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Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 09, 2009, 02:38:23 PM
Here's C. kesselringii in it's natural form and white form
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 09, 2009, 02:40:49 PM
awesome pix Mark !!!  :o :o
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 09, 2009, 02:43:16 PM
Camera and sunny day! The blue sky is a perfect backdrop
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Gunilla on January 09, 2009, 02:57:45 PM
Marvellous photos, Mark.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Kenneth K on January 09, 2009, 03:29:42 PM
The first flowers to show color in my bulb bed is as always the white Colchicum szovitsii. Today it looked like this.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on January 09, 2009, 03:50:37 PM
very nice indeed Mark both the plants and the photographs.its not one I have grown and I definitely prefer the normal form.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 09, 2009, 03:56:37 PM
Next time I have spares Tony I'll try and remember you.

Kenneth you Colchicum szovitsii are well ahead of mine. I must go and put out some slug pellets because they ate mine last year.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: hadacekf on January 09, 2009, 06:13:04 PM
Mark,

Great,  those C. kesselringii.  Beautiful. I never saw a white form!
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: ArneM on January 10, 2009, 10:23:23 AM
Kenneth, nice Colchicum szovitsii. Could you please tell me how you grow them. I got one last year but I'm not sure if it was put into the right conditions.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Kenneth K on January 10, 2009, 03:05:19 PM
It is planted in a well drained, raised bed in full sun. In the bottom of the bed is a layer of gravel, over it a layer of rich compost and at the top 5- 10 cm of pure sand. The bulb is planted in sand so that the roots can reach down into the compost.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: ArneM on January 10, 2009, 08:06:11 PM
Thanks, Kenneth.  :)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: I.S. on January 10, 2009, 11:11:38 PM
Kenneth,
Your growing way seems very nice. Do you apply this for all bulbs or only for colchicum? or only for C. szovitsii?
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: dominique on January 11, 2009, 09:56:17 AM
Is this Colchicum really munzurae ? (Paul Christian origin)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Kenneth K on January 11, 2009, 03:27:09 PM
I use that way to grow most of the summer resting bulbs. It is a must in our rainy climate. (But it does not always help anyway)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 13, 2009, 01:55:03 PM
I can't find the old Colchicum thread so I am opening a new one.

The first spring colchicum here.

Colchicum hungaricum albiflorum.

Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on January 13, 2009, 03:16:18 PM
I can't find the old Colchicum thread so I am opening a new one.

The first spring colchicum here.

Colchicum hungaricum albiflorum.


I think it is a bit too soon for talk of Spring, Michael (  :o 8)) ....so I have merged your page with the existing Colchicum thread and re-named it!
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on January 18, 2009, 12:21:55 PM
Well, some more pic !!
From Colchicum pusillum, Crete.
(http://i34.servimg.com/u/f34/11/84/35/03/30090810.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=289&u=11843503)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Thomas Huber on January 19, 2009, 10:25:10 AM
Hi Fred!
Very late for Colchicum pusillum - is it sooo late each year?
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 19, 2009, 11:18:49 AM
Very narrow foliage for pusillum.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on January 19, 2009, 12:49:36 PM
Now then, Friends, here is a Colchicum puzzle for you..... A forumist in the Southern hemisphere was given bulbs from a friend to grow and identify but is having trouble doing so..... an experience I can certainly sympathise with regarding Colchicum!!
Some progress has been made in that some years ago our friend found that the original collector of these bulbs was Henning Chrisstiansen, who remembered sending, "DownUnder" some bulbs collected Puerto del Pico Western Spain on April 5th 1971.  Trouble is how to indentify them!
" I have a tiny corm about half  an inch long ( 13mm ) that has flowered and set seed which I am now growing. The next one is up in size but the tiny flowers pale pink--- I can't tell the difference. There wasa coll. no. HC1051 --Henning thought the first one was lusitanicum but I cannot see any faint chequering..  According to my information lusitanicum  is 4-6cm long Anther deep yellow style short and pale. Leaves appear in winter. But all my flowers are very small and short.
 The other numbers are ABS4362  WC 2080  -- can anyone help with an idea of who these collectors ABS and WC were/are?  And has anyone ID  for these collection numbers ? "

Here's hoping some one on the Forum can help!

Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on January 19, 2009, 05:16:06 PM
Thoams,
It's not in flower now !! ;D
Picture was taken on october!
Anthony,
I think C. pusillum has narrow leaves no ?
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Thomas Huber on January 19, 2009, 07:33:01 PM
Maggi, ABS stands for Archibald, Blanchard and Salmon.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 19, 2009, 11:12:36 PM
Thoams,
It's not in flower now !! ;D
Picture was taken on october!
Anthony,
I think C. pusillum has narrow leaves no ?
See top of this page Fred.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 22, 2009, 06:58:28 PM
My Colchicum hirsutum were flatten by heavy rain over night.

One bulb of C. hungaricum is producing many flowers
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 22, 2009, 06:59:36 PM
No matter how hard I try, I can't get it to rain in my greenhouse. ::)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 22, 2009, 07:08:46 PM
I can,it drips in everywhere in spite of my best efforts to stop it.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 22, 2009, 07:45:08 PM
They were outside.

Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 22, 2009, 09:11:41 PM
Very floriferous C. hungaricum Mark !!
Good value !
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 22, 2009, 09:26:06 PM
I just realised I posted these in the wrong place. It's now 2009. doh!
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 22, 2009, 10:35:36 PM
No you didn't Mark. You're brave growing these outside.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 22, 2009, 10:56:04 PM
That's where all my Colchicums grow or are kept in pots. Those in pots come in while in flower and then go out again.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 23, 2009, 04:38:17 PM
Here are a few more forced to open today
luteum x kessellringii - I cross pollinated both parents in my own collection last year but no seed was set.
luteum 'Vahsh'
luetum 'Minion' - brownish tube
'Vahsh' and 'Minion' at the back
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 23, 2009, 07:32:41 PM
Ah, a Colchicum luteum that opens its petals. Do you grow these in pots outside too Mark?
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 23, 2009, 07:52:54 PM
Yes. Do yours not open? These were open today when I got home from work but I brought them in to open them further. They are on my display table facing south.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 23, 2009, 08:13:37 PM
I have never seen luteum with its petals open. The one I had was so pitiful I killed it with neglect. :(
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on January 23, 2009, 08:22:09 PM
Quote
These were open today when I got home from work but I brought them in to open them further. They are on my display table facing south.

I think it's a SUN thing.... we just don't get enough! Our glasshouses are in the wrong place at this time of year  :P ::)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 23, 2009, 09:05:51 PM
Awesome pix Mark !!
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 23, 2009, 09:13:45 PM
Thanks Luc, but it has to be the camera and the weather
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on January 24, 2009, 01:47:03 PM
A colchicum flowering for the first time with me. It is small and delicate in flower.It is from Nemrut Dag in the SE of Turkey and I have been unable to decide which species it is. Jim in Delaware has sent me the latest keys but I have not yet recorded the corm tunics and so will have to investigate when repotting.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on January 24, 2009, 03:44:59 PM
Here is my C. luteum, increasing each year.

(http://i74.servimg.com/u/f74/11/84/35/03/710.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=371&u=11843503)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 24, 2009, 06:35:32 PM
Must get some more. ::)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: arillady on January 25, 2009, 03:48:11 AM
What lovely bright happy blooms - I must increase my meagre collection with these beauties.
Pat T
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Oron Peri on January 25, 2009, 07:45:10 AM
Fred that is a beautiful one!!!
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 25, 2009, 09:55:59 PM
Fred is your C. luteum in the open garden? Maybe I'll plant mine out. Brilliant photo of Crocus baytopiorum in the Crocus thread.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on January 26, 2009, 06:47:15 AM
Yes Mark,
It's in the open garden since many years, and it seems to be very happy.
I also have some in pot, in the frame, growing well.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Hans A. on January 26, 2009, 07:55:46 AM
Fred -  a beautiful picture of your Colchicum luteum - is it in flower in the open now? It is very early, isn`t it?
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on January 26, 2009, 08:06:37 AM
Yes hans,
it's in flower now, last year 20/01, and in 2007 : 15/01 !
Winter was cold but it's warmer now and a lot of bulbs are growing quickly, outside and in the frame.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Hans A. on January 26, 2009, 08:15:19 AM
Thanks Fred - so could be a wonderful/strange sight together with Sternbergia candida ::) Should try to grow this species here...
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: dominique on January 26, 2009, 12:47:35 PM
Thank you Mark Tony and Fred for the pics. Mine luteum are always under ground in the garden;
Tony, is your Colchicum perhaps szovitzii  ( page 8 of this thread, reply 112)?
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Tony Willis on January 26, 2009, 01:27:14 PM
Dominique

no it is not C.szovitsii, I tried the key in Flora of Turkey and it did not fit. In any case its growing conditions were completly wrong.i found it on a dry hillside and C. szovitsii grows almost sumberged in water at flowering time.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: dominique on January 26, 2009, 01:46:42 PM
Hans
I grow Sternbergia candida outdoors in the garden and it has not frozen (-11). Leaves have to day 3cm over the ground
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on January 26, 2009, 07:12:57 PM
Thank you Mark Tony and Fred for the pics. Mine luteum are always under ground in the garden;
Tony, is your Colchicum perhaps szovitzii  ( page 8 of this thread, reply 112)?

Mine is always underground too Dom-in a pot, I can never get it to flower.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 26, 2009, 07:29:14 PM
Here is my Colchicum hungaricum albiflorum, I posted this  last week with only one flower showing.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on January 26, 2009, 07:50:49 PM
Lovely Michael, and a cracking picture as well.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 26, 2009, 09:00:48 PM
I think everyone in to bulbs should grow C. hungaricum. I used to have the pink one but since planting it out there has been no sign of it.

I have a Colchicum roaming/running across one of my troughs. I only noticed it in flower when the sun was about to set. Does anyone know it? I can spare some in the summer if you remind me
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Michael J Campbell on January 26, 2009, 09:18:45 PM
Nice little Colchicum Mark.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 26, 2009, 09:19:57 PM
Michael make a note in your diary to remind me
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 26, 2009, 09:40:12 PM
Anthony, this is from the heat of the sun today. Do you have a sunny area of your garden? I bought an aluminium stage from B&Q, very cheap, and have it straddled over a raised bed when choice plants can see the sun.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 28, 2009, 07:21:12 PM
Colchicum szovitsii has finally decided to grow and open
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on January 28, 2009, 07:44:36 PM
A particularly nice white flower with green bits you have there, Mark! ;)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 28, 2009, 08:39:34 PM
Very nice Mark ! Any idea how tall the leaves grow ??
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 28, 2009, 09:02:40 PM
Luc, I dont pay attention to Colchicum leaves. If you want them we have to be willing to put up with the leaves. I can nswer you query in the summer if you can wait.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: annew on January 28, 2009, 11:08:03 PM
I realise these poor things look ratty, but you have to give them points for stamina. This clump of C. autumnale alboplena (I think) has been in flower continuously since September.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 28, 2009, 11:18:10 PM
Very nice Mark ! Any idea how tall the leaves grow ??

They would be smallish - rather like cupanii I think?
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on January 28, 2009, 11:28:55 PM
I realise these poor things look ratty, but you have to give them points for stamina. This clump of C. autumnale alboplena (I think) has been in flower continuously since September.
I'd give them points for more than stamina, Anne, you really have to salute a plant which will give that kind of service at this time of year! And probably only able to do that because it is double ... no sex, no death  :-\ :-X
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 29, 2009, 10:19:07 AM
Very nice Mark ! Any idea how tall the leaves grow ??

They would be smallish - rather like cupanii I think?


Thanks Anthony - it is now on my wants list...  ;)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on January 29, 2009, 10:20:37 AM
Anthony, the leaves would be larger. The flower is about the same size as Tulipa humilis
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 29, 2009, 11:18:38 PM
But not like the big weeds that take over a flower bed. I bought Colchicum graecum from PC because he said it would grow nicely with Leucojum autumnale. Aye right! ::) My Yucca has smaller leaves. :o
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: dominique on February 01, 2009, 06:15:46 PM
the last babies !!!

Colchicum kesselringii
 Colchicum munzurae
 Colchicum szovitzii Tivi
 Colchicum szovitzii Tivi
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Rafa on February 01, 2009, 07:32:59 PM
VERY beautiful plants Dom, specially Colchicum kesselringii :o
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on February 02, 2009, 02:08:34 PM
Nice plants Dominique ! as usual !
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on February 04, 2009, 07:25:47 PM
This photo shows the lovely green tube of Colchicum szovitsii.

One of my very dark C. kessellringiis. I really need to get a tiny paint brush to cross this with C. luteum.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Boyed on February 06, 2009, 01:31:13 PM
Nice colchicums, Dominique.
As I mostly like goblet shapes with rounded petals, colchicum szovitsii is more appealing to me. Here bisides common pink and less common white forms of it, there are sometimes bi-coloured (white with pink edges) and dark pink forms with dark tubes (as with colchicum speciosum Atrorubens) accur in nature. Though I never seen them offered in trade.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on February 14, 2009, 03:42:55 PM
Here are my first Colchicum kesselringii :
'MY CHOICIE'

(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/eos5dm27.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=418&u=11843503)

And a white form : 'SNOW OF HIGHLAND' which I found quite different in shape from the type

(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/eos5dm28.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=419&u=11843503)

They don"t want to open widely....it's a bit cloudy here today  ;)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on February 14, 2009, 09:44:05 PM
Those are very well grown.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: arillady on February 15, 2009, 11:50:15 PM
Fred what lovely photos.
Pat
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Gerdk on February 16, 2009, 11:13:37 AM
Here is Colchicum triphyllum , waiting for some warmth to open

Gerd
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on February 16, 2009, 11:55:52 AM
splendid group Gerd !
Isuppose you grow theml in a glasshouse or bulb frame ??
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 16, 2009, 04:12:01 PM
What a lovely group of delightful plants. 8)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Gerdk on February 16, 2009, 04:40:54 PM
splendid group Gerd !
Isuppose you grow theml in a glasshouse or bulb frame ??

Yes, they are in a glasshouse. Same conditions as for south Iberian/Moroccan daffodils - totally dry in summer.

Gerd
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 16, 2009, 06:19:51 PM
Not one I've tried, but it is lovely pics like this that really bring them to ones attention.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on February 18, 2009, 03:52:02 PM
My first white form of Colchicum hungaricum is just flowering now.
Pretty flower with nice white border on the leaves  :)

(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/eos5dm32.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=424&u=11843503)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: ashley on February 18, 2009, 04:08:45 PM
Wonderful plant and pic Fred, as usual :o
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 18, 2009, 04:21:50 PM
I second Ashley here Fred !  Gorgeous pic and plant !
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on February 19, 2009, 04:00:19 PM
Here is now the pink form, named 'VELEBIT STAR', of Colchicum hungaricum.

(http://i64.servimg.com/u/f64/11/84/35/03/colchi10.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=427&u=11843503)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 19, 2009, 07:26:52 PM
Gee wizz Fred, those pics are almost 3D, especially the white form! 8) :o
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: ranunculus on February 19, 2009, 08:08:34 PM
May we enquire about your camera please, Fred?
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on February 19, 2009, 08:11:37 PM
May we enquire about your camera please, Fred?
I have it on good authority that while Fred's camera did a sneezing fit last month, it is now in the rudest of health... as can be amply  demonstrated by his photographs...... ;D ;D ;)

 Sorry, couldn't help myself !!!
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: ranunculus on February 19, 2009, 08:39:58 PM
What are you Leica, Maggi?   :D
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 19, 2009, 11:39:35 PM
Maggi's Nikon my jokes! ::)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on February 19, 2009, 11:58:52 PM
Cliff, I love plants and also photography.
I have a CANON 5DMKII with macro lenses or wide angles.
But you know, the secret of a picture is to take time, no more difficult  :)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: arillady on February 20, 2009, 01:42:38 AM
Fred I just did a google search. You are a serious photographer!!! :o Well the photos tell us that anyway.
The photos are superb.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: ranunculus on February 20, 2009, 08:26:16 AM
Many thanks for the information, Fred ... another silly question ... are you satisfied with this very expensive piece of kit ... anything you would change (apart from the price, of course)?
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 20, 2009, 09:37:13 AM
A friend of mine gets his 5D MkII this week. He reckons there are only 5 in the whole of Scotland! :o How does he know that? ::) Serious bit of kit and less than half the price of the 24.5mp Nikon D3x.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on February 20, 2009, 11:20:37 AM
Cliff, the body is really good, the main problem is now with lenses which are not good enough in my opinion !
The construction is a bit too light for me for travel but... what can I do ?
CANON 1DS or NIKON D3X are too expensive without increasing picture's quality   ???
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: dominique on February 22, 2009, 09:15:21 PM
Absolutely stunning plants and pics Fred. Thank you
Dom
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: ArneM on February 24, 2009, 01:52:18 PM
Colchicum szovitsii 'Tivi' started flowering here.  :D
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Diane Clement on February 25, 2009, 10:51:18 PM
A nice little potful of Colchicum hungaricum Valentinum
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Boyed on February 26, 2009, 05:43:09 AM
Fred,
Your photos are just stunning! What a quality!!! I get great pleasure out of looking at them. Indeed, good camera, 'shows it character'.

ArneM,
Your colchicum szovitsii 'Tivi' is pleasant. I am testing some native merenderas and colchiucums under cold glass and now some pink forms are in bloom. I am lazy to photograph, but always forget my camera, when go to my glass house. Will do it soon. The most exciting for me, is see ing colchicum szovitsii var, giganteum 'Alla's Giant' - a huge plant that we selected among ordinary plants in nature. I passionately wait when it will decide to increase vegetatively.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: ArneM on February 26, 2009, 02:10:23 PM
My 'Tivi' is growing outside. I hope this tiny plant will do well.

Boyed,
Please don't be so lazy, I am quite excited about your giant szovitsii and the other ones.  :D
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Boyed on February 27, 2009, 11:07:58 AM
My 'Tivi' is growing outside. I hope this tiny plant will do well.

Boyed,
Please don't be so lazy, I am quite excited about your giant szovitsii and the other ones.  :D

ArneM,
All bulbs of Armenian origin are very hardy and can even survive frosts -35C. So you can freely grow your colchicums outside. They are quite easy in the garden.

I will make some photographs of native colchicums to show in the forum. The giant form of colchicum szovitsii is not in bloom yet, but if you're interested I can show last year's pics until it blooms this season.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: ArneM on February 27, 2009, 07:33:55 PM
... but if you're interested I can show last year's pics until it blooms this season.

Yes, please post some pictures from last year.  :)
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Sinchets on March 01, 2009, 11:26:09 AM
Colchicum doerfleri in the bulbframe today.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on March 01, 2009, 02:02:46 PM
Never seen it before !
Thank's.
Look's great and fine foliage too.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: hadacekf on March 01, 2009, 05:50:11 PM
Colchicum hungaricum and C. doerfleri flower for some days in my meadow.
Title: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on March 01, 2009, 09:02:14 PM
I have hungarium outside in a trough. I should have added more bulbs when I was doing them.
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2009, 08:25:47 PM
I have spilt off the posts from January to this new thread.... and here is a photo from  our friend Viggo in Norway, showing a good form of Colchicum szovitsii  'Vardahovit' that he got from Janis a couple of years ago. It seems to be increasing well.....
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Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2009, 08:44:17 PM
Apologies for the fact that this page now seems to have been read by a very few people.... the view count stayed with the old page!
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on March 02, 2009, 08:49:25 PM
hats off to Maggi! ;D
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Boyed on March 03, 2009, 06:13:44 AM
Merenedera trigyna pink form blooming under cold glass.

(http://s39.radikal.ru/i085/0903/dd/df7e903daa82t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s39.radikal.ru/i085/0903/dd/df7e903daa82.jpg.html) (http://s54.radikal.ru/i143/0903/1f/9e5bee5b7a03t.jpg) (http://radikal.ru/F/s54.radikal.ru/i143/0903/1f/9e5bee5b7a03.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Boyed on March 03, 2009, 07:54:14 AM
Especially for ArneM, some photos of colchisum szovitsii

1. colchicum szovitsii in wild
2. colchicum szovitsii in wild
3. colchicum szovitsii dark form
4. colchicum szovitsii in my place
5. colchicum szovitsii in my place
6. very nice form of c. szovitsii with long tubes growing in St. peterburg Botanical garden
7. colchicum szovitsii (giant form) - very showy huge specimen equaling in sisez to autumn-blooming colchicum byzantinum. It seems to be polyploid, doesn't set seeds, has very big bulbs and produce from 2 to 3 beautiful flowers. the ordinary samples produce up to 20 blooms from very large bulbs.
8. colchicum szovitsii (giant form)

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Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Thomas Huber on March 03, 2009, 03:00:12 PM
This clump was seen in a great plantsman's garden last weekend, Colchicum kesselringii.
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 03, 2009, 03:01:30 PM
This clump was seen in a great plantsman's garden last weekend, Colchicum kesselringii.

OOH! Lovely plant!
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Hristo on March 03, 2009, 03:32:11 PM
Colchicum falcifolium in the bulb frame and a somewhat squashed kesselringii 'Prosperity' newly emerged from the snow.
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: mark smyth on March 03, 2009, 04:57:18 PM
In 2007 I seperated my Colchicum kessellringii bulbs in to seperate troughs. Maybe I'll bring them back together :-\

Colchicum mirzovae - I must buy more of this little beauty
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on March 03, 2009, 05:07:59 PM
I'm speechless  :o
What a lot of stuning plants and pics of Colchicum
Every day I discover new species : thank's to all of forumists  ;)
And special thank's to Boyed for wild pics !
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: ArneM on March 03, 2009, 06:15:41 PM
So many nice colchicums. Thanks Boyed! :D
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 04, 2009, 03:31:26 AM
Perhaps someone would be so kind as to give me a correct name for this little colchicum, bearing in mind that we are just starting autumn and this is the first. It was rescued with 30 brothers and sisters from a paddock a year ago, in flower and the patch where it came from is in full flower now. I'm assuming it is probably C. autumnale as where its parent patch is, was once an old farmhouse, long gone now but various plants are still in what was the garden. It is unlikely that anything more exotic than C. autumnale was growing here perhaps 100 or more years ago.

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Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Boyed on March 06, 2009, 12:01:05 PM
Merendera mirzoevae in my Ukrainian friend's garden
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Otto Fauser on March 07, 2009, 10:09:06 AM
This clump was seen in a great plantsman's garden last weekend, Colchicum kesselringii.

Thomas - this must be the clump in Erich Pasche 's garden ?
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Anthony Darby on March 07, 2009, 10:32:36 AM
Lovely pics guys. Thanks for sharing them. ;D I like the clumps of the varied Colchicum szovitsii etc. I like that little Colchicum mirzovae  too Mark. Do you grow that in a trough too? I'm beginning to be brave and put more outside. I think the secret must be very free draining gritty compost?
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Thomas Huber on March 07, 2009, 11:04:18 AM
[/Thomas - this must be the clump in Erich Pasche 's garden ?

You're right, Otto  :-*
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 11, 2009, 10:50:07 PM
(I've already posted this to the Southern Hemisphere Thread but thought I'd repeat it here)
Hi everyone, Otto has asked me to post some pics for him;
first some colchicums:
Colchicum "Violet Queen"
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Colchicum davisii from Greece
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And one he got as Colchicum liparochiadys
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he got it as seed from the Moscow Botanic Gardens in 1968 labelled Colchicum liparochiadys Woronow ex Czerniak but can't verify the name; can any aficionados please help?
cheers
fermi on behalf of Otto.
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 12, 2009, 04:01:36 AM
Would someone please confirm or deny Colchicum autumnale for mine, posted above please. I can't believe no one knows it! :)
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Kenneth K on March 16, 2009, 04:28:41 PM
Two Colchicum enjoying the sun of yesterday
1. Colchicum trigynum (or as some might say Merendera trigyna)
2. Colchicum hungaricum 'Velebit Star'
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 22, 2009, 08:20:14 PM
Perhaps someone would be so kind as to give me a correct name for this little colchicum, bearing in mind that we are just starting autumn and this is the first. It was rescued with 30 brothers and sisters from a paddock a year ago, in flower and the patch where it came from is in full flower now. I'm assuming it is probably C. autumnale as where its parent patch is, was once an old farmhouse, long gone now but various plants are still in what was the garden. It is unlikely that anything more exotic than C. autumnale was growing here perhaps 100 or more years ago.


Sorry, Lesley.... I had been looking at your pictures and I was  undecided...... now I'm jumping off the fence and saying that I think these are Colchicum byzantinum ..... "ye olde hybrid"  known for hundreds of years in the trade ....  the styles with the shepherd's crook purple  tips are the giveaway.
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 22, 2009, 10:28:14 PM
Really Maggi? Well that's quite exciting for me. I've not seen byzantinum before. I'll zip out and put a label on it. There are a dozen or so out now, quite pale pink as they emerge, with deeper tips, then opening to a nice pinky/purple. Unfortunately a certain large dog has taken to using the patch as a toilet. I've applied cayenne pepper.
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 06, 2009, 06:06:23 AM
Just posting some pics from Otto which I've already posted to the "April in the SH" thread,
"Now for some colchicums,
A C. speciosum with a large white centre,
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C. polyphyllum,
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C. lusitanicum,
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And lastly one he got as C. troodii (=C. decaisnei) JJA Seed 2002, col. HATAY, Turkey.
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But which Otto thinks is definately not C. decaisnei as it has very long stigmas and a pale line down the centre of each tepal - is it C. cilicicum? I'll also post this to the ID section.
cheers
fermi on behalf of Otto."
And from our Redesdale garden, here's the first flower up on Colchicum bivonae grown from AGS Seedex many years ago!
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cheers
fermi

Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: Otto Fauser on April 06, 2009, 12:39:40 PM
Sorry , Fermi -your bivonae {syn. bowlesianum ] is certainly not that species , it is
a larger species ,deeper in colour -tesselated with a white centre.
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: fermi de Sousa on April 08, 2009, 03:34:04 AM
Sorry , Fermi -your bivonae {syn. bowlesianum ] is certainly not that species , it is
a larger species ,deeper in colour -tesselated with a white centre.
Thanks, Otto, after posting the pic I read Marcus's description in his new seedlist and realised that it didn't fit the picture. Any suggestions as to what it might be? C. corsicum?
cheers
fermi
P.S. if anyone wants a copy of Marcus Harvey's seedlist (yes, he will post to overseas) please send me a PM.
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: I.S. on April 19, 2009, 04:37:46 PM
Here is the Fermi's first colchicum taken yesterday from Lake Abant
C. speciosum syn bornmüelleri  Abant
C. szovitsii almost in the water!

Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: BULBISSIME on July 11, 2009, 02:20:27 PM
Super !!

This is the never ending story  ;D
Fall is comming .... 8)
Title: Re: Colchicums Early 2009
Post by: bettyclark on January 14, 2011, 01:08:32 AM
Yes Maggie C.lusitanicum  HC 1051 is very faintly chequered.  Rosy pink 4to6cm anthers dp yellow, Style short and pale.    Leaves appear in winter.
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