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Title: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on March 02, 2009, 04:35:00 PM
These were intended for a trough which hasn't happened yet but they look pretty in pots as well. Santa brought me Malcolm McGregor's book 'Saxifrages: A Definitive Guide to the 2000Species, Hybrids and Cultivars which fired my enthusiasm and I had to try a few of the easier Porophyllum Hybrids. 'Your Success' and 'Love Me (both x poluanglica); 'Jenkinsae' (x irvingii); 'Gregor Mendel' (x apiculata) and 'Aretiastrum' (x boydii)

Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: mark smyth on March 02, 2009, 06:10:11 PM
My first Sax is flowering now outside in a crevice in a trough
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 02, 2009, 08:44:25 PM
Lovely things. Could do a major "Moan, Moan..." about availability in NZ at this time. Won't bore you though. HAve one  - or several David - for me please.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 03, 2009, 12:39:30 PM
Lesley, a kind chap...... a saxifrage grower of note, has contacted me to tell me of his sympathy for your sax-less situation..... he sends these pix, plus a reminder of the Saxifraga delights to be found in the pages of the Saxifrage Society website and Forum....  www.saxifraga.org is the main page and this link will take you directly to a forum page with super shots of well gown and beautifully presented plants.... http://www.saxifraga.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=107&PN=2   You will recognise many contributors there, I think :)

Here are some shots to ease your distress, Lesley,
with the compliments of David Hoare........
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plants ready for Harlow Show


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Saxs in David's alpine house
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Carlo on March 03, 2009, 12:43:14 PM
THAT'S just, oh, it's, oh....holy cow.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: maggiepie on March 03, 2009, 12:44:10 PM
Well that's certainly brightened up my day, what an amazing sight :o
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 03, 2009, 08:31:55 PM
Maggi and David H, thanks a million and many of them. But as to easing my distress.....I'm not sure. Knowing they are forbidden to me is raising my blood pressure to the nth degree.

Absolutely stunning, superb, happy and glorious. I can see my reflection in the monitor. It's turning green as I type.

What makes me especially angry - after 16 years - is that I imported approx 180 species and hybrids back in 1993, brought them all home with me from various sources in the UK and the Czech Republic, only to have MAF destroy the lot during the inspection process, through sheer bl...y incompetence. Never mind the cost, it was the loss of stock which was and remains, irreparable. Long story and my blood boils every time I think of it, which I'm doing now as a result of seeing these amazing collections.

Don't hesitate to post more pictures though, and I'll look at the given links. Many thanks for those. I'd better join the Sax Society (been meaning to for years) and have access to some seeds.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: ian mcenery on March 04, 2009, 12:26:02 AM
Lovely pics and well nurtured plants.

Here are a couple of mine in the garden now

Sax kathleen Pinsent
Sax Lowndesii x alpigena a minute little plant
Sax your song
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 04, 2009, 08:35:47 AM
Great to see some Saxes apearing here and very nice plants too !
That reminds me, I still have some to post in the Harlow AGS show thread - I hope I find the time to do so tonight !
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: maggiepie on March 04, 2009, 08:43:15 PM
Ian, your plants are beautiful, is that a giant bee or are the flowers really, REALLY tiny  ???
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: ian mcenery on March 05, 2009, 10:09:32 AM
No Helen it's a normal sized bee. The sax may be smaller as they are growing in tufa and will be lean and hungry
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Michael on March 05, 2009, 02:01:39 PM
Impressive!!

What is that plant next to the yellow flowered one with cordate leaves? A cyclamen?
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: SAXIFRAGE at LYMINGE on March 05, 2009, 05:17:42 PM
Hi Michael
I have a few other plants growing at this end of the alpine house. The yellow plant is Eranthis 'Guinea Gold' and you are right in front is
Cyclamen greacum Album it has a good leaf patern.
Just spent the day getting Saxifrage ready for Loughborough AGS Show on Saturday.
Best Wishes David
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on March 05, 2009, 07:20:00 PM
Welcme to the Forum David, you have an enviable set-up for your Saxes.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 05, 2009, 07:32:11 PM
Well, though there seem to be a fair amount of bad weather and snow around in Scotland, there is nothing on the news, so I assume that England is escaping this bad spell and that there will be no weather barriers to all enjoying a super day out to Loughborough .... have a good day, David, good luck, too!
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: johngennard on March 05, 2009, 07:46:11 PM
Great stuff David,glad I have nothing entered in the sax.classes.Good luck for Saturday.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 05, 2009, 08:00:28 PM
Are you off to Loughborough as well, John? Sock it to 'em! ;D
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 06, 2009, 08:19:35 AM
Hi David,
I was a silent admirer of your Saxes at Harlow on Saturday...   :o
How on earth do you get them to flower so profusely ??? Is there a secret ???  :-\
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: WimB on March 06, 2009, 11:16:07 AM
Some saxifrages that are flowering in my garden now:

1) Saxifraga kabschia 'Golem'
2) Saxifraga oppositifolia 'Le Bourg d'Oisans'
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: SAXIFRAGE at LYMINGE on March 06, 2009, 01:44:58 PM
Thank you all for your kind comments. Luc I'am sure it is all down to the weather, we did not have extream tempertures last summer
which helps, but the main factor is the lovely cold winter we have just been through. They always flower better after a good cold spell around December & January.
Just finished getting ready for tomorrow 10 Large pans & 6 Small Sax's +1 Primula & 1 Small cushion.
If you see a Toyota going up the M1 with its lights up in the sky Don't panic, pehaps I should warn air traffic control.
Will try and put some pictures up on Sunday.
Best of luck tomorrow John hope to see you.
David
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 06, 2009, 01:48:34 PM
Good hunting David !  ;D
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: gote on March 06, 2009, 05:36:30 PM
Fantastic saxifrages Wim.
Is this oppositifolia always so floriferous?
Göte
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: WimB on March 06, 2009, 06:07:03 PM
Thanks Göte.
I have this oppositifolia since two years and last year it was just as floriferous
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 06, 2009, 09:29:24 PM
Beautiful Saxes Wim - Where do you grow your oppositifolia ?  I can never keep it going for more than 2 or 3 years   :-\
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: WimB on March 07, 2009, 08:13:02 AM
Luc, that oppositifolia is placed in a trough in full sun (from morning until 4 PM) though I shade it a bit during the warmest months.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: gervandenbeuken on March 07, 2009, 03:29:22 PM
This is the correct name:
Saxifraga oppositifolia 'Le Bourg d'Oisans'
Actually it's an introduction of Kees Jan van Zwienen and brought into cultivation by myself.
In my opinion the most easy and free flowering oppositifolia, probably due to the very low location of 1200 meter in the Ecrins in France where it is found.



Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: WimB on March 07, 2009, 03:45:31 PM
Thanks for the correction Ger.
I think I bought it from you two years ago. It's really a stunner.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Michael on March 08, 2009, 12:17:08 PM
The yellow plant is Eranthis 'Guinea Gold' and you are right in front is Cyclamen greacum Album it has a good leaf patern.

Thanks David!

The pattern is very nice indeed. Looking forward to see the pictures when it flowers!
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: johngennard on March 08, 2009, 09:01:01 PM
Sorry Maggie,I haven't visited this thread since the show and hadn't seen your comment to sock it to 'em.I did try but was floored by a sucker punch from David with his saxifragas.Were you to see them in reality you too would be floored,they were awsome.Little did I know that David was planning to put them in the six pan or I might have stayed at home.He must have been laughing up his sleeve as he was travelling north up the M1.However,I don't mind coming second to such an outstanding exhibit and it was great to meet David .I will try harder.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 09, 2009, 11:02:03 AM
Well, John, I do think any show is fortunate to have exhibits such as those from yourself and David to grace the benches ....and good healthy competition is good for us all..... raises standards and delights the viewers.
 Quite how long many of us will be able to afford to drive around to the shows is in doubt, I suppose, I'm not sure how far one can travel in a day with a donkey cart full of show plants....so your efforts to support the shows are very much appreciated, win or lose!
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 09, 2009, 07:42:16 PM
Nothing as spectacular as these (awesome) monsters I saw on the show benches - but here are two Saxes flowering in the garden right now (much better than last year !) :


1) Saxifraga 'Joseph Capek'
2) Saxifraga burseriana 'Major'
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Michael on March 09, 2009, 09:11:53 PM
Impressive Luc. Could you please take a picture of the leaves of the first one? They seem interesting!
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 09, 2009, 09:15:04 PM
Will do Michael - will take a couple of days though  ;)
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Michael on March 09, 2009, 09:19:10 PM
Thanks Luc. Please take your time!  ;D
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: WimB on March 14, 2009, 07:14:14 PM
Another one that is in flower now:

Saxifraga lilacina
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: ruweiss on March 15, 2009, 09:01:11 PM
No spring in sight in southern Germany,but in spite of the nasty weather the Kabschias in
the frame seem to explode. I love these little beauties since the beginning of my rockgardening
hobby,but only a few survive in the open of my hot garden.Therefore I prefer to cultivate them
in the frame in 7x7cm plastic pots with shading during the hot days.
Sax.Joyce Carruthers gave me the bonus of a double flower this year
Sax.x akinfievii, a natural hybrid (dinnikii x juniperifolia) from Central Caucasus
Sax.Louis Armstrong (left) and Sax.Satchmo have the name of this unforgetable and famous star.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: gote on March 16, 2009, 08:47:59 AM
only a few survive in the open of my hot garden.Therefore I prefer to cultivate them
in the frame in 7x7cm plastic pots with shading during the hot days.
There was a time when i was growing kabshias. I hope to be able to do it again some time.
One thing I learnt was that a good supply of water at lower levels was very helpful.
I experimented by letting pots stand on a bed of wet sand with capillary connection all the way down to the water table
They would grow very vigorously also in a sunny position. I am today planning to build a small bed - possibly a through - where I can keep the water table at some 15 cm below the surface in the growing season and drain completely during the winter. I am at 59°North so my experience may be atypical but I have noted that plants that in the lowlands grow in shade or semi-shade will grow in fully exposed position in the mountains provided that there is melting snow higher up so that water is abundant.
Göte
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 16, 2009, 09:59:42 AM
I think you hit the nail on the head Göte !
I also have experienced that "deep water" can prevent the terrible scorching during Summer.


Very nice collection Rudi - I love the red of Louis Armstrong !

Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 16, 2009, 11:58:51 AM
I think you hit the nail on the head Göte !
I also have experienced that "deep water" can prevent the terrible scorching during Summer.


Very nice collection Rudi - I love the red of Louis Armstrong !




 I agree with all this!!  :D
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 16, 2009, 01:36:46 PM
I think you hit the nail on the head Göte !
I also have experienced that "deep water" can prevent the terrible scorching during Summer.


Very nice collection Rudi - I love the red of Louis Armstrong !




 I agree with all this!!  :D

Honoured to feel your support Maggi ! ;)
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 16, 2009, 01:39:49 PM
I think you hit the nail on the head Göte !
I also have experienced that "deep water" can prevent the terrible scorching during Summer.


Very nice collection Rudi - I love the red of Louis Armstrong !


Well, at a certain age and stage of life, one needs all the support one can get, Luc ! ;D :-X


 I agree with all this!!  :D

Honoured to feel your support Maggi ! ;)
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: gote on March 16, 2009, 02:30:25 PM
Honoured by ALL support ;D
Göte
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 16, 2009, 05:48:00 PM
Impressive Luc. Could you please take a picture of the leaves of the first one? They seem interesting!

Hi Michael,
Here's Saxifraga 'Karl Capek' again - picture taken a few days earlier than in the original post so that you can get a better view of the leaves.
Right now, the leaves are invisible - smothered with flowers i  ;D

Further down - some more groups of Saxifraga

Next is Saxifraga irvingii 'Gem' growing in Tufa

Last two : S. boydilacina 'Penelope'
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: hadacekf on March 16, 2009, 07:32:14 PM
Luc,
You have a very beautiful collection.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on March 16, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
Very nice indeed Luc.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: ruweiss on March 16, 2009, 08:56:29 PM
Luc,thank you for your kind comment.
Göte, your advice sounds very interesting, I will try to do so to reduce
my losses. Thank you!
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Michael on March 18, 2009, 12:23:30 PM
Impressive Luc. Could you please take a picture of the leaves of the first one? They seem interesting!
Hi Michael,
Here's Saxifraga 'Karl Capek' again - picture taken a few days earlier than in the original post so that you can get a better view of the leaves.
Right now, the leaves are invisible - smothered with flowers i  ;D


Many thanks Luc. I like that type of leaf! It kinda reminds a Sedum, i would never guess it could be a Saxifraga!
Very nice cumps, my compliments
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 18, 2009, 09:18:14 PM
I think you hit the nail on the head Göte !
I also have experienced that "deep water" can prevent the terrible scorching during Summer.


Very nice collection Rudi - I love the red of Louis Armstrong !




 I agree with all this!!  :D

Me too, with bells on. ;D
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: wolfgang vorig on March 19, 2009, 02:25:04 PM
my first Saxifraga nancy (left) and Saxifraga doerfleri? outsides

Wolfgang
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: ashley on March 19, 2009, 08:25:14 PM
Saxifraga spathularis, St. Patrick’s Cabbage (Irish Cabáiste an mhadra rua or ‘fox’s cabbage’) belongs to the ‘Atlantic-Mediterranean’ or ‘Lusitanian’ element of the Irish flora.  It is locally common in S & W Ireland but also occurs in NW Spain & N Portugal.

Here growing in a typical site on damp acidic rocks, northern slopes of the Derrynasaggart Mountains, NW Cork. 
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: SAXIFRAGE at LYMINGE on March 19, 2009, 09:59:19 PM
Thought you would like to see my Saxifrage I have got ready for the Kent Show this Saturday.What a fantastic year for them. Back to sticking lables on card's
Best Wishes David
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: tonyg on March 19, 2009, 10:02:51 PM
Magnificent David - only wish I could be there.  Don't think you'll need good luck wishes (except for the pot carrying marathon) that lot should scare off the opposition ;D
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 19, 2009, 10:04:32 PM
Lovely display, David.... good to see such a high standard of presentation to match the plants!  8)
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Diane Clement on March 19, 2009, 10:05:12 PM
Thought you would like to see my Saxifrage I have got ready for the Kent Show this Saturday.What a fantastic year for them. Back to sticking lables on card's  Best Wishes David 

Fantastic sight!  Good luck on Saturday
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 19, 2009, 10:11:18 PM
A fantastic grouping. If only I could shoot up there for the day. :'(
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 20, 2009, 09:06:11 AM
Thought you would like to see my Saxifrage I have got ready for the Kent Show this Saturday.What a fantastic year for them. Back to sticking lables on card's
Best Wishes David

Magnificent sight David !
Looking forward to seeing them "in the flesh" tomorrow  :D- a consolation for the gloomy prospect of having to get up at 04.00 hrs tomorrow morning  :'(
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: SAXIFRAGE at LYMINGE on March 20, 2009, 10:39:57 AM
Thank you all for your kind comments. Good luck to all those who are competing at the shows this Saturday.Luc you should have a smooth crossing the weather is set fair for the weekend, look forward to seeing you at the show.
Best Wishes David.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 20, 2009, 11:12:39 AM
[quote author=Luc Gilgemyn link=topic=3145.msg81979#msg81979 date=1237539971

Magnificent sight David !
Looking forward to seeing them "in the flesh" tomorrow  :D- a consolation for the gloomy prospect of having to get up at 04.00 hrs tomorrow morning  :'(
[/quote]

Remember , Luc, "no pain, no gain"  ;D
 
I hope everyone travelling to a show tomorrow , whether to exhibit or visit has a wonderful day! ( AND TAKES LOTS OF PHOTOS TO SHARE!! ;D ;D ;)  )
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Diane Clement on March 20, 2009, 11:16:10 AM
( AND TAKES LOTS OF PHOTOS TO SHARE!! )   

Yes, miss, I'll try to remember  ::)
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 20, 2009, 11:30:37 AM
( AND TAKES LOTS OF PHOTOS TO SHARE!! )   

Yes, miss, I'll try to remember  ::)
Thank you "Clement", you do have a tendency to spend a lot of time chatting at the back of the class, I think. ::)  :-*
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Diane Clement on March 20, 2009, 12:42:14 PM
Thank you "Clement", you do have a tendency to spend a lot of time chatting at the back of the class, I think. ::)  :-* 

I seem to remember the same comment 40 + years ago  ;D
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: ranunculus on March 20, 2009, 01:07:34 PM
Was that at Uni' ?    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: wolfgang vorig on March 20, 2009, 04:41:20 PM
hallo all,
some more Saxifragas outsides.

Regard     wolfgang

 Satchmo
 Excellent
 Cumulus

Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: WimB on March 20, 2009, 05:34:49 PM
Another one in flower in my garden:

Saxifraga burseriana var. crenata
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: WimB on March 27, 2009, 10:27:24 AM
And another one that is flowering despite the lousy weather:

Saxifraga poluniana var. poluniana
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: mark smyth on March 28, 2009, 09:55:38 PM
I saw this lovely Sax in a friend's green house plunge today. S. 'Nanceye'
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Lori S. on March 29, 2009, 05:08:57 AM
What a lovely thread!  Would the last one be Winton Harding's hybrid 'Nancye'?  I was browsing my books and it is described favourably in both the new McGregor book and in Winton Harding's own publication (though he very modestly did not not mention there that it was his own product!  :))
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: mark smyth on March 29, 2009, 06:40:23 AM
probably. The nursery label had an extra e
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: gervandenbeuken on March 29, 2009, 09:29:46 AM
Some of the exploding Saxes in our tufa garden

S. alpigena
S. marginata var. minor
S. marginata var. boryi
S. marginata var. minor
S. matta-florida
S. sp. McB 1379 aff. alpigena
S. sancta
S. vandellii
S. oppositifolia 'Le Bourg d'Oisans'
S. sp. aff pulvinaria coll. Kasjmir
 
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: gervandenbeuken on March 29, 2009, 09:37:39 AM
correction:
2 images are the same. Image 2 and 4 are both S. marginata var. minor
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: maggiepie on March 29, 2009, 12:31:11 PM
What a delightful thread, I have really enjoyed looking at all these beautiful little plants. :)
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: ruweiss on March 29, 2009, 09:46:09 PM
Hello, dear friends,
here are some more Kabschias from the frame:

 Kabschias
 Sax.Beatles
 Sax dinnikii White
 Sax.Jan Neruda
 Sax.Joy Bishop
 Sax.Radvan Horny
 Sax.Rembrandt van Rijn
 Sax.wendelboi.jpg
 Sax.x dinninaris Stopp's best clone
 Sax.J.W.von Goethe
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on March 29, 2009, 09:51:58 PM
A very smart selection, Rudi!
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: ian mcenery on March 30, 2009, 12:08:44 AM
Just caught up with this thread.  Wonderful plants everyone

Here are a couple of mine both tiny. The first Allendale Bonny growing in Tufa and the second S. madrifaria  in a small crevice outcrop I put together last year. This plant 18 months old is one of 3 in various spots but is flowering the best of all.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Mark Griffiths on March 30, 2009, 12:48:18 PM
Does anyone know the name of a Saxifrage I got many many years ago (sorry no photo). It is supposed to flower around Christmas time, pure white, the rosettes are quite large and spikey. I got it from Joe Eliiott, it was Sax Marie XXXXX I can't remember what XXXX was and I've never seen it mentioned since.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Diane Clement on March 30, 2009, 12:56:16 PM
Does anyone know the name of a Saxifrage I got many many years ago (sorry no photo). It is supposed to flower around Christmas time, pure white, the rosettes are quite large and spikey. I got it from Joe Eliiott, it was Sax Marie XXXXX I can't remember what XXXX was and I've never seen it mentioned since.

The Sax Society have a good database,
http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/default.asp (http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/default.asp)

you can search by part of a term.  I put in Marie and got this:
http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/searchtaxa.asp?FullName=marie&GenusID=0 (http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/searchtaxa.asp?FullName=marie&GenusID=0)

somewhere for you to start
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Mark Griffiths on March 30, 2009, 01:13:43 PM
you know, isn't it just one of those things? I remembered! It's Marie Louise and interestingly it's not in the database though I found a reference online to an AGS bulletin which, with luck I have.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: wolfgang vorig on March 30, 2009, 04:45:47 PM
pictures from Alpinen - Beet and from Mini - Alpinum
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on March 30, 2009, 08:35:37 PM
you know, isn't it just one of those things? I remembered! It's Marie Louise and interestingly it's not in the database though I found a reference online to an AGS bulletin which, with luck I have.

Mark, could it be Saxifraga x petraschii 'Maria Luisa' (S. burseriana x S. tombeanensis)? Malcolm McGregor says it flowers mid-winter, he doesn't mention a 'Marie Luise'
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on March 30, 2009, 08:36:11 PM
pictures from Alpinen - Beet and from Mini - Alpinum

What beautiful beds Wolfgang.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: gote on March 31, 2009, 11:38:32 AM
Beautiful beds Wolfgang.
A question.
Do you shade in the summer or do you water a lot? I asume Sachsen can be quite hot in July/August
Göte
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: wolfgang vorig on March 31, 2009, 07:51:56 PM
Beautiful beds Wolfgang.
A question.
Do you shade in the summer or do you water a lot? I asume Sachsen can be quite hot in July/August
Göte

Hi Gote,

Saxifragen are in full sun. Early in the morning it is very humid (dew). It is sprayed at evening as needed.

Regard  wolfgang
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Mark Griffiths on March 31, 2009, 08:12:15 PM
The "Marie Louise" mystery deepens. I found it in the AGS bulletin but with no ifo other than it is white and flowers at Christmas. I thought the description of "Maria Luisa" was it..but look at the picture on the Sax database I'm not sure. My plant has definate 1 inch stems (it's outside and I think it did in a pot too) plus it has often two flowers on a stem. The stems are greenish yellow I think.

In the meantime, I new one bought at the Sax open day "Paul Gaugin" and one from a few years back "Allendale Bounty"
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on March 31, 2009, 08:29:40 PM
The "Marie Louise" mystery deepens. I found it in the AGS bulletin but with no ifo other than it is white and flowers at Christmas. I thought the description of "Maria Luisa" was it..but look at the picture on the Sax database I'm not sure. My plant has definate 1 inch stems (it's outside and I think it did in a pot too) plus it has often two flowers on a stem. The stems are greenish yellow I think.

In the meantime, I new one bought at the Sax open day "Paul Gaugin" and one from a few years back "Allendale Bounty"

Mark, the only other other information I can find in McGregor is that Maria Louisa has white flowers and grey foliage
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Mark Griffiths on March 31, 2009, 09:17:47 PM
hi, yes, I found it here http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/taxon_image.asp?Image=1073&Taxon=1453 Still doesn't look quite like it. Close but this always has a flower stem and usually two to three flowers per stem.

Also the article by Vic Apsland in the AGS journal does have "Marie Louise". hmmmm
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: gote on April 02, 2009, 08:50:45 AM
'Maria Luisa' Syn Marie Louise marie Luisa.
Burseriana x marignata A late hybrid by Kellerer.
Very early. May open in December.
There is a complete description and good illustrations in "Horny".
Göte
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: wolfgang vorig on April 08, 2009, 04:42:45 PM
Saxifragen today in full flower
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: ranunculus on April 08, 2009, 05:12:59 PM
Superb, Wolfgang - magnificent raised beds.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: hadacekf on April 08, 2009, 05:50:32 PM
Wolfgang,
You have a very good collection in beautiful rock beds
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on April 08, 2009, 06:48:47 PM
Exquisite Saxifraga bed Wolfgang !
Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on April 08, 2009, 08:42:48 PM
Wolfgang, are your rock beds open to the rain please.
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Roma on April 08, 2009, 09:46:41 PM
Wonderful selection of saxifragas growing very well, Wolfgang.  I must get my tatty old plants propagated and my raised bed rejuvenated.

Flowering now in my coldframe - Saxifraga georgei

Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: wolfgang vorig on April 09, 2009, 06:15:11 PM
Hallo,

Thank you all for the interest in Saxifragen my wife's bed.

Regard,    wolfgang
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: wolfgang vorig on April 09, 2009, 06:18:08 PM
Wolfgang, are your rock beds open to the rain please.

Hallo David,
this bed is open to the rain and in full sun.

regard,    wolfgang
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: Maggi Young on April 09, 2009, 06:43:59 PM
Hallo,

Thank you all for the interest in Saxifragen my wife's bed.

Regard,    wolfgang

So, Wolfgang, your lady wife grows Saxifraga as well as her orchids, I see! Excellent 8)
Title: Re: Saxifrage-March 2009
Post by: David Nicholson on April 09, 2009, 06:58:54 PM
Many thanks Wolfgang.
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