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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: Anthony Darby on February 02, 2007, 06:58:40 PM
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No pics. Too sad after the meeces bit through one of my Narcissus hedraeanthus flower stalks and chomped a bit out of the other's flower last night :'( Still, happy Groundhog Day to those across the pond. Did the beasty see his shadow today?
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Anthony, on the TV news there was film of the local "worthies" dressed up like eejits, dragging the poor critter out of his den, holding him up like a parcel and showing him off to the assembled crowds... mostly journos, I think, and plonking the benighted beast on a barrel top to see if said shadow was being cast... cries of, "can't see for all the flashbulbs "....
So, your guess is as good as mine!
It was Australia day recently,I don't suppose they hauled Rolf Harris out of a hole and held him up to the light?
No? I thought not.
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Post by Anne Wright, moved from January page! Anthony Darby was being cheeky!...
"Is it February or is my calendar fast? "
Anne wrote: Here are a couple of new delights - the hellebore is a seedling from Ashwoods seed, and the ravishing anemone has been wonderful in the sun, like blood red velvet.
Yellow seedling from Ashwood seed.
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Anemone bordeaux
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The groundhog didn't impress Bill Murray much either ;D Cheeky? Moi? Wash your mouth out lassie!
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Anne - that Anemone Bordeaux really has a lovely rich red colour - thank you for showing it.
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Last week it snowed - this week it is spring again .... or am I dreaming?
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And under glass all sorts of things are stirring. Last month I posted a pic of a little Hyacinthella in the garden ... I named it wrong :-[ Now that it has grown up a bit I can see it is Hyacinthella millingrenii, pictured below on the right. In the same shot is the plant I grow as Hyacinthella atchleyi. The latter does OK outside too and I like it better for its open mouthed, subtlely blue flowers.
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Them's lovely Tony.
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Fantastic sunny weather today, but the ground and pots remained frozen - I thought the mosses looked cute half melted! The scent in the alpine (bulb) house was wonderful so I stayed in there most of the time playing at being a bee with my daffs. Fantastic sunset tonight, so hope the weather will be good tomorrow too.
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I hope you have good weather tomorrow,verry nice sunset. We have nice weather this week-end, here two Asarums flowering in the greenhouse:
first A.megacalyx and A.splendens
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Those are fantastic flowers Chris. What amazing texture. I have A. splendens but not flowered yet. I just love the marbled foliage.
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Great to come back after a few days down in Glasgow and catch up with the forum postings.
The gardens I was looking at were all new start up gardens, part of a radio program I do work for, so there is nothing to show but a lot of nice weeds.
But I was put up in a hotel with a great view over the River Clyde to the site that housed the National Garden Festival in 1986/ish. 1988??
I amused myself by taking some pictures through my hotel room window with my oldest compact digital camera to see how far I could push it.
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Chris,
The asarum are beautiful, fabulous.
I grow A. caudatum and A. europeum in the garden and they do very well, self-seeding generously. Must add some of these nice ones.
Paddy
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Reposted here from Hellebore page.
Post by Michael Campbell, who wrote: Some Romuleas in in bloom in the garden today. I thought these plants were not hardy, they are enjoying at the frost
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An interesting starry flowered Heleborus niger that I got at B&Q.
When I washed off the roots before I planted it I discovered that it was not one plant but four seedlings.
I wonder what the others will turn out like.
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I like your Glasgow shots Ian. In fact, for a lassie whose ancestry is all Scottish, it would be great to see more of any and all parts of Scotland from posters who live north of the border.
I also like the hellebore seedling. It almost looks as if it would be a hybrid between hellebore and hepatica. Now there's a nice little project for someone.
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I to like the Hellebore with his open flower, Helleborus and Hepatica are both Ranunculacea but I dont think you can make crossings with both plants.
Lesley I like the marbled leaves to, Asarum maximum have also marbled leaves but the flower steals the show I think, it is not for nothing that they called it the panda flower, here a picture from a plant I sow 3 years ago
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A lovely three-eyed panda Chris. Thanks for showing it. We don't have many Asarums here but I'll have to look for more I think.
The hellebore x hepatica comment was tongue-in-cheek but all the same, maybe it would be possible using chemicals to start off the process. Can't odd things like that be done with colchicine? But I'm no chemist or geneticist of course.
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Ian, A very striking photo of Squinty Bridge and a testament to your 'old camera'. Also an interesting Hellebore, it's amazing what turns up in garden centres etc. these days.
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Thought you might like to see my first tulip of the year, Tulipa orthopoda. This is the first time of flowering of this species for me so I am not sure just how far ahead it is.
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For me, in the garden, to make the link with your photos, it's the time of Helleborus atrorubens ex Slovenia, which replace H. purpurascens, finishing.
I love the Hyacinthellas you show Tony ! I don't know where it is possible to find seeds, but I have Scilla aristides, from Algeria, bought in dutch trade
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Welcome to the forum Mike, hope this is the first of many plants.
There was an interesting variation in the heleborus niger on offer, £2.48 a plant and as I got 4 in the pot only 62pence each.
I have always been amazed by the quality I get from my first 1.3Mpixel digital camera John. I am about to by a new compact that will fit easily in my pocket and can be carried all the time but I will never part with the old Olympus Camedia C-960 not that any one would want to buy it any way.
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the Panda flower is 5 cm wide, Asarum asaroides wil also that big when it is open, Asarum kumugeanum is only 1.5cm wide
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All so interesting Chris. Please show the A. asaroides when it's open.
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Fabulous flowers, Chris.
Maggi, Looking back to your posting of the 2nd, I am delighted to see you use so effectively a word which I had to now thought to be exclusively Irish -'eejit'. Brilliant word, perfectly expressive.
Paddy
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Paddy, we Scots may have all but lost our Gaelic, though, in truth, the vast majority of us never had it to lose, so had no inkling as to your house name ( thanks for that, by the way!) but we use "eejit" a good deal... most likely on account of our (self) perceived superiority!
It's snowing again here, so not much chance this week of Aberdeen catching up with all you folks with so many flowers out !
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Funny, I always thought "eejit" was an Australian word. I guess it's a case of wherever the cap fits. NOT suggesting it fits better on Aussies than on others, just that there are some, everywhere.
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We only know "eejit' from watching re-runs of "Father Ted" on TV....and other words which we won't mention here!
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
You have then received a broad Irish education. 'Fr. Ted' will bring you up to speed with Irish expression.
And those other words which are unmentionable for you just add spice and variety to language.
Paddy
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Father Jack is one of my heroes. ;D
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only just realised this was here. Too much time spent in the Galanthus and Crocus parts
Eranthis 'Guinea Gold' showing why it's got that name and one I saw in England E. 'Pauline'
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What can yo you tell us about E. Pauline's provenance, Mark? Great colour, totally unexpected shade for an eranthis!
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in a word, no. It appears when googled but mainly on French and German sites http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=eranthis+pauline&meta= (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=eranthis+pauline&meta=) It appears in the AGS bulletin 56
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Thanks for this, Mark. The pix I found on the continental sites, following your start, showed a pale yellowish flower, while the one you show is a lovely pink. The plant received a Preliminary Commendation from the Joint Rock Plant Committee in January 1988., tying in with the googled pages telling of its receipt from the Petersfield garden of Mrs Dale in that year. Here is the gist of what Mrs Patricia Dale wrote about Eranthis 'Pauline'in the AGS bulletin : "In 1986, amongst a large naturalised planting of Eranthis hyemalis, a clump of a different shade was observed. This had mature flowers of a warm but very pale yellow much like RHS Hort. colour chart 8D. The following year, a part of this clump was lifted in tight bud and the flowers artificially pollinated.Subsequent seedlings have grown well, but it is doubtful if they will perpetuatethe new colour break."
So it seems, if your photo is true to the colour of the flower as you saw it, that nowadays 'Pauline ' has become more pink in tone.
Does anyone know if this plant is available in commerce?
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Great Eranthis Mark and I agree with Maggi - Pauline looks surprising and very beautiful indeed. Never seen anything like it !
My Eranthis are still safely (?) underground 8)
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the group of plants was stunning but now I'm wondering if I cant remember what the true colour was. I'll look up the RHS colour when I get hime
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Whenever it snows its creates a primeval beast in the garden. But if it's wet snow it ruins the plant till new growth comes
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Hi, first posting to the new forum. It seems my old login has gone the way of all flesh and dionysias...hopefully I've managed to attach a pic of Cyclamen coum forma albumissum that I grew from Cyclamen Society seed. What you can't see are the dark pink flowers mixed in, even so I really pleased with them. I'm promising myself to split the pot and see how many white ones I have. Mark
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Welcome back Mark, it's good to have you back on board. Nice plant too.
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RHS Colour Chart shows 8D as a pale creamy yellow. I'll take a photo of it the first day I have in the garden
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Very much looking forward to that one Mark !
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Taken just before the frost is Daphne bholua Jacqueline Postill, which I got as a Christmas present 2005. I am surprised by how much growth it has made in one season. It doesn't appear to have been damaged by the frost and the perfume is divine.
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John is your Daphne in a pot please?
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John,
Re Daphne bholua' Jacqueline Postill': have you had the experience of walking in the garden in the evening and getting this incredibly beautiful scent and wondering from what it was coming? The first release from the daphne. It's a great experience, I think.
Paddy
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Hi, my second posting here. Now I go for multiple images! So hopefully in this order, Primula allionii Elizabeth Burrow, a Cyclamen persicum from Cyclamen Society seed, the parent was spectacularly silver patterned, this one hasn't inherited that but has come out a sort of sage green and a Cyclamen pseudo-ibericum, again from seed. Mark
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Hi, Mark, nice to see these pix. That lovely P. allionii just hits the right spot. I was thinking the other day that surely someone out there must have some coming into flower and , hey, presto, yours arrives! Makes me feel like spring cannot be too far away, even with the wintery weather we're having at the moment. Very cheering, and, of course, I never met a cyclamen I didn't like ;D
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Mark, we'd like to know a little more about you, and while a visit to your website helps, could I ask you if you'd be so good as to make a post in "Let me introduce myself" to do just that?
Here's the page: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12.120
Cheers, Maggi
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David, The Daphne came in a pot as the present but was planted straight away in the only place available next to a large Magnolia Leonard Messel. I would have liked it next to the back door for scent but alas not even a shoe horn could get it in.
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Forgot to post this Scilla amoena grown from AGS seed. Didn't think about the effect of taking a blue flower against a blue sky, when I bent down to a get the view from beneath.
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Mark,
Personally, unlike Maggi, I could live without the primula but adore the cyclamen esp C. pseudibericum, a real beauty.
John, love the scilla.
Paddy
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Two leucojums and a muscari from the garden - well, Leucojum vernum is in the open garden, while Leucojum roseum and Muscari 'Golden Fleece' are growing in a cold glasshouse.
Paddy
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I don't know about east and west but I'm beginning to think it's not true that "never the twain shall meet" so far as north and south are concerned. Following some rain last week, my Leucoium roseum is up and in bud. Be just a few days before it opens.
I've always spelt it with an "i" rather than a "j" but I suppose we have to call it Acis now anyway.
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Lesley,
You have come in a very timely manner to the assistance of my failing brain. 'Acis' it is. I had been trying to think of the new name and it wouldn't come to me.
This flowering of A. roseum is out of season for me as I had flowers last autumn.
Always with a 'j' here.
Paddy
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Ah yes Acis... but should that be Axis, Acksis, Ache-is, Akiss etc etc... how are we to say the ruddy thing without getting into bother with some classicist somewhere?
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apologies for the pink Eranthis 'Pauline' I think I was blinded by the extreme white light coming off the snowdrops. (evil laugh) I now have a plant of 'Pauline' and can assure everyone it is pale yella
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I did wonder if 'Pauline' was blushing slightly in her first photo! You can see in this new pic that there is a hint of pink, even there. She is very pretty and a lovely transition between the yellows and the whites of pinnatifida and stellata.
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Here are a few pictures of presently flowers in my garden
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Franz looks fantastic are many of many of the meadow plants self sown?
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Ian,
More as 50% are self sown. Thanks
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Beuatiful Franz, just beautiful. If I can grow a garden like that one day it will make me very happy :) :) :)
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Thanks for the many nice pictures
Here are some picture of what is in flower in Portugal
A white magnolia the first of "ours" mothers-in-law´s
A rose that is the last of last years flowers. new shots are already coming
A calla with and without my hand as a size reference
And the last hibiscus from the balcony.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Tony, thanks for your compliment, but it grow only this plants that like the condition of the meadow and not the plant what I would like.
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This was my 5th attempt to post the pics.
Luckely it worked.
It really is the time for magnolias and callas in Potrugal now.
It is also time for some of the irises to do a winter/spring bloom but not mine. :)
Joakim
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Franz, your meadow is beautiful!
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Franz, I particularly like the cyclamen growing on the edge of your meadow, although the whole area looks fantastic. How many years has it taken you to get the meadow looking like this?
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Franz,
Your style of flowering meadow is seen very rarely here. It is a special treat to view your photographs. You have created a wonderful garden. Many thanks,
Paddy
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Franz you have probably found natures secret in that plants which have the right conditions will grow well. It must take great care from you to paint such a beautiful and natural picture. I must try harder
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Franz, your pictures are amazing. The cyclamen and crocus together is awesome!
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Franz, you're leaving me flabbergasted !
What a show !
One question - what's the beautiful white and dark blue crocus in the midst of the fabulous group of Iris Katharine Hodgkin (foto spring 3) ?
Thanks for sharing !
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Hi, my second posting here. Now I go for multiple images! So hopefully in this order, Primula allionii Elizabeth Burrow, a Cyclamen persicum from Cyclamen Society seed, the parent was spectacularly silver patterned, this one hasn't inherited that but has come out a sort of sage green and a Cyclamen pseudo-ibericum, again from seed. Mark
Nice allionii Mark, is Elizabeth Burrow usually an early flowered varity? I usually manage to kill allionii either during the summer or rotting off during the winter but this year I have two plants with small buds on them. I must be learning something!! :-\
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Thanks everybody - great you like my garden. It were the self seedlings of different bulbs that myself on the idea brought to make a flower meadow. It has taken 15 years to get the meadow looking like this.
Luc, the white is Crocus chrysanthus Ard Schenk ?.
The blue is Crocus sieberi ssp. sieberi which has a great colour variation.
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That is a super variant of C. sieberi ssp sieberi Franz, usually much softer purple. In fact I wondered if that was the one that interested Luc. There seemed to be 2 dark and white, one with dark edge to the petals and one with dark centre stripe. I have seedlings of `Ard Schenk' from Thomas' seed. Hope at least some are reasonably true.
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Lesley, you are right it is another seedling.
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Lesley was right Franz - it was the C. siberie ssp siberie I meant !
It's an absolute stunner ! What a formidable flower.
Thanks for the close-up (and everything else !) Franz !
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Great meadow, Franz. I really like that sieberi sieberi.
Just a couple of things from today. The Daphne bholua is great value, flowering over a long period and with a delicious scent. Strategically placed near the back door of the house it just has to be admired on passing. The Iris 'Katharine Hodgkin' is also a favourite of mine, just about getting to its best now (a bit later than some previous posts). And a pic of some Leucojocks to counter the perceived overabundance of those other little white jobs elsewhere. ;D :D
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Dave, Ian is cheering your Leucojocks!
Oh, to smell that Daphne!
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Aye, Maggi, I thought the BD would smile. I wish I could preserve the Daphne smell for whenever a lift to the spirit is needed - according to another thread, we will be back to rain tomorrow, so could need that lift sooner, drat it. A few years ago I was lucky enough to see D bholua in the wild. The scent beneath the forest canopy was just wonderful. Among the pines etc were also Magnolia campbellii and Rhodo arboreum, plus lots more.
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Dave:A few years ago I was lucky enough to see D bholua in the wild. The scent beneath the forest canopy was just wonderful. Among the pines etc were also Magnolia campbellii and Rhodo arboreum, plus lots more.
Maggi....sigh, sigh....... bliss!
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Dave, Thanks. Please what is a Leucojocks?
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Franz, while everyone is so excited about Galanthus, Ian Young said that he thought it a shame that Leucojum were being passed over, so he said that we should have a name for those who champion the Leucojums, so, instead of Galanthophiles, these people and the pet name of the plants , are Leucojocks. "jocks" are also a joke name for scottish people, so it is a double joke for the Scots here.
I am sorry that we are using idiomatic phrases that are tricky for those with english as their second ( or third ) language.
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Maggi, Thank you. Never mind!
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As they are being mentioned here are a gaggle of leucojocks that have mustered in my garden
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Ian nice combination of leuco and cyclamen is it You who chosed it or was it them?
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Apologies Franz, it was very inconsiderate of me.
The plant is Leucojum vernum
Dave
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Dave, it is OK. I learned something.
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Jaokim it was me but both seem to like it and the cyclamena re seeding well
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Well done Ian :)
What cyclamen is it? Nice foliage on them. Hope the seedlings also have that colour.
Joakim
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Thanks Joakim its Cyclamen coum "Nymans" it is a seed strain which reproduces the colour and leaf form well
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Only have one shoot so hasn't multiplied Sheila Ann Germaney
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Thank goodnes for Sheila Ann! I was beginning to think this thread had been leucojacked ::)
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Here is my first tulip.
The flower diamameter is almost the same as the hight of the whole plant.
Joakim
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Going back a little to Ian's pic of `Sheila Ann Germaney,' Ian, dig the lady up and remove the rice-grain babies and plant them a little way from the mother bulb. They will then grow on but not if left with her. It's some built in reaction to the need to replace the parent if damaged, but not, if all is well with the mature bulb. But if your main bulb is in a warm place, try her in a cooler, damper place. Like the parent winogradowii, she likes the moister conditions, as does `Katharine Hodgkin.' Probably `Frank Elder' too, but I haven't grown that so can't say from personal experience.
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Lesley that's very interesting I will give it a try thanks
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Going back a little to Ian's pic of `Sheila Ann Germaney,' Ian, dig the lady up and remove the rice-grain babies and plant them a little way from the mother bulb. They will then grow on but not if left with her. It's some built in reaction to the need to replace the parent if damaged, but not, if all is well with the mature bulb. But if your main bulb is in a warm place, try her in a cooler, damper place. Like the parent winogradowii, she likes the moister conditions, as does `Katharine Hodgkin.' Probably `Frank Elder' too, but I haven't grown that so can't say from personal experience.
Lesley, what's the timing of this please? Straight after flowering has finished or after leaf growth has died back? Would the "bairns" be OK planted in seed trays in a gritty loam based mix?
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Going to poke my oar in here! We do lift and divide this type of Iris, (Katharine Hodgkin) sometimes when the leaves are just beginning to die back, for ease of remembering they need doing, but if you do it too early, the baby rice grain bulbs haven't had time to develop. So, later is better for the babies. We just spread (plant) them around in the area of their Mums. No real need for seed trays etc.
What say you, Lesley?
PS. Great party, David, had the best time ever.Think it was down to the company.
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While you were all gallivanting to Dunblane :'( I was cursing my local pheasant for eating my leucojocks again. Now I must apologise, because I just went out to look and he was not guilty (well maybe an accessory after the fact).
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Thanks Maggi. We are just back from a weekends mum-in-law visiting (apart from my visually partying in Dunblane) so I will post my post party views tomorrow maybe. I have thanked Lesley for the cake though.
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Anne:
Oh my word, what an infestation! They must have thought you'd come to Dunblane as well so were making free in your absence. Hope you've got 'em all now? I must keep Ian away from this page, I don't know that he can cope with this kind of horror picture. :-\
If the freezing weather comes across from America again, it'll make us grateful forthe chance to freeze a few slugs !
Actually, we thought you had stayed at home to watch forthe long-awaited narcissus to open!
David, don't think we didn't see you make off with the remains of the cake, what's the point of having Security at a party if not to find out what everyone was up to?
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Yikes, Anne,
What an attack!
I presume you have the leucojums growing in a wet position and this would suit the slugs of course. B... No, I can't use bad language on the forum but those little buggers deserve it.
Paddy
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At a snowdrop lunch last year we were treated to Pheasant and prune stew with roasties and Yorkshire puddings. Very tasty. Would that perhaps make you do something with your bird? Pheasant shooting is now over for the hen birds but I think cocks are still fair game
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Yes, that pheasant would definitely be in MY pot. Not so sure about the slugs though.
David, Maggi's advise is good so far as the babies are concerned. I tend to leave them until fully dormant (early to mid summer) at which time they fall away from the parent easily. Before that they are still slightly attached sometimes. Either in another patch in the garden, or your seed tray alternative would be a good idea too and grow them on for a year fefore planting out or giving away or whatever. Here, I find that the babies will grow on to flowering size in no more than two years.
I dug some S A G a few days ago and the mature bulbs are already well rooted in (early August to you)late summer.
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I do not know about slugs but I have eaten snails at that size!
This is a snack in Portugal just like peanuts or prezels is elsewhere maybe not that common though but exists.
This is not the big ones that they eat in Frensh resturants but really tiny ones.
Bon Apetit
Joakim
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Asarum asaroides is open
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Thanks for another fascinating Asarum Chris. I could get really hooked on these.
Maggi, don't you think we could both easily lose masses of weight if the only snack we were allowed to eat were snails? They look so alive too. No thanks!
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I do not know about slugs but I have eaten snails at that size!
This is a snack in Portugal just like peanuts or prezels is elsewhere maybe not that common though but exists.
This is not the big ones that they eat in Frensh resturants but really tiny ones.
Bon Apetit
Joakim
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I thought Anne's slugs looked strangely familiar.
Yum - Portuguese snails - my kiddies love them too!
Chloë
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You may be right, Lesley, but it is a tough way to get thinner. Actually, I found a shell of one of these yellow/brown striped snails today in my kitchen, Joakim must have visited yesterday for a snack before joining us for the virtual party! Is this truly a snack food? Live snails? How do you eat them? I just know I'm going to regret asking that. Joakim says "like peanuts or prezels elsewhere ", which suggests CRUNCHY snacks to me,; you're not going to tell me you crunch them, whole?
I thought only very small children ate slimy things voluntarily, Chloë, and on very rare occasions even then? But, we already know your kids are cute, so I suppose it is really a case of "slugs and snails and puppy dogs' tails......"
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Don't worry, Maggi (at least not quite so much ...) - they are cooked!!! With oregano and other tasty things. They're even sold frozen, ready seasoned, at my local supermarket.
Chloë
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But you don't crunch up the shells as well?
and why are Joakim's moving around?
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Portuguese are small people since they have to bite the snail by the anters and pull them out of the shell and then it takes a while to munch a plate like this compared to eat a bowl of peanuts, btw they only have the peanuts with the shells on so that also takes some time to eat (maybe a diet tipp?). You do not eat the peanuts with the shell on do You? It is like the French eat there garlic snails but smaller! and to a tenth of the cost.
Yes they really look alive so it was a very surrealistic snack that we had. It is common by snackbars by the river sides, not that common in the city, but might be there as well as snacks.
They are boild in garlic and wine and dead even if they "died living" so to say.
Hope the pics made You not hungry.
I lost my craving for a snack at least for a while.
Joakim
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I have forced myself to study the snails more closely... now I see they are dead, thank goodness for that. They do look very lifelike at first glance. Taking a long time to eat a little is not a good way to diet, it is just a good way to spend a longer time eating. (I apologise here to everyone for using this, the most ghastly of four-letter words, I merely quote Joakim's use of "diet", it is not a word/ verb I use myself. I might use it as a noun, but its connotations as a verb are too awful for me to contemplate.)
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I have forced myself to study the snails more closely... now I see they are dead, thank goodness for that. They do look very lifelike at first glance. Taking a long time to eat a little is not a good way to diet, it is just a good way to spend a longer time eating.
I would say that this particular snack is a good way to spend a longer time drinking :D
Chloë
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Many lovely pictures again this month. Your Scilla is really nice John, and that Crocus sieberi form pictured by Franz. As for the lovely Asarums! Nice to see these becoming so popular. Amazed to see pictures of Eranthis and some reticulate Iris - these are only just emerging here.
some nice things under glass here:
first was from seed of 'Anemone biflora' from Kashmir (a big bumper bag it was too!). The first flower at 3 years old reveals it's true identity as A.tschernjaewii. It seems very early - my other biflora group anemone species are a good few weeks off flowering yet.
The narcissus is the third flower from my cross of N.cyclamineus and N. jacetanus. It is much smaller and a nicer shape than the one I posted in january.
an aberrant form of Crocus minimus with buff outers and no markings.
And Ranunculus calandrinioides kindly donated by John Forrest after I admired his plant last year.
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Hi, Darren, nice pix, thanks. Your young Anemone is very sweet. Don't you think that seedlings just coming to flowering size, or still young plants, often flower a little earlier than one would expect from the mature plants? I put this down to youthful enthusiasm on their part. It is a feature that I have noticed before on various types of plants, I'd love to know if there is a more learned reason than their being keen!
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Quite possible Maggi - the flower is also very small (in fact I'm amazed to see a flower yet as the plants are still tiny). Certainly the reduced flower size in juveniles is not unusual. Thinking further about your comment - I have sown seed from the same packet each year for 3 years and it appears the younger the seedling the earlier it emerges (new germinations showed themselves in december, the two year olds emerged in January and some of these 3 year olds are still popping through in feb). I can think of some ecological advantage to this; plants still growing may benefit from lack of competition by emerging early. Also pest populations may be lower. You might think that the young plants may be more vulnerable to the elements but there is evidence that this is not so from other species (juno Iris and Androsace vandellii can take a lot of overhead water when juvenile but not later). Fascinating topic. When I finally do that PhD....
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It IS interesting, isn't it? Yes, think of the seedlings which can take weather that their parents would hate, lots of examples of those in the bulb line, for instance.
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Hi All,
We had a lovely day here,just time to take a few pics around the place.The crocus is "Jeanne d`arc" nothing special,we bought in B&Q
in the sales,the look great in a pot for a few weeks.
Cheers,Guy
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Guy your Hill Poe is looking rough because it has been moved. Hopefully next year it will be back to normal
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You could be right Mark,it might need also a bit more sunshine I think,Got it from the right place were it was found in Nenagh under the walnut tree.not sure will I move it this year or leave it alone for another year.It also started quite late,there are some near it only showing but now.
Cheers,Guy
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If you feel you must move it dont do so until a few weeks after the leaves have yellowed. If you move it in growth you'll set it back again a couple of years
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:)Thanks for the tip Mark,Would you suggest Sun then??
Any Idea or suggestions what those Galanthus could be?? :'(
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Guy, I have to say pass for the ID of those Galanthus. A great tip for anyone buying snowdrops is buy distinct varieties.
Like most snowdrops Hill Poe should be happy with any light level except full shade. Those of mine in full shade lean out looking for light
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Yep Mark,you know how it go`s friends bring you al sorts of he,and then you have to plant them in case the come to visit some day ::)
Thanks again,
Guy
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These things are giving colour in my alpine house at the moment.
Jozef
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Oh, Jozef, what a treat to see these good Dionysias. :)
There were some at the Dunblane display and they were flowering well . There were about six or so plants and they were healthy little plants in approx. 10 to 12cm pots. Not sure if there's a photo about, anyone?
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And quite exquisite colour Jozef !
Great plants !
Beautiful photos
Thanks
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3 bulbs to show from the alpine house.
Crocus wandering Minstrel, which I got from TG. What is its parentage?
Ornithogalum sigmoideum grown from exchange seed and I believe from Turkey. As you can see it is completely sessile.
Romulea clusii I love for its electric colour, which shines out in the alpine house.
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John, the crocus's parentage is 'W.S.Gilbert' x `Arthur Sullivan.' "A Wandering Minstel I.." no, no Lesley, shut up!
Lovely Dionysias Jozef. There are so many hybrids about nowadays in the northern hemisphere. Do they set seed? and if so, does anyone sell any?
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Lesley, I never collect seeds of my plants (except Androsaces). But I went to my alpine house and found a few (10) seeds on one of the plants. If you like I can send them. I don’t know whether they will germinate.
Or you can try to buy some from this man.
http://www.dionysia.de/ (http://www.dionysia.de/)
I am afraid his list is not updated.
Jozef
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Thank you for the offer of your seeds Jozef, and I happily accept. I'll email you privately with address etc. You are very kind. And thanks for link too. What an amazing collection Herr Mayr has. I'll email him as well. There are very few species here in NZ, probably just a couple in regular cultivation, maybe a couple others appearing from time to time.
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Jozef, what an amazing photo! Reminds me of a photo Ian has of a Gentiana sino-ornata reflected in a Dobro steel guitar... wonder if I can find it? I do like it when I see a photo that has some added 'twist' to it. Funny sort of helmet, though! Is it for a motor bike or a fireman?
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Seeing dionysias in or through the visor should cool any tendencies one might have, towards road rage.
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Couple of Frits, Fritillaria davisii from seed ..it took 11 years to flower which is a bit long. It's also tiny, only 2 inches tall. The other one is Fritillaria pluriflora that I've had for something like 13 years, it actually came to me as something else but it was a bit of a no brainer as to what it was when it flowered! Still only one bulb, some years it has more flowers on the spike, others less.
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Your Frit. davisii is only a baby, Mark, what were you expecting, Desperate Dan? They don't get that big, at the best of times, only about 8inches, 20cms at most. When they are mature you can get twin flowers, see BULB LOG 18 ---- 3rd May 2006.
Frit. pluriflora is one of the few really pink frits. It can make quite tall stems with multiple flowers when mature and happy but you are doing fine with your, Mark. It is a good clear pink and standing well. Patience, what's a decade or so between friends?
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I've just spotted that Chris Bailes of Rosemoor is featuring on Gardeners' World tonight on mainland UK tv, BBC2 at 20.30 hrs. £ minutes! I'm off!
The subject is "Winter Garden Beauty", which was what Chris had as one of his talk titles when he spoke at the Dunblane Early Bulb Display the other year. He is an excellent fellow.
21.27pm
The programme was a good one, with contributions from the Ashwood Gang, too.
Carol Klein was busy replanting divided clumps of Galanthus, in full growth! OOH! Controversy!
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My davisii stands about 8cms high and took just 3 and a half years to flower from seed. It was from seed collected on an AGS expedition, in the Pelaponese.
The pluriflora is beautiful.
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Has Carol had a face lift!!!? I was screaming "no" at her for continuing the in-the-green lie. And the stoopid scarf and red coat while she was spreading compost. Wardrobe people what were you thinking!?
John always gives away the stunning yellow Hellebores. Not for sale when I enquired 2 week ago
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Hi Maggi
thanks for mentioning gardeners world. I am suffering from a stinking cold since returning from Madeira so went to bed really early last night. Luckily my cable tv records a few hundred programes each week and this was one of them. Have just watched it and really enjoyed it (especially the visit to East Lambrook Manor for the Marjory Fish Galanthus collection).
Mark - I do wish you hadn't mentioned the scarf - I couldn't take my eyes off it and really thought she was going to plant it at one point.
cheers
John
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thanks for the comments about the Frits. The davisii was unreasonably slow, I have it on report and will ask it to explain itself. I had other species flowering much quicker and curiously it's one I never bought as a bulb so as always I'm in sort of reverse formation, with the easiest and quickest to flower last.
btw, anyone else not getting alerts despite ticking the box and checking their spam folder?
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Frm Mark G. :btw, anyone else not getting alerts despite ticking the box and checking their spam folder?
Not that I know of, Mark. Carlo was still getting alerts in spite of unchecking the box for one thread....another side of the same problem but I think it is an isolated problem. I am finding that my alerts are very slow in coming through to me.... by the time they arrive I have read and often replied to the thread!
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I tried the alerts thingy once. Never again as the email was swamped. It doesn't take long to see what's new without it poking you in the eye.
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ok, it seems to be a common problem on forums, it's working for now.
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I havent posted in here for sooo long.
Out and about today I saw many gardens in Belfast with what looked like Black Thorn Prunus spinosain bloom. When I had a chance I stopped and pulled a twig. They were Flowering Plum Prunus cerasifera thats also comes in pink with red leaves. They make a fantastic show. A dwarf variety would be good for the garden
The first 'pollinator's were out in the garden earlier this week. I call 'em hover flies but they are probably Drone flies
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The pollinators were out in force here today too. Cyclamen coum in the first photo, C. alpinum in the second and C. alpinum forma Leucanthum in the third.
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JoF - Crocus Wandering Minstrel is believed to be a tommasinianus x vernus. It was found by John Grimshaw, better known for those little white jobs down at Colesbourne! Despite the 'streaky' outer petals it is vigorous. The markings might suggest virus to some but I have seen no other signs of that in this plant. (You might expect twisted or misformed flowers and streaks of yellow in the leaves)
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Having followed the Snowdrop trail for the past few weeks, I discovered the best display in Fullarton Woods in Troon only 10 miles from my house. They are probably all the same variety but the spectacle takes some beating. Surprisingly, Fullarton Wood does not appear on the printed guide to the Snowdrop trail even better-it is a public park so entrance is free. A few pictures for Galanthophiles.
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I thought that I had sent 3 pictures with the message. I clicked on Additional Options, then Browse to My Pictures, chose 3 pictures reduced to 600 px by 100Kb, they seemed to appear in the Attach box. I hit Post and they vanished into the ether although the text came through. What did I do wrong ?
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that I'm not sure
1. additional options
2. browse - look for folder, double click the image
3. more attachments
4. repeat 3&2
5. post
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Thanks for your advice Mark. I noticed that I had forgotten to downsize one picture and it was 15 Mb so I have removed this, follow your instructions to the letter and will give it another go.
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thanks T C (sorry I am not sure of your correct name).
That is indeed a wonderful display - thank you for the photographs. I particularly liked the drops on their way up the dead tree - a Chelsea show garden would have been proud of that.
with kind regards
John
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What incredible pictures Tom, beats the other thread by miles!
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Wow. White out conditions! 8) If anyone says they don't grow on trees....... ;)
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Just super pictures, snowies looking genuinely snowy! That tree trunk is superb... proves that the seeds must be distributed by ants, how else might the plants have got there?
Welcome to the Forum, TC, you've started with a bang!
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looks great but the snowdrops on the tree dont seem to be the same species as all others.
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We have a slight problem in that our upload folder is full and we need to allocate more disc space to the forum at our server - you may not be able to post images in the meantime.
We will sort this out as soon as possible but being Sunday night it may not happen until monday morning.
Only posts with pictures are affected, you can post as much text as you wish.
Sorry for this temporary problem - normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.
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Good news,
Mr Admin is working late tonight and has increased the disc allocation so normal service should now be resumed.
Thank you Fred.
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It's OK Ian, a special reserve malt whisky calmed me down. Here's three pics of a hellebore grown in a raised sunless bed by the back door. The branches are part of a Wisteria.
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Hello from newbie - well not actually. I occasionally contributed to the forum in the past under a different name. Then for some reason I was disconnected. I presumed I had inadvertantly transgresed some protocol and I gave up looking at the forum until a couple of weeks back. When I tried to log on I was told I did not exist. Being 65, I quickly took my pulse, and although beating at 48 beats a minute, I discovered to my own satisfaction that I was still alive. This was confirmed a few days later when I met Betty Ivie and Ian Christie at Cambo Gardens when my wife and I started out on the Snowdrop trail.
For my sins, I am the Treasurer of the Ayr Group. I reached this exalted position because I failed to turn up at the AGM and was voted in "in absentia"
I turned to rock garden plants 15 years ago because my dream of planting of planting a Himalayan forest in my back garden measuring 55 x 35 feet was somewhat grandiose. Hobbies are Bird watching, Gardening and trying to master the blues guitar. Two more pictures attached
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I'm sure Officer Dibble will forgive and forget TC :)
Here is Corydalis cheilanthifolia, a Chinese species that caught my eye in a garden centre on Saturday.
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That's the way to see snowdrops,I love all of your pics.I grow 150 varieties or should I say 'NAMES' and am very sceptical about all of the new names let alone a lot of the older names.Even the intelligentsia can't tell me what some of them are where the label has been lost
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HI, Tom! I presume your previous posts were on the old forum? That had to be changed to this new system when ALL our details went walkabout and we all had to re-register for the new forum.
These Fullarton woods are a treasure, I presume because they are a public park that they are safe from development?
A friend of ours had a cat which looked just like Benny the Ball, one of Top Cat's sidekicks. He didn't wear the cute little jackets, but apart from that he was a dead ringer!
Anthony, what a strange plant to find at a garden centre. Not that the Corydalis cheilanthefolia is strange but that one doesn't normally see that sort of interesting plant in garden centres. Quite "fancy" for that kind of outlet, I'd have thought... perhaps this is a sign that this season these centres will stock more out of the ordinary plants. Hope costs nothing, after all.
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How can you tell Mark, the ones on the ground are so thick it's impossible to say what they are. So stop complaining!
Anthony, your Corydalis will seed around a bit. I have to nip out quite a lot but they're not a problem, coming out quite easily. Individuals are perennial but maybe not long lived. The foliage is very pretty.
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A few pics taken on this glorious sunny day,inside and out.
Edgeworthia chrysantha.jpg
close-up.jpg
Ashwood Yellow spotted.jpg
Ashwood Double.jpg
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Asphodelus acaulis.jpg
Asarum splendens.jpg
Daphne Jaqueline Postill.jpg
Daphne jezoensis.jpg
Alnus inana 'Aurea'.jpg
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Goodness, John G, I have just been enjoying those wonderful plants you have of Hepatica and now I open this thread and see that your garden is in full bloom, too!! Wonderful! It has been a wet, windy and very cold day here, how nice to see others faring better! The Edgeworthia doesn't look real, does it? looks like it has been crafted out ofthat fuzzy felt that children play with. And such a crisp clean colour combination, too. Would that grow for us up here, do you think? I can't say I've ever seen it offered in Scotland.
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I doubt that it would be hardy for you Maggi.Until recently,that is since the advent of climate change,I would'nt have risked it here either.In fact I saw it for sale for the first time only 3yrs.ago which is when I planted it.It is related to the daphne family which is evident from the individual flowers and it also has a similar scent.
Below are a couple of pics.that I was'nt able to fit in on my previous post.Hope you like them.
Myosotidium hortensis and Ranunculus calandriniodes
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Indeed I do, John, as will everyone, I know. The giant Chatham Island forget-me-not, Myosotidium hortensis is extraordinary, isn't it? I first saw that in real life in Harold McBride's garden, couldn't believe the size of the leaves, and so shiny! Good, clean Ranunculus, too.
I will edit your post to include the plant names in the text, John, so that the forum search facility can locate the pictures. Bit of a tip for future posts.... I know we can see the file names underthe thumnails in your posts, but the search facility cannot find those for some reason!
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A selection of Cyclamen coum in my frame
Cyclamen coum
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And some hederifolium which I have selected for leaf forms, all growing together in a hopeless tangle, they'll get sorted out one day.
Cyclamen hederifolium
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Who could resist any of them? A member of our local SRGC Group has decided to give up her cyclamen collection because she feels she is not able to look after them as well as she would like, so she has given them to the Group to be sold for group funds and to get them to good new homes. a hard thing to do, but very sensible and I hope this generous lady will take heart in the pleasure her plants will give to lots of new owners. We have five or six big box/trays full of super plants, from larger specimens to pots of seedlings.... these will be keenly searched through, starting at tomorrow's meeting with the first mixed lot, everything from hederifolium forms to repandum, graecum, cilicium, coum .. you name it!
We are looking forward to welcoming President Ian III to talk to us tomorrow. Last year for this same meeting we called off Ian's talk because the weather was so bad... the forecast isn't that great for tomorrow... here's hoping we get to enjoy his visit this year :D
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On the Cyclamen theme, here are a couple of pictures of some seedlings which I have grown from my own plant's seeds. The Mirabile with the crimson splash on the leaf looks promising if I can keep it alive. The other is either Coum or Cilicum - a Blackbird took a fancy to my plant labels and dispersed them round the garden. Can anyone identify it from the leaves ?
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Tom, the plant in your second photo is C. coum.
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Maggi, the Edgeworthia is listed in the RHS dictionary as "hardy only in favoured districts." It grows well here (not in my garden but in Christchurch I know a couple, and that's colder than here) and according to Hillier is used in Japan (where it comes from) in the making of high class papers for currency. Probably not nowadays but a nice thought that the "filthy lucre" comes from such an attractive source. The specific name chrysantha is a synonym for papyrifera.
While looking in the RHS dictionary for this, I came across a superb generic name. So good that I feel another thread coming on.
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I bought a small Edgworthia last year as a result of seeing it flowering in a local garden near Kidderminster. This plant was about 15 ft high and covered it its cadmium yellow flowers. So far no flowers here but looks as though it has made it through our mild winter so far. These beauties are always worth a punt because they are so spectacular if they succeed your a lucky whatsit and anyway you can always imagine how they might look in years to come if you are lucky - I think that's what gardening is all about
Note: I think Ian means 15 inches not 15ft! M
No Maggi 15 ft is correct the Edgworthia is a shrub best grown against a wall in the uK
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Goodness, Ian if the Edgeworthia is fifteen feet now, after a year, what size was the "small plant" you bought? :o :o
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No Maggi I was alluding to the one I saw at the garden where I bought mine - I did not make myself clear - a habit I'm falling into as I get older. What was that you said? Anyway it would have been a bit tricky to get into the car! ;D
For the record my plant is about 3 ft in height
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Oh, right, I'm with you now! It was my lack rather than yours which caused the confusion, I think, Ian. Though I have been known to be "willfully awkward"( "Thrawn", we say in Scotland!) sometimes I'm just a bit dim!