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Title: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on February 01, 2022, 06:47:24 PM
Amana anhuiensis baohuanensis from China is a tulipa relative with big flowers.
It looks as if the one bulb will split this season  ;D
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Yann on February 01, 2022, 07:05:09 PM
I think i lost mines, they don't like to dry.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on February 01, 2022, 07:26:54 PM
I think i lost mines, they don't like to dry.
Indeed, they get some water during summer.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on February 02, 2022, 06:18:32 PM
Somewhat easier to find is this Amana edulis
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on February 02, 2022, 06:20:24 PM
A few more flowers.
Tulipa orthopoda
Tulipa biflora
A starting Tulipa albertii
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on February 20, 2022, 07:01:26 PM
A few photos of today.
Tulipa systola from Iran
Tulipa orithyoides from Tajikistan & Uzbekistan
The red form of Tulipa albertii from Kazakhstan
The yellow form of Tulipa albertii with red flames
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on March 12, 2022, 07:31:51 PM
Very distinct in colour is this Tulipa rosea
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on March 12, 2022, 07:33:53 PM
Some more
Tulipa aff ferganica from Kyrgystan
Tulipa kurdica
Tulipa montana red
Tulipa montana yellow
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on March 12, 2022, 07:35:37 PM
Tulipa hissarica
Tulipa cretica Dikti form
Tulipa tetraphylla
Tulipa zenaidae yellow form
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on March 13, 2022, 11:11:57 PM
These are some excellent tulips, Luc!
The plants look nicely compressed, not elongated as one would expect in a greenhouse at this time of the year. Do you use artificial light or are you blessed with sun?

Also I am still looking for a T. rosea. Do you have a source?

My outdoor tulips are just forming the first buds - well, a few Eriostemones are. Section Tulipa is barely showing yet as March was cold. The fist tulips were out around New Year's though and grew nicely through Jan and Feb as it was unusually warm.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: ArnoldT on March 14, 2022, 01:27:35 AM
Luc

I have T. ferganica here in the USA.  It has persisted outside without any special treatment.  Generally tulips fade and disappear after 3-4 years but this one has hung in.  Where did you get yours.  I would like to get some addition bulbs but have been unable to find them.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on March 14, 2022, 09:09:16 PM
I have 3 ferganica clones but only very few bulbs.
Aleksandr Naumenko (https://www.nova-zahrada.eu) has several different ferganicas, Rareplants UK at least had them some years ago. Janis Ruksans also offers ferganica, but only for next year.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on March 17, 2022, 10:44:00 PM
A few warm days can do wonders - the first tulip of the season is in bloom.
Tulipa biflora ssp koktebelica from Crimea
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Yann on March 19, 2022, 10:15:49 PM
A few warm days can do wonders - the first tulip of the season is in bloom.
Tulipa biflora ssp koktebelica from Crimea
Very beautifull, more handsome than the belligerent who annexed the Crimea.

From seeds (5y), Tulipa clusiana var chrysantha
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Tomte on March 26, 2022, 08:32:33 PM
Tulipa regelii. A lovely potful as seen in the alpine house of the Munich botanical garden. My single bulb has some work go do to get as good as this  :D
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on March 29, 2022, 07:57:11 PM
In the rockgarden, unprotected all year
Tulipa dubia "Beldersai"
Tulipa greigii "Goldenes Prag"
Tulipa florenskyi LEE176 from Armenia
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on March 29, 2022, 07:59:22 PM
Tulipa tarda
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on April 17, 2022, 03:29:30 PM
Tulipa confusa from Armenia
Tulipa cornystemon from Kazakhstan
Tulipa micheliana LEE406 from Iran
Tulipa ostrowskiana from Kazakhstan
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: LucS on April 17, 2022, 03:32:19 PM
Tulipa montana LEE527 from Iran
Tulipa tetraphylla from Kazakhstan
Tulipa rosea
Tulipa florenskyi from Armenia
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: ArnoldT on April 23, 2022, 05:15:55 PM
Tulipa ferganica
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on May 02, 2022, 12:30:49 AM
Biflores are a nightmare, I am glad I am not a taxonomist. Named as I got them.

Tulipa koktebelica from Crimea, flowers very early
Tulipa orthopoda from Kazakhstan, 2 forms which look very different? I have no idea.
Tulipa subbiflora from Tajikistan, a tiny plant which opens flowers within the leaf sheaths without showing buds
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on May 02, 2022, 12:42:52 AM
Tulipa polychroma from Iran
Tulipa biflora, a tall clone from Iran close to binutans
Tulipa binutans from Kyrgyztan, one of my favorites. Flowers for almost a month, curiously the flowers only open in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on May 02, 2022, 12:48:30 AM
Tulipa buhseana from Kazakhstan
Looks very similar to binutans but flowers both earlier in season and daytime as well as for a shorter period. It comes from a steppe habitat while binutans is a mountain species.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on May 02, 2022, 12:57:13 AM
Tulipa turkestanica 'Nuratau'
Tulipa turkestanica 'Zaamin'
Both from the Uzbekistan - Tajikistan border, I do not see much of a difference
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on May 02, 2022, 01:05:15 AM
Tulipa tarda 'Kashka Su' from Kyrgyzstan
Tulipa urumiensis, yellow form of tarda, allegedly from Iran, only known from cultivation
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Karaba on May 02, 2022, 08:39:21 AM
Very nice series of pictures,Christian !
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: ashley on May 02, 2022, 10:52:10 AM
You have a great collection Christian, and I love how they grow so 'naturally' under good light conditions.
Yes section Biflores is rather confusing taxonomically but fortunately there's a very interesting article on the subject in the latest International Rock Gardener (vol. 148) (https://www.srgc.net/documents/irg/220429135707IRG148.pdf).
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on May 03, 2022, 10:31:18 PM
Thank you!

I am currently working on a thorough documentation of all of my 200+ tulip cultivars, from macro photos of flower parts, bulbs and bulb tunics to seedpods and seeds.

The key to biflores is highly appreciated, I'll go through it with my plants once I have good pictures of all parts. Still as ecologist I must say I am not overly fond of 'splitters' defining taxa by subtle morphological characteristics of a few plants, especially regarding vegetative parts. In many cases such classification cannot be upheld when looking at the full diversity within a tulip population. Infraspecific variation is ofter higher than between such 'species'. We would need to know more about pollinators and reproductive isolation as well as genetics to better define tulip species.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10722-018-0688-4

Anyway, let's continue with Saxatiles

Tulipa humilis, Dutch stock
Tulipa humilis violacea, Dutch stock
Tulipa kurdica from Iraq
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on May 04, 2022, 12:19:07 AM
Tulipa humilis alba caerulea oculata, Dutch stock
Tulipa rosea caerulea oculata, Dutch stock
This is the only humilis I have which produced flowers which droop when closed.
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Karaba on May 04, 2022, 11:31:12 AM
The key to biflores is highly appreciated, I'll go through it with my plants once I have good pictures of all parts. Still as ecologist I must say I am not overly fond of 'splitters' defining taxa by subtle morphological characteristics of a few plants, especially regarding vegetative parts. In many cases such classification cannot be upheld when looking at the full diversity within a tulip population. Infraspecific variation is ofter higher than between such 'species'. We would need to know more about pollinators and reproductive isolation as well as genetics to better define tulip species.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10722-018-0688-4
Totally agree and thank you for the reference, very interesting with lots of pictures
Title: Re: Tulipa 2022
Post by: Christian G. on May 06, 2022, 11:13:06 PM
Tulipa cretica 'Archanes' - a  tiny flower
Tulipa cretica 'Heraklion - much bigger and more colorful, maybe a hybrid with saxatilis?
Tulipa bakeri 'Lilac Wonder' - a giant im comparison to cretica, Dutch stock
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