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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: fermi de Sousa on June 02, 2009, 12:24:07 AM
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June is the "official" start of winter in Australia though it may take a bit longer to sink in after our torrid summer.
To continue the crocus theme we've a flowering on Crocus ochroleucus (grown from seed from Marcus Harvey) which appear the same to me as C. pulchellus except that they flower with their foliage as Otto may've mentioned earlier.
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Here's the cluster of C. pulchellus for comparison
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And Oxalis kaajvoegensis continues to shine in the sunshine,
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cheers
fermi
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The petal shape is a little different and maybe also the shape of the yellow patches in the throat, but I'm clutching at straws there. Have to go by the leaves therefore.
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Now that I have found my camera heres a Clematis florida seiboldii that I have flowering in the veranda for the first time and still throwing out more flower buds. I thought it was going to go dormant as we've already had a couple of frosts. It seems to enjoys the warmth of the day and the cold of the night down to 10c /4c and occassional 0c so far but is protected by frost.
Anyone else grow potted speciemens of Clematis in such a situation in a veranda, I guess its like a open glass house?
Cheers
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A super plant Stephen. One of my many "used to have" plants. :'( it seems impossible to buy it now, at least in NZ.
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Clematis florida seiboldii is an intriguing and glorious flower - I grew it through Wisteria on a south facing sun baked sandstone wall but with shade later in the afternoon - I love it and it's great to see it growing so well for you Stephen close up ;)
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Stephen,
That is one of the nicest double clematis, but I haven't been able to get it here either.
Yet another white crocus! C. cancellatus ssp mazzariacus is now open - at least it was on Friday when I got this pic.
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And one of the nerines which I think maybe a species but was "rediscovered" in the garden without a label; does anyone know it? I have a feeling it might be N. crispa but that could be fanciful thinking on my part. ::)
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The salmon form of Oxalis hirta is lovely and a bit different to the typical one.
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
If the Nerine has a long slender stem to the scape it could be N. undulata? How big are the flowers?
The Clematis appears here in the nurseries the last couple of years. It comes from Alameda Homestead Nursery (I think that spelling is right) from memory. There have been the Clematis florida 'sieboldii' and C. f. flore plena available. Both of mine up and died last year which was most dissapointing. The sieboldii was something I had wanted for years, and had had growing quite happily for a couple before it died for no reason that I am aware of. I can only assume that somewhere in there it dried out despite having it's own watering pipe. I will probably try it again, although at somewhere around $50 it might be a while before I can afford it. They should appear in nurseries again in spring as they come into flower, when the jackmanii hybrids start appearing. Or don't the Victorian nurseries have victorian stock (I'm not being facetious here, sometimes the "local" stock isn't held by local nurseries). I can let you know when they arrive here if you want, so you can look around for them then? Let me know.
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Hi All,Clematis florida sieboldii is avaliable from this link and only $20.00.
www.clematiscottage.com.au. They must have seen you coming Paul to charge you $50.00.
bye Ray
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Ray,
It might actually have been Clematis Cottage rather than Alameda.... we get both sources represented at nurseries. The $50 plant (it could have been $40, I really can't remember) is an 8 inch plastic pot in full flower and probably 4 feet tall. What you get mail order usually (I have no idea for this nursery) is nothing like that size. The 6 inch smaller pots are usually around the $20, but they did not include the C. florida sieboldii last year. By now, they may be supplying them in the smaller pots as well, but they definitely were not available last year in the nurseries here. You buy what you can get. ;D
Any time you buy directly from a supplier you usually get it cheaper than through a nursery anyway, due to transport and markups. I have found a few times with mail order places that you are much better to pay the extra and buy a plant healthy and in flower instead of bare rooted in the mail. I haven't tried clematis by mail order in quite a few years though.
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I have two magnificent sentinels flowering at the entrance to my property at the moment - both Aloe arborescens x ferox hybrids (...with a smattering of other genes for good measure and colour). This is a very special time in southern Africa when local gardens and the drab hillsides of KZN are ablaze with countless Aloe blossoms:
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What fiery colours, Rogan.... lovely to see.
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Fermi , lovely photo of your Crocus cancellatus ssp. mazziaricus - here there is a light covering of snow since this afternoon . I should have taken photos before it snowed of some early winter flowering bulbs in my garden : Corydalis popovii , Colchicum doerfleri and
hungaricum -hopefully the snow has not flattened them .
Clematis florida sieboldii was available last year from Cloudehill Nursery , bought mine
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Oh Otto, I'd love to ask you to pick up one for me, to collect when I next visit, but..... :(
I could have a lot of fun at that Clematis nursery ::)
My corydalis popovii isn't up yet so I hope it hasn't.......
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Rogan,
A real blaze of colour. Fantastic.
Otto,
We've had snow overnight on the hills around Canberra.
Lesley,
Given the cold front that is going through here the next few days I would suggest you batten down the hatches for a few days time. Given you get snow more regularly than we do, you're almost guaranteed it when this front comes through. Behind it is solid cold. We're forecast -3'C on Friday morning at this stage, which along with tomorrow (-2'c) will be the first real frosts for Canberra this winter. We've had the odd frost forecast, but nothing below 0 to -1 and in my garden the tree dahlias are still in full flower and looking lovely. I am doubting they will be by the weekend. :'(
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You're probably right Paul. We have a lovely morning now, 12C, no wind and bright sun with no frost last night but the forecast for the weekend is pretty horrid, just in time for yet another (the fourth in a row it will be) filthy Market day for me.
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We're had three mornings in a row of hard frosts and the nerines which just started last week are taking it pretty hard; this is what they looked like on Wednesday
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And this is them again this morning.
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They manage to straighten themselves out during the day but look a bit tired in the mornings! I think they're the pink version of N. flexuosa "Alba" which is now called N. humilis, though I don't see it myself.
Next is that nerine which I posted earlier which Paul suggsted might be N. undulata; it looks similar to the pic on the PBS wiki site by Cameron McMaster of that species.
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A couple of sites mention that N. crispa is a synonym for N. undulata, so that seems to sort that out!
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Sorry I haven't yet posted any pics to the June topic. Just haven't got the chance to do the photo preparation. ::)
Yes, Canberra's -6'C (or whetever we actually got here in my own garden) did a whole bunch of things in on Wednesday night as well. The poor tree dahlias are toast. I'll post a pic when I eventually get things sorted out, to show what they looked like when in full beautiful bloom. The double white tree dahlia "nearly" made it into flower this year, but missed by a few days. Not sure when I'll get the pics prepared as has been a chaotic week waiting for my father to finally pass away. Happened this morning thankfully (this is a very good thing, so no condolences needed or anything like. Just a relief) so hopefully I can get my mind back on the job again and get things done. ;D
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Howdy All,
OK, I've finally done some preparation work. I have a bunch of pics from my garden, a friend's garden a couple of hours north of here, plus a few IDs that will go down into the ID section.
Here's the tree dahlias (Dahlia imperialis) and the Dahlia excelsa (a slightly smaller species, that starts flowering much earlier if it gets more water than it has this year ::)). These were taken last week..... and they're all black and sad now. :'(
The imperialis were about 6.5m tall, whilst the excelsa would have been about 4.5 if they hadn't been leaning over and trying to interfere with our washing line. :o
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And a poppy that is currently in flower (just got the first couple of the atlantic poppies out so far), and the Canarina canariensis which was flowering for me for the first time from seed sown a few years ago. The flower got toasted by the -6'C, but the plant itself is still struggling along. Once it gets frosted it will go into dormancy until next autumn, if last year is anything to go by. At least I got an open flower on it this year, although much larger than I had thought it would be. ;D
Also attached is a pic of what I bought as Colchicum cretense but which I think we worked out last year was perhaps cupanii or something like that (search function brings up nothing about it, but I seem to recall us discussing it last year). Is flowering much later than my C. cupanii I have under that name though. ::)
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Hmmmm.... not sure exactly where to post some pics from my friend's garden. Just a few shots of things from in his garden, but he isn't a named or open garden so it doesn't fit into the "places to visit" section. Any ideas where I should post these pics?
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Wonderful pics, Paul, both the Canarina and those amazing Dahlia in particular.
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Paul,
Growing a tree dahlia outside must be great - what a fascinating sight!
Gerd
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Thank you both. Glad you enjoyed the pics. I love the tree dahlias for their architectural value as well. I have a double white that never flowers, but it is chunkier than the imperialis, and all green. It is such a solid upright chunky grower that I love it even without the flowers.
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Hmmmm.... not sure exactly where to post some pics from my friend's garden. Just a few shots of things from in his garden, but he isn't a named or open garden so it doesn't fit into the "places to visit" section. Any ideas where I should post these pics?
Why not post 'em here, Paul?
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Paul, thank you for your contributions.I am sorry that the winter started in your region.
The tree dahlias are so impressive to, didn't know about their existence before being a
forumist.( Another good reason to express my sincerest thanks to Maggi, Fred and all the
unnamed helpers who keep this unique thing running).
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Paul your tree Dahlias look amazing. such a shame they were cut short but your Canarina canariensis is thriving and very interesting outside and in ;)
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Rudi,
I'm not sorry winter has started in a lot of ways....... namely Galanthus and Hellebores etc. ;D I don't particularly like the cold, but the interesting little treasures do start up now. ;)
Glad you're both enjoying the tree dahlias. They get hit by frost every year, so it isn't like it is unexpected. They got a lot more flowers open this year than they do some years.
Maggi,
OK, I'll do so. Just wasn't sure as it wasn't "my" garden I was showing.
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From my friend's garden a few hours north of here, in a somewhat wetter area near Sydney....
Lapageria rosea - lovely mid pink form.
Massonia pustulata - the only one left of 9 different Massonias after someone came into his yard a few days before my visit and stole the rest of them. He knows who, but can't prove it. ::)
A very cool little mushroom.
A massive rock retaining wall he constructed when they built the house. Has lots of little pockets for growing plants in it.
And Hakea bakeriana, a shot of the whole plant and a shot of how the flowers come directly from the trunk. Very cool. :D
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I have to laugh as my friend's main weed are Staghorn (Platycerium superbum) and Elkhorn (Platycerium bifurcatum) ferns. The spores drift up from the ravine beside his property. So many pots in his shadehouse have little ones growing out of the drainage holes etc. Here is a shot of a mature staghorn fern that he has growing on a tree (this fern is huge!) and a few shots of a staghorn that has taken over the pot of a small orchid, just to show you how it has completely covered more than a half of the pot after germinating in the top of the potting mix. The other shot shows the drainage holes of one of his other pots, with an elkhorn growing in each hole. ::)
It's dreadful some of the pests that some people have to deal with, isn't it? ;) ;D
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Hi Paul,
has your friend tried "Fongarid"? ;D
I love that Hakea bakeriana - I must look out for it down here.
Here's a pic of the Nerine (?flexuosa syn humilis?)this morning to show that it does recover after frost, though not all the stems have "re-set"!
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And starting to flower in the Rock garden - Narcissus "Camoro" which Ian often shows us in the Bulblog as it is a Scottish hybrid. Does this look true to type?
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cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
I don't think you'll find the Hakea anywhere. Very, very small colony of the plant and my friend had permission to collect seed to provide to a few of the Aus native experts. The seed from memory takes 5 or 7 years to mature, but his are a couple of the very few in "captivity". Amazing plant!!
Would Fongarid work on fern spores? ;)
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And Hakea bakeriana, a shot of the whole plant and a shot of how the flowers come directly from the trunk. Very cool.
Really glad you posted the photos you took of your friend's garden, Paul, its' another world and absolutely fascinating! The CU of the Hakea bakeriana flower is like a pink firework and the ferns like statues :)
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Very interesting, Paul. The Hakea is fascinating, and the Platyceriums look like invaders from another world!
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Such amazing postings from down under !! :o :o
I had never heard from or seen a three Dahlia before - awesome plants Paul !!! Pity they flower so late in the season that they get frost bitten... are they native to your part of the world ??
Thanks for showing all these rarities ! :D
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The weather in OZ still looks pretty nice. A bit different here this morning, with some snow overnight.
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Two pics of a pot of Nerine flexuosa alba. Good to have this in flower in mid winter but I don't think it expected this.
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Salvia confertiflora outside the kitchen window in a little frost-free alcove but the snow got in here.
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And some doggy pics to finish before I (and they) retire towards the fireplace.
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Teddy in the snow. He loves to eat it and it sticks to his woolly beard.
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Cain gets a coatful and shakes it off once he comes into the house.
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It's snowing heavily as I type and the Tropaeolum ciliatum on a fence across the garden looks like Hydrangea petiolaris with big bunches of white Snow flowers.
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I warned you, Lesley! Told you you'd get snow. ;D
I posted a response in this topic last night, which is no longer showing. Have we had a rebuild of the system overnight or something? It was in response to where the Dahlias came from. I'll sort of repeat it here.........
Dahlias as far as I know originate from the Mexico area. Dahlia excelsa (which I posted a pic of a flower) should flower a couple of months earlier than the imperialis, if they get enough water to do so. The last couple of years they haven't had enough water and they have flowered very late. For those in cooler climates the excelsa would be the way to go. They grow really easily from cuttings too. 8)
No idea where that response went, but it was close to what I've included here. More or less. ::)
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Lesley, what a shock to the system for you and for us to see these snowy pics from your garden - we've only just come out of the cold and I felt like putting a woolly on to view your postings ;D Your dogs seem to be enjoying the snow, ours loves it too - I wonder why it makes them so playful; we all seem to be kids in the snow? ;)
Would like to see more pics of your winter garden shapes (if I can find that woolly)
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I posted a response in this topic last night, which is no longer showing. Have we had a rebuild of the system overnight or something? It was in response to where the Dahlias came from. I'll sort of repeat it here.........
Don't know what has happened, Paul..... :-\ :P
That snow looks too cold for me at this time of year, Lesley, no wonder so many Kiwis visit here for our summer!
Teddy is growing at speed isn't he? I like his rough coat.... makes him look very butch :)
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It's weird Maggi. I 100% guarantee I posted a message here that has gone without my knowledge. Doesn't really matter in the scheme of things, but I do wonder how many others may disappear from more transient visitors who don't notice there post has gone missing (that is of course if this is not just a one-off occurrence with my post). Very strange. :-\
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Fred says that sometimes a post may go missing if the server is refreshing at exactly the time a post is made, I think, so that may be what happened. ???
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Yes Maggi, Teddy is growing VERY quickly. When he had his stitches out on Satuday, the vet couldn't find them because the hairs on what remained had grown so long. He gets hairier every day and his little beard is longer than Roger's now. He's a real armful to pick up but I'm pleased to say, likes to be lifted and have a cuddle. Very fond of toast and honey too. ???
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Fermi,
If the Nerine has a long slender stem to the scape it could be N. undulata? How big are the flowers?
Hi Paul,
here's a pic to compare this nerine (presumably N. undulata) to what I think is the pink form of N. flexuosa (which would make it N. humilis)
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Also in flower is the white form of Massonia depressa while the red is still in bud,
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cheers
fermi
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I only have Massonia depressa and the buds didn't open properly last year. I think I should pot it and put it somewhere safer over winter. It's in a raised bed at present. Haven't seen it since the snow (still under cover here) so I hope it's still alive and not turned to mush.
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Massonia depressa is still to open here for me. I only have it and M. jasminiflora as adult plants, as yet. I have a few other seedlings coming along, including hopefully some proper pustulata with good leaves..... grown it a few times from seeds but so far only smooth leaves. Not flowered any of them as yet to know for sure what they are.
So Fermi, how is your lovely red one going? Did you get seeds and seedlings from it last year? I know you showed us what looked like seed forming at one point. Here's hoping you were successful and the seedlings have come up OK. That colour was spectacular and needs to be spread around the place. Such a good strong red.
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Massonia depressa is still to open here for me. So Fermi, how is your lovely red one going? Did you get seeds and seedlings from it last year? I know you showed us what looked like seed forming at one point. Here's hoping you were successful and the seedlings have come up OK. That colour was spectacular and needs to be spread around the place. Such a good strong red.
Very disappointingly none of the seedpods contained any viable seed - actually nothing at all! I wonder if it was because it was self-pollinated: enough to set off pod production but not enough to form seed. It will open well after the white though, so no chance of crossing them unless I can save some pollen. But would the colour come out any good? I'll try half and half perhaps, but how to differentiate between the (possible) seed?
Any suggestions?
P.S. Paul, you know you're on "the list" if any seed are produced!
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Thanks. Hopefully you can try again this year and hopefully it will work out better. Can but try. The friend of mine I visited who had his stolen had a dark pink apparently too, from memory. Even if we can find someone else that has another dark one we could harvest pollen and trade it to maximise seed etc. Never seen anything other than white or very pale shades myself, so can't help in that regard unfortunately. You're right, the cross between a pale and dark would likely not produce much dark, but then again might be worth trying it just in case. At least that way the offspring could be crossed again to see whether they could throw to the dark parent.... and maybe there might be a range of colours in the first generation anyway? Would be nice to keep the dark "pure" though.
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This is the darkest form of M. depressa that we have - not really 'dark' at all! I would be glad to see a picture of your red one, Fermi.
What you can try is to collect pollen from your white form, microwave it for 20 seconds or so to inactivate it, mix it with pollen from your red form and then apply the mixture to the stigmas of your red form. This is supposed to dupe the plant into thinking it is being cross polinated making it accept its own pollen as foreign - or so the story goes. Here I have to admit that I've never tried this myself! :-[
...worth a try if nothing else. :)
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Hmmmmm? I tried to post a pic but the "attach" part doesn't allow me to "browse" for a pic. I wonder if this is an "upgrade" or a temporary glitch?
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Fermi,
Seems to work fine for me (I didn't actually upload, but could get into the browse area), so might have just been a glitch.
Rogan,
I quite like that darker depressa. Interesting to see leaf markings as mine has pure green leaves and white flowers.
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Fermi, I thought your red was a different species, not depressa?
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Fermi, I thought your red was a different species, not depressa?
Hi Lesley,
according to Geoff Wilson who sold it to me, it's now most likely to be considered a form of M. depressa.
The "browse" faciltity is back so I've uploaded the pic from last July.
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
So any chance of getting a second one or pollen from Geoff? It really is lovely.
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Thanks for the pic Fermi, it really is a lovely form.
As we have several plants of the flesh-coloured form, I'll try and get them to set some seed to spread around.
Lesley, Isn't it nice when somebody is made to eat their own words - Pakistan metered out harsh punishment to us last night didn't they :'(
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Rogan,
I would definitely be interested in seed if you have some to spare. I'd love to try for different colours. The "normal" white depressa has started opening it's first flowers in the last day or two.
Here's some stuff flowering for me at the moment... The double Epacris impressa is still flowering, weeks after I first showed it. The Arisarum vulgare is putting up flowers here and there, but for some reason I never get a solid display of them. I'm always happy with any that I manage to get. ;) And the Lithops are flowering out of season, as they are supposed to flower in late summer, not winter. For some reason they are all flowering now, with another half dozen flowers opening since this pic was taken a week or so ago. Very strange.
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Always had a liking for Lithops, and as a child I kept some in my bedroom, hiding them under the bed if my mother was likely to invade. She hated them, said they looked lke human innards!
The Epacris is definitely "impressa" Paul. Looks like a really good garden shrub.
Yes Rogan, we do suffer don't we? For my part, I never learn that I musn't gloat about someone else losing (Aussie mostly) when we have yet to play a match. It always comes back to haunt me. My current hopes are with Sri Lanka. Not that I'm fond of them lately though. :'(
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A few pics of plants flowering now.bye Ray
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Narcissus cantabricus.jpg
Galanthus elwesii.jpg
next two.... double Helleborus IMG_0666.JPG
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On behalf of our new member Pat,some pics taken on Friday.bye Ray
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Romulea hallii.jpg
Massionia.jpg
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Ray,
I love that pink Massonia. Any idea of what species it is? We've been discussing Fermi's dark coloured Massonia recently..... yours (or actually Pat's) is pretty spectacular as well.
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On behalf of our new member Pat,some pics taken on Friday.bye Ray
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Romulea hallii.jpg
Massionia.jpg
Welcome, Pat, good to have you join us! And thanks, Ray for lending a hand! 8)
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I've been asked to post a few pics for Marcus:
Crocus biflorus ssp melantherus
Crocus chrysanthus "Sunspot"
Cyclamen hederifolium "Stargazer"
and Iris acutiloba ssp lineolata
Enjoy! I can see something else I'll have to order from him next year!
cheers
fermi
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Isn't "Stargazer" fun - and very wrong! I've never seen the likes of it before :o
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Wow, Fermi. The Cyclamen hederifolium "Stargazer" is very strange, and yet I just love it!! (OK, I realise no-one is surprised! ::)). And that wonderful Iris acutiloba ssp lineolata.... and flowering now? Is it always this early?
Thanks for the pics Marcus (and you Fermi for posting them).
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Yes, it's very nice but I think I prefer my Cyclamen a little understated! :-[
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The Iris may be an imported one Paul, and out of season. Good to see 'Sunspot' doing so well in Oz. Must write a quick note to Marcus.
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Lesley,
Thanks for pointing out the 'Sunspot'. Do be honest I hadn't even noticed that was what it was as I was drawn to the others. ;D You want to put a note in for me too when you're contacting Marcus? ;) I do like that black centre. 8)
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Thought I'd drop in a quick picture here of the Lithops I showed when they were in flower a couple of weeks ago (that photo was taken on the 10th June)
( see here ==> http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3644.msg98191#msg98191 )
They're still flowering madly (this photo taken today), with more buds showing even now. Should have flowered in March. ::)
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Good to see the flowers from Marcus - I just posted a Crocus that I received from Marcus on the Crocus thread.
Here is two separate Iris planifolia clumps
the single flower is grown from NARGS seed from Spain and the other heathy huge clump (with two different shades of blue) is ex BIS seed from France in 2002
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You can see by some of my posts that I can get the gravel in sharp focus ;)
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You can see by some of my posts that I can get the gravel in sharp focus ;)
very handy that is, too, Pat! Great for the gravel enthusiasts..... they do exist!!
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Pat,
Are these Junos already in flower for you? I didn't realise they were so early! Stunning clumps, of such glorious flowers. I think I bought a planifolia from Marcus this year (I bought a few junos from Marcus, and right at the moemnt can't remember which species I bought ::)), so hopefully it will look as nice in coming years. The only one up as yet is 'Sindpers', just at ground level, although a friend here in Canberra has hers already up a few inches tall. Different conditions in different gardens make such a difference.
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Flowering today.
Clematis napaulensis, which I just love as it flowers through winter and the honeyeaters love it and guard it jealously. These remind me of little green church bells.
I've posted these two Narcissus in the Narcissus topic as well.
Narcissus 'Taffetta' - my clump in the crocus garden. Yes, a snail has hit one of the flowers. Still putting on a lovely show, and the bee is obviously enjoying itself.
Narcissus viridiflorus - just the one flowering for me, but such a tiny little cutie.
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Paul
never heard about Clematis napaulensis . What a eyecathcer. Is it a climbing or a herbaceous Clematis ?
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Uli,
It is a climber, but unlike most of the others is it deciduous in summer, not winter. First year of growing it I thought it had died, but it came back in autumn and straight into flower. Good for nectar feeding birds as they regularly patrol past the flowers for a feed (our resident wattlebirds come through every half to an hour). On occasions you can pic up a faint daphne-like perfume, but conditions need to be just right for that. If you stick your nose in you can't get anything, but you sometimes get that delicious waft of daphne, knowing that there aren't any around in flower at the moment. I wouldn't be without it here. Seeds prolifically, but not many seedlings survive past an inch tall in my climate. Do get a few which I tend to share around, but can always at a certain time of year find heaps of seedlings that have germinated. I can harvest some seed for you if you'd like, if you remind me about September or October, which is about when I think they start maturing?
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The jolly thing won't flower for me. I've been told to have its roots in the shade and the top in sun. I have but it still doesn't, after about 10 years. Should pull it out.
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Paul your napaulensis reminded me of C. cirrhosa balaeric (something like that) which flowers every winter here and I see I have a baby coming up in the nursery.
Iris planifolia starts early and keeps on - I posted the length of flowering in a thread last year.
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Lesley,
Bummer. Try it in a bit more sun perhaps? It obviously isn't happy with something where it is. Perhaps try serpentine layers in a bit of it to get you a second plant to try?
Pat,
I can send you a plant at some point if you'd like? I have a few of them about the place that I really should remove, but I keep them there until someone wants one and then I dig it up. Of course I'd have to find one small enough to actually send to you. :o The leaves are quite different to cirrhosa (I have the straight species in flower next to the napaulensis, and the balearica elsewhere in the garden) and the cirrhosa don't have the summer deciduation (is that a word? Deciduousness sounds so stilted). I wouldn't be without it now. I did get a small planifolia from Marcus this year, but don't know whether it will flower or not. Your clump is just so spectacular. :o
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These three pics are for Helen in Canada. She knows why. :)
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They are Clematis orientalis LS 13342 (as I have it but now correctly Cl tibetana sp. vernayi LS 13342).
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Beautiful, Lesley. Flowering now? Looks so much like the summer flowering ones like tangutica (I lost mine a couple of years ago, haven't seen it for sale in at least 10 years) and the like. Yours is not a species I have grown before.
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The shape is more globular in the bud than tangutica and the texture thicker. It is one of very few plants ever, to have retained its collection number through many years, in order to identify the correct plant (collected by Ludlow and Sherriff in 1947). It flowers from about January on, most in March April but there are still some flowers on it. Masses of what looks like fertile seeds but I've never had one germinate either from what I've sown, or as a self-sown. It's also tricky to grow from cuttings for some reason. Only managed half a dozen in 28 years! I bought it at Levens Hall in Cumbria (English Lake District), 1981.
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Hmmmm... so not likely to be available here then. I love the flowers. Reminiscent of 'Golden Tiara' which has been available the last few years in Aus. I'd hazard it is part of the same complex or something like that. Thanks for the extra info.
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They are Clematis orientalis LS 13342 (as I have it but now correctly Cl tibetana sp. vernayi LS 13342).
Well, Lesley, it's allowed into Australia as either of those names (if you leave off the ssp.)! - next time you get viable looking seed let us know. ;D
Pat,
I'm also impressed at how early your iris are blooming. I have a few seedlings of I. planifolia and they are certainly ahead of the other junos into growth (but no flowers for awhile yet)
Paul,
admit it - the real reason you love that clematis is its second syllable! ;D ;D ;D
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
Maybe I'm just slow on the uptake today..... but you're going to have to explain that one? ???
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Yes please Paul to a seedling C. nePAULenis sometime.
Lesley I do like your Clematis too - really stunning and similar in form to the species being mentioned.
Fermi I have not checked my photos/posts from last year to see when Iris planifolia started flowering and when it finally finished but I know it seemed to keep going for ages.
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Do any of you Ozzies grow Petit Monet - the iris? Would love to buy one.
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Ah, THAT is what Fermi was meaning. I thought he was talking about Lesley's Clematis (hence my confusion).... forgot about my posting a pic of one. ::)
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Uli,
I can harvest some seed for you if you'd like, if you remind me about September or October, which is about when I think they start maturing?
Paul,
thank you for this offer. But I googeled, and in my area it is better to cultivate in a winter garden. :'( :'( :'( No winter garden available at present, and I think not in the next five to six years. I'm happy that I have the chance to use a unheated glasshouse in winter for my plants.
One of the benefits on this forum is to see a lot of fine plants, you never be able to cultivate. And the main reason I recognized more and more is we all have not the space to grow them all.
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Ah, THAT is what Fermi was meaning. I thought he was talking about Lesley's Clematis
Well, of course I could've been referring to your love of tree-shepherds or gambling if I'd been referring to Lesley's! ;D
Pat,
what sort of iris is "Petit Monet"? I can't say that I've heard of it.
cheers
fermi
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Uli,
If you change your mind or situation at any time, let me know. The plants take -8'C here without any problems at all, but I can't vouch for any colder than that as I don't know from experience.
Fermi,
A quick google and came up with the following (amongst other links)...
http://www.dvis-ais.org/gallery/Miniature-Tall-Bearded/PETIT_MONET_MTB_Steele_1990_DSC02403
Very nice miniature tall bearded iris. 8)
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Thanks Paul for providing the link. I do like the miniature tall bearded group - usually dainty. I received a sale catalogue from Impressive Irises but when I ordered Colleen said they had just sold out of Petit Monet. Blow - it looked nicer on her website. I will check with another grower here in SA to see if it is available. No it isn't.
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Pat,
I had immediately thought of Colleen when you asked about it, as she has some older stuff in the catalogue as well as brand new imports. I never get around to ordering from her, despite wanting to every year. I've been the master of procrastination the last few years. ::)
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I don't know 'Petit Monet' at all but it is very pretty in the link and has that misty "impressionist" look so is very well named.
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I don't know 'Petit Monet' at all but it is very pretty in the link and has that misty "impressionist" look so is very well named.
I had immediately thought of Colleen when you asked about it, as she has some older stuff in the catalogue as well as brand new imports. I never get around to ordering from her, despite wanting to every year. I've been the master of procrastination the last few years. ::)
Apart from procrastinating, Paul, usually my problem is "petit money"! However, you'll have to pass on details of Colleen's catalogue, please!
Here the winter flowers are starting, especially the native plants:
Grevillea (?)lanigera
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And the lovely Correa pulchella...
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..err, excuse me, Miss Soo-Tee, can you get out of the way?
That's better,
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cheers
fermi
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www.impressiveirises.com.au
is the link Fermi - then look at the sale lines. I know that buying seed is so much cheaper and exciting but sometimes it is good to buy named cultivars if they are not too big and blowsy - especially when on sale.
Lovely black cat sitting on the rock.
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Thanks for providing the link for Fermi, Pat. 8)
Some pics taken today.....
The first "spring" blossom in my garden.... Prunus mume pendula. So windy I could barely get the scent of it, but got enough of a whiff to remind me. Looking foward to more flowers opening in the next week or so and then that wonderful perfume through the whole area. ;D
The other pic is another of my "Autumn colour strain" Narcissus tazetta seedlings. I have about 5 varieties out at the moment, but haven't had the light right to get them all in comparative pics. Got this one just before the shadow of the car covered it. This one is quite a bit smaller than the one I posted a few weeks ago, and much more delicate. I love the colour of it, such a good clean white and nice lemon yellow.
I'm posting a few pics in a moment in the Wildlife topic, plus a couple in the Galanthus area to try to sort out whether something actually IS what it was named. ???
Enjoy.
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Lovely light and so pretty Paul, thanks for posting :)
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I just love Miss Soo-Tee! She's good enough to hug on a cold winter's morning.
One of my favorite shrubs of all is flowering in the garden in several colour forms at the moment - Jammy Mouth or Rutya fruticosa. It is much loved by humans and sunbirds alike for its copious sweet nectar and comical flowers.
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Jammy Mouth Finger Puppets - perfect for kids of all ages ;D (could make a good song ::))
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Fascinating, Rogan. I can think of a few honeyeaters around here that would rather like them too I would imagine. Looks like they haven't come to Australia as they aren't on our quarantine list. I'm always on the lookout for good honeyeater plants, particularly if they're flowering at this time of year. Might not like our frost of course. ;D Rather interesting "Jammy Mouth" the the flowers. What sort of size of the flowers and habit of the plant?
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Paul, the flower is very similar in size and function to Tecomaria - the Cape Honeysuckle, which I'm sure you do know. Rutya is a member of the Acanthacea family rather than the Bignoniaceae.
Rutya forms a small rounded shrub up to 2m or so high with attractive light green leaves which 'yellow' during the winter months. It is wonderful as it flowers now in the depths of winter.
I'm sure your Honeyeaters would love it just as much as our sunbirds love Anigozanthus spp. - I have one large patch of an A. flavidus cultivar (I think?) which drives our sunbirds mad when it's in flower!
I am very surprised that Rutya does not appear on your quarantine lists as it is very common and popular in these parts.
I've added two terrible 'cellphone' photos (my camera is on the blink!) below, one of two shrubs growing together and the other with greater detail of the leaves and flowers.
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What a funny flower Rogan, and super to have it flowering in winter. I've seen littl :)e kids with jam around the mouth looking just like that.
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Rogan Rutya does not come under another name does it that might be on our ICON list?
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...of course, if I would spell it correctly - Ruttya fruticosa with a doulble 't' - sorry! Maybe you'll find it now... Nothing like creating mystery where there is none! :-[
Ruttya is in the Acanthaceae family - related to such things as Hypoestes, Justicia, Thunbergia, etc.
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Yeah!! With a second t is IS on our bio index. I'd already found the 1 t version wasn't. Seeds to the exchanges Rogan?
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Rogan,
Yes, that makes all the difference. Now it is permitted on the ICON database, so it is fine to come into Aus.
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In reply to Paul's query: no, I don't think it will be very frost hardy - even our light frosts burn its tips a little bit, so I think minus 5 or 6 will probably send it on its way... However, I will endeavor to set seed, so you can give it a try.
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In reply to Paul's query: no, I don't think it will be very frost hardy - even our light frosts burn its tips a little bit, so I think minus 5 or 6 will probably send it on its way... However, I will endeavor to set seed, so you can give it a try.
It would do okay in Melbourne but would need protection up here.
White fever is in full swing here in the Southern Hemisphere! But let's start with a Leuco-jock: Acis tingitana,
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The first galanthus elwesii is finally open; this is the one known as "Green Outer tips" which Marcus thinks is probably "Comet"; sorry for the poor pic - a bit rushed this morning!
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This DBI has been around awhile but I don't have a name for it; usuallythe winter flowers get frosted off but this lot just made it into flower during a frost free week!
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Another correa making a splash is "Firebird"
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cheers
fermi
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I am aware that there are comments referring to June in the last few posts here from July.... but I would remind you that a July thread is open......... ::)
edit: Ah, I see that Fermi has already discovered this!! Thanks fermi! :-*
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Good to see that Maggi isn't quite as omnipotent as she seems. ;D ;D ;D ;D
:P :-*
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Nah, Paul, not omnipotent, I am pretty much omniverous, though! ;D
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great stuff!
correa really is very pulchella! i also have issues with cats who think they are much more interesting than plants...lol
'jammy mouth' very funny--unusually good common name :)
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Stephen,
That is one of the nicest double clematis, but I haven't been able to get it here either.
Yet another white crocus! C. cancellatus ssp mazzariacus is now open - at least it was on Friday when I got this pic.
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And one of the nerines which I think maybe a species but was "rediscovered" in the garden without a label; does anyone know it? I have a feeling it might be N. crispa but that could be fanciful thinking on my part. ::)
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The salmon form of Oxalis hirta is lovely and a bit different to the typical one.
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cheers
fermi
I like this O' hirta salmon form
This is the style I have not seen :-*