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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Hans A. on February 01, 2009, 07:36:28 PM
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Let's start february shrubby in blue ;) :
Lavandula dentata
Lavandula multifida
Lavandula pinnatifida
Teucrium fruticans 'Azureum'
Rosmarinus officinalis
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So it's definitely all right to have "the blues" at your place Hans. They'd keep us very cheerful.
I like the way the flowers on Lav. pinnatifida twist around the stem. I don't recall that from when I had it.
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This is what my garden looks like this morning.
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It looks beautiful Anne, though I'm not sure the plants would agree
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The blues look lovely Hans, which of the lavendulas would be the most hardy?
I have a rosemary wintering indoors, I noticed yesterday it was getting buds. :)
Anne, my garden looks much like yours, without the hamamelis, which looks beautiful in the snow.
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Truly beautiful. I believe even Oxford St in London has been deserted because of snow.
Snow on the ground is a good way to design new areas or beds. Just walk where it seems natural to walk and you can see the lines without having to lay down ropes or hoses. Just have to remember where you walked, or push in markers of some kind.
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Lesley, if I walked around my yard at the moment I would be up to my ummm waist in places. ;)
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I only had a couple of inches of snow, it wasn't even enough to cover this crocus.
Hopefully there will be some more overnight.
I also took a pic of a witch hazel with snow on the flowers!
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Nice crocus :)
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At least you HAVE a waist. I don't think I have nowadays. Perhaps the snow is too deep for you though.
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There's a bit of snow here but its melting quickly in the sunshine.
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I just see only Cyclamen, Jo ;D ;D
BTW, your link in your profile does not work for me, did you know that?
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Nor for me :(
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I just see only Cyclamen, Jo ;D ;D
BTW, your link in your profile does not work for me, did you know that?
Nor for me
I've tried to fix the link..... but I can only get it to take you to the National Gardens Scheme site.... there you need to Search for Cherubeer Gardens.... 8)
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Thanks Maggi, I'll have a look and see if I'm capable or incapable :-\ the latter I expect
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I just see only Cyclamen, Jo ;D ;D
BTW, your link in your profile does not work for me, did you know that?
I think my link works now, though the website is in its infancy, I have to bribe my children to help me with it ;D
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Jo
Have just looked at your website - it is wonderful. :) :) :)
I really enjoyed the tour of your garden in 2007, especially the Snowdrops. I am due to visit 5 gardens this coming weekend, and may not get to see any, so it was nice to have seen yours.
The attachments showing Cyclamen appear very large, and take a long time to download. would it be possible and sensible to reduce their size. :-\
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Jo,
I have enjoyed visiting the website. Isn't it a bit like peeping over the wall to see what someone's garden is like?
Paddy
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It is, Paddy! That's rather the feeling I get from visiting all the websites of our talented forumists who both garden and share it via the net.... such a treat for us to enjoy.
Jo, you didn't tell us yet how your open day went at the weekend? Many early visitors out and about?
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I just see only Cyclamen, Jo ;D ;D
BTW, your link in your profile does not work for me, did you know that?
I think my link works now, though the website is in its infancy, I have to bribe my children to help me with it ;D
Thank you Jo!
After reading your posts I was curious about your garden.
Now it works and I enjoyed it very much.
It is for us from abroad the (almost) only way to have a look in other people's gardens,
because visiting is seldom possible.
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OK...so they are not 'Alpines', I'm not 'Scottish' and I didn't even grow them myself.......but they are dead classy shrubs, certain to cheer one up!
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Woo, fab selection of Witch Hazels there, Giles... have you a bit of a soft spot for Hamamelis?
OK...so they are not 'Alpines', I'm not 'Scottish' and I didn't even grow them myself.......
...and how would this be relevant , exactly? ;D ;)
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H. x intermedia 'Vezna'
H. x intermedia 'Aphrodite'
H. mollis 'Pallida'
H. x intermedia 'Aurora'
H. x intermedia 'Barmstedt Gold'
H. x intermedia 'Livia'
I gather there are some very keen Belgian growers/collectors of these..... (?)
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.....it was a case of needing to be cheered up, and these seemed to fit the bill.
(and anything goes on these pages!!!)
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Hmmmm, "dead classy shrubs"? I don't know about anyone else, but I don't care how classy they are, dead shrubs don't cheer me up.
(yes, I get it, I get it...)
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This is Nesocodon mauritianus (syn. Wahlenbergia mauritiana) - originally from Mauritius -
it is surprisingly 'hardy' down to approximately zero (Celsius) - for a short time.
Of course in winter it does much better inside in a cold room.
It's a very showy species but with an unpleasant feature, it produces a red-colored nectar en masse which stains the surrounding.
Gerd
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ummmm.... Carlo, this language thing can be most troublesome...
some of the misunderstandings on my one and only trip to North America were most amusing....(and unrepeatable on these pages!!!)
PS. The photos of Primula scotica I took at Dunnet earlier in the year, and posted on this site, have now been accepted and posted on the 'PrimulaWorld' website. You saw them here first folks !!!
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I gather there are some very keen Belgian growers/collectors of these..... (?)
no, no: It's not that the Hamamelis are relevant or not.... but that you not being Scottish is relevant?? ;D
Carlo, you're not helping!! :P
Giles.... good news about the Primula scotica pix... which were a joy! Pam Eveleigh's Primula World is a great place....in a world ( class) of its own, eh? :D
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Gerd, I haven't before seen this plant ..... and with the red staining nectar,I won't be trying to find it ....but I do find it interesting.... the flowers do not seem to "fit" with the foliage... looks too different!
Another new plant learned today- Thank you!
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Just having a bit of fun. Like Giles I've heard stories about misunderstandings--going from this side of the pond to yours as well. They're actually great fun at cocktail parties.
Well done on the primula photos Giles!
...and it's firmly my opinion that one can never have enough witch hazels...although they are at their best in photographs (where the amazing flowers can fill a frame). Luckily they flower at the most opportune times.
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Carlo et al.
Our local rhododendron group has a list of witchhazel cultivars for the spring sale. I would be interested to know which cultivars you find to be exceptional. I will also post the list of the ones they have coming in. At $15 each they are a bargain.
johnw
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It is, Paddy! That's rather the feeling I get from visiting all the websites of our talented forumists who both garden and share it via the net.... such a treat for us to enjoy.
Jo, you didn't tell us yet how your open day went at the weekend? Many early visitors out and about?
Hi Maggi, the open day was fun but quiet. 36 visitors came and braved the ferocious wind, drinking tea and buying plants. Everything is behind and it was not warm enough to open the flowers, but we still managed to raise £242 for the NGS, so well worthwhile.
We're open again this Sunday but the forecast looks even worse with heavy rain :( :( Its always a gamble at this time of year. We open the first two Sundays in Feb so I can get away to other peoples events the next two weekends. I base that on the westcountry being ahead, so I go up country and follow the season. :D :D
I hope the snow goes before next Sunday, theres more of it and its whiter than snowdrops, they can't compete on whiteness ;D
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John.... $15 for a witch hazel is a mega bargain, in my opinion.... you have a lucky membership there!
Jo, heartening to have that many in the weather conditions, I'm impressed with their gumption.
Fingers crossed for a better day this weekend..... such a shame to have this bad spell come when there are so many galanthus gardens opening......there will be so many more disappointed visitors than even the poor garden owners ...... what's the betting that as soon as all the flowersare ruined,the weather bucks up and turns really lovely? :P
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John,
It's really a matter of personal choice. Size of flower and color are the two main considerations as many of them have nice fall color, etc. Two that are relatively easy to get are 'Arnold's Promise' a nice yellow, and 'Jelena' that tends toward orange. I have not grown any of the reds but the color range seems to be expanding as breeders have their way. Look at as many photos as you can...and then decide which YOU like best for your garden and the position in it. In my experience they are not problematic in terms of culture. (Were I you, I'd be picking up a bunch...)
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Carlo - We think highly of Arnold's Promise, Jelena and Pallida. I understand some of the cultivars are not heavy bloomers or with small, not so showy, flowers. The reds do not seem to stand out well when in flower especially Diane. Here are the ones avaliable:
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Feuerzauber'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Orange Beauty'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Ruby Glow'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Sunburst'
Hamamelis x intermedia 'Westerstede'
Have heard good things about the Westerstede. I would be interested in comments on them but will probably grab the lot anyway.
john
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John, last week when my Hamamelis Diane opened, I thought top myself "We could do with some snow behind it to show it off". So all the disruption caused by our little bit of snow is my fault! The witch hazel looked nice though. ;)
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John, last week when my Hamamelis Diane opened, I thought top myself !
Anne
Life cannot be that bad :)
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Anne - re: UK snow
So it's your fault! Maybe next time paint the house white.
It is a real problem getting Diane to stand out.
johnw
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I would be interested in comments on them but will probably grab the lot anyway.
They are not snowdrops you know John ;D
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John, last week when my Hamamelis Diane opened, I thought top myself !
Anne
Life cannot be that bad :)
OOPS ;D
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John, last week when my Hamamelis Diane opened, I thought top myself "We could do with some snow behind it to show it off". So all the disruption caused by our little bit of snow is my fault! The witch hazel looked nice though. ;)
This was Aphrodite 'topped off' by the snow :D
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Why do I always forget to add the pic ???
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.... the flowers do not seem to "fit" with the foliage... looks too different!
Maggi,
The leaves are not unusual for Campanulaceae, please have a look at David Lyttle's pic of Wahlenbergia mathewsii from NZ Field Trips 2009 - Jan. 31!
Also Azorina vidalii has a similar foliage - of course both plants lack the 'typical' blue flowers.
Gerd
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Fongers crossed for a better day this weekend..... such a shame to have this bad spell come
;D
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Well I'm crossing my fongers.
edit by M: well, O'm crissong my fonergrs, is at hoppins .....really must get a new keyborad.... half the letters are worn off and I am a loust typist without visual aid!! :-[ :-X ;)
I feel like Officer Crabtree half the time! ( from 'Allo 'Allo ;D)
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Eranthis 'Guinea Gold' is now above ground in the garden and in pots. This form is proving to be very vigerous in the garden. E. hymalis and E. cilicica have dwindled in the garden. They were great a few years ago but now there are only c30 left.
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Some picts from my geenhouse, taken last weekend:
Op. lucis
Op. speculum
Op. ferrum-equinum
Cory. maracandica
Cory. chionophila
Cory. angustifolia
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Just lovely Gerhard. :)
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Gerhard
Your bill for heating must be very large ???
Beautiful plants, beautifully photographed
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Nothing to add to Arthurs comments! ;D
Just wonderful.
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Wonderful Ophrys Gerhard.
I presume you must have had lots of sunny days there?
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John, last week when my Hamamelis Diane opened, I thought top myself "We could do with some snow behind it to show it off". So all the disruption caused by our little bit of snow is my fault! The witch hazel looked nice though. ;)
Snow here not topping either Diane or myself ;)
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Gerhard,
Perhaps this ground has already been covered (direct me to the information if need be) but I'm interested in how you are cultivating your Orphrys. We RARELY see them in the United States. I'm quite fond of them (having seen a few species in the wild), and the only resource I have, though a nice (and somewhat controversial) one, is Pedersen and Faurholdt.
Hearing the methods of one who has had such success as your photographs evidence, would be greatly appreciated.
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Ashley, the snowdrops are definately the way to show off the dark red Hamamelis's. Really pretty planting. :)
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I totally agree with Jo Ashley, an inspired bit of planting. I will move some of my snowdrops!
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Thanks for the kind comments Jo and Brian. To be honest, more accident than design :-[
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Helleborus thibetanus. The snow always arrives just when it is at its peak! It has been showing colour since the end of Dec. but hugs the ground for a long while before coming out fully. The plant in the background showing colour is Rhododendron dauricum which seems to take anything the weather can throw at it.
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Maureen & Brian
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Even with all that snow over it, the plant is still looking well, isn't it? Bulking up well and the colour is delightful. That's a picture for a future christmas card, I think..... so pretty 8)
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Ashley,
I thought you professed a definite disinterest in snowdrops. Well, your photographs contradict your words. A beautiful piece of planting.
Paddy
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Maureen and Brian,
that's an absolutely charming picture! Maggi's right, you should have it made into a Christmas Card!
cheers
fermi
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Gerhard,
Perhaps this ground has already been covered (direct me to the information if need be) but I'm interested in how you are cultivating your Orphrys. We RARELY see them in the United States. I'm quite fond of them (having seen a few species in the wild), and the only resource I have, though a nice (and somewhat controversial) one, is Pedersen and Faurholdt.
Hearing the methods of one who has had such success as your photographs evidence, would be greatly appreciated.
I would be interested in this info too. I grow mine in a frost-free greenhouse in the same compost I use for cypripediums: 80% inorganic (perlite or pumice); 20% organic, of which half is loam. This year I have put a base of gritty alpine mix for the roots to dip into. I have lovely rosettes at the moment but the first flowers are a month or so away.
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Ashley,
I thought you professed a definite disinterest in snowdrops. Well, your photographs contradict your words. A beautiful piece of planting.
Paddy
On the contrary Paddy, who could not love snowdrops?
It's just that with so many plant obsessions already I am forced to prioritize ruthlessly ;)
However the Forum undermines my resolve and species seed is being sown ... aagh!
Really beautiful plant and pictures Maureen and Brian.
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Dear Carlo and Anthony,
I use a similar cultivation like Anthony.Plants are potted in 13cm square plastic pots.The soil is a mix of 50% Perlit (I use it because Seramis is too expensive) and 50% rotted bark.Sometimes I cover with limestone grid, but it is only to reduce volatilize.All pots are in a coldhouse, which I keep frost free ( approx 5°C) in winter.When the start to grew in fall I water them every 2 or 3 weeks, soil must be light moist.When in spring the sun shines on my glasshouse, temperatures increase fast, and it is possible to water every 3 days.Then it is the right moment to fertilize the plants.Normally the start flowering in February and March. The go in rest in May, and I stop watering.While summer I water all 2 weeks to minimize the shrink of the tubers.It `d be better to keep pots coller while summer rest.In August/ September it is important to repot the tubers in fresh soil.Most of the plants looses are in fact of fhungi attack.So parts of the old tubers are medium for bacteria growing.Keep dry while summer !
In my opinion it doesn`t matter what kind of soil is used.Every gardener have to find the whole culture methode of pot size, soil, watering and fernilization, temperatures and airing, time of growing and rest circle.It is a great package , which isn`t possible easy to copy.
If `d be a lie telling the unique and right cultivation of Ophrys here.
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Today was the first warm, sunny day this year and it flowers the following bulb in my garden.
Eranthis hiemalis
Colchicum-doerfleri
Galanthus self seedlings
Crocus laevigatus
Anemone blanda grow in bulb beet
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Smashing pictures of great looking plants Franz ! :o
It's a nice feeling to see your garden wake up in Spring isn't it ? Thanks for sharing !
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Gerhard,
Thank you very much for your clear explanation of the methods you use to grow Ophrys. I will save the email and use it if I ever have the chance to grow this fantastic genus.
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I thank you too Gerhard. It will allow me to 'fine tune' my techniques.
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Hi all, minus 6C today and lots of snow still around, I post a picture of crocus amongst the snow, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Lovely plants Gerhard and Franz!
Some pictures from the last few days:
Daubenya aurea red form
Hippeastrum papilio
Gynandriris sisyrinchium
Ranunculus asiaticus orange form
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Great Miriam, a breath of warmth for all of us in the UK ;)
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Miriam, very nice plants. I like the Daubenya especially.
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Gerhard, Franz and Miriam thanks for showing this wonderful plants :D
-from a very generous forumist I received this fantastic yellow Daubenya which actually is in flower - thanks a lot again :-* :D
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Speaking from a morass of Galanthophobic ignorance, and having to admit to never having set eye (...nor finger) on one before, I do find your excellent pictures of snowdrops very fascinating and the various discourses quite entralling. :D
Perhaps it is time for me to acquire a packet of seed and, hopefully, raise some to flowering size in my inappropriate climate - who knows, I may yet be smitten by their modestly declining countenances and fill my benches with potted treasure!
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How close to a Mediterranean climate do you have Rogan? Many species, such as ikariae and fosteri can be grown in these types of environments.
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Lot of Christmas cards here in February. ;D And so beautiful! Thank you all!
Ashley,
I too love your Hamamelis-Galanthus combination!!!
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Thanks Kata. Spring is on the way 8)
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Both those daubenya are wonderful.
here is a picture of a couple of Helleborus niger from seed collected in Italy to show the before and after pollination colour. Not the best of plants particularly to grow in pots but they will not grow in the open garden with me.
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Both those daubenya are wonderful.
here is a picture of a couple of Helleborus niger from seed collected in Italy to show the before and after pollination colour. Not the best of plants particularly to grow in pots but they will not grow in the open garden with me.
Tony - Interesting to hear that Helleborus niger is cranky by you. Here it is not the easiest Hellebore to grow, in fact it is downright difficult here. A friend here had a huge clump on the north side of his house, the soil had sharp drainage and was on the alkaline side but evenly moist. Anemone japonica Honorine Jobert grew nearby and was equally as lusty, yet both of these plants are terribly difficult to get established here and to live long term.
This year we actually had a niger in full flower at Christmas time, the first time it has lived up to its name. I wonder what it looks like now having been under snow since the New Year.
It would be interesting to hear from others who grow H. niger successfully.
johnw
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Even after a very mild (for us) snow free winter with little frost in the ground, it didn't flower until April. I have a picture of it in flower from 26th April.
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I have one in a pot, grown from seed (not by me). Last year I put it in a frost free place to flower for Christmas. It was timed exactly, it had 3 flowers on Christmas day. Then I put it in a cold (16°C) room. In March (already with three new leaves) he went out in the garden. And I put it in a bigger pot in fresh compost.
This year made exactly the same. On Christmas day it had 3 flowers and 2 buds. But the last bud hadn't open at all and no leaves until now. I think I'm going to get it out from the pot, to see what happens down there at the roots. ???
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I was about to respond, John, and then I read the very last word of your posting!
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I was about to respond, John, and then I read the very last word of your posting!
David - It would still be interesting to hear about your experiences with H. niger.
Here it just dwindles away after a couple of years, sometimes sooner.
johnw - cold today -3 but temperature rising, +7 and rain tomorrow.
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A real surprise today with this iris holding its head above the snow, cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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It is not a plant that I have tried very often but, like yours, it does Ok the first year, poorly the second year and then does not bother at all. I have tried it in open ground on the north side of the house and in semi shady areas elsewhere but it seems that it is just not a 'doer' for me
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Lovely Iris Ian, we've got a couple struggling up through the snow... will send the man out with the camera tomorrow if the weather is suitable. ;D
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As I reported around Christmas.
I have tried Helleborus niger from various commercial sources and they have always failed. :(
Two years ago I was given a "local clone" that is supposed to have grown somewhere in the neighbourhood for (many) decades.
That one grows very well and I even had (a) flower to Christmas which is an achievement in my climate. :)
I have no idea wether those that died were virused or had some other disease. However, I should think that it was a variation of the "normal problem"
I.e. that the plants we buy here in Sweden are not those that grow best here but those that are most easily propagated in Holland. :(
H.n. is a great flower so some research would perhaps not be out of place.
Göte
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Would growing our own from seed be likely to ease the problem?
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I have one in a pot, grown from seed (not by me). Last year I put it in a frost free place to flower for Christmas. It was timed exactly, it had 3 flowers on Christmas day. Then I put it in a cold (16°C) room. In March (already with three new leaves) he went out in the garden. And I put it in a bigger pot in fresh compost.
This year made exactly the same. On Christmas day it had 3 flowers and 2 buds. But the last bud hadn't open at all and no leaves until now. I think I'm going to get it out from the pot, to see what happens down there at the roots. ???
I took it out and washed the roots. I found a little part (where the unopened bud grew), which was rotted. The rest seemed healthy. I cut it down, sprayed the whole thing with a fungicide, and put back in sterilised compost. ???
Hungarian horticultural magazines say (maybe nothing new for you), that if one grows H. niger in the garden, at flowering time better remove the old leaves, because they could be centers of many fungal diseases...
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Ashley,
Do you have a name to that Hamamelis?
I have at last managed to get H virginianum growing and flowering reliably but in November.
Your picture is very inspiring to get another one for the spring.
Göte.
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David,
You are probably right. I will try to sow seed from it and get them out in the open ground quickly. Natural selection would do the rest. This is of course also a possibility in other climates. The problem would be that this kind of strain would be expensive if it should go into the market for others to buy. It is of course better to buy one expensive plant that grows well than five cheap that die.
Katherine,
Your adivce is good. It also shows off the flowers better. I was thinking about it but felt that I had not observed the plant enough to be sure it was the right thing to do.
Göte
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Snow here not topping either Diane or myself ;)
Ashley,
Do you have a name to that Hamamelis?
Göte there's often a clue ;) ;D
It's Hamamelis x intermedia 'Diane' (HH. japonica x mollis), selected at the Kalmthout Arboretum in Belgium.
The colour is best I think if planted where the sun can back-light it.
If you have any difficulty finding it locally please let me know.
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I agree that it's better to remove the old leaves (of all Helleborus) around the time the new buds are showing. The leaves have done their job by this time and are already beginning the dying process, with new ones ready to appear as the flowers are maturing.
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Around January time I remove the dead leaves from our hellebors. I remove all old material from the ones that start again from resting buds but some, like H. foetidus have their new flowers on the top of existing stems.
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Maybe this should have gone in the bulb section, but I couldn't find a very good thread, so stuck it in here.
This has just opened up, quite a cutie
Hyacinthus transcaspicus
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I really like these small Hyacinths
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The BD has just been asking for seeds of these wee guys from one of the lists ::)
Hard to resist those blue anthers!
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The BD has just been asking for seeds of these wee guys from one of the lists ::)
Hard to resist those blue anthers!
There's more to come, so I'll have to do a tickle. The bulbs came from PJC.
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The same as PC?
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Yeah, obviously one wouldn't remove the older leaves from HH. foetidus and argutifolius. They are more shrub-like in growth then perennial.
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The same as PC?
Yes
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Ashley,
Thank you for the info. If I know the name I believe I can find it. I agree with your planting suggestion. My H virginica is in the wrong place I understood that too late :(
Re: Göte there's often a clue Wink Grin.
When it comes to shrubs - and to myself - a clue is often all I have. Some were planted by my grandfather and some by my father neither of them labelled. ???<-Me
Some are gifts from people who got it as gift from someone who........
Then not all nurseries supply what they say they do. >:(
For many decade Swedish gardeners and nurseries would claim to grow the very ancient "Svealandsrosen" Supposedly a Viking age rose type.
In the nineteennineties i think, someone found out that it was 'Minette', a French cultivar from the late 19th century. ;D
Horticulture is full of myths 8) Many enough to qualify for a thread of their own.
Göte
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Maybe this should have gone in the bulb section, but I couldn't find a very good thread, so stuck it in here.
This has just opened up, quite a cutie
Hyacinthus transcaspicus
Lovely pic. Nice to see it in the flesh, so to speak. 8)
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Diane very nice hyacinthus its alovely thing. It would appear to have been collected by Janis as there is a picture of it in his book.
Helleborus vesicarius is flowering now
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beautiful plants, :o
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Rafa
Very very nice - my erythroniums are still underground.
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This is the time of year when Ian the BD gets anxious for his Erythroniums...... so he has one in a pot in the glass house, to open it sooner so he can have a fix.... it is Erythronium caucasicum, like Rafs's.... but it will take a few more sunny days to open it, i think!
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Now that's a Helleborus thibetanus! Best one I've seen. Posted by Jim McClements on the Yahoo Trillium Group.
http://botgard.bio.uu.nl/spgm-1.4.4/gal/Trillium/Helleborus_thibetanus_7896.jpg (http://botgard.bio.uu.nl/spgm-1.4.4/gal/Trillium/Helleborus_thibetanus_7896.jpg)
johnw
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Now that's a Helleborus thibetanus!
Good grief. It sure is... what a bosker.... FAB!
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Now that's a Helleborus thibetanus!
Good grief. It sure is... what a bosker.... FAB!
I may change my mind about thibetanus. Always thought it a weakling with no texture and getting beaten up in blustery weather.
The few we've had came from Chen Yi and were viral, all died within a year.
johnw
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I wonder where it is growing.Mine is in flower but suffers every time we have frost and just collapses. My orignal plants from Chen yi were okay,no virus and I bought a seed raised one from Keith Lever. My present plants are from my own seed which sets easily under glass.Now they are all planted out sideI have just pollinated them so it remains to be seen how good this is.
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Rafa,
I grow Erythronium caucasicum too, but it did not flower ever.
It is a well growing however not flowering form.
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I wonder where it is growing.Mine is in flower but suffers every time we have frost and just collapses. My orignal plants from Chen yi were okay,no virus and I bought a seed raised one from Keith Lever. My present plants are from my own seed which sets easily under glass.Now they are all planted out sideI have just pollinated them so it remains to be seen how good this is.
Tony
Jim is in Dover, Delaware, USA. I don't know how prone to late frosts he is. Friends in the same area complain about their saucer magnolias regularly getting zapped while in flower.
We had 3 different H. thibetanus sent from Chen Yi over the last 10 years and every one succumbed with virus-like symptoms, streaked leaves and twisted hard foliage. The last one three years ago lasted a full year but was suspicious looking on arrival. If you could spare a couple of fresh seeds sometime it would be nice to try yet again.
johnw
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Now that's a Helleborus thibetanus! Best one I've seen.
You're not wrong there John!
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John if it sets seed I will do that
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A few Hellebores hybs.
Pic quality not good because the wind was blowing.
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that puts my single stemmed 3 flower H. thibetanus to shame
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Helleborus vesicarius is flowering now
I hope you've been pollinating madly Tony. Your plant is truly very fine and beautiful. Does this species need pot culture or it in one for a trip to a show?
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Oh, those Helleborus!!!
Some buds here:
Saxifraga x elisabethae 'Dunnowhat' ;D (it was wiped away from the label)
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Draba lasiocarpa:
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And the little Draba imbricata was almost all brownish a few weeks ago, I thought it died, bot now it seems to awake...
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What did I wrong???
Edit by Maggi.... Kata, you need to put attach=1 in the square brackets, not the file name. You are putting attach=draba.jpg in the square brackets ...the system does not load that properly. I edit the post to contain attach=1 attach=2 etc and that works! M
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Here are some pics from earlier today - it seems the snow will disappear soon!
Gerd
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Thank you Maggi!!! :-* It's easier than I thought. ::)
I just don't know why do some people complicate things so much. ::) ;D ::)
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My pleasure, Kata! Always good to see your photos, you know.
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My goodness Gerd, those snowdrops look REALLY chilly.
Nice close-up pictures Kata. Drabas always play that nasty trick. The rosettes seem to die completely in winter but there is always the tiniest pin-prick of life in the centre and this grows to greenness again. I'm often fooled. Many Silenes do the same thing, S. acaulis, for example.
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From a week ago when I travelled north to give a couple of talks. Mike & Ju Bramley have a great tufa garden! See the Dionysia thread for a few more pics.
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Helleborus vesicarius is flowering now
I hope you've been pollinating madly Tony. Your plant is truly very fine and beautiful. Does this species need pot culture or it in one for a trip to a show?
Lesley I gave up on showing years ago. It has been in its pot for about 10 years and I have two of them.I have cross pollinated in every sort of conditions imagineable and they have only once set one pod with one seed.Nothing seems to work.
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One seed in 10 years ??? I hope you're not relying on it for retirement income Tony. ;D
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Helleborus thibetanus has emerged from its enforced hibernation of 2 weeks under the snow (see p.4 of this thread). A little the worse for wear.
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This plant was acquired as Adonis amurensis, but it is the sterile 'garden' form.
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What a sturdy plant! Does it receive a special treatment?
Gerd
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Stunning plants - and pictures - both. :)
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Gerdk - if you are referring to the Hellebore, then the answer is no. Both plants get taller as they age, but both are self supporting.
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Still looking good Brian !!
I would even say very good !
Beautiful plant (s)
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Yes, Brian - I refered to H. thibetanus!
For comparison only - my species after some years (although a little way back concerning the season)
Gerd
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Gerd - For more background info. about our H. thibetanus. We have 2 clumps, - the original was a plant purchased from Ian Christie in 1998 which came with a seed pod on. This plant was planted in one part of the garden in a shady place, but the tree providing the shade subsequently died! So although the clump has expanded, it does not do as well as the plant in the posted pic. The latter was put in a different place with better shading, and came from the seedlings raised from the bought plant. More than one seedling was planted in the same spot. These expanded to form the present clump. This clump sets viable seed without any hand pollinating, and the seed goes to the seed exchange. The original plant does not tend to set seed, probably because it is in a less favourable site and is a clonal clump.
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Brian,
It is indeed a magnificent clump of H. thibetanus. You mention that it receives no special attention, yet I note that the snow pattern around it makes it look as if it were covered during the winter. Are you putting a box over it to give it some protection?
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Brian, thank you for the additional remarks!
My plant grows in a similar situation but a little bit restricted between a garden pond and a wall, i.e. in summer the place becomes relatively dry. Helleborus orientalis does excellent at the same place.
Gerd
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Carlo - No the Hellebore gets no protection, - that is just how the snow melted around it.
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Bellevalia flexuosa, probably one of the most common bulbous plant in the region.
and the much smaller B. pierides, endemic to Cyprus.
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Oron, that B.pierides is a cutie, my contribution, G.setifolia on the windowsill, all the Iris,galanthus and corydalis in the garden are now under 80cm of snow! :'(
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G.setifolia on the windowsill,
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Hristo, would you please tell what it is?
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I'm guessing Gynandriris setifolia, maybe now called Moraea setifolia?
Whatever it is it looks good.
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Spot on Rob,
This has been at least 5 years from AGS seed, and this is its first time flowering!
Maybe should be faster but it has 'moved' alot! :)
Is it officially Morarea now Rob or does it occupy that twilight zone of nomenclatural possibility? ;D
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We have had a lot of snow the last days but today it is thawing. Crocus imperati 'De Jager' has been up for a long time now but the flowers will not open. I hope for a little sunshine tomorrow.
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Thank you! :D
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Hi there,
Flowering today on the windowsill;
Brodiae jolonensis
Oxalis brasiliensis ( also out in the garden under 80cm of snow, though not flowering! )
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Rafa,
I grow Erythronium caucasicum too, but it did not flower ever.
It is a well growing however not flowering form.
Dear Franz,
I should like to greet you first. I have read your message quite late. Nevertheless,I grow a clone of Erythronium caucasicum which flower every year. I have two bulbs since 2001 but they are only two till today. In the last year they yielded some seed for the first time. I enclose not too good image here. The image however is from the last March as now I have about 70 cm of snow in my garden.
(The Erythronium in the background is E. dens-canis).
Zdenek
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Picture taken late Sunday afternoon.
Göte
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Göte, I know your winters are hard and last a long time.... but is it really still Christmas at your place? All those lights, still ???
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The official day for taking down the tree is the January 13th
Since it is still very dark in the afternoon we tend to leave the outside Christmas lights on longer.
The snow lantern is not a Christmas decoration. It is just inspired by the weather.
Göte
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The official day for taking down the tree is the January 13th
Since it is still very dark in the afternoon we tend to leave the outside Christmas lights on longer.
The snow lantern is not a Christmas decoration. It is just inspired by the weather.
Göte
Indeed, as I would expect from you, a perfectly reasonable explanation.
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Dear Zdenek,
Thanks, you are a happy gardener with a free flowering form of Erythronium caucasicum.
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Today was a beautiful sunny day, with frogs making the pond boil and birds singing like mad. I took a few photos of the flowers to show you.
Firstly, Hamamelis Diane with aconites and galanthus - Lady Elphinstone middle and James Backhouse in front.
Second is a nice seedling hellebore.
Third is Sidora in its third year in the trough.
Fourth is a old clump of spring snowflakes, happily not eaten by slugs this year.
Lastly, a view of my 'winter beds'.
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How beautiful!
And I thought, spring does not exist any more (still too much snow here :'().
Thank you Anne, it's really superb!
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Very nice indeed Anne.
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Is that another Hammamelis centrered in the last pic? It is beautiful with the light in the right place to make it glow. :)
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Anne
What beautiful combinations of plants :) :) :)
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It's a young Hammamelis Arnold's Promise. When it and Diane were the only things in flower on that bed, we thought it looked as if it was throwing its arms in the air and shouting WOOHOO in youthful exhuberance. OK, we were bored at the time. ::)
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Your garden is looking very good, Anne.... you are ahead of us....snowflakes taller and hellebores more advanced.
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Anne,
how lovely to see your garden with its beautiful spring blooms and GREEN GRASS! Very cooling after our hot summer!
cheers
fermi
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Ann, what lovely sights of a 'real spring' which is far away here.
by the way:
Is Hammamelis derived from a hammer? (Sorry, can't resist)
;D ;D ;D
Gerd
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Wonderful show Anne !!
Spring is definitely there - now just send it accross the Channel please... thank you ! ;D
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by the way:
Is Hammamelis derived from a hammer? (Sorry, can't resist)
;D ;D ;D
Gerd
You hit the nail on the head, Gerd! :)
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Ah well, I started with one m but then deferred to Lesley's greater experience!
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Anne, my deepest apologies! My spelling is at fault and I didn't notice. One m, of course. I didn't even connect with Gerd's comment. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
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great looking garden Anne. My Narcissus 'Sidora' is also in full flower. My display table at the front of the house has changed from white flowers last week to yellow this week. The first Anenome blanda are now out and saw my first bumblebee of the year.
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I can't match Anne's super display, but here is part of what we grandly call our "Winter Garden"
I think those snowies need dividing ;D
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And some Cyclamen coum that have been gradually filling up this trough over a few years
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Sorry for being the reason that nice Forum members find themselves guilty! :(
It was my aim to prevent that a wrong spelling accumulates. Honestly!
Gerd
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Beautiful images, Diane ... you must be in the Tropics! ;)
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One of my favorit annuals:
Veronica syriaca, a tiny plant that grows in enormous quantities to create Hugh carpets.
It grows in mountains with heavy soils in the upper Galilee and the Golan.
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Oron,
A beautiful splash of blue, wonderful.
Paddy
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Diane which Eranthis is that in your photos?
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Just lovely Diane!
Here is another blue annual plant from Israel:Lupinus pilosus.
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Beautiful blue! :D Nothing depressing about those!
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Diane, winter looks very nice at your house. Lovely patches of lovely plants.
Gerd, I promise you, while my spelling was wrong, I'm very happy that you drew attention to it - and in such a nice way too. I've found before that once a name is spelt wrongly, if not corrected right away, the wrong way is perpetuated, used time and time again.
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:) :) :) You are welcome, Lesley!
Otherwise I hope nobody will have a closer look at my mistakes in English grammar!
Gerd
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Diane which Eranthis is that in your photos?
Just the common E hyemalis. A low down camera shot might have made it look bigger than it is.
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In line with what Lesley said, Miriam the blue of your Lupinus pilosus has a great zing to it.
Paddy
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Gymnospermium altaicum in flower at the moment.
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Nothing to match the beauty of those veronicas, but these have opened in the last two days for me:
Everyone in the SRGC Belford Group were given a handful of bulbs to grow over the winter and bring in to the meeting for the plant table to mark the anniversary last year. I got Iris 'Gordon' but sadly couldn't go to the meeting so I've taken its picture and will take that to the meeting in March ;D
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When I bought my one and only witch hazel many years ago I didnt realise that Hammamelis mollis could become so big and have sometimes wondered if it earnt its space. Wish I could post the scent of it for the last week or so
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Oh here are a couple of eranthis
E hymalis Flora plena
E guinea gold
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Get your nose down low, Ian... you'll find the Eranthis have a lovely honey scent , as good as the witch hazel but not so powerful 8)
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Ian, before you catch the nasty bug that I had, let me remind you, kindly, that Hamamelis has ONE m not two, i.e. Hamamelis, not Hammamelis. :) See Anne's, Gerd's and my posts above.
It is definitely worth its space. I saw one in Christchurch NZ a couple of years ago which was at least 15 ft high but was underplanted with Eranthis, Cyclamen, snowdrops, trilliums and other things so that the ground was fully utilized quite apart from the witchhazel. It provided light shade when in leaf and kept the ground cool for the little spring-flowering bulbs' summer rest.
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I have H. Arnold Promise. It is now 14 years old and still only 4ft+ tall, but this year it is starting to look wonderful. Not as much scent as the species though, from all accounts. It had only been in the ground two years when it was snapped near the base by our 1998 hurricane. I used velcro to hold the base together and it rallied, and now looks very strong, but it certainly leans towards the east!
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Get your nose down low, Ian... you'll find the Eranthis have a lovely honey scent , as good as the witch hazel but not so powerful 8)
Quite right Maggi and you can see em better too
Ian, before you catch the nasty bug that I had, let me remind you, kindly, that Hamamelis has ONE m not two, i.e. Hamamelis, not Hammamelis. :) See Anne's, Gerd's and my posts above.
It is definitely worth its space. I saw one in Christchurch NZ a couple of years ago which was at least 15 ft high but was underplanted with Eranthis, Cyclamen, snowdrops, trilliums and other things so that the ground was fully utilized quite apart from the witchhazel. It provided light shade when in leaf and kept the ground cool for the little spring-flowering bulbs' summer rest.
confusing for an old fella eh and I had quite forgot the banter above silly me ??? :-[
Lesley it is underplanted with lots of things but it is now 20 ft high and competing with a similar sized Acer japonicum aureum (or whatever it is the have decided to call it now)
I have H. Arnold Promise. It is now 14 years old and still only 4ft+ tall, but this year it is starting to look wonderful. Not as much scent as the species though, from all accounts. It had only been in the ground two years when it was snapped near the base by our 1998 hurricane. I used velcro to hold the base together and it rallied, and now looks very strong, but it certainly leans towards the east!
I was very tempted when I saw Arnold recently so lovely but where will I find the space ???
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and it rallied, and now looks very strong, but it certainly leans towards the east!
Looking for a star perhaps? :)
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The double eranthis is nice. I hadn't realised aconites were scented, I get on my knees tomorrow and investigate.
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Ian, before you catch the nasty bug that I had, let me remind you, kindly, that Hamamelis has ONE m not two, i.e. Hamamelis, not Hammamelis. :) See Anne's, Gerd's and my posts above.
Lesley !!!
Hamamelis has TWO m's Hamamelis. ;D ;D ;D
Göte
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You win Gote. :)
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Gymnospermium altaicum in flower at the moment.
Very nice, Tony. I wonder how long I'll have to wait for mine to get so full?
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Get your nose down low, Ian... you'll find the Eranthis have a lovely honey scent , as good as the witch hazel but not so powerful 8)
What????
I cannot have my witch hazel in a vase indoors it stinks :P
(virginiana)
Göte
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Get your nose down low, Ian... you'll find the Eranthis have a lovely honey scent , as good as the witch hazel but not so powerful 8)
What????
I cannot have my witch hazel in a vase indoors it stinks :P
(virginiana)
Göte
Hmm, yes, I see that point.... I spoke of the Chinese Witch Hazel, Hamamelis mollis.... which has a pleasant scent. :D