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Specific Families and Genera => Primula => Topic started by: Thomas Huber on September 01, 2008, 11:26:54 AM

Title: Primula September
Post by: Thomas Huber on September 01, 2008, 11:26:54 AM
Another mystery plant:
This beauty is flowering now in my garden. The label is not easy to identify (written by a friend)
it looks like P. trushbyi but a google search for this name was not successful.
Any better suggestions?

edited to change thread title. M
Title: Primula September
Post by: ranunculus on September 01, 2008, 11:31:27 AM
Hi Thomas,
Possibly Primula rusbyi?
Title: Re: Re: Primula September
Post by: Thomas Huber on September 01, 2008, 01:04:33 PM
Hi Thomas,
Possibly Primula rusbyi?

Yes, Cliff, this sounds good. Google photos match with my plant - thanks!!!
Title: Re: Re: Primula September
Post by: Giles on September 01, 2008, 06:04:09 PM
P.rusbyi usually flowers late May/early June ?
Title: Re: Re: Primula September
Post by: ranunculus on September 01, 2008, 07:29:53 PM
Hi Giles,
Stella and David at Kevock Garden Plants list P. rusbyi as follows:-

Primula rusbyi comes from around 3000 m in New Mexico and Arizona, states that are dry and hot in summer at lower altitudes. It is deciduous,and does not appear until one fears that it has gone for ever. Then it rapidly produces its mealy leaves and the stems carrying half a dozen or more large, bright red-pink, yellow-eyed flowers. We grow it under glass, but it is reputed to do well outside, well watered but also well drained.

As Thomas is growing this in Germany then I suspect he may encounter conditions more akin to New Mexico (where it blooms in July/August) than Malvern.

Title: Primula September
Post by: Maggi Young on September 01, 2008, 09:01:41 PM
Quite apart from climatic differences, it is often the case that young plants will produce flowers at odd seasons, further muddying the waters.... for instance, I found a very young hellebore flowering today :-X
Title: Primula September
Post by: Thomas Huber on September 02, 2008, 10:11:22 AM
Cliff, it's good that I didn't know about their home - I would never have expected to
imitate New Mexican climate in my garden. It's the third year here and the first flowers.
Title: Primula September
Post by: Giles on September 11, 2008, 07:10:51 PM
(I don't know why they are flowering now)
P.elatior meyeri
P.magasiefolia
P.halleri
P.recubariensis (I think this is wrong)
Title: Primula September
Post by: Maggi Young on September 11, 2008, 07:27:28 PM
Friends, you will see that I have started this September page !
Title: Primula September
Post by: David Nicholson on September 11, 2008, 07:31:56 PM
On Primula recubariensis John Richards says "....a stem which does not exceed the short broad leaves. Distinguished from P. hirsuta by the lilac-violet flowers borne in groups of 2-5, a strong resinous scent......"

Does it have a scent Giles?

Title: Primula September
Post by: David Nicholson on September 11, 2008, 07:36:15 PM
Ah! now I see, how very efficient Maggi! ;D  Could you also move please my recent response to Giles' query about Primula recubariensis.
Title: Primula September
Post by: Maggi Young on September 11, 2008, 07:41:35 PM
Ah! now I see, how very efficient Maggi! ;D  Could you also move please my recent response to Giles' query about Primula recubariensis.
I think you will find I have done that very thing, David!
Title: Primula September
Post by: David Nicholson on September 11, 2008, 07:42:33 PM
Flowering now, and it really shouldn't be is my Primula 'Blue Wave'. In National Auricula and Primula Society terms this plant is sometimes shown as a x pubescens and sometimes as a Border Auricula. I have a number of  open pollinated seedlings from this plant that should flower next year.

Title: Re: Primula September
Post by: Maggi Young on September 11, 2008, 07:55:51 PM
I love these out of season flowers! Liking the Blue Wave, David... lovely farina
Title: Re: Primula September
Post by: Giles on September 11, 2008, 08:00:45 PM
David,
The plant is minute (about 1/2 inch in diameter).
It's the wrong colour (pink rather than lilac)
It smell of an auricula rather than 'resinous'
It's quite dainty, and I will love it (whatever it is).
Title: Re: Primula September
Post by: David Nicholson on September 11, 2008, 09:35:16 PM
P. hirsuta?? ???
Title: Re: Primula September
Post by: Giles on September 12, 2008, 02:50:09 PM
I have so many plants that haven't turned out what they are meant to be, I despair.
Sometimes they are even the wrong Genus!
Title: Re: Primula September
Post by: Diane Clement on September 12, 2008, 03:46:21 PM
A good web site to check Primula species, with lots of good pictures, Pam Eveleigh's Primula World

http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/photogallery.htm

Title: Re: Primula September
Post by: olegKon on September 15, 2008, 09:29:19 AM
An accidental autumn flower of Primula auricula in the garden yesterday (sorry about the quality)
Title: Re: Primula September
Post by: Giles on September 18, 2008, 01:48:22 PM
Here's a weird one for you:
Primula septemloba (reminds me of a Heuchera!)
Title: Re: Primula September
Post by: Giles on September 18, 2008, 07:05:49 PM
It had been suggested the above was actually a Cortusa.
A 'P.jesoana' from an AGS show did actually turn out to be a Cortusa when it flowered earlier in the year.
I compare the 2 plants together, along with a Cortusa photo from the web.
The Cortusa is more 'star' like, the Primula 'bell' lke. I'm convinced even if you're not!
Title: Re: Primula September
Post by: Giles on September 18, 2008, 08:31:00 PM
Apparently the proper way to sort out Cortusas from Primulas is to see where the filaments are attached.
In Cortusa's the filaments are attached at the bottom of the corolla, whereas in Primula's they're attached further out.
I pulled a flower apart - it's definitely a primula.
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