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Title: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: annew on February 11, 2021, 08:27:34 PM
While the freeze persists, an opportunity to photograph some daffodils, these are selected hoop petticoat seedlings, only Daphnis is named so far. The Daphnis flowers show the evolution of the flower shape as it matures, from cone to disk to rolled rim on the oldest flower.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Yann on February 11, 2021, 09:35:15 PM
While the freeze persists, an opportunity to photograph some daffodils, these are selected hoop petticoat seedlings, only Daphnis is named so far. The Daphnis flowers show the evolution of the flower shape as it matures, from cone to disk to rolled rim on the oldest flower.
So nice!
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Ian Y on February 12, 2021, 11:33:49 AM
A lovely selection Anne
you just got to love them all.............
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: annew on February 13, 2021, 04:52:50 PM
STILL flippin' freezing! A seedling I am bulking up, and the left overs from an afternoon photographing in the warm.  8)
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on February 20, 2021, 11:35:13 AM
Just in full flower
Narcissus albimarginatus KV 702

from Kurt Vickery

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gail on February 20, 2021, 11:54:36 AM
That is absolutely gorgeous Gerd! New to me, is it scented?
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: annew on February 20, 2021, 01:33:15 PM
Superb, Gerd - I am glad you are more successful with it than I am! The scent is rich and powerful.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on February 20, 2021, 05:02:46 PM
That is absolutely gorgeous Gerd! New to me, is it scented?

Yes, as Ann stated - it has a nice scent!
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on February 20, 2021, 05:12:32 PM
Superb, Gerd - I am glad you are more successful with it than I am! The scent is rich and powerful.

Thank you Ann! What are the difficulties with your plants? I am not the experienced grower of daffodils but until now I had
no problems with albimarginatus.

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: annew on February 20, 2021, 06:03:08 PM
Gerd, if I knew what the problem was, I would fix it. The bulbs got smaller and stopped flowering. I tried in different conditions, but it doesn't seem to help. I sent some back to Spain last year as I did not want to kill them all, but the few I have left are just emerging. I do have hybrid seedlings from them though. I am really happy to see they are doing well somewhere else, as I know how rare and precious they are.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: annew on February 20, 2021, 06:04:21 PM
I see it has a KV number - did Kurt Vickery collect the seeds? Can you tell me how you are growing it?
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Matt T on February 20, 2021, 06:16:20 PM
I see it has a KV number - did Kurt Vickery collect the seeds?

Looking back at Kurt's 2017 catalogue, my interpretation is that the seeds are from cultivated plants of his own collection at Bou Hachem, Morocco, rather than selling wild collected seeds directly. I'd assume that the original wild collection of KV 702 was of seed rather than plants. The catalogue also indicates that the original collection was a solo trip.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: annew on February 20, 2021, 06:51:28 PM
Thanks, Matt.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Karaba on February 20, 2021, 10:19:50 PM
Just in full flower
Narcissus albimarginatus KV 702

from Kurt Vickery

Gerd
Wow, so beautiful. They are not seen often !
How tall are they ? and do they set seeds ?
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on February 21, 2021, 08:49:07 AM
Wow, so beautiful. They are not seen often !
How tall are they ? and do they set seeds ?

Yvain, they are about 30 cm and they build seed. Seedset seems a bit erratic - last year there were none.

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on February 21, 2021, 08:56:19 AM
Gerd, if I knew what the problem was, I would fix it. The bulbs got smaller and stopped flowering. I tried in different conditions, but it doesn't seem to help. I sent some back to Spain last year as I did not want to kill them all, but the few I have left are just emerging. I do have hybrid seedlings from them though. I am really happy to see they are doing well somewhere else, as I know how rare and precious they are.

Thank you Anne. Your reply reminds me to be more carefully with this species. Indeed they were slightly smaller here than a year before, so I have to prevent that this will continue.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: annew on February 23, 2021, 10:30:13 AM
Things are coming into flower so quickly, it's hard to keep up with the photography.
Below: Fling, Deryn, Wee Nod, Susan Cox, Columba, and an unnamed seedling.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Andrew Gardner on February 24, 2021, 04:13:55 PM
My pot grown Cyclamineus have begun to open this week. They still take my breath away way more than any other Narcissus.[attachimg=1][attachimg=2]
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Yann on February 24, 2021, 11:41:49 PM
Narcissus albimarginatus: less than 100 plants in the wild
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Matt T on February 25, 2021, 08:20:50 AM
Narcissus albimarginatus: less than 100 plants in the wild

Thatís a terrifying statistic! And probably even fewer in cultivation?!  :-\
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on February 25, 2021, 08:35:58 AM
Narcissus albimarginatus: less than 100 plants in the wild

-  the more one should try to multiply those in cultivation!
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Karaba on February 25, 2021, 08:44:32 AM
Acis tingitana, from the same area, is also very located and with <50 mature individuals in the wild. Hopefully, it is now quite common in cultivation, at least in collection.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on February 26, 2021, 01:23:14 PM
Acis tingitana, from the same area, is also very located and with <50 mature individuals in the wild. Hopefully, it is now quite common in cultivation, at least in collection.

- seems it is around. I recieved it long ago from a friend in Eastern Germany.

Ivain - would you please let me know the citation for the scarcity mentioned above.
Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Karaba on February 26, 2021, 02:37:28 PM
Gerd, This is in Conservation assessments and Red Listing of the endemic Moroccan flora (monocotyledons): Red Listing of the Moroccan Flora (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/273706287_Conservation_assessments_and_Red_Listing_of_the_endemic_Moroccan_flora_monocotyledons_Red_Listing_of_the_Moroccan_Flora) by Rankou et al. 2015. There's distribution map for the moroccan endemic monocotyledones.

Nice pot of Acis, mine is growing and I hope to get seeds soon with my seedlings from the SRGC Seedex.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Chad on February 26, 2021, 03:56:11 PM
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Narcissus cyclamineus in an isolated self sowing population in what is nominally 'The Rose Bed'!

Chad
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on February 26, 2021, 05:48:59 PM
Yvain, thank you very much!

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on February 28, 2021, 11:21:34 AM
Narcissus x susannae

- luckily much better to maintain than its parents Nn. cantabricus and triandrus

Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: ashley on February 28, 2021, 11:35:11 AM
Magnificent Gerd.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on February 28, 2021, 01:00:48 PM
Thank you Ashley!
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on February 28, 2021, 03:05:20 PM
Narcissus x susannae

- luckily much better to maintain than its parents Nn. cantabricus and triandrus

Gerd
Be still my  beating heart! Soooo beautiful!
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Karaba on February 28, 2021, 08:34:50 PM
Narcissus x susannae

- luckily much better to maintain than its parents Nn. cantabricus and triandrus

Gerd
One more to compliment you. It's a clone form one bulb or from seeds ?

Have you some difficulties with cantabricus ? It is just fine with me, even if I 've been growing it not for a long time. I had the first flowers from seeds from V. Pilous and Rafa last year and about ten flowers this year.
With triandrus, it's a bit more complicated as I had some narcissus flies in my pot but I have quite a lot of seedlings.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on March 01, 2021, 08:51:34 AM
@Maggi: I did not suspect that I caused a heart attack - sorry for that!  :)

@Yvain: I cultivate N. cantabricus from different sources. Some of them tend to disappear suddenly without I realize why.
             Narcissus triandrus is always very short-lived.

             Gerd
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: annew on March 01, 2021, 11:25:43 AM
Narcissus x susannae

- luckily much better to maintain than its parents Nn. cantabricus and triandrus

Gerd
Wonderful sight!
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Gerdk on March 01, 2021, 04:18:17 PM
Anne, Thanks for compliments.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 09:36:09 PM
I'm adding these  photos here as they were  taken in February - they're  from narcissus grown by  Anne Wright.

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Three views of 'Mitzy'

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Two of 'Angelina'
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 09:38:14 PM
from AnneW

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  2 x N. asturiensis

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 3 of  AW 2949-1-17
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 09:40:23 PM
..and ...
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3 x   AW 3137-1-17

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2 x  AW 3333 ex N hedreanthus
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 09:44:10 PM
and....

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AW 3762-1-17 left 'Mitzy' right

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2 x AW 3762-1-17

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 2 x  AW4002 Narcissus hedreanthus
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 09:46:52 PM
next five ...


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5 x  AW 3956-1-18 - flared forms of romieuxii and cantabricus crossed
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 09:49:25 PM
and....

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AW 4471 Narcissus hedreanthus

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 3 x   AW 4291 ex Narcissus cantabricus clusii 

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AW 4500 N. cantabricus x eualbidus
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 09:51:19 PM
and....
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2 x 'Biondina'

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3 x 'Cheeky Chappie'
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 09:52:44 PM
and....

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4 x 'Chirp '
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:03:31 PM
and....

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2 x 'Extravagante'

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3 x 'Fling'
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:17:55 PM
next from Anne W  ...

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2 x 'Free Gift ' - unregistered

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3 x 'Fresh Breeze'
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:19:30 PM
and ...
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2 x 'Galantoquilla'


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3 x 'Gianna'
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:22:29 PM
next...
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2 x 'Little Dryad'


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'Little Frills '

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'Malinky'

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'Nudger'
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:32:19 PM
more  from AnneW
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  5 x 'Miss Poppy' - named for  Anne's new  grand-daughter.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:35:45 PM
next...
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2 x  Narcissus zaianicus lutescens x cantabricus 


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3 x 'Punk'
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:37:42 PM
and...
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3 x 'Second Fiddle'

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2x 'Wee Dote'
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:42:25 PM
and ....
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3 x 'Speedie'

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from top left down ..... 'Trumpet Voluntary', 'Speedie', 'Gianna', 'Miss Poppy'

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'Wee Nod'
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:44:20 PM
and...

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4 x  'Trumpet Voluntary'
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:46:32 PM
and ....
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3 x 'Starlit'


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'Susan Cox' - raised by  forumist  Lesley  Cox in New  Zealand  and  named  for  her  daughter.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2021, 10:48:44 PM
last  few  for  February from AnneW
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 various N.  cantabricus seedlings
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: Jan Jeddeloh on March 04, 2021, 04:46:54 AM
I adore Anne Wright's little cyclamineus hybrids. I've gotten seed from her and most of it's done well.

Anne, I'm having lust issues.  Do you export to the US? Otherwise I may need to get busy with a paintbrush myself.
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: annew on March 04, 2021, 08:25:25 PM
I adore Anne Wright's little cyclamineus hybrids. I've gotten seed from her and most of it's done well.

Anne, I'm having lust issues.  Do you export to the US? Otherwise I may need to get busy with a paintbrush myself.
Yes we do! Or at least we usually do  :D
Title: Re: Narcissus February 2021
Post by: annew on March 04, 2021, 08:27:07 PM
last  few  for  February from AnneW
 various N.  cantabricus seedlings

Phew! Thanks Maggi! Stirling Aberdeen effort!
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