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Title: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: John Mitchell on April 29, 2009, 01:00:40 PM

Here are a few of our Oncocyclus Iris we grow at RBGE. Iris meda was collected in Iran in 2005 and shows how much colour variation there is in the wild. I.camillae is from the Transcaucasia and agian is very variable in flower colour in the wild. As we flower more species i will post them on the forum.

Cheers,
John

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE
Post by: xthomasx on April 29, 2009, 04:25:08 PM

Hi,

Great photos! Do you remember where the Iris camillae is from? I still look for reliable habitat data, just in case I go back there for a trip some day...

Thomas.

Quote from: John Mitchell on April 29, 2009, 01:00:40 PM

Here are a few of our Oncocyclus Iris we grow at RBGE. Iris meda was collected in Iran in 2005 and shows how much colour variation there is in the wild. I.camillae is from the Transcaucasia and agian is very variable in flower colour in the wild. As we flower more species i will post them on the forum.

Cheers,
John

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE
Post by: Hans A. on April 29, 2009, 10:19:45 PM

First of all: Welcome John and Thomas! :D

John, many thanks for this pictures of this wonderful plants - especially Iris meda is said to be very delicate - the form you show is the darkest I have ever seen - I am very curious to see more of your Oncos - do I remember right you also grow the famous Iris paradoxa f. mirabilis?

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE
Post by: arillady on April 29, 2009, 11:20:07 PM

Thank you John for showing us these oncos. Iris camillae is so much lighter coloured than the clone which I grow. I am very sad to say that I think I have lost the majority of the clone over summer. It was looking so good before that.
I look forward to more postings. Do you try for seed from any of the RBGE oncos?
Pat

Title: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE- Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: John Mitchell on April 30, 2009, 07:19:06 AM

Pat we do get seed of some of the oncos we had good seed of I actuiloba ssp longitepala which when it flowers I will post the others we  got a little later. Hans again when hopefully I paradoxa forma amabilis flowers i shall post as well.
John

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 30, 2009, 10:27:38 AM

John,
Great that you're opening a window to the RBGE here !
We didn't have that yet.  Another gap filled !  :D :D

Look forward to seeing (lots) more !

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: John Mitchell on April 30, 2009, 12:15:52 PM

we are here to please !!

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE
Post by: Paul T on April 30, 2009, 12:30:05 PM

I'm sorry to be so dumb, but what does RGBE stand for?  I am assuming that it is Royal Botanic Gardens, but what does the E stand for?  Obviously everyone else knows who you are and therefore where you are located, but I don't even know what country you're in?  The E could stand for Edinburgh, or Ecuador, or it could be for a country or city somewhere else that starts with E?

Again, sorry to not recognise your name and immediately know.  :-[

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh
Post by: Maggi Young on April 30, 2009, 01:32:59 PM

Sorry, Paul, I should have added the full name earlier..... yes, RBGE does refer to the Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh - John Mitchell is with the Alpine Department ..... I will leave it to him to tell you his full title  etc!


RBGE website: http://www.rbge.org.uk/

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 30, 2009, 02:09:44 PM

Quote from: Paul T on April 30, 2009, 12:30:05 PM

I'm sorry to be so dumb, but what does RGBE stand for?  I am assuming that it is Royal Botanic Gardens, but what does the E stand for?  Obviously everyone else knows who you are and therefore where you are located, but I don't even know what country you're in?  The E could stand for Edinburgh, or Ecuador, or it could be for a country or city somewhere else that starts with E?

Again, sorry to not recognise your name and immediately know.  :-[

I like the idea of the RBG in Ecuador Paul !!  ;D ;D

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: John Mitchell on April 30, 2009, 02:42:11 PM

Hi paul sorry for that, yes i am the alpine supervisor at the Royal Botanic Garden Edinburgh for my sins.

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: Paul T on May 01, 2009, 03:02:40 AM

Thanks for the clarification.  Again, apologies for not having known.  The Edinburgh was just a guess because it wasn't mentioned (and I figured therefore it was supposed to be fairly obvious to most here), but I wasn't sure.  Thanks again.

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: Rafa on May 02, 2009, 12:32:25 PM

Hello John and Thomas, I'm also glad to see you here.

John, the pictures you posted are superb but is it possible more resolution, I miss bigger size maybe 800 x 600? this is a good size for posting.
Iris acutiloba subsp. longipetala is superb plant, glad to know you could increase by seeds. I hope it will be possible the same with Iris paradoxa f. mirabilis, I grew it once by seeds that Jim Archibald gave me but I think I lost 7 from 8 due bird/slugs attacks  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :-\

All the best,

Rafa.

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: John Mitchell on May 02, 2009, 01:27:30 PM

Hi Rafa Yes sorry about the image size i have been told by Ian Young to go bigger and the next lot will.

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: Rafa on May 02, 2009, 09:46:46 PM

Thank you John,

I take the oportunity to ask you if I could donate a part of my 2009 wild collected seeds to RBGE, trough you.
I will send you a private message.

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: BULBISSIME on May 03, 2009, 01:00:33 AM

Thank's again John for your superb pictures of Oncos !!!
Iris camilliae is stunning  :o

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: John Mitchell on May 08, 2009, 07:49:53 AM

Here are the last remaining Onco flowering at RBGE. It is quite interesting to see the two clones of Paradoxa forma mirabilis one has a dark orange fall and the other is brown.The iberica ssp lycotis again has good marking but tends to grow a bit bigger in cultivation than in the wild.

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on May 08, 2009, 08:27:05 AM

Wonderful stuff John !
Thanks again for showing us !

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: BULBISSIME on May 08, 2009, 08:37:14 AM

The mirabilis is really stunning !!!
A pity that it was not available  :'(

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: Hans A. on May 08, 2009, 08:48:11 AM

Hello John,
thanks for showing this pics - Iris paradoxa f. mirabilis is a real stunner! The two different colourforms are very interesting - do you know if they were collected in the same population?
Great you show Iris iberica ssp. lycotis growing in nature!

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: Paul T on May 08, 2009, 08:49:33 AM

All beautiful, John.  Great stuff.  8)

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: John Mitchell on May 08, 2009, 09:18:42 AM

Thanks for your comments Paul and Fred. Hans the plants were collected blind they were growing with I meda and we thought that's what we we collecting, so it was a great surprise to find that we had I meda and these two forms from the same area.

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: arillady on May 09, 2009, 11:03:43 AM

Wow thanks John for showing us these lovely oncos. What a fantastic result from your collecton.

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: John Mitchell on May 09, 2009, 11:37:14 AM

Thanks pat i will try and post other if they come into flower !!!

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: Paul T on May 09, 2009, 12:19:36 PM

John,

What a bonus.  Got what you want AND others.  Great stuff. 8)

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: Hans A. on May 13, 2009, 12:24:45 PM

Quote from: John Mitchell on May 08, 2009, 09:18:42 AM

Thanks for your comments Paul and Fred. Hans the plants were collected blind they were growing with I meda and we thought that's what we we collecting, so it was a great surprise to find that we had I meda and these two forms from the same area.

 :o - this is a surprise! did you find intermedian forms between both species?

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: John Mitchell on May 13, 2009, 01:34:44 PM

Hans we didn't if i remember correctly they was a large patch of I meda growing at the edge of the field and we thought that this area would be all I meda there were no other species in flower that we could see at that time.

Title: Re: A few Oncocyclus at RBGE - Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh
Post by: Hans A. on May 13, 2009, 07:44:37 PM

Thanks John - this patch must have been a great sight!