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Title: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Stefan B. on March 05, 2023, 06:07:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/kxYj13P.jpg)
Galanthus woronowii 'Elizabeth Harrison'

And several G. woronowii with different markings on the inner petals.
(https://i.imgur.com/c7uWxgh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/I0ELyGq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9YgN4aT.jpg)
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Stefan B. on March 05, 2023, 06:18:43 PM
And a few more nivalis from Slovenia
(https://i.imgur.com/CHBic4V.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C2ojDgn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/t2cBVj3.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Sff6uWg.jpg)
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 07, 2023, 12:31:32 PM
I like the G. woronowii with unusual markings, Stefan!
This one is an almost albino, called 'The Naked Truth', selected by Freddy van Houtte
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Mariette on March 07, 2023, 04:38:34 PM
This looks very nice, indeed! My G. woronowii often show very reduced marks, but not to the extent of this lovely selection.
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Stefan B. on March 07, 2023, 08:02:09 PM
Anne, really nice selection... if you come across a dealer that offers it, please give me a shout, I want to buy it, I love it!
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Stefan B. on March 07, 2023, 08:13:04 PM
I remembered that I also have one with a small marking but it is not blooming this year, this is a photo from last spring.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZugikTQ.jpg)

Here is a G. woronowii with olive yellow, it didn't bloom this spring, next spring I will compare it with 'Elizabeth Harrison'
(https://i.imgur.com/3yzitgs.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/iGSRupt.jpg)
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on March 08, 2023, 02:42:35 PM
Stefan, you have very nice different G.woronowii. I have found that it is not as reliably hardy here as G.nivalis.
Mostly it is hardy, but last winter I lost several G.woronowii plants, one was very nice grown from Holubeck seeds and I'm sorry I lost it.
My other G.woronowii are all quite similar to each other.
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: partisangardener on March 13, 2023, 11:36:30 AM
G.woronowii is here too not completely hardy.
G.plicatus is more hardy but we had sometimes winters here in Bavaria with some losses.
G.elwesii loves it more on the dry side but is then nearly as reliable as nivalis.
Today I had a look at my local gardener they had about 20 small pots with healthy looking G.elwesii. In one pot there were several with little green markings on the outside. Another one had two stems with twin flowers.
I took these ones and have a try how they fare in my garden.
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on March 14, 2023, 10:10:14 AM
Axel, thank you for your experiences in hardiness. :)
You have found very nice G.elwesii. Here we don't usually have potted snowdrops in shops in spring, though there are some other spring bulbs.
In couple of bigger cities there are Plantagen garden centers, and I've heard that they sometimes carry also snowdrops in pots (imported from Europe), but the closest Plantagen to me is over 100km away. :(

Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: partisangardener on March 15, 2023, 09:36:44 AM
Leena your beauties you show us here, are something to dream about, its a pity that many plants are a far way off.
In my city you find usually none or a very small amount each place. Which fits me well, because a Galanthus event would overwhelm me.

G.elwesii and G.woronowii is usually imported from Georgia and Turkey. At least in Turkey they manage their wild populations sustainable.
The potted ones are in many cases doomed. Substrate and watering issues is mostly the reason. Many have mold infections, so if ever, you have to look close.
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Anne Repnow on March 15, 2023, 01:58:59 PM
I totally agree with you - potted snowdrops from shops ought to be quarantined before planting them amongst established snowdrops.

Here the snwodrop season is drawing to an end. There are still some late ones in flower and those very, very late ones (like G. platyphyllus) still to come.
But some really cling on - like 'Funny Justine'
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Mariette on March 22, 2023, 09:13:58 PM
Some late arrivals - ´Washfield Warham´ recalls fond memories of visits to Elizabeth Strangman´s nursery.

(https://up.picr.de/45369484qr.jpg)

An unnamed G. nivalis, found by a dear friend. I like the fresh contrast between white flowers and darkgreen foliage, especially at this time of the snowdrop season.

(https://up.picr.de/45369479cq.jpg)

Another unnamed one, a G. elwesii presenting its flowers well above the foliage.

(https://up.picr.de/45380700nb.jpg)
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Stefan B. on March 23, 2023, 05:17:20 PM
Mariette, nice pictures and plants!

Here are my last snowdrops...blooming half a month earlier than usual due to the warm winter.
(https://i.imgur.com/u2Ui4gT.jpg)
Galanthus platyphyllus

(https://i.imgur.com/GIvS4g1.jpg)
and Galanthus nivalis 'Bunch', which probably won't open because of the warm weather...
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on March 24, 2023, 07:33:18 AM
Mariette, I love your plant communities. All go so well together and there are so many plants.
The last picture is really wonderful, with helleborus in the background and that snowdrop does look nice with flowers held high above foliage.

Stefan, nice to see a picture of G.platyphyllos. :)
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on March 24, 2023, 07:35:59 AM
Here are some pictures taken yesterday. Temperature was +6C and snow was melting fast. Snowdrops were revealed when snow melted.
'Lerinda' grows in my earliest spot.
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on March 24, 2023, 07:39:45 AM
Some more.
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on March 24, 2023, 07:46:44 AM
I was reading The snowdrop book about G.woronowii (thinking how it was not as hardy here as others) and it says there (on page 46) that in Black Sea coast here are two ecological varieties of G.woronowii. The "woodland type" and the "rock type", and they also look different. Does anyone know more about these?
I wonder if there are differences also in hardiness..
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Stefan B. on March 24, 2023, 08:33:19 AM
Leena, your eagerness shows in the photos :)
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Villu on March 24, 2023, 08:33:50 PM
Snowdrop season in Estonia kicked off this week very rapidly. It was very snowy and rather cold March compared to January and February. We had 40 cm of snow just two weeks ago. Warm spell with rain melted the snow and by the midweek it was finally gone. Snowdrops already in bloom or shooting appeared. Temperatures up to 10 degrees in Celsius past few days have speed things up even more.

Few pictures from garden today.

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'Lucy' & 'Rodmarton Acturus'
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'South Hayes'
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'Veronica Cross'
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'Trimmer'
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'Lucy'
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Villu on March 24, 2023, 08:55:47 PM
And some more to my delight, and hopefully yours too!

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'Don Armstrong'
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'Poculiperfect' & 'Moortown Mighty'
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'Moortown Mighty'
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'Rodmarton Acturus'
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'Glenorma'

Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Maggi Young on March 25, 2023, 06:48:26 AM
Definitely delightful, Villu! Great to see them looking so fresh when here in Aberdeen so many are going over.
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Mariette on March 25, 2023, 09:25:04 AM
Definitely - looking at masses of weatherbeaten snowdrop-leaves without flowers in my garden, it´s very refreshing to enjoy Villu´s impressing clumps in their prime!

Thank You, Stefan and Leena! Leena, I understood the lowland forms of G. woronowii have larger leaves and are less hardy than those originating from higher up in the mountains, as may be expected. I trust we´ll soon take part of a second snowdrop season seeing Your pictures here!  :)
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on March 25, 2023, 09:55:52 AM
Leena, your eagerness shows in the photos :)

Stefan, I really  love spring flowers and snowdrops. They don't always love me back so much, my conditions don't suit all, but I try and learn. :)

And some more to my delight, and hopefully yours too!
'Don Armstrong'
'Rodmarton Acturus'

Villu, thank you for the wonderful pictures! They grow so well in your garden, and your clumps are impressive. :)
Many of my snowdrops suffered last winter (winter 2022) and on top of that last summer was dry, so I think that is why some have declined,
but I'm so happy there are many showing buds now. :) I must think more carefully where I plant them, and also do some transplanting.

'Don Armstrong' looks really nice and also 'Rodmarton Arcturus' is a snowdrop I saw in pictures only this winter for the first time, and I must try to find it somewhere.
I like big and round snowdrops (as well as yellow ones).
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on March 25, 2023, 09:58:37 AM
Leena, I understood the lowland forms of G. woronowii have larger leaves and are less hardy than those originating from higher up in the mountains, as may be expected. I trust we´ll soon take part of a second snowdrop season seeing Your pictures here!  :)

Thank you Mariette! It would be good to learn which clones come from where.

Yes, I will take pictures. :) Next week there will be more snow, but I'm looking forward to April.
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Villu on March 25, 2023, 08:05:51 PM
'Don Armstrong' looks really nice and also 'Rodmarton Arcturus' is a snowdrop I saw in pictures only this winter for the first time, and I must try to find it somewhere.
I like big and round snowdrops (as well as yellow ones).
We have same preferences, Leena!  :D My first choice snowdrop was 'Wendy's Gold' and second 'Pat Mason' which I both acquired from Ebay auction in March 2014. Back then I was new to snowdropping as well to auctioning. I'm lucky that I grew my interest in snowdrops at the right time as now this world is so restricted due to BREXIT.

I still love the big snowdrops as well as all my yellows. Over the years I have fell for green ones and ipocs (which I love-love!). Actually, I love them ALL!  8)
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Galanthus elwesii 'Pat Mason'
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on March 27, 2023, 03:13:47 PM
I'm lucky that I grew my interest in snowdrops at the right time as now this world is so restricted due to BREXIT.

I'm so happy I did, too, though my snowdrops have not (yet) formed so wonderful clumps as yours.
'Pat Mason' looks really nice. :)
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Villu on March 31, 2023, 03:07:47 PM
To finish March off on a more positive note, some more of my favorite snowdrops in my garden earlier this week. By now everything is covered with snow once again.  >:(

I bet it is same for Leena! :D

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Galanthus elwesii 'Rosemary Burnham'

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Galanthus elwesii 'Margaret Biddulph'

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Galanthus 'Cowhouse Green'

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Galanthus 'Green Tear'

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Snowdrop Bed


 
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on April 01, 2023, 12:54:15 PM
I bet it is same for Leena! :D

Yes, everything is again under snow. Just as they started to come up. It will be a very short snowdrop season again this year here.

Your snowdrop bed is wonderful! What is the big very white clump in the right side on top?
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Gabriela on April 02, 2023, 12:11:46 AM
Wow Villu, it is such a joy to see your large clumps of various snowdrops!

I don't have he opportunity to purchase cultivars in Canada, only what is offered for sale from Dutch growers, mainly nivalis, elwesii and woronowii, plus few seeds offered by friends. There is such a large variability even among the purchased bulbs, it is very interesting to observe them.

Leena - sorry it snowed again, I know how eagerly you must be for flowers. I noticed a small clump of nivalis from your seeds with few flowers :)

Galanthus nivalis are in full bloom now.
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G. elwesii are in various stages - this one started to flower in February! always very early; in and out of the snow many times.
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A giant from G. elwesii and one with a nice heart-shaped pattern.
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Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Gail on April 02, 2023, 09:52:58 AM
They are lovely Gabriela - I do like the heart.
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on April 02, 2023, 05:50:28 PM
That heart is beautiful. :) Not very common I think.

I don't have he opportunity to purchase cultivars in Canada, only what is offered for sale from Dutch growers, mainly nivalis, elwesii and woronowii, plus few seeds offered by friends. There is such a large variability even among the purchased bulbs, it is very interesting to observe them.

I totally agree, and especially with elwesii there is so much variation in garden center bulbs. That is what got me interested in snowdrops in the first place about 15 years ago. :)
And now growing from seed, and also seeing self sown seedlings flower, that is the best. Between these two phases there was a collecting phase, but that was good because now I have learned  more about snowdrops and also now I have different ones to have seeds from. :)

This small snowdrop grew in the side of the path, it was self sown, and flowered for the first time this year in March (right now it is still under the snow that came a week ago). We'll see if it grows bigger  in the future.
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Gabriela on April 03, 2023, 12:53:13 AM
Thank you Gail and Leena, you can tell I don't have many other flowers to look at right now  :D

I grew up thinking about snowdrops as very common spring garden flowers Leena. My grandma had large patches showing up every spring along the fence (probably nivalis). Once in a while we would also find them in the woods and meadows.
Here in Canada I was surprised to see that they are not common spring flowers, although people plant Crocuses, daffodils and so on. True that they are not offered as much in garden centers and they are a bit more expensive.

They are the best spring flowers to have even in a cold climate like ours :) Nothing else flowers so early, reliable and being rabbit proof on top of all!
Title: Re: Galanthus March 2023
Post by: Leena on April 05, 2023, 08:30:53 AM
Here in Canada I was surprised to see that they are not common spring flowers, although people plant Crocuses, daffodils and so on. True that they are not offered as much in garden centers and they are a bit more expensive.

They are the best spring flowers to have even in a cold climate like ours :) Nothing else flowers so early, reliable and being rabbit proof on top of all!

I so agree. :)
Also here snowdrops are not common, and most people consider spring flowers to be scillas and narcissus and tulips which flower in May.
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