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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Hans J on December 14, 2008, 09:12:06 AM

Title: Acis tingitana
Post by: Hans J on December 14, 2008, 09:12:06 AM
Hi all ,

in this days is flowering in my greenhouse :

    Acis tingitana
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Gerdk on December 14, 2008, 10:33:08 AM
Stunning pics, Hans. Is flowering in December normal for this species?

Gerd
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Hans J on December 14, 2008, 10:52:16 AM
Gerd :

the last time it flowers in January - may be it is in this season a bit early !
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Paul T on December 14, 2008, 10:53:59 AM
Hans,

There is a purity about that species that seems to outshine the other species of Acis.  I just love it.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Martin Baxendale on December 14, 2008, 12:01:23 PM
Beautiful, Hans. I assume it is in a pot? What is your growing regime for it? And how hardy? I think I have some small bulbs in a pot that I chipped a few years ago and am still waiting for them to get to flowering size.
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Michael on December 14, 2008, 12:26:08 PM
Lovely Hans, never heard of this one before!!
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Hans J on December 14, 2008, 01:12:26 PM
Beautiful, Hans. I assume it is in a pot? What is your growing regime for it? And how hardy? I think I have some small bulbs in a pot that I chipped a few years ago and am still waiting for them to get to flowering size.

Martin ,

Yes it is in a pot -I take it outside from my greenhouse yesterday for a pic .
In my greenhouse is in winter a minimum of +5° - I water this plants from September until March -in summer they are dry in my greenhouse in shade .
They are easy -no problem !
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Hans J on December 14, 2008, 01:14:47 PM
Lovely Hans, never heard of this one before!!

Michael :
Maybe you know it under the old name : Leucojum tingitanum
I would suggest you Acis species for your collection - I think they are better for you than snowdrops.
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Alberto on December 14, 2008, 01:45:29 PM
Hans fine pictures of a marvellous bulb!


Ciao
Alberto


Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Martin Baxendale on December 14, 2008, 02:24:37 PM
By the way, could someone tell me how Acis is pronounced. Since I never have much time to get out and about and meet other gardeners, and since Acis is a new genus, I've never heard anyone pronounce it. I think I know how I'd say it in a classical Latin pronunciation, but it might be Greek derived or be named after a place of person (e.g. botanist) with a completely different pronunciation. So, to those who already know, sorry for sounding like a dumbo, but how do the rest of you (who do get to shows etc) say it? Having said all that, I still can't help thinking of them as Leucojum.   :-\
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Hans J on December 14, 2008, 02:46:06 PM
Martin ,

Sorry I can not help you with pronoucing it in your language - I call it : A -zis

To Acis - please look here in PBS :
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Acis

there is written that the name Acis is older than Leucojum
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Alberto on December 14, 2008, 03:09:59 PM
it could be: a as in car, there is not equivalent for c, the more close is as  ch of church, i as in kis, and s as in kis

Alberto
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Hans J on December 14, 2008, 03:38:04 PM
Alberto ,

Yes you are rigth : it is Akis
look what I have found :

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acis_und_Galatea

no wonder that Alberto knows the rigth pronoucion ....Akis was on Sicily ( Italy )  8)
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Lvandelft on December 14, 2008, 05:08:29 PM
Beautiful Acis Hans!

For those 'few' reading English, they might try Acis and Galatea.  ;)
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: ArneM on December 14, 2008, 07:44:14 PM
Today the pronunciation of the Latin 'c' is always like an English 'c' of car for example. In German this is similar to 'k'.
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Martin Baxendale on December 14, 2008, 08:05:34 PM
Today the pronunciation of the Latin 'c' is always like an English 'c' of car for example. In German this is similar to 'k'.

Yes, I was assuming it should be pronounced 'akkiss', as in the current accepted 'English'-taught Latin style of pronunciation. But we've had discussions about Latin pronunciation before! Also, English gardeners do some odd things with Latin names - e.g. Acer should strictly speaking be pronounced 'Akker' but everyone I know (English gardeners, that is) say 'Aesser'. I suppose Acis hasn't been around in common use for long enough to be Anglicised yet, so I'll go along with Akkiss. My initial reaction on seeeing it, though, thanks to our English pronunciation of Acer was to say 'Aessis'.  But 'Akkiss' it is.  :-[
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Martin Baxendale on December 14, 2008, 08:07:41 PM
Actually, I think 'Aessis' sounds nicer than 'Akkiss', and Leucojum runs off the tongue easier than either. I think it'll be a while before I start thinking of them as Acis, I'm sorry to say.
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Diane Clement on December 14, 2008, 08:15:05 PM
I suppose Acis hasn't been around in common use for long enough to be Anglicised yet, so I'll go along with Akkiss. My initial reaction on seeeing it, though, thanks to our English pronunciation of Acer was to say 'Aessis'.  But 'Akkiss' it is. 

Acis as a genus hasn't been around very long.  But in musical circles, the oratorio Acis and Galatea has been known and sung for some time (see previous Wikipedia link)  and in those circles (in the UK anyway), it is pronounced
Ay-sis.  I think Ack-is is probably more "correct" but it's hard to break habits

 
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Maggi Young on December 14, 2008, 08:18:58 PM
Actually, I think 'Aessis' sounds nicer than 'Akkiss', and Leucojum runs off the tongue easier than either. I think it'll be a while before I start thinking of them as Acis, I'm sorry to say.
...but, do you say loocojum or loocoyum, Martin ?   ;)
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Martin Baxendale on December 14, 2008, 09:12:17 PM
Acis as a genus hasn't been around very long.  But in musical circles, the oratorio Acis and Galatea has been known and sung for some time (see previous Wikipedia link)  and in those circles (in the UK anyway), it is pronounced Ay-sis.  I think Ack-is is probably more "correct" but it's hard to break habits

Good to see the seeds of confusion are already sown.   ;D   

Maggi, Loocojum. You?
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Maggi Young on December 14, 2008, 10:47:19 PM
Loocojum, Martin  ;D After all, the BD and I are founder members of the Loocojocks Appreciation Society and it wouldn't have the same ring if we were loocoyocks..... we are ,similarly , members of the locojocks club, for mildly deranged Scots folks... los of people confuse these two august societies, as I'm sure you know  :-X
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: Anthony Darby on December 15, 2008, 12:08:17 AM
It's all Greek to me! ;)
Title: Re: Acis tingitana
Post by: dominique on December 15, 2008, 07:00:03 AM
thank you Hans. I have it but not seen bloom yet. I pronounced Acis as assis and sometimes axis 'ak-ssis' because i find better to hear in french but akis is better for the scientific international and historical reason
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