about "Witches' Sabbath". I was given a small piece of "Six Pack" but it'll be a while before it flowers.
Anyone else got a suggestion for the unnamed DBI's?
cheers
fermi
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A lovely TBI growing in our rock garden (when we got the pot of rhizomes they were as small as DBI's!), "Silk Sari"
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cheers
fermi
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This Standard dwarf bearded is called 'Buddha Song.' Not my favourite colour and I've left photographing until the wind has all but destroyed it, so not the best. As well, it's in a very weedy patch.
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Some more TBs in flower at the moment..... Lesley might want to look away now......
'Goldfinger' and 'Wing Commander' are both space age irises as well, the former has horns below the beards and the latter has extra petals. 'Decadence' in very ruffled, and where it looks over the top for some varieties, the colour scheme seems to work well for it in this case.
Enjoy. 8)
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Howdy All,
Some more Irises in flower at the moment......
The first two were seen at an open garden we visited today (I shall be trading for some pieces! ;)), but I don't know the name of the yellow and white one, so if anyone knows it let me know. The second 'Tempting Fate' is far more striking in person, with velvety falls and the interesting white markings around the beards. Beautiful.
The other two are in flower in my garden at the moment.... 'Conjuration' is another space ager with white horns below the beards. I love the colours blend from the white through to the dark blue. The second is 'Ostentatious', which seems a fairly fitting name for it. Apricot with burgundy plicata markings is an unusual combination, but it stands out so very much.
Enjoy.
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Lovely Paul and so well grown. My 'Beardies' always suffer from the weather here.
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David,
Half of them are in pots, still trying to recover from years of neglect.... so they definitely aren't "well grown", believe me. ::) In a couple of years I hope they all will be. ;D
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I'm not supposed to be at work on a Saturday, but had something to finish off, so took the opportunity to log on to the Forum!
Here are a couple of TBI's I photographed at a friend's garden this morning.
"Unnamed" but beautiful and unfortunately the windy conditions hampered me from taking any more!
cheers
fermi
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Does bearded iris also catch virus?
I saw some plants in the zoo that had foliage that was a bit streakish but it might have been last years foliage and just taken a beating from the weather?
There was now flowers so I could not look. I understand that without photo one can not say but I am just curious if there is such a thing (virus) amongst bearded as well.
I can not remember to have heard about that before but then we learn all the time
Kind regards
Joakim
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Does bearded iris also catch virus?
Yes, I find all the types of iris I grow are very susceptible, bearded or not, it shows as the usual streaky leaves.
I find the worse are the dwarf bearded and the reticulatas. What I'm not sure, is are they all different viruses, or can a juno pass on a virus to a DB?
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Paul,
When I saw your yellow I first thougt of Baroque Prelude but that one is lighter in the standards.
You are right ;D I do not love Irises that are too much out of shape. Paeonies make much better paeonies. 8)
However, de gustibus etc. I think Pinnacle and Braithwaite are still among the most beautiful.
Göte.
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Thanks for the information Diane.
Virus in bearded is new to me since it is not seen (often or not at all) in Sweden (or for that matter in Hungary) but seems to exist in Portugal. :(
I will have a closer look at the plants later and compliment with a picture.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Gote,
"Braithwhaite" is a real beauty. Eye catching! 8)
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I agree with Diane, bearded iris of all kinds can get viruses, the minis especially and in particular, the modern hybrids seem very susceptible - more so than species. I had an order of dwarf beared irises arrive yesterday, 29 of them and the first thing I did was look for streaky foliage. Mercifully, they seem to be quite clear. Bearded irises are also very prone to attack from aphis/greenfly. It is VERY IMPORTANT to keep them free of this pest in order to keep viruses at bay. A regular spray with systemic insecticide does the job - though I hate chemical sprays.
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There is a thread about small bearded iris that also deals with virus here.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2927.0
It has lovely pictures so well worth watching.
I missed it before else I would not have asked.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Ohmigod! What have I done? Decided back in November/December that it would be nice to have a few new bearded irises, mostly small, or replacements for varieties I grew years ago, in other gardens.
Only three iris nurseries in NZ now specialize in miniature and standard dwarf forms so I looked through their catalogues and made lists. Sent off the lists and open cheques - didn't dare add up the totals - and last week two parcels arrived, yesterday, the third. fortunately I had the first two lots potted (inevitably, as I haven't enough places ready for them in the garden) and will do the third lot later in the week when the rain stops (I hope). I can plant out about one quarter right away, the rest will have to remain potted for one season. The total? 158!!! Never mind the dollar total but at around 5-8 dollars each..... :o Hence the Ohmigod!
Most are mini dwarfs and standards but I also ordered a few tall bearded, mostly blacks and orangey/gold shades and some miniature tall bearded (used to be called Table irises) which are quite tall but very slim-stemmed and with smaller flowers. They're very elegant, delicate even, and nicely proportioned, not so chunky as the taller, tall bearded.
Some have dreadful names such as 'Kissimee,' 'Jazzamatazz,' 'Striped Pants,' 'Smarty Pants,' 'Squiddler,' 'Yak Attack.' But I guess with literally many hundreds or even thousands of new beared irises of all sizes registered every year around the world, "creative" naming is inevitable.
Happily, I can't see a sign of a virus striped leaf among the lot of them. Most should flower this coming spring/early summer, so be prepared to be inundated.
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Some have dreadful names such as 'Kissimee,' 'Jazzamatazz,' 'Striped Pants,' 'Smarty Pants,' 'Squiddler,' 'Yak Attack.' But I guess with literally many hundreds or even thousands of new beared irises of all sizes registered every year around the world, "creative" naming is inevitable.
Hi Lesley,
friends who ran a small nursery which had a lot of DBI's always threatened to make a cross between Quark, Zinger and Herald(? or was it Angel?) so that it could be called "Quark the Herald Angel Zings"! ::)
cheers
fermi
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friends who ran a small nursery which had a lot of DBI's always threatened to make a cross between Quark, Zinger and Herald(? or was it Angel?) so that it could be called "Quark the Herald Angel Zings"! ::)
cheers
fermi
FAB!! I'd take three! ;D ;D
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One could write a small story using iris names as the text. I'm sure Anthony, Martin or someone could come up with something worth a giggle.
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On the subject of plant names: http://web.me.com/blackpittsgarden/Site_2/Blog/Entries/2009/2/24_Under_Her_Breath_The_Sheep_Muttered_Strange_Incantations.html (http://web.me.com/blackpittsgarden/Site_2/Blog/Entries/2009/2/24_Under_Her_Breath_The_Sheep_Muttered_Strange_Incantations.html)
:) :)
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Thanks Chloe, the blog is wonderful. ;D
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The DBI's are starting to flower here;
Cult 1 - name lost
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This is DBI cult 2, name lost - for those who worry at the carrlesness of lossing a name, the blackbirds chucked the labels around the garden, and sadly, until now, I had not got round to creating a photo ID kit!
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These are two great little plants and the second looks familiar, though not with that rumpled quality. But there are literally thousands of such cultivars as you know so it will be a great stroke of luck if someone can ID positively. Many such names are lost to me too Chris, not only in the garden but worse, in my head. ???
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This is DBI cult 2, name lost - for those who worry at the carelessness of losing a name, the blackbirds chucked the labels around the garden, and sadly, until now, I had not got round to creating a photo ID kit!
Hristo,
have a look back at reply 202 and 176; possibly "knick Knack".
cheers
fermi
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Hi Fermi,
You are a gent and a scholar, that's the one, I even remember the name now you say it!
One variety down, 50 or so to go! :'(
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Note to self - photograph the only flower of your new iris before the torrential rain blows bits of grit all over it! Hey ho......
Iris DB Extra
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Very nice though Chris, even if slightly gritty. :)
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Cheers Lesley, and it it isn't even from Yorkshire!
Flowering today a yellow DBI, again no idea what name it was bought under, but probably bought it to take part in some devious breeding programme or other! ( mad laugh, little finger in mouth etc ) :P :o
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These two have a really nice form to them. Modern dwarfs tend to have wide, flaring falls, the better to appreciate the colours and patterns on the falls, from above. I like these little jokers. They're quite plump. Fellow feeling probably.
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Hi Lesley, yes I like the form of the older cutivars I guess, not to say that I don't like some of the more modern 'complicated' colour combinations! They are classy and quietly appealing, even if a little plump! :D :D
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Hi Lesley, yes I like the form of the older cutivars I guess, not to say that I don't like some of the more modern 'complicated' colour combinations! They are classy and quietly appealing, even if a little plump! :D :D
Describes me to a tee Chris. :D
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I didn't realize we had a bearded iris thread, so I'll repost this new cultivar from Ransom, Benazir. It is an aril-bred, but is branched and carries typically 6 blooms. As you can see from the top view, there are six beards.
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This one's not to my taste and highlights, for me, the wrongness of using true oncos as parents of onco/tall beared hybrids. Sure, they're easier but all the exotic elegance and spectacle of the oncos is lost. Particularly, I think it is sad that some people want more oncos ONLY to use them as hybrid parents rather than for their own sake. Each to his own, however.
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Lesley if the aim is to do an "onco like" flower that is an easy garden plant I think that goal is good. On its way some odd ones may be produced.
Sometimes it is nice to have plants that one does not need to worry about every year and hope that they survived and that they will survive an other year.
But as You say everyone for their own taste.
Kind regards
Joakim
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It is interesting to see the hybrids that can be produced and whilst I appreciate and rather like the colour of the hybrid Jamie showed I can't say the form is pleasing, it seems a step too close to a double iris for my taste, but as Lesley and Joakim point out, it is simply a matter of taste, which is of course entirely subjective!
So, the following iris hails from Janis a few years back;
Iris babadagica
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This is another name lost DBI, looks similar to 'Knick Knack' but has a flowering period 2 weeks later than 'Knick Knack'.
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Actually, there is no Oncocyclus blood involved in Benazir. It is a cross of a pumila dwarf hybrid (Outrageous) with 'Eastern Blush', a cross between the Regelia 'Vera' and the tall bearded 'Faux Pas'. I am very fond of the effect in the garden, as the colouring is unlike any bearded I have seen and the flowers are as large as a bearded on a strong, small to mid-sized plant. Of course, as with all flowers a question of taste!
As to oncos and regelias in and of themselves, I would never be able to grow any in my climate, in the garden. I know fo only one person in Germany who grows them well, in large raised and covered beds, where the temperature gets very hot in the Summer. For the rest of us, the only was to get this wonderful effect of colour and form is to aim for gardenable hybrids. While I have quite a few oncos and regelias in pots, they are on a southern balcony where they can bake in the Summer. None have survived the garden.
I won't apologize for people creating hybrids using species, rather I commend the practice as these species that excite us so are impossible to maintain for the vast majority of gardeners. I would prefer to promote creating sustainable plants, rather than encourage people to try species that are not suitable to their conditions. You gotta scratch that itch! This will certainly reduce pressure on difficult species.
That said, the fine and fragile beauty of the wild plants will most likely never be equaled, and I do not see that it must be so. After all, most of us would prefer a plant that performs and looks wonderful for a few weeks, rather than one that eeks along and puts out a poor, shortlived blossom in the good year and eventually expires.
Nuf sed :P
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This is another name lost DBI, looks similar to 'Knick Knack' but has a flowering period 2 weeks later than 'Knick Knack'.
I will take a pic of what I have as 'Knick Knack'. It looks different from both of yours Chris. Here is a plant I bought as Iris pumila in a 4" pot.
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Flowering today, Iris 'Green Spot', odd colouring but I kind of like it!
Anthony, maybe we can tell which is the true Knick Knack based on their tendancy to hang around super villains?
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From that variable group of DBI's, 'Unknown' ;) :D
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Great fotos, everyone. Here are a few blooming despite the rain.
Benazir
PinkPele
Tantara
Westar
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Jamie. I love the 'Tantra', oil on water sat a top rusty iron, the colour combination is striking!
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Glad you like it too! Most people just see brown. In the garden it has a fascinating richness. Don't tell Lesley, but I'm crossing it with I. stolonifera. :-X :-* ;D
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Ahhh... but Lesley knows it all!!! and has seen your post Jamie. I'll reserve judgement until I see the results.
Chris, Your 'Green Spot' is not what is grown as 'Green Spot' here and has been for 40 years at least. It is almost white (a sort of oyster white I guess), with a grass green spot on the falls but no yellow at all. I like yours though.
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Hi Lesley,
I googled 'Green Spot', blimey how does anyone know what it should look like, so much variation ( one pic looks more like Iris 'Inscription' ). This is one of the names I can be certain of, as in, I bought it as 'Green Spot'. I nipped out to look at it and can say that the yellow colour in my pic is a false representation as the colour on the falls is green to the eye. So I guess I shall keep calling it 'Green Spot', will you post a picture of yours in the coming season?
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Speak of the devil, Iris 'Inscription' flowering today.
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I don't know 'Inscription.' It looks very nice.
If the yellow on your pic of 'Green Spot' is not REALLY yellow, then it probably is the same as I have/had. I have a number which have been badly neglected for some time and haven't bloomed for a couple of years and I'm hoping 'Green Spot' is among them as I always liked it a lot. So probably no pic at least for this coming spring.
I'm also wondering if my memory for colour is not so good and accurate as I thought it was or as it used to be. ???
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Lesley,
I am sure your memory is fine, I find on a bright day here certain colours get lightened, light green to yellow, yellow to whiteish and white to 'oops switch to manual focus on my camaera!' Last year the Irises were all jammed together in one bed, we split them up and replanted them after;
A) Dividing them between, two stock beds and the garden and sales pots.
B) Leaving the plants for the garden in a boiling shed for 2 months without water.
We were not expecting much in the way of flowers this year after so much disturbance and abuse but bless em, they are flowering very nicely!
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Two new DBI's flowering for us today, one of the first I bought, Iris 'Pogo' and the last Simon purchased at the Harrogate Spring Show in 2006, Iris 'Litlle Black Belt'.
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Here are a few new ones blooming this morning. It is a lovely day outside, perfect for working in the garden and then closing the evening with sundowners and a bar-b-que. :D :D ;)
The two plants from Harold Mathes, a hybridizer in Germany, are particularly interesting as they represent some first steps in builing a new genetic combination for aril-bred and shorter garden iris. I am using them to continue this work.
Butter Pecan SDB
(yellow aphylla x MTB) F2 from Harold Mathes
(yellow aphylla x MTB) F2 from Harold Mathes
(Vera x Radiant Apogee)X(Vera x Heather Hawk) Harold Mathes
Djinn SDB
Outrage SDB space-ager
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Super plants Jamie, though out of that stable I think '(Vera x Radiant Apogee)X(Vera x Heather Hawk) Harold Mathes' has the form and colouring that I find most attractive, fascinating stuff, keep it coming!
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Nice iris. I love the blue beards on the second last one (nice contrast) and very cool flounces on the last pic! 8)
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Flowering today, 'Jasper Gem', there are a few cultivars out there that look very similar, i.e... 'Gossip' and 'Golden Violet'.
This one increases well......
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This is the first flowering of a cultivar that is new for me, DBI 'Sapphire Jewels'.
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This is 'Knick Knack' photographed in an Iris nursery
http://www.marksgardenplants.com/sp-iris13.html (http://www.marksgardenplants.com/sp-iris13.html)
Dont always believe what the label says. I had to take one out of a trough. The label said 'under 20cm' but it was actually 47cm
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So I guess the one you removed from the trough was a median rather than a dwarf?
Certainly the 'Knick Knack' here is around the 10cm mark.
Do you grow many bearded iris Mark?
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Another first flowering for me this year, though sadly the beasties that nibble got to it before I did;
DBI 'Snugglebug'.
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Not really just a few good ones. Pogo, heavily scented Open Sky, Chanted, Cache of Gold, Blue Denim, Mighty Mouse, Serenity Prayer, Lemon ?, Knick Knack
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Here is a new one for me, I imported last year from the States, 'Alien Mist'. It carries a horn, it about 85cm tall and has very clear blue-lavender colouring. The SDBs are still blooming away, despite the rain, but the tall beardeds are starting in earnst. I expect lots of flowers by the weekend.
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I don't have 'Sapphire Jewels' but this year have bought one called 'Sapphire Gem.' I think the colour should be deeper than yours Chis. Will know come the spring. It would be easy to mix the two, with those ???names.
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Too true Lesley, I hold to the raft that is the knowledge that this came from Cayeux in France, it was planted here directly and so no chance of me mixing the names up in transit from the UK! The fun starts in a couple of years time when our own plants, the product of open pollination start flowering....... :o ;D
P.s..our neighbours bees, so we get new irses and honey too!
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Two new ones for me, they were bought from a UK nursery as un-named plants, the product of open pollination within the nursery. I guess they may look like one of their parents, though no idea of their parentage, they were as I recall a cheap bit of fun! ;) ;)
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These are bothe VERY pretty. The wash of yellow on the top one is most attractive. Cheap maybe but well worth more, I'd say.
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Here's my first 'Beardie' to flower this year. One of ten plants I bought a couple of years ago from Kelways as lost label dwarf bearded plants at 50p each. This one is about 90cm tall!!
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Not exactly dwarf but nice colours David !
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David it seems to have good bud count as it is called and big form. Does it have a nice scent as well?
Well grown
Joakim
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No scent that I can detect Joakim.
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David I think it depends if the flower is out on a warm sunny day then it smells more, but I am not sure.
Some that I did not detect any scent have a scent on warm sunny days.
Some smell very strongly others less and some not at all :(
For 50p it can not be perfect, only good :) :)
Joakim
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Lesley, I was pleased when they flowered and they were an incentive towards generating our own cultivars / hybrids.
David, nothing wrong with that Iris, you don't get much for 50p these days, that was 50p well invested!
Slighhtly more than 50p, DBI 'Well Suited' from Cayeaux Iris, first time flowering for me here in Bulgaria.
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Flowering today.
Iris 'Classic Look'
Iris ' Sweet Lena'
Median iris - name unknown
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Chris,
I think you unknown median is 'Fritillary Flight'
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I'm pleased to see 'Well Suited." It's one I've bought this summer. I'm a little surprised (but pleased) to see that it's from Cayeaux. I didn't realize NZ growers were importing from France as well as (mainly) the USA and Australia. We are more likely to get very dwarf forms from there than from the USA where the breeders are largely in warmer climates, California, etc.
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Thanks Jamie, looks like a good candidate.
Lesley, 'Well Suited' is a lttile dazzler, in the flesh it looks like it is made of a good quality velvet. Simon has been crossing it onto some Onco - Regilias and other beardies!
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Lesley,
The Aussie growers sell quite a few from Cayeux, so could have come from Australia anyway (if you know what I mean).
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That would explain it Paul, you're probably right.
Chris, I hope you lads in Bulgaria are keeing IMMACULATE records of all these crosses. ;D
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Lesley,
Have you ever seen someone crossing anything onto everything? It will be seed parent only I fear! ::) :'(
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Here are the latest bearded iris to flower, sadly all lost names except the Iris germanica 'albicans' which was bought from a presumed reliable source but does not look right in flower or growth form.
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Къде ще? Сам съм?
From Cayeux again, Median Iris 'Vamp'
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аз говория със дърва...........
Iris 'Red Zinger' from Cayeux
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Chris,
Love the colour in 'Vamp'. So strong.
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Hi Paul,
It's a fab colour, if you ever saw the metal foil wrapping off a bar of Cadburys chocolate, that's what it reminds me of, that or some of the colours you get from spilling petrol on water!
P.s... hope the flu clears up soon.....
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I used to have a median iris called 'Novella' that I think was a similar colour. Shame I lost it. Absolutely electric!
Feeling better today thankfully, so hopefully flu will go for good this time. ;D
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Hi Paul,
Glad you're feeling better, though I guess it's a good chance to go read up on all the forum threads!
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Actually, while I was sick I didn't read much on here at all, just a few "regular" ones. Couldn't concentrate well enough for anything more unfortunately. Caught up on a lot more the last couple of days, plus posted pics etc that I've taken over the last few weeks. Back to work tomorrow morning though. :o
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A seedling giving its premier blossom. I've had it in the garden in a bad spot for 5 years and, due to its very robust growth habit, I moved it to sun and this was the result. Very tall, not for the rockery in the usual sense, 4 branches and 9 buds , probably more when established. Very strong stem and the flowers are 18cm across. As I had the parents listed as Silicon Prairie x Autumn Circus, I am a bit surprised by the horns. The colouring may not be every gardeners taste, but I find them very fascinating. Of course, it is my child and I am prejudiced. ;D ;D ;D
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I'd be pleased as punch to have that in my garden. Love the colour, and the almost-spoons on it. Then again, I just love space-ager irises. ;D
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Jamie, love that, the blue is striking and the 'horns' rather cute!
Flowering today an old favourite of mine purchased from Seagate Irises, TBI 'Pirate's Quest'
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All these DBI's look absolutely stunning !
Thanks for sharing them !
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Here is 'Capricious Candles', an American hybrid I imported last year. Wonderful colour and elegant shape. Again, a TB and too tall for most rockeries. Another space-ager for you Paul. 8)
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Jamie, love that, the blue is striking and the 'horns' rather cute!
Flowering today an old favourite of mine purchased from Seagate Irises, TBI 'Pirate's Quest'
Chris,
That isn't 'Pirate's Quest', unless there was a far older thing under that name. Pirate's Quest from memory is a much moderner form (say maybe 15 to 20 years old I would guess) which is pure gold with a small white flash below the falls. I used to have it, which is why I know it. It is a much more flared flower, without the elongated teardrop fall of the older varieties like in your picture. I unfortunately don't have a name to give you for yours either. Sorry.
Jamie,
Very nice colouration to that one. Is it one from Sutton breeding stables? I do so wish we could bring them in easily here, as there are a few of the Sutton irises that I would love to have (Thor's Lightning Bolt' for example, deep purple black with white beards! :o)
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Paul,
Capricious Candles is from Leroy Meininger. I believe most of his intros are offered by Snowpeak Iris.
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Hi Paul,
You are quite right, not 'Pirate's Quest', not sure yet if this is my mix up or a mix up when purchased.
Looks like it might be 'Love the Sun', Blythe 1983.
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The colouring of your "baby" Jamie, is very pretty and with so many branches and buds, is bound to be a good garden plant with strong visual impact. Maybe a good seedling to use as a parent.
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In the words of that great horticulturalist, Eminem;
'Would the real 'Pirate's Quest' please stand up, please stand up.
'Would the real 'Pirate's Quest' please stand up, please stand up.
All you other yellow TBI's are just immitating,
So would the real 'Pirates Quest' please stand up!
Mmmmm, white man gardening rap, whatever next!
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;D ;D
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Two more TBs that opened fully, today.
Oasis Dragon
Jurassic Park
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Simply beautiful Iris from everybody :o 8)
3 TBI's in bloom now:
-Witch of Endor-
White -unknown-
Sky blue - own seedling, seed origin from compost :)
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Armin, I love the colour combination and form of your second image, great stuff!
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Chris,
the "white" one flower shape is "old fashioned".
I like it too.
I got it from an old gardener who unfortunately already died.
He did not know a name for it but told me it to be a rarer one...
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A good day for new flowers!
If anyone can confirm 'Sable Night' I'd be grateful, I am fairly sure it's an older form and 'Sable Night' harks back to 1956.
ibi 'bedtime story'.jpg
tbi 'sable night'.jpg
tbi 'betty simon'.jpg
tbi 'going my way'.jpg
tbi 'tumultueux'.jpg
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Chris,
That is what I remember 'Pirate's Quest' as looking like. Great colour in that last 'Tumultuex'. Love that combination.
But I just adore Jamie's 'Oasis Dragon'. Excellent!! 8)
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You seem to have an endless stock of these Chris ! :o
Not that I mind... they're all gorgeous gems ! ;)
Thanks for showing them !
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Cheers Paul and Luc,
Not as many as I'd like Luc, there are few beardies that I don't like, I thiink we have around 50 cultivars which is not many really, I think Lesley has many more and I shouldn't be surprised if Jamie is buried under them! ;)
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Chris,
I love your turn of phrase. I know you didn't mean it, but your last comment implies that Lesley has many irises, and that Jamie is buried underneath them. Gave me a good chuckle when I read it. I KNOW you didn't mean it that way, but it is quite humorous when read that way. Maybe the dead bodies underneath is why Lesley grows such nice Iris? ;D ;)
I have about 100 or so cultivars here, although I used to grow around 400 or so and rent a back yard to grow them in. I had to downsize at one point. ::) Lost a number that I didn't want to lose, but still have some lovelies. I discovered at that point that the larger iris store dry much better than the miniatures.... which I lost almost all of. :o
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'Sable Night' I'm pretty sure, is BLACK,BLACK,BLACK. Very black and has a wide,flaring form. I don't have it now but my memory can't be THAT bad, can it? It was raised by Cook in the USA, and released 1950 according to the Google link that I found. There are 7 pics available in the link and I'll swear every one is of a different iris. ???
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I've never grown a great many talls because I've always lived in very windy gardens and our beastly, gale force nor'west winds (off Australia, YOUR fault), always come just when the talls are starting to bloom. I'm gradually replacing some and getting a few new ones. Buying 3 tall blacks for my black garden (still a thought in my head, but hopefully next spring/summer). But I have a lot of standards and minis and am adding every summer. I love them. The "table" or miniature tall beared are super too, elegant and graceful, less chunky than the big talls.
Paul I plant to be buried under one of my larger troughs.
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I have about 100 or so cultivars here, although I used to grow around 400 or so and rent a back yard to grow them in. I had to downsize at one point. ::)
Some people never cease to amaze me... ;D ;D
I bet Fermi grows an awful few too... :D
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Paul ;D ;D ;D
I have a way with words, sometimes.....
I do have a knack for putting my foot in my mouth too!
Lesley, under a trough? Why not plant up the sarcophagus of an ancient Egyptian Queen, much more fitting?
Paul - by which I am implying a link to royalty not things that are ancient!
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I have about 100 or so cultivars here, although I used to grow around 400 or so and rent a back yard to grow them in. I had to downsize at one point. ::)
Some people never cease to amaze me... ;D ;D
I bet Fermi grows an awful few too... :D
Luc,
like Lesley I mainly grow the smaller ones but unlike her I don't intend to bury any basketballers in our garden ;D ;D ;DBuying 3 tall blacks for my black garden (still a thought in my head, but hopefully next spring/summer). But I have a lot of standards and minis and am adding every summer.
cheers
fermi
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The rumours of my early demise under a pile of Iris in New Zealand are simply untrue. ;) ;) ;D Thus, here are two more that bloomed this morning. Now, I'm off to work. Hate it!
Crow's Feet (USA?)
Sandro (Cayeaux)
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Jamie,
Iris 'Crow's Feet' was apparently by Black, 2006 (just to fill in your ?)
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Here is the second of my small collection of 50p lost label dwarf?? beardies. Again about 90cm high
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That's another nice one David. Well worth the 50p. :D
Took me a moment to work that one out Fermi, not being a fan particularly and in any case, none of my troughs is longer than a metre. I'd need them to be 2 at least.
As for sarcophagi, I was very taken with the Roman ones in various ruined castles and assorted excavations, in Britain and would have loved to bring home a collection. They even have a good drainage hole, presumably for the putrifying body to drain away. Good depth, natural stone, what more could one want?
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Some dwarf ones i my garden. Picture taken 17 of may.
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Anne all of them would be very welcome in my garden. They are lovely strong colours and you seem to be growing them extra well
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Iris mesopotamica is in flower now in its natural habitat on Mt. Hermon.
There are many populations of this species mainly around old villages and Muslim cemeteries but these where introduced in the past.
The perfume is out of this world!!!
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Oron,
Is that one in commerce? I used to have one very similar to that when growing up, and the thing about it that always struck me was the wonderful perfume. has to be one of the nicest floral scents I have ever come across. Unfortunately I never brought any of it from our old farm, but I am wondering whether it could have been the same as your I. mesopotamica? I've never found another Iris with anywhere near the same perfume, either in strength or character.
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Anne all of them would be very welcome in my garden. They are lovely strong colours and you seem to be growing them extra well
They are growing in sand. We have much rain here on the west coast of Norway, and it seams that sand is the best way to grow them.
Is it possible to send to Australia from Norway?
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Super pics Anne and Oron,
One offering today, Feu du Ciel, orange with the scent of chocolate, are Terries!
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I do like the colouring of 'Sea Monster.' Iris, particularly bearded irises, presents colours that no other flower has. Yours are all lovely Anne.
Love that orange colour too Chris; not so sure about the frilly form though. :)
Paul, I. mesopotamica is in NZ and has been for many, many years, so likely in Australia as well. I doubt if it would be offered commercially though nowadays, in this part of the world.
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Lesley,
That fits with the fact that it came from a garden somewhere, not commercially. Thanks for the info. 8)
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Paul, I mesopotamica is rarely offered in commerce here, usually because it resent even the little water during summer and so it is difficult for the growers to keep them.
It is one of the plants that people just pull out and give to friends that would like to grow it as we do with I. germanica and I. albicans.
These there species are very common here particularly in old gardens where they are kept completely dry all summer.
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Some that are flowering here now:
1) Andalou
2) Exotic Isle
3) Patina
4) Roman Rythm
5-8) unknown cultivars
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Oron,
The one I had definitely wasn't mesopotamica then, as it didn't have a problem with normal watering just like the other beardeds. I have to wonder whether mine was a hybrid though, as it looks and sounds so very similar. ???
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Wim, the 'Patina' is a super colour combination, very different.
New today TBI 'Trencavel'
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'Patina' is my very favourite TB iris. Quite apart from the fact that it has excellent branching and bud count and lovely form, the colour is of a piece of old copper, carefully polished over many years to a fine, antique finish.
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Anne, it is too hard to send to Australia unless the person in Australia is a commercial nursery and is willing to pay the high costs of quarantine.
Oron, Iris mesopotamic has the look of a hybrid in its form and some of the old cultivars could possibly be mistaken for it. The perfume in some of the older irises can be delightful but others too strong - headache forming even!
This very long drought in Australia was extra hard. Of the many irises in the garden the groups that have done well - mostly without ANY water are in order of wellness: arils/aril species hybrids and many of the smaller dwarf species and other species don't require much water. I have been surprised - once again - how well the arils do here.
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Name lost, so if anyone recognises this poor Iris please shout out!
Cheers
Chris
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Chris I can not comment on the name on Your latest unknown but I have an unknown in the same colour range.
It is probobly two of the same and it lose colour when aging.
the third is a nice one with spicy scent. It might be the windsor witch that was shown earlier but I am not sure.
Please let me know if You have any ideas.
I also have one that I presume is pallida variata aurerum or something similar.
I first in Portugal noticed that it has a nice scent.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Another one flowering here today:
Wild Yasmine
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Cheers Joakim, maybe it's something about that colour range! Either way some super looking TBI's!
New last thing today;
TBI 'Supreme Sultan'
TBI 'Unknown' - Shame because I think this one is rather classy! ;)
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"Wild Yasmine" and "Supreme Sultan" have a very warm contrast. Like it.
Congratulations Wim and Chris!
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I think your Unknown 2 is classy as well Chris, a lovely iris. I don't know the names of your first unknown or of yours Joakim but I would suggest from the haft veining that they are very old varieties as modern breeders would discard plants where the haft marks intrude so far onto the blade of the falls. They like clean, solid colour nowadays.
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Lesley thanks for the input on the unknown
I have no idea where I got it from but I have the feeling it was from Portugal so it might be older than the modern ones.
I looked closer to the one I thought was something with windsor and realized that it was thinking of witches of Endor that was not at all the same. :-[
Chris Your Supreme sultan looks like a much closer contender does it have a spicy scent?
Mine had and also a good bud count of 8 big flowers.
The buds of mine looked "black in the beginning and then lighter and then more to the yellow side. Do You by any chance have pics of the bud stage? Maybe it does not help at all but maybe?
Here s a series where I have taken at different light conditions but showing the different stages.
Could it be the same?
Kind regards
Joakim
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Chris,
I rather like you unknown plicata, as well. Has a sort of onco look to it. Reminds me of 'Omar's Stichery'.
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Hi Jamie,
I see what you mean, I guess our unknown could be arilbred?
We have a very late Iris 'Vera Olivia' about to flower and I guess we know who's going to the dance together! ;)
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Well worth a try Chris. The high, cupped standards are reminiscent of an onco, along with their size, relative to the falls.
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Hi Lesley,
I have all sorts of nice looknig flowers in my head, seed first, then happy imagining for a couple of years! :D
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Paul, I mesopotamica is rarely offered in commerce here, usually because it resent even the little water during summer and so it is difficult for the growers to keep them.
It is one of the plants that people just pull out and give to friends that would like to grow it as we do with I. germanica and I. albicans.
These there species are very common here particularly in old gardens where they are kept completely dry all summer.
here is one which is very similar from SE Turkey. It was growing in a permanently wet area that a farmer was draining and which is now a wheat field. I asked him for a piece which I think he found quite odd.This picture is in my garden.
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Some more that are flowering here; the first is 'Burnt Toffee', the second I don't know:
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Gorgeous Iris everyone.
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I have also one that lock like I mesopotamica, but I believe it is an old Iris germanica. I am not sure where I got i from.
It smells a little bit.
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While 'Burnt Toffee' looks beautiful, it should smell appalling! ;D
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The Historic Iris Preservation Group (HIPS) is part of the American Iris Society. They have a great publication and website for photos of the older TBs etc. www.hips-roots.com - I tried looking them up last night on google with just their name and got all manner of websites. This address given is from their last journal.
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That's a great link Pat, with so many that I've had in the past. Some are still available (just bought 'Honorabile' and 'Cayenne Capers' this year). I wasn't expecting that for 'Honorabile' so I guess I'll get a few surprises. Many pictured are as good as or better than anything being introduced today, in form at least, but that's a matter of taste of course.
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While 'Burnt Toffee' looks beautiful, it should smell appalling! ;D
Lesley,
maybe they should start making Irisses that smell like their name: Dark Chocolate, Brownie boy, Raspberry blush, Strawberry Swirl, Blueberry Bliss, Vanilla fudge,...
Wim
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By us bloom the TB irises for 10 days but I have taken already nearly 1000 photos. Now I feel fabulous. Every day I go first of all in the garden to see what is new. But this fable last only some weeks...
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Ewelina,
realy beautiful :o 8)
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Thank You, Armin
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Ewelina,
that is simply stunning :o :o
Do you have a sandy soil? Also, I see that the rhizomes are completely covered, is this better for their growth?
Wim
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Wim,
We have one plot of sand and the second of clay. On this with clay we have prepared some beds with mix of sand and on these with mixture irises grow very well. Worse is on pure clay. In any case, if we prepared new bed, we give compost. This is only fertilizer, that we apply in irises.
The top of rhizomes is not covered. Unless I plant the irises very late (Spetember, October), I plant them some deeper.
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These photos are from last year
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Ewelina,
very nice - it is a pity you probably got a decease problem :'( (read your other thread but don't find a solution)
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The best solution is to plant the irises on fresh soil but I haven't place on old plots. If I plant them far from house I don't see them, besides they are the next problems (for example with mouses).
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Ewelina what a great treat for us.
Do all bloom at the same time?
In Portugal I have flowering from January to May but it on MBI and the TBI in the end. I have not seen any rebloomers yet.
How is it with You do the rebloomers re bloom?
Great pleasure
Joakim
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Lesley,
maybe they should start making Irisses that smell like their name: Dark Chocolate, Brownie boy, Raspberry blush, Strawberry Swirl, Blueberry Bliss, Vanilla fudge,...
Wim
That would be a nice group to sit among while we have our coffee. :)
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What magnificent beds Ewelina, you must love bearded irises very much to grow so many. In image iris_garden_06 are you able to say what is the lovely red in front and the pretty pink and lavender towards the back? These two stand out for me.
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Joakim,
In Poland the TBs bloom from mid May to mid June, SDBs from mid April and in the middle IBs. But we have the varietes that begin some earlier and end earlier for example Suky (it is reblommer). If one variety will rebloom it make it in September, October but then the flower are smaller and lose its beauty.
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what is the lovely red in front and the pretty pink and lavender towards the back? These two stand out for me.
Do you think about
1. Code Red
2. Bon Appetite?
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Thanks for the information. Here in Portugal they have white and purple blacks that are very early from december into february in starting depending on the "Winter" and blooming into March with the odd ones blooming later. I thought of them as TBI until I saw the real deal. :) They are early in Sweden as well but not so early so it is a nice complement to prolong the season. I hope the warmer climate in Portugal will make the rebloomers do good reblooming and not just the odd ones.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Thank you Ewelina, I'll try to find those two. :)
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You can be proud of your Iris' Ewelina - they look gorgeous !! :o
I visited Wisley Gardens last week and saw a trial bed that I found enormous, full of bearded Iris..... You seem to grow even more of them..
;D ;D ;D
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Two more of my 50p lost label 'Beardies' that were supposed to be dwarfs but aint.
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two more irisses of which I don't know the cultivar-name:
Edit: I just remembered: the second one is: Victoria Falls
Edit 2: The first one is 'Mary frances' Named thanks to Ewelina.
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Flowering in Norway since last week: 'Tattler' (the yellow one), 'Yoyo' (the light purple in the middle) and one unknown - possibly 'Vamp'?
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Yesterday after work I was on my plot. It was a lot of surprises. Some irises have flowered for the first time
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two more irisses of which I don't know the cultivar-name:
The first of your irises is (with large probability) Mary Frances.
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two more irisses of which I don't know the cultivar-name:
The first of your irises is (with large probability) Mary Frances.
Thanks Ewelina,
I think mine has more brown in it's throat than 'Mary Frances'. Or is this normal for this cultivar?
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I think mine has more brown in it's throat than 'Mary Frances'. Or is this normal for this cultivar?
Mine looks so, compare
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I think mine has more brown in it's throat than 'Mary Frances'. Or is this normal for this cultivar?
Mine looks so, compare
Yes,
that's the same, thanks.
Wim
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Some of my varietes, for example beautiful Corona Gold don't produce the children. I have it from 2003 and I have this year again 1 rhizome, that flower this year. If I lose my only rhizome I'm unhappy. I cann't find none of grower that has this variety in his offer.
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Some more from Norway.
1 and 2 Serenity Prayer
Change of Pace
Dusky Challenger
Loreley (maybe)
And an old one. Not so big.
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Wine master
Supreme Sultan
Going my way
And a unknown
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Those Supreme Sultans are fabulous, I have a branch of them (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/risz-1.jpg)
I am lucky enough to have a collector close to my town, he have 900 different irises. If you are interesting, I put up a slide from his garden
This is my new "acquisition" (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/IMG_1599.jpg) and this (http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/IMG_1592.jpg)
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You will find many Iris lovers here, Erika....... this is one of the most popular areas of the forum.
It is amazing to think of a collection of 900 irises..... how beautiful !
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Thanks Maggi! I love them all and have some nice! I visited this collector several times and have got
a whole sack of rhizome
many of them will be surprize, because it was after the blooming season
http://www.slide.com/r/AHpEVNmilT9fPQLx0XMphRxJSWvMFSki?previous_view=mscd_embedded_url&view=original (http://www.slide.com/r/AHpEVNmilT9fPQLx0XMphRxJSWvMFSki?previous_view=mscd_embedded_url&view=original)
http://www.slide.com/r/lk4YWcpA5T-0srWioW8a3yAfpDM6PY3z?previous_view=mscd_embedded_url&view=original (http://www.slide.com/r/lk4YWcpA5T-0srWioW8a3yAfpDM6PY3z?previous_view=mscd_embedded_url&view=original)
my big foult, I forget all the names!
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Very nice Iris garden so thanks for the pictures.
Is it close to Budapest?
Is some of the sorts re-blooming? I have not seen re-blooming sorts in Hungary so are not sure if they have the chance to re-bloom or the heat make them go dormant before.
All the best and thanks for the lovely pictures
Kind regards
Joakim
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No, I never saw re blooming here, the summer is very hot usually and we have rain today after 75 days! so I think it is not inspired them.
This garden is 150 km Southwest from Budapest and only 6 km from me
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my iris.
http://mimiana.sunphoto.ro/01_irisi_2009
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2 companies know where i can buy irisi.i wonder if you know others?
http://www.iris-cayeux.com/index.php?langue=EN&devise=eur&lg=FR
http://www.iris-en-provence.com/
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You will find many Iris lovers here, Erika....... this is one of the most popular areas of the forum.
It is amazing to think of a collection of 900 irises..... how beautiful !
Maggi,
I used to have between 400 and 500 different bearded iris. I even used to rent a back yard to grow them in because I couldn't fit them at my place. When the Iris Virus strikes a person it can be a very strong affliction. ::)
Viovaslui,
There are a few decent sized iris nurseries in Australia as well, although I doubt they would be of interest to you. Most of them breed and release their own irises as well, including one of them that specialises in the Louisianna irises. I can provide website links if anyone is interested?
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Erika thanks for the information about the garden.
We have relatives in Hungary and often visit Hungary first we went to Balaton but now it is Zalaegerszeg that is the goal.
Is this garden between Zala and Budapest? Zala is a bit south west I think but mostly west.
I have seen a iris website in Hungarian with very nice prices but have not dared to buy from them.
I would have expected that the warm summers would be good for the bearded irises but I have not seen irises in bloom in August when we were there at that time so I wonder what they need to re-bloom (apart from being re-bloomers).
Anyone knows?
I have not seen them re-bloom in Portugal either but here are not s many iris cultivars that are supposed to re-bloom. I see much more iris types in Hungary than in Portugal but here they have a lot of The blue dark iris and the white and the blue have a very free blooming from November into June but mostly sometime in the middle.
I have transported some iris from Hungary to Portugal some of them via Sweden. A "typical Hungarian to me is the I. palida variata with the cream and green foliage. Not at all common in Sweden or Portugal but thriving there. At least this is common in Zala and Around Balaton. Great to have more Hungarians here.
All the best
Joakim
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Ó, so you visit Hungary?? let me know next time!! This garden is in Tolna county, neat Szekszįrd /the town I live/
You can buy irises only a trustworthy place - this one is very good for it - only 200-250 /less then an Euro/ forints one bush size like this:
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/IMG_1593.jpg) best time to visit is middle of May
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I have bought at the market by old people in the autumn when they split the plants they are always very good value. Mostly the odertypes but I also bougt some at a nusery at Keshely (spelling is probably wrong) at the west side of Balaton. Here I got some newer types as well.
I looked at a website
http://www.iriszkert.hu/ but it seems not to work. I was very tempted to buy there but never did. We now visit Hungary at the grape harvesting every year.
My parents go twice a year.
All the best
Joakim
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Some of the DBI in the garden:
"Knick Knack"
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"Raspberry Jam"
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"Making Eyes" looks enormous next to these miniaturized Tulipa "Negrita"!
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This is a species iris from Turkey grown from AGS Seedex 2007 seed
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Iris suavolens
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cheers
fermi
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I just cannot wait for the spring, will inundate you with pictures ;D ;)
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Fermi your Knick Knack is quite different from the one grown over here. This might have been discussed before
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This is a typical one grown over here
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(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/arykana/IMG_1298.jpg)
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My little ones are just starting with 3 out yesterday. Will get pics shortly but already I'm pretty sure one of the new ones is wrongly named. >:(
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Fermi your Knick Knack is quite different from the one grown over here. This might have been discussed before
It's not that different - ours is probably jut a bit sunburned ;D Misnaming of our cultivars is rife.
A few more,
"Lasanga"
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"Lime Ruffles"
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"Kiwi Slices"
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And this one which came as something like "Coffee-Mocha" but is possibly GBM, but don't quote me on it!
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cheers
fermi
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I am enjoying these Iris pix and I'll just add a wee reminder to new readers that they can left click on the thumbnail pictures to enlarge them :)
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I'm glad you are enjoying these, Maggi, as I have a few more!
This came labelled simply "Maroon"
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This one is "Fairy Footsteps"
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This purple one may be the same as "Raspberry Jam"
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This rather bedraggled one is "Zounds" (unless I'm reading the wrong label, in which case it's "Wizard of Id")
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Another one that doesn't quite match the label which says "Nimble Toes"
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cheers
fermi
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All little beauties Fermi, whatever they are called.
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Fermi does the sun bleach flowers? Kiwi Slice is lovely
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lucky Fermy! nice collection :-*
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Mark,
I think maybe ours isn't "Knick Knack" but it's close, maybe we can call it "Knick Knack Knock Off" ;D
Erika,
thank you - we don't have a lot of the Tall bearded iris but grow as many of the DBIs as we can afford!
This one is "Facepaint"
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I think Lesley said she thought this one might be "Forest Glade"
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And she had a name for this one but I've forgotten it already!
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cheers
fermi
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I still think it is Fermi. It's an NZ raised plant so maybe not so well-known overseas.
I have several new ones out over a couple of days but the b..... weather is so foul that I can't take their pics. 'Scribe' and 'Sky Drops' are particularly nice, but the fact is, the damned sky IS dropping, in bucket loads so I'm cleaning out my "office" instead of gardening.
Like your 'Face Paint' Fermi.
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Did I have a name for the last one? I wonder why as it's not familiar to me at all. ???
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Did I have a name for the last one? I wonder why as it's not familiar to me at all. ???
Sorry to confuse you, Lesley, it was another lilac grey with a maroon blotch that you identified! :-[
Here are more unlabelled ones! This one is named for the donor "Helene's Bronze"
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These two came from the one pot so we can't decided what to call either !
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cheers
fermi
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Great looking DB Iris. Kiwi Slice is available over here
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The bronze is very nice Fermi, a relatively unusual colour in bearded irises, or at least that shade of bronze is unusual.
You had me worried there as I seem to forget a lot of smallish things recently. Apparently it's a side effect of general anaesthetic. My doc assures me it's NOT the big A. Not yet anyway. Whew, that's a relief.
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Three from the SH page,
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'Sky Drops' on which the sky has dropped. This one is just 6cms high.
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'Scribe' which I think would make a nice companion with your 'Face Paint' Fermi.
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Nice little beauties.
I actually have a bud coming in Portugal but I do not think it is a re-bloomer bat rather a bit messed up by moving and changes in weather. The iris are going dormant here now and losing foliage.
Do people get re-blooming and if so how do they do. Is it enough to have a Mediterranean type of climate or do they need extra water or extra food or what? I believe it is not easy to get re-blooming in Northen Europe but some of the sellers/breeders are French and they report of re-blooming.
All the best
Joakim
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Super Beardies all, great to see em again!
Joakim, had one attack of re-flowering in early August from TBI 'Tumulteux',
only oine that re-bloomed, no obvious reason!
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Joakim, I may be wrong here bu my understanding is that reblooming is not something that the gardener can arrange or encourage. It is somehow in the breeding of the particular variety and so some vars re-bloom and others (the vast majority) don't. The term applied is "remontant" so if an iris is listed as remontant, you can expect it to rebloom very late summer or autumn. It mostly applies to tall bearded though I daresay breeders of smaller kinds are heading in that direction nowadays. The only dwarf bearded I know that reblooms is a very old purple form called 'The Gem,' bred by the late Mrs Jean Stevens in New Zealand, many years ago.
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Lesley I should have said that I meant the re-blooming or remontant mostly for the big TBI. I know that the plant need to have "it" but that, that is just the first step, the second to have conditions to make it re-bloom. Those conditions is what I am not so sure about.
I will have my eyes open to try to get "Gem" if it is available here.
All the best
Joakim
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In my experience of remontant varieties, they need the same conditions as they have during their "normal" flowering. If they have good light and drainage and perhaps some lime, they'll bloom well on both times. what I'm trying to say is that whatever the right conditions are in your garden for the first blooming, the same will be right for the second.
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Thanks Lesley
The first (and so far only) blooming is in May-June and by then there have been some rain but after that it can be dry almost into September so I wonder if they should have an extra feeding after first flowering and also some water some times? The iris I have might not be re-bloomers (remontant to me is so connected with roses that I use the other word that I think I have seen at an iris site, it might be an invented word, but I like it) but I am not sure I have got the optimum flowering from my plants. They grow OK but have taken quite a wile to adapt to their new place. They do get a lot of sun and it is well drained, maybe to well drained? In Sweden it was never any problem with iris needing water as it was provided from above so one only needed to have good drainage. In Portugal I have the feeling that they need additional water in the summer.
So do You or Paul water the irises in the summer or do they get almost dry conditions. I am thinking on the taller irises rather than the dwarf. I have the feeling that the weather is similar with temps of 30C with high 35C as top going to 40C only at some summers.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Lesley, Joakim, do you find your second blooming is as strong as the first?
From my memory the second blooming here was on a shorter stem with only two flowers.
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Chris I have never had a second blooming of the irises but was also surprised that the second was as good as the first.
I hope we here the trick.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Interesting Joakim, I know some of my more recent beardies from Cayeux are supposed to be remontant so I guess I shall see how they perform in the coming year when they flower for the first time!
Regards
Chris
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Joakim,
Mine get watering year around, the difference being that there is so much more evaporation during summer so they are much drier then. They flower well, so having summer watering does not seem to be a problem. I should definitely feed mine more, which would improve things too I am sure. ::)
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Chris I only have a couple of remontant vars so probably am not too well versed in what they should do but I think that with ample water through the summer and perhaps a liquid feed, they should flower as well as the first time round. I remember seeing a pink var last year in someone's garden, flowering in April,(Oct, to you) and it had strong stems with 4 or 5 flowers on each.
Having said that, to answer Joakim, in general I wouldn't water any beared iris from any group after it had flowered but let the rhizomes dry off. If I divide, it is soon after flowering and then reset them in the ground but without water until the new roots have started. Of course they may well get some rain which I wouldn't protect them from. Many iris growers would say that if your climate is damp and cool you should set the rhizomes higher, or even on top of the ground, lower and buried if the climate is hotter/drier. I'd be inclined to go for some lime rather than other fertilizers and probably never a high nitrogen fertilizer.
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I am pretty sure there is a remontant section within the American Iris Society if you want to search further.
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Here is the link http://www.rebloomingiris.com/
John
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Thanks John for the link.
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Hi Lesley,
I'll have to look out for "Scribe", it's very nice.
This is the one you named last year as "Cherry Lavender"
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This is "Jazzamatazz"
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"Chargold"
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"Dawn Princess"
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"Mini-dragon"
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Mark,
I wonder if this "unnamed" is "Knick Knack"?
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
great collection of DBI's. 8)
It looks all seem to feel quite comfortable in your garden ;D
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All good Fermi, but "Jazzamatazz" is quite special and not only for the name... ;D
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Nice pics! I grow Jazzmatazz myself, but it rarely looks as nice as I would like. I think it prefers drier conditions as to where I have it planted. Great looker, though. Haven't been able to set a pod with it :-\.
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All good Fermi, but "Jazzamatazz" is quite special and not only for the name... ;D
I agree with Luc.....would love to grow it - our dog is called Jazzy so it would be cool 8)
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I really have to get some dwarf beardies.
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The 'Cherry Lavender' is right I think Fermi, but a bit washed out in that pic. Mine should be out in a few days. I see from the website above that quite a few of the new ones I bought last summer are listed as reblooming. Time will tell.
Here is 'Jelly Bean' and though I prefer red or white jelly beans to black, this little one is a honey and small enough for a sunny trough.
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Two more out today in spite of yet further rain. It's pleasant out though between showers, not cold.
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'Dark Note' is a standard dward bearded and is even deeper and more velvety than this suggests, a really lovely variety.
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This one is 'Mist o' Pink,' a miniature dwarf and very pretty. I ordered this a couple of times years ago but was never sent the right plant. Good to have it now. This new plant has 8 flowering stems so it seems very prolific.
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Both are lovely Lesley, it's so hard to choose as all of them have such character and presence whatever colour they are wearing, rain or shine :D
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Thanks for the input on the reblooming iris. It was very nice to here from so many.
I have been away so that explains my late reply.
Kind regards and thanks
Joakim
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More DBI's: Cupid's Cup, a bit extra on this bloom!
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"Cherry Lavender" again
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"Rebel", which might be a MBI!
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cheers
fermi
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'Cherry Lavender' is very nice, Fermi. And of course 'Rebel', but I love the purples and blacks. 8)
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I'm wondering if I've mis-led you Fermi about 'Cherry Lavender.' It is truly lavender with the cherry spot. Or is it just your pic that's washed out? Sorry. Mine's not out yet but will post a pic when it is.
These have been on the SH page but may as well post them here too.
Grape Cordial
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Eyelash
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This came as Orange Glint but surely can't be right.
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Munchkin
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Forest Glade
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Some more
Bee Wings
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Orange Surprise
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Michiana
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Blue Moss
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Ruby Contrast
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Very nice collection Lesley,
my favourites are "Forest Glade" and "Ruby Contrast", superb! 8)
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Lovely photos of your iris, Lesley, Ruby Contrast has the most wonderful lavender blue beard 8)
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Nice to see these as I just bought some iris (rhizomes type) in a bulb stand and he said they will be big but they look more like medium sized and they tend to be easy growers that multiply well. I will see if I got 5 different colours as I bought or only 1. Hopefully next year will tell. No re-bloomers not even named just colours ::)
Love the many dwarfs from the south, might invest in a few when chances are given.
All the best
Joakim
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Here is another of 'Ruby Contrast' which perhaps shows the shape of the flower better. As you see, it's raining here today. The second is 'Forte' a lovely smooth and tailored red.
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And three more are
Tingle
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Little Pearl
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Watercolour
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It has become obvious that I'll need to spray them with a systemic fungicide. They are getting the typical spotting on the leaves that all bearded irises seem to get. It is unsightly and unhealthy. The continuous rain isn't helping.
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so, Leslie you still have those beautifully irises
I have found some, only for nostalgia
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Erika, yours are lovely. It's nice to go back to a previous season and enjoy the plants over again. Last summer I bought a lot of new bearded varieties, many replacements for some I'd lost, through moving house or being overgrown usually. Now they are beginning to bloom so it's quite exciting. I've not had so many for a very long time. The tall forms are not started yet but for now, there are lots of little ones to enjoy. If only the weather would warm up and be sunny for a few days.
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I have various number of small one too - according to the soil /hardy lyme and clay/and weather /dry!and hot/ conditions - I have got them at this summer, so have to wait to see them
Just started to collect daylilies too
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Howdy All,
Anyone tell me the name of this Dwarf Bearded? I'll know it when I hear it. Cherry Child springs to mind, but I think that it was more reddish than this one? This is the most beautiful dark purple with darker eye.
Thanks for any info.
Please click on the pics for a larger version.
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Sorry, Paul, can't help with the ID on that one but I don't think it's "Cherry Child" which is redder as you said.
Our little Aril-med, "Orb" is in flower again,
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As is the TBI "Silk Sari" (how could I not get this one!)
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cheers
fermi
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Paul, might be Cherry Garden.
John
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John,
Not one I have ever bought. This SHOULD be named, and I should recognise the name. I've never heard or seen Cherry Garden as far as I know. That said, thanks for providing a name. There's no way any of YOU are going to know which ones I have bought over time. ;D It just helps narrow it down. 8)
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Cherry Garden is a rich crimson, no purple in the colour at all. Very sumptuous.
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And still they come and more and more.....
Carats
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Footlights
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Sparky
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Cinnamon Apples
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Busy Bee
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Lemon Puff
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Desert Orange
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This last has lovely colour but the foliage is very poor with bad fungal spotting, almost lesions. The flower texture too is not good, thin and vulnerable to weather. Someone should be using the colour and breeding for a stronger, healthier plant.
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Lesley lovely pictures, cant get to many images. Love Cinnamon Apples 8)
Angie :)
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You really do have a good collection Lesley.
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Well if that's the case Angie, here are a few more. I've been putting them on the southern hemisphere page too but I think they're getting bored with them. There are actually dozens more to come over the next couple of weeks.
Curio
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and Not Again. I like the thick fuzzy beard on this one and the veined falls.
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Windrose. The first in this colouring.
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I used to have hundreds David, in all sizes but gradually lost most through moving, or their getting overgrown or whatever so last summer I bought a lot of new ones, some replacing those I'd had and others quite new to me. It's fun watching a few more open each day.
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Lesley,
I loved Windrose when I grew it. Such an unusual smokey colouration. I rather like the beards on Not Again as well... so big and bushy. very nice. 8)
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Lesley
You could never get fed up seeing these dwarf bearded Irises 8).
I bought a couple from Wisley when I was down there this year, thought when I got back home should have bought more, wish I had now, but looking back on this forum I see that they can be addictive ( noticed Paul T had passed the stage of few plants only ) only jealous, better watch out that l might get addicted to them after seeing the amazing colour's.
Ask the experts please, is there a need to cut back the leaves I noticed people do this to the taller ones.
Angie :)
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Most growers will cut back the leaves of talls, to about 10cms after the plants have flowered. Especially this is so if the plants are being lifted for division or sale. Usually thay are cut twice, to make a pointed tip. As well as being tidier for the end of season, it leaves the rhizomes exposed to the sun so that they can ripen and build up for next season. All trimmings should be burnt if possible as inevitably they have spores of the spotty fungus to which beared irises are very prone.
I trim back the little ones as well, for tidiness' sake. Gradually through the winter and as the next flowering approaches, many leaves will die anyway and these should be removed once they can be pulled away easily, and again, burnt.
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Thanks again Lesley for your help and advice. I did notice that the leaves die back and from now on I shall dispose of the leaves.
Us newbies learn so much from this forum and its so generous of people to share there knowledge.
Angie :)
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Angie,
As Lesley says, usually only cut back if needed for sale purposes, or if you're dividing up your clump and need to reduce the wind resistance of the replanted rhizomes (shorter leaves have less wind resistence, which reduces damage to new roots from the rhizome rocking backwards and forwards in the wind). Bear in mind that the leaves are used for feeding, so if you're cutting the leaves off which are green you're cutting off available food supplies. I rarely ever cut mine, just carefully pulling off old brown or dying ones as needed.
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I always cut mine, regardless of lifting etc. And they always flower well Paul. They love a bit of lime forked in around them in autumn.
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Today's effort.
Blinky
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Libation. Very similar, just towards violet instead of red.
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Irwell Angel
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Hot
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Wee Bee. This is identical to what came from another nursery as Busy Bee. As more and more come out, the occasional mistake is noticed and even if correct, some are very close to others from different breeders.
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And 5 more
Little Timothy
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Jolly Joey. This pale green-shaded form is very pretty.
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Taihoa. So is this one with light veining.
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Sapphire Gem. My favourite so far. The colour is limpid and utterly exquisite.
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Nice, Lesley. Best to me are Hot and Sapphire Gem. But I wouldn't sneeze at any of them. ;D
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Leslie, you have a wonderfull collection!! I just like to wake up and come here at the morning. How big your garden? of course acre wont mean any for me ::)
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What an amazing variety in your DBI's Lesley !!
Curio and Hot are my favourites !
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Thanks Lesley & Paul T for your advice,
We have had terrible weather here, non stop rain and wind for days, we are high up so haven't been affected with flooding but what a joy it has been sitting here reading all the old forums, just wish I had a good brain to store all this information :(. I do take all the advice and put it onto my computer then I can look back at all the good advice that I have gathered, this is great :) I have been gathering all the names of the plants which I love, but my list is getting scary. I think I will put my husband golf clubs on EBay to make some money for more plants, don't tell him :-X
Keep all the colourful pictures coming the weekend is rain again for us :(.
Thanks Angie :)
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Being very far from on expert, I do myself more like Paul and do not even cut back the foliage when dividing and replanting. I have mostly older types of medium sized iris. They seem to cope since they do not get much wind where they have been replanted.
In Hungary the taller ones were cut down and still they bloomed well. I think many of these iris are very kind plants that have a wide growing condition to be grown well. To grow them excellently then there might be some issues but Lesley has proven that her regime works well so I think there are a lot of ways that work.
The pictures are like little suns shining when we a rainy morning here so keep them coming 8)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Nice way of putting it Joakim ( little suns shining ) :) Hope your rain goes away soon.
Angie :)
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Hello Joakim!! nice to see you
http://picasaweb.google.com/merczelildiko1973 (http://picasaweb.google.com/merczelildiko1973) here is a photo album, I have got my irises from this collector /Joakim, if you are here in my, I can take you there ::)/
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Erika, Roger and I have about 2 acres (8000 sq metres approx) but I promise you, almost all of it at present is either long grass (we need a couple of sheep in, or a friendly horse) or planted by the previous owner in Pinus radiata and Eucalyptus nitens, as shelter trees. We are on the top of a high and windy hill (like love, as the song says :D) and need the shelter. So the "planted" garden is only about 1/4 of an acre at present but I'm working on that - quite hard in fact and planting out trees and others that have been confined in pots for far too long. This weekend is a public holiday (Labour Weekend), with a national holiday on Monday so today Roger has promised me some help to get the final part of my large soil pile moved and shaped. The weather is very nice fortunately. THEN, I can start to get all these little irises planted out. I don't ever plant them in beds alone, but mixed with other plants which like similar conditions.
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Lesley I was wondering why you had so many irises in pots and not in the ground.
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So, I have started to collect coints to visit Leslie's "realm" ;D ;)
I have planted Santolina chamaecyparissus and sedums with the irises, looks quite interesting ::)
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Erika when going from the airport we almost ended up in Your part of Hungary until we were able to get back through village roads towards south west. We are too short time in Hungary now to be able to do any longer excursions but when the kids are bigger we hopefully can do longer drives, and a visit to the lovely iris garden is very high up on the list on things I would like to visit in Hungary. Hopefully my mother will take photos of the iris when they go to the house next time.
I also hope that the new ones planted in Portugal will flower and some of those are tall bearded ones. Hopefully I have some that are rebloming/remontant but that we will see later.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Erika I think the irises must look very good with the Santolina. I plan to add some of that too. I have about 100 small plants (grown from cuttings) with which I planned to plant a low hedge but since it didn't happen when I intended, it may not happen at all now. A few will get used in other ways though and I think it would be a pleasant and attractive companion for bearded irises.
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I took these yesterday and it's raining today so no new ones right out though lots of colour showing at bud tips.
The first is the first of the taller kinds, this one Apricot Drops, a miniature tall bearded, or table iris. Though not obvious from the picture, it is about 45cms high.
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Jubal
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Moondrops
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Midnight Mist
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Troll, very similar to the taller Apricot Drops.
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Jungle Gem
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Jive
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Buddha Song. This one is in the garden but wishing it were safely in a pot! Though competing with grass, penstemons and a large clump of running sorbus reducta, it still has over 30 stems. I promise I'll rescue it when it finishes flowering. ::)
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Lesley,
you have a great colorful collection of DBI's 8) Thanks for showing.
Budda Song is worth to be rescued ;) :D
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Lesley nice to see the small ones and great that You talk about the height and what they also are called. Dwarfs and tall is known by most but maybe not all of the classes in between so when they appere naturally it would be good if You could keep using "all the names" they go by as You did with Apricot drops. ;D A great way to learn and also getting a feeling for when they bloom relating to the others. 8)
Maybe only part of the Budda song needs to be rescued since it seems to cope?
Then You have some back up plants if needed.
All the best and keep the gems coming.
It is lovely to have both plants in bloom pictures now and discussions about winter treatment in the same thread. It gives extra life to the tread in my mind.
All the best
Joakim
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Thank you both for your support here. I have so many that they could get to be boring.
Only 3 today as we had a real drenching on Sunday and Monday and these look as if they've been through a washing machine.
Lilac Hill is an Intermediate which is between dwarfs and talls, obviously, but a sturdier stem and usually larger flower than the slim table irises which are of similar height as the intermediates, and also called miniature tall bearded. I don't like this term as it is contradictory, and table iris suggests something that is small and elegant enough for table decoration - as they are, though a fairly large table. :)
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The colour of this is deeper and has a brown shading which I've not been able capture. I like it a lot.
Next, Sky Drops, a dwarf whose name is very appropriate today, the heavens having opened yesterday.
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Finally Cherry Pop, a lovely rich red
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All great, Lesley. I rather like Buddhas Song, and quite a few of the others you've posted. I bought a pot of 'Fairy Footsteps' at our Hort Show this last weekend. I think it was posted earlier in this topic, which reminded me how cute it was when I used to have it. ;D I bought another one as well, but can't recall it's name right now. ::)
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Tall Bearded Iris Sultry Mood
Really difficult to photograph. It is an intense plum with purple overlay.
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Ross, what a fantastic shot of your Sultry Beauty iris looking deep inside with satin-like falls - what a colour :D
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Thanks. High winds and heavy rain tonight. Hopefully the Iris blooms cope
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Need to find the label on this one
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Both are beauties Ross.
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Lesley I thought table and intermediate bloomed at different times (usually) am I right?
Both nice, do they smell?
It is easier to smell the tall ones and many do smell very good on a warm day.
Ross are all your dwarfs done now or do they overlap with the tall?
Here I feel that the tallones are quite a bit later than dwarfs and intermediates, but might be only the ons I have. This year will tell since I have planted quite a few new ones now. 8)
Great to see them here while we wait for ours. 8)
Kind regards
Joakim
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I give David a nod - both are beauties, Ross.
Thanks for showing but can't help you to find your lost label nor have a cultivar name available ::)
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Generally the smaller the bearded iris, the earlier it blooms. The talls are the last to bloom but Ross in is a slightly warmer part of the country (maybe :-\) so his talls are a little earlier than mine. They will be in full bloom now, in the North Island. November is their month down here.
Your talls are lovely Ross. I much prefer those clean colours to the many new vars which are streaked and blotched and look to be badly virused and maybe they are. Most of my new talls are single rhizomes and aren't going to flower but by next year they should be up to full strength, I hope.
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Joakim, all the bearded irises, i.e. modern hybrids based originally on I. germanica I guess, are scented. I'm sure Ross's will be and my table and intermediate vars are perfumed too. Sometimes perfumed too much! It can be a bit cloying in a confined space.
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At one point I used to be able to roughly estimate colour based on the scent. Obviously not perfect, but I find that the basic colour types have distinctly different perfumes. My favourites are the blacks, which tended to me to have rich velvety perfume, while some of the yellows smelled like cat urine. One has to be careful which one sticks one's nose in. ;D
Ross,
Your pictures are gorgeous. Sultry Mood is a beauty.... love that colour.
Lesley,
I mentioned that I had bought another dwarf one over the weekend.... I checked and it is called 'Gigglepot'. It wasn't in flower, but was described as apricot. The pics I can find on the Net (not many) look like the name may not be right if the flower is apricot. I just couldn't resist the name. :D
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A TBI called "Friedl" named for a local gardener in the Dandenongs
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A MBI called "Devil's Playground" perhaps named for the film?
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cheers
fermi
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Lesley I thought table and intermediate bloomed at different times (usually) am I right?
Both nice, do they smell?
It is easier to smell the tall ones and many do smell very good on a warm day.
Ross are all your dwarfs done now or do they overlap with the tall?
Here I feel that the tallones are quite a bit later than dwarfs and intermediates, but might be only the ons I have. This year will tell since I have planted quite a few new ones now. 8)
Great to see them here while we wait for ours. 8)
Kind regards
Joakim
Joakim, I don't grow dwarf bearded irises. They generally don't spin my wheels (with some exceptions)
Paul, I agree. I find there are scent trends associated with colour in the TBI's. Although, I can't really define them.
I used to have Crystal Glitters which was off white with yellowish/brown stripes on the shoulders of the falls giving an overall effect of french Vanilla. Incredibly floriferous as well and potently scented (sweet and creamy, like icecream). I really need to find it again.
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I have a very good nose for smells and find that even very subtle differences are detectable, so I'm probably going to start an argument when I suggest (just suggest mind you,) that the colour association has given a perceived scent different. One would EXPECT blacks to smell rich and velvety, and yellow (possibly) to smell of cats' urine. Likewise, an off white to smell of French vanilla ice-cream. I accept that you (Ross and Paul) DO smell these smells in these irises but I think it is the colour of the flower that produces the PERCEPTION of those smells. To me they're all pretty much of a muchness. :)
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Joakim, the table irises and intermediates do flower at slightly different times but as yet I haven't enough of either group to say when. One group is said to flower with the TBs and the other a little earlier. Minature dwarfs first, then standards then the medians then the talls. A good two months overall.
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Here are two more little ones and there will be more later today.
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Lesley I think there is quite a big difference in the intensity of smell and with some you really need to sniff close to feel anything. Some are much stronger and a combination of nice flower and smell is a good mix. Just saw the post after I wrote mine and have the same feeling of the order but in Portugal it starts early and continue to June-July. The Portuguese cultivars / sp (intermediates) are very early in February and even before the dwarfs. They are also very strongly scented.
Regarding colour and smell I would say that often the yellow coloured ones smell more but very far from any cat that I have smell. Either You have bad iris varieties down south or great cats ::) . I hope for the later.
Thanks for the info Ross. I did think of North being warmer than south in "up-side-down" world but was not sure if it is so big difference that the early TBI and late dwarfs overlap. In Portugal they tend to be separated and even more so in Sweden. Maybe only my varieties.
Went around the garden of my mother-in-law today and the plants seem to do OK, but need some extra sand/gravel around the rhizomes.
One white was in flower but it was not at its best after wind and rain. I will have to see if this is a repeat performance or just a bonus flowering that will be as the plants have been disturbed or if that was next years blooming now.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Lesley, Jewellers Art is a fabulous combination of colours, really lovely :)
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in Portugal it starts early and continue to June-July. The Portuguese cultivars / sp (intermediates) are very early in February and even before the dwarfs. They are also very strongly scented.
Regarding colour and smell I would say that often the yellow coloured ones smell more but very far from any cat that I have smell. Either You have bad iris varieties down south or great cats ::) . I hope for the later.
Thanks for the info Ross. I did think of North being warmer than south in "up-side-down" world but was not sure if it is so big difference that the early TBI and late dwarfs overlap. In Portugal they tend to be separated and even more so in Sweden. Maybe only my varieties.
June-July is December-January here and I'd say ours well well over by then so it seems your Portugese cultivars are quite late compared with the American/English/French/Australian vars which are grown here mostly. A lot are bred in New Zealand now too.
I don't think our cats smell so good as an iris but then the irises don't smell as bad as cat either. I think Paul's sense of smell is playing tricks on him. ;D
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Lesley,
Well it is not just mine that does it then.... I know a few people who think that the yellows and some of the blues smell of cat urine. I could also identify at one point (when I used to have my bigger collection) the colours with my eyes closed, so the colour of the flower became irrelevent. You may not detect much difference, but to my nose there is a heck of a lot of difference between individual irises, and they definitely don't all smell the same. I'm sort of glad that they don't, as some of them have the overtones that really aren't nice and I am so glad that they don't ALL have it. I am also wondering whether the soil and/or climate here may bring out more in the perfume than where you are. Certainly I know that differences in soil and climate (and form year to year) can greatly affect the colour of an iris, so I am wondering whether the perfume is also affected?
Who knows (and as I am sure some of you are saying... "who cares"? ;))..... I'm glad I pick up the differences in perfume. It just adds to their beauty (unless you have a car full of them on the way to a show..... then the mixture of all the different perfumes can verge on nauseating!! :o
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Once I took Arisaema sikokianum (or intended to) from Timaru to ChrIstchurch for a show (about 160 kms) and had to put it out of the car after about 30kms, it was so nauseating. I stashed it behind a tree on the side of the road and on the way home, in the dark, couldn't find the right tree for ages.
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Seven more DBs. Tell me when you've had enough.
Be Happy
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Lime Smoothy
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Erin May
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Hot Buttons
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Wild Hair. This is identical to one from another nursery, and called Snickers. I like the antiquey look it has.
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Lesley,
I didn't realise sikokianum had a stench to it. I would imagine there are some that do and some that don't as well. I've not noticed it in the car when I've been transporting it to shows (and I do at times) so maybe the main one I have isn't quite so oderiferous!? I know that the Helicodicerus muscivorus is supposed to be absolutely dreadful, but the clone I have here when it has flowered a couple of times hasn't seemed to smell, even up close. Just lucky I guess. ;D Now the normal Dracunculus vulgaris (due to open here in a couple of days at most) is strong, the Typhonum brownii, Arum dioscoridis etc are all aweful..... sort of nice to have ONE that doesn't smell. ;D And no, I'd never take any of the stinky ones to a show. :o :o
Iris-wise, I love the 'Lime Smoothy' and 'Wild Hair' that you posted. All nice, but those are my favs of your latest postings. 8)
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Hi all. Here is the standard classification of bearded iris.
John
1. Miniature Dwarf Bearded (MDB) -- the tiniest of bearded irises, with height of up to 20 cm (8 inches). They are also the earliest to bloom. They are most effective in rock gardens or planted in drifts where they make a "carpet of color."
2. Standard Dwarf Bearded (SDB) -- some of the most useful garden plants, ranging in height from 20 cm (8 inches) to 41 cm (16 inches). They begin their bloom as the MDBs are ending, still quite early in the iris season. They are best displayed in clumps where they give the effect of a "cushion" of individual blooms. The colors are nearly unlimited since the SDBs show all the different "spot patterns" of the miniatures, as well as the plicatas and pinks seen in the TBs.
3. Intermediate Bearded (IB) -- stand from 41 cm (16 inches) to 70 cm (27 1/2 inches) high, with their bloom season overlapping the SBDs and the TBs. Although the IBs show their dwarf ancestry in early bloom season and very interesting color patterns, they are large enough that their individual stalks may be nicely branched, forming an elegant bouquet. Some varieties are nicest in clumps, where they present a large amount of color (like the SDBs), while others are showiest in specimen plantings, where the stalks and individual blooms may be seen to best advantage.
4. Border Bearded (BB) -- essentially small versions of the TBs in the same height range and bloom size as the intermediates, but blooming with the tall beardeds. Good BBs have round, ruffled petals that complement their small size.
5. Miniature Tall Bearded (MTB) -- this class is distinguished by daintiness and delicacy. Height from 41 cm (16 inches) to 70 cm (27 1/2 inches). The blooms are smaller than on a BB and the stems are thin and wiry. An MTB clump looks like a cloud of butterflies. They are often called "Table Irises" because they are so well suited for arrangements.
6. Tall Bearded (TB) -- have stalks with a height of 70 cm (27 1/2 inches) and above, with branching and many buds. Each stalk, in itself, makes a stately arrangement in the garden or in a vase. In addition to a wide variety of colors and patterns, the TBs display other qualities (such as ruffling and lacing) more frequently than do the other classes
Incidentally, the word "median" refers to all the bearded irises except the miniature dwarfs and the tall beardeds; that is to say the SDBs, IBs, BBs and the MTBs. Strictly speaking, the word "dwarf" means only the MDBs.
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So in other words the classifications have been made so hard that they can't be used by the general public? I much preferred when it used to be in general terms Dwarf, Median and Tall beardeds, which was the usual usage when I was collecting them 10 to 15 years ago. Obviously they needed more show categories or sections they could be sold as. I'd never heard the term Miniature Tall Bearded until Lesley mentioned it recently ;D They really are out to confuse, aren't they? So what happens to those that are on the borderline of all of these? I can think of a few points where they intersect that could make it a complete nightmare trying to work out what something is...... and the heights etc vary SO much depending on climate and soil conditions (as do the colours). ::)
I must admit I was thinking of getting back into collecting them, but if the classifications are like that now I am just going to go for the pretty colours and ignore the categories. ;D The class MTB reminds me of some turf I was sowing recently..... Miniature Tall Fescue..... doesn't that just make it "Average" Fescue? ;D ;D ;)
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Thanks for that Pat. I have it somewhere but the piles of paper around here have buried anything at all useful.
Paul, I can sympathise with you regarding strict classifications but I guess wherever there are many varieties and a society to bring them all together, there are bound to be some "rules" whether we like it or not, especially when there are shows around the world for that genus alone, whether it is Iris, auricula, Narcissus, roses or whatever.
While I mentally put each into its right place, it's their colours and characters that I look for in an iris and I'm not too bothered about M, I, B or T, but when someone asks, it's handy to know. I don't think we should get hung up on classifications. Just enjoy the irises.
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Seven more DBs. Tell me when you've had enough.
I will never have enough Lesley - they're all cute !
Cherry lavender and Be happy are my favourites !
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Thanks for the definitions John
Lesley I meant to say that the Portuguese cultivars are early and based on the wild ones like subbiflora and albicans purple and white respectively, while the TBI are coming much later. The TBI are the international ones from France and the States and some that has been a round for a while. June-July is an estimation of the last ones. They might have been grown suboptimal last year to be this late but I will keep better track of flowering times this year. I do not think we will get bored of the plants for quite a while so keep them coming. 8)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Now, come on Lesley, name your top six dwarf beardies from the stock you have ;D
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Lesley I am arillady and John is arilnut ::) ;D
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Now, come on Lesley, name your top six dwarf beardies from the stock you have ;D
I would be curious about this list too ;) I think it is a big job ;D
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Lesley I am arillady and John is arilnut ::) ;D
Ah, but Arilnut is which John? We have several. ;D
Paul I've never noticed any scent much from A sikokianum in the garden - and as you know, I have a bloodhound nose (metaphorically speaking ;D) so I guess it was the closed car (a mere mini at that time) that produced the smell and the fact that I almost certainly had the heater on.
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Don't think I could name 6 favourites at present, some having finished and some still in bud. This augers well for a good long flowering season in future. When they've finished and I have pictures of them all I may think about it again. Some like Cherry Lavender are at the forefront because having had them previously they are like old friends returned, always welcome therefore.
The pictures will turn out to be useful as next year I'll have some to sell at the NZAGS (too early for flowers) show. So there's method in my current posting madness. :)
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5 new overnight. Today is very mild (to 21C we're told) and with a light, warm breeze. Just beautiful but we had more rain in the night. We've had some rain every night for a fortnight or more.
Jazzamataz which Fermi has shown already
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Marksman which is a very nice orange, compared to others
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Kentucky Bluegrass. I think this could get to be a favourite. The blue and green combination is very nice
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Lesley,
I just love Marksman. Great colour and excellent beards. Do you let seed set on any of your dwarves? With the range of colours you've got it would be interesting to see what colours you ended up with in the seedlings. You should try your own hybridising..... you never know what you'd end up with. At least with the dwarves it wouldn't take quite so much space. ::)
Thanks for all your pics. I have had a couple of days of Tall Beardeds myself, a bus trip yesterday to an Iris Nursery a few hours from here, and a visit today to a friend who specialises in irises. SO many irises I want now, plus about 10 of them that I bought or was given, and more to order of course from the catalogue. ;D So many glorious flowers in so many colours. 8) 8) 8)
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Paul, I get the occasional pod courtesy of bees I guess but have never hand-pollinted for seed. I may do, perhaps next season rather than this. You realize, don't you, it'll soon be Christmas and the year gone. But where? As Kristl says, "so many species, so little time."
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Lesley, everyday is like magic with all the surprises and lovely iris you seem to 'pull out of the hat', the colours and markings give each plant a different character.
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I give up Lesley... ;) they're all little beauties alike ! 8)
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Absolutely beautiful colours again, thanks for brightening up our day Lesley.
Angie :)
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Here are 6 more. The last 3 in particular have beautiful, subtle colouring unlike anything else. The pics themselves are poor, took them in a great hurry before it got too dark last night.
Little Grackle, almost black, much darker than the picture.
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Lilac and Ice, an Intermediate, about 45cms
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Another Intermediate, Bird Dancer
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Shamrock Fan
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Smokey Babe. This is much nicer than the pic suggests, a delicate lavender/grey, washed with lemon. I really love this one.
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I used to have Little Grackle. It is my favourite of the small ones. Must try and get another piece
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Smokey Babe on my list ::)
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I used to have Little Grackle. It is my favourite of the small ones. Must try and get another piece
It's available from Marion Rutherford near Invercargill, Ross. Otherwise, I could take a little bit from mine in the summer.
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Just 3 today and though there are a lot more to come, I'm not taking any more pics until the talls start. I don't have many of those at present, so it won't be the marathon the dwarfs have been. :D
Abriged Version, a miniatute tall bearded, or table iris. The colour is a slightly coffee-tinted pink, a little bit smokey.
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Proton is a dwarf and I like the red speckling under the white beard.
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Vavoom, a clean yellow/white
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Lesley its been a marathon that I have enjoyed not to much hard work for me at this end, just real enjoyment seeing your dwarf irises. I must source some out here, but I can see a problem ahead trying to choose which ones to buy is going to be hard.
Angie :)
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Lesley, just take pics!! Here is cold and rainy, so I need some spring feeling ;D
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I concur with Erika. Continue taking pics (if You can) it is great to see them.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Are you interested in pics of Tall Beardeds that I took at an Iris nursery last weekend, and in a friend's garden? They aren't my own place, which is why I figured it wasn't worth posting them.
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Well I for one would like to see them, Paul, you can't grow everything although your garden produces so much ;D
It's always interesting for me to see what is being grown in specialist nurseries
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Lesley,
I shall add my voice to the throng, keep em coming!
Vavoom is a little stunner, I love that lemon meringue effect!! :P
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Paul, let"s see those pics!! Do not be selfish ;D ;D
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Yes Paul
Angie :)
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OK, I really wasn't sure about posting from other than my garden, which is why I asked. Lesley has been posting such beauties I didn't want to interrupt them.
All these are Tall Bearded Irises. I'll start with a couple from my garden....
'Our Clare'
'Lotus Land' (which was where the hoverfly pics were taken, although it had moved on when this pic was taken)
'Starring', plus a closeup of the lovely blendings of colour in the style arms, and the contrast with the falls and beard. These pics don't quite do the flower justice, but they give you the idea.
Iris unknown....... it has a name, but I can't recall it. I have had it for a number of years, so it isn't recent, but if you have ideas for which one it is please mention them. I'll know it when I hear it.
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Here's a few from the Iris nursery we visited last week (Rainbow Ridge, if you want the name of the nursery)..
Some of these were indoors on display, with rhizomes for sale, so the pics won't be as good as those which are outdoors in better light and sunshine etc.
'Ali's Choice'
'Baby Blush' (I bought a rhizome of this one)
'Bright Mia'
'Dark Top' (I bought a rhizome of this ones too!!)
'Forbidden Fruit'
'Queen's' somethingorother (I've forgotten the second name. ::))
'Whispering Spirits'.
Given these were taken in a display garden I could not tailor many of the pics for appearance, so there are old flowers, poor angles because of access etc. They aren't brilliant pics, but they still show the flower colour. I just wanted to apologise for the apparent lack of attention to detail..... cleaning up old flowers and moving petals etc was something I was not prepared to do in someone else's garden obviously enough.
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Howdy again all,
These are from a friend's garden (he specialises in growing iris). I'm trying not to overdo it with too much from any one place, just giving a selection from each.
I'll start with a few that I either grow myself and don't have flowering this year, or have just bought some rhizomes of from my friend. ;D ;D
'Creative Stitchery'
'Going Home', plus a pic of one of the clumps he had in flower.
'Life of Riley'
'Living Free'
And a few of the other beauties he had there....
'Cheryl Anne Oleary' - this doesn't do it justice. It is so much richer and more contrasted in reality.
'Jaunty Dancer'
'Qualified'
'Sidney's Choice' - fantastic combination, such a rich clean golden yellow and pure white.
That's a selection of what was at both the iris nursery and my friend's place. By no means all the pics I took, that is for sure. ::) ;D
Enjoy.
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Paul, thanks for posting such a selection....my favourites are Starring, Cheryl Anne Oleary and Creative Stitchery but in reality they each have something so different that is appealing - spoilt for choice....rather like trying to select a chocolate :D
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Hi Paul
They are all sensational 8) but I love going home, the picture of the clump of going home is wonderful.
Thanks for sharing.
Angie :)
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I just plant "going home" hope will flower in May
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Yes, 'going home' is really lovely too and I wondered if you had any other photos of clumps of those you have shown, Paul, as it does give a very different perspective of the Iris ::)
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Robin,
I must admit, I didn't take any other clump shots. I took a few general shots of the irises, but nothing that clearly shows clumps like that. That one was such a nice clump I couldn't resist it.
For those wanting some other spring scenes I will hopefully tomorrow load a bunch of pics in the southern hemisphere topic of some local open gardens we had here. I even took a photograph of the sky at one point, so that you people in the midst of winter could remember what it looks like....... it will of course just be a square of glorious blue, with no clouds or anything, but that will just have to do. ;D Hopefully I'll get them prepared tomorrow for you. I can post the other pics of the iris garden if you're wanting them too. 8)
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Yes please :D
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Pleased you're posting these Paul. My taller vars aren't out yet but in any case, yours are different names from mine so there will be a wide selection to look at. Doesn't matter that they're not your own. It gives people an idea of what they may want to order (or want NOT to order :D). What an incredible selection of colour combinations bearded irises give us. Truly something for everyone.
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Every time I look at these bearded iris, I think of Las Vegas showgirls or can-can dancers from the Moulin Rouge! ;D They make Dame Edna look restrained, don't they?
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Paul, thank you for showing these bright pictures. Looking at them I get 'summer feelings'. :)
Though I cannot complain about today, when I could walk through the garden in lovely sunshine, but there are hardly any flowers here at the moment.
In November we are reaching the so called 'dark days before Christmas' :(
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Great show Paul !
The vote of the Belgian jury goes to "Starring" 8)
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As an illustration of how many bearded irises are around, and how many different breeders, I have recently had three new catalogues from specialist TB growers, and not a single one of Paul's pictured vars is mentioned. Many are Australian, most are American. The very subtle differences between so many different named vars also shows how it is important if at all possible, to visit the nurseries before choosing, rather than order from a printed catalogue. Not always an option though.
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Just this one today, a Table iris or Min TB, called New Idea. I like it because the foliage is very healthy and short, the stems well above it. Also, the two stems on a new plant will have at least 10 flowers. It is a little like the Arilbred 'Vera.'
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Many of the irises I showed have come from the iris nursery we visited (Rainbow Ridge). Some of the pics I showed are of varieties that have not yet been released (at least two of those I pictured are slated to be released next year, according to their labels). I buy most of my irises from them, as does the friend I showed the pics from his garden. 'Dark Top' and 'Baby Blush' are recently registered seedlings that haven't yet been released and at this stage don't have a release date. So there are 4 of them that you really couldn't have found in any catalogues as yet.
I must admit that I agree with the Belgian Jury. I saw a big clump at the nursery of 'Starring' and it stood out brilliantly. I had a feeling that I had bought it last year and I had. Unfortunately it is a single rhizome that is flowering without offsetting this year, so I am hoping that it will put on a late fan or two or else I will have to purchase it again after it flowers out. :o
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It may be something of a sacrifice Paul but if you were to cut the flowering stem now or well before it finishes flowering, that would be the best possible start for new fans. With no flower to put energy to, it will make new growths.
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Lesley,
I did that to all of those (I have had a few this year) that are in danger of flowering out. Some were neatly before the iris show, so it worked well. The others were enjoyed inside in the house. I don't know whether it really helps or not, but I figured it was worth a try. I had wondered about whether to try to set seed on a flower, just to elongate the season that the plant remains active, then nick the rhizome slightly to try to stimulate offsetting, but decided instead to just remove the flowers and hope!! :o
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Paul some lovely ones there.
I could care if it is grown by You or if the photos comes from the garden of the PM.
If it is Iris I love to see it.
Only now I have the opportunity to post the pic of the sorry looking iris that flowered end of October.
I took the pic after the flower had seen its best time. The weather was bad with rain so that explain the shabby conditions of the plant but as a contrast how the HS plants look it is worth posting it. I did not detect much scent in the cold weather.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Paul some lovely ones there.
I could(n't) care if it is grown by You or if the photos comes from the garden of the PM.
I would like our current PM better if he did grow irises. On the other hand one from some years ago grew a great collection of lilies and I couldn't stand HIM. Pompous little... But on his death, his widow advertised and distributed free of charge, much of his collection and seed from it, to a grateful gardening public.
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Jings, a rare case of public benefit from a politician... albeit a dead one :P
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Jings, a rare case of public benefit from a politician... albeit a dead one :P
Is that tantamount to saying; " the only good politician is a dead one"? ??? ;D ;D ;D
cheers
fermi
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Lesley,
I think you earlier mentioned a remontant DBI with purple flowers, and I wonder if it's the same as this one;
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If so, what is it's name, please?
cheers
fermi
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It looks very much the same Fermi though I guess it's not possible to be quite sure from a picture. If so, it is called 'The Gem.' I was pretty sure it was raised by Jean Stevens in NZ way back but I don't see it in the Checklist of NZ Raised irises, so maybe not.
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I saw today the first of the 2010-flowers already now. It is the purple one and it was flowering below the cable ride in Lisbon Zoo so no picture but I have shown these before. Here they where quite big MBI to TBI I would say.
They will be on for quite a while until March due to the weather getting cold. It gives an early start does it not.
Kind regards
Joakim
EDIT May 2010:
This older thread/ topic has been split off from a new thread :Bearded Iris 2010 by Maggi.
See the current topic here:
Bearded Iris 2010
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5423.0