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Title: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Alberto on August 23, 2008, 04:59:30 PM
Hi all, in these days after a really hot summer and a lot of artificial rain, I have this hybrid blooming. Usually I do not like hybrids, but this is one of a few exceptions...
It is an old hybrid created in UK around 1880's, H. reticulatum var. striatifolium x H. 'Defiance'. 4-6 flowers each floral scape, two scapes per bulb. It is evergreen with a white stripe in the middle of the strape-shaped leaves.
Alberto
Italy
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Renate Brinkers on August 23, 2008, 05:50:36 PM
Alberto,
great - there is someone who has a flowering `Mrs Garfield´!!!
Is it true that there is a difference in the middelstripe of the leafes to the leafes of H.ret.var.striatifolium?
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Alberto on August 23, 2008, 06:27:26 PM
Renate, the white stripe is defined in reticulatum var. striatifolium, while in Mrs. Garfield the color is like a fade. The shape of the leaves is different, in Mrs. Garfield it is like the common Hippeastrum, in the species the leaves are a bit oblanceolate.
Alberto
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Thomas Huber on August 23, 2008, 08:27:26 PM
 :o  :o  :o
What a great plant, Alberto!
Is this the standard flowering time ???
My Hippeastrums are all flowering in January - March!
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Armin on August 23, 2008, 09:47:31 PM
Ciao Alberto,
a wunderful flower.  :D
I agree with Thomas. Is this the normal flowering time?
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: johnw on August 24, 2008, 12:44:01 AM
:o  :o  :o
What a great plant, Alberto!
Is this the standard flowering time ???
My Hippeastrums are all flowering in January - March!

Thomas - H. striatum just finished here. It blooms every 2 months in a good year (not one bulb but mulitple bulbs in a pot). Never allowed to dry out.

johnw
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Alberto on August 24, 2008, 08:08:26 AM
Hi Thomas, this is the right season for reticulatum, indeed from now onwards. Just a little period with less watering at the end of spring!
Here is the picture to show the leaves: on the left the leaf of Mrs. Garfield,on the right the one  of reticulatum var. striatifolium.
Alberto
Italy
 
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Hans J on September 09, 2008, 01:09:14 PM
Alberto ,

It seems I have also both ( H.'Mrs. Garfield' + H. ret. striatifolium )

here is a pic of the leaves from today :

do you agree with me me above is H.'Mrs. Garfield ' ( bought on Ebay )
and below is H. ret. striatifolium ( from a friend received )  ???
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Alberto on September 12, 2008, 05:32:46 PM
Hans, looking at the leaves of your bulbs they do not look the real striatifolium, almost with me.

Sincerely
Alberto
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Hans J on September 12, 2008, 06:40:14 PM
Alberto ,

Thank you for your opinion ....but what is it ?

Do you agree that the leave above is Mrs. Garfield ?

Thank you
Hans
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Alberto on October 13, 2008, 12:49:11 PM
Hi all. Hans J. asked me at the flowering time to pollinate my Hipp. Mrs. Garfield to see what the seeds look like. After one month the last pod yellowed and fallen without complete ripening. But I open it and the seeds I can say they look just like the flat ones of the commonest Hippeastrum and not pea like as in H. reticulatum or in Eithea blumenavia (syn. H. blumenavium). I'd like to know if the shape of seeds is enough to separate in different genera!
Ciao
Alberto
 
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: akoen on December 03, 2008, 11:46:39 AM
Oh, what a beauty. :o
Is there anyone who can tell me where to get seeds?
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Alberto on December 03, 2008, 12:30:43 PM
As it is an hybrid it is impossible to get seeds. I had the bulbs  from Thailand, purchasing on ebay. I think it is not the right time now!

Alberto


Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Hans J on December 03, 2008, 01:07:36 PM
Hi Anne ,

You could ask for bulbs of Hipp. 'Mrs. Garfield'  our member Renate Brinkers !

Best wishes
Hans
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Michael on December 03, 2008, 02:50:05 PM
Wohoooo!!!  ;D

I thought that mine was Mrs. Garfiled, but now that i see the difference of both, i guess it is the species, as the leaves are highly oblanceolate, and the stripe on the center is white, and not faded! :D :D
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Hans J on December 03, 2008, 03:09:29 PM
Michael :

the only safe way to say this is to wait for seeds  ;D
I have seen only one time real seeds of H. reticulatum v. striatifloium -they really impressiv : litte black ,round fleshy seeds .

Greetings
Hans
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: akoen on December 03, 2008, 11:42:02 PM
Hi Anne ,

You could ask for bulbs of Hipp. 'Mrs. Garfield'  our member Renate Brinkers !

Best wishes
Hans

Norway requires a phytosanitary certificate for bulbs. It is easier with seeds.
But I have found seeds of Hippeastrum reticulatum striatifolium
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: fermi de Sousa on December 04, 2008, 12:20:22 AM
While in Goa at a cousin's house for dinner one night last week, I noticed an interesting plant in the garden. Unfortunately it needed the flash for the pic which has washed out the colour a bit.
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I presume it's  "Mrs Garfield" but would never have realised it except for this thread!
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Michael on December 04, 2008, 10:22:30 AM
Well Hans, at least you have seen those seeds... I never have seen them :D
I shall wait for seeds from my own plant to see if it is the true thing or not. I wonder why the seeds of this one are so different from the rest of the genus Hippeastrum...

Fermi, very nice clump, to get one colony of those from a single bulb i guess it might take decades!
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Maggi Young on December 04, 2008, 10:39:09 AM
Fermi, your cousi has very good taste in plants.... though I would have guessed that, of course!!

From the leaves, though, and guided purely by the previous pix and words on this thread....I would have thought that this was more Hippeastrum reticulatum striatifolium than 'Mrs Garfield'.... the white stripe looks very definite and the leaves more elongated ????????   The plant is bigger/taller, than I expected.... very nice indeed!!
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Paul T on December 05, 2008, 11:06:08 AM
Beautiful, Fermi.  Such a shame you couldn't bring one home for yourself.  ::)  Maybe they can keep an eye out for seed?  Would be well worth it for those leaves alone by the look of it.
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Renate Brinkers on December 07, 2008, 10:02:24 AM
Hi fermi,

an impressive clump of great plants. Maybe you can visit them again when they set seed.
I am so courious to see the seed of mine - when they flower again. Last year they flowered but didn´t setted seed.
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Michael on December 07, 2008, 03:20:30 PM
This is mine (still hoping for the true thing!  ;D )
On the second picture you can see an old leaf, that unfortunately got sunburnt before i had moved the plant to a more shady spot. And it is oblanceolate, like Alberto told the true species was, and these new leaves when stop growing will look like that one. But still... waiting for the flowers AND seeds!

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o38/Jindegales/December20083_0010.jpg)

(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o38/Jindegales/December20083_0013.jpg)
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Ezeiza on January 10, 2009, 01:38:20 AM
Hi Michael:

                This species can live perfectly in shade but demand high temperatures. The reason why seeds are round is that there are very few ovules in the ovary. At one time it was thought to be in some other genus.

                 It is also unusual in being summer dormant, very few species have this behaviour. It flowers naturally in autumn, at the beginning of the cycle.

Regards
Alberto
Title: Re: Hippeastrum Mrs. Garfield
Post by: Michael on January 12, 2009, 07:56:07 PM
Thanks Alberto, i will keep it hot and steamy then inside the greenhouse :)
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