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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Hans J on May 25, 2008, 05:27:52 PM
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Hi all,
here has start now the flowering season of my rainlilies and there relatives .
First ( like in every year ) some yellow :
Z. longistyla ( seeds ex PBS )
Z. spec. Argentina
I suppose it is the same species ...maybe they are from different localities
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Here a pretty rare plant :
Haylockia andina
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and some more :
Z. spec. R.S.
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Beautiful collection Hans ! Are they outside in the rock garden ??
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Thanks Luc !
No - they are in pots -outside of my greenhouse -but protectet from rain .
In winter they are in my greenhouse ( together with my cacti ).
I made this pics always in my garden -before some rocks - to give them a touch of "natural habit" !
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Hi Hans, I always thought that "rain lilies", as the members of genus Zephyranthes are commonly known, flowers in summer after a good rain. Do you know other rain lilies that bloom in spring?
Your collection of Amaryllidaceae is really stunning!
Ciao
Alberto
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Alberto ,
I'm surprised - my "rainlilies" start always in this time and flowering the whole summer until September ....
we had in last days a lot of rain and now the temperatures rise ....
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I like the yellow one :D
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My common pink Zephyranthes seem to herald rain in autumn here in South Australia. Only about 3 flowers this last autumn as it was so very dry.
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Hans,
Very, very nice. I love that Argentinian species.... great form and depth of colour to it. It almost looks an egg yolk yellow rather than the lemony colours?
Haylockia is something I've never heard of before. Looks a bit like a cross between a Crocus and a Zephyranthes. Very special!!!! 8)
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Thank you Paul 8)
Maybe you can have later seeds of the argentian species - Z. longistyla has produced fruits !
the other ( unnamed ) makes no seeds -I suppose it is all the same clone
I regret it with Haylockia -but this plants makes until today never seeds ...and the multiplication is very slow ( but I'm happy that this plant life here .....)
In my eyes are they much prettier than all Crocus ....but dont tell it Thomas ;D ;D ;D
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Hans!! That's akin to blasphemy!!!! :o :o ;) I won't tell Thomas, but can't guarantee he won't read it here himself! ;D
I really must look up Haylockia and see what I can find out. Looking at your pics at first glance it really does look like a Crocus with that outer colouration etc. Definitely worth keeping an eye out for in the future if I ever come across it. What sort of size is the plant and the flowers?
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Paul : dont worry ....Thomas will never read any threads about Zephyranthes :P
Good luck for your search for Haylockia .....here in Europe is it ( I believe so ) not aviable !!
To your question : the size of this plants ( flowers and leaves ) is really similar to a small Crocus ....
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I my dear - one upon a time I had two good friends.... :-\ :'(
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:D :D :D
WOW - Thomas is wake up :o
and he read other treads than Crocus ::)
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I my dear - one upon a time I had two good friends.... :-\ :'(
Thomas,
That's nice. What happened to them? <accompanied by a look of total innocence! ;)>
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;D ;D ;D 8)
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and now ( special for Thomas ) 8)
Zephyranthes macrosyphon ( grown from seed ex AGS )
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...and another special for Thomas (fortunately I am far, far away from where he lives, hi,hi)
Zephyranthes grandiflora
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Hans, I am sure that Thomas will agree with me that your lovely Zephyranthes macrosyphon is, in fact, a rare and beautiful pink crocus ;) 8)
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Maggi :
I believe also Thomas likes much all this nice Amaryllidaceae .....but he will not confess it..... :P
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Maggi :
I believe also Thomas likes much all this nice Amaryllidaceae .....but he will not confess it..... :P
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WHAT???? ME????? Amaryllidaceae????? NEVER!!! ::) :-*
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Thomas :
::) dont forget your Hippeastrum ,Crinum, Galathus, Leucojum ..... ;D
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Thomas :
::)dont forget your Hippeastrum ,Crinum, Galathus, Leucojum ..... ;D
......and Narcissus and Sternbergia - but as you said: I would never confess :-X (to disagree with you ;)
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OK - now I understand the word : ...der ungläubige Thomas.... ;)
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_(Apostel)
anyway -here is a other beautiful Zephyranthes :
Z. primulina ( grown from seeds ex DKG )
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Hi Hans, I always thought that "rain lilies", as the members of genus Zephyranthes are commonly known, flowers in summer after a good rain. Do you know other rain lilies that bloom in spring?
Alberto, Zephyranthes atamasco blooms anytime from mid-winter to early spring in its native range (southeastern North America).
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OK - now I understand the word : ...der ungläubige Thomas.... ;)
OK, you doubting Thomases, here are two Zephyranthes relatives from my garden: Hymenocallis liriosme (blooming today) and Sprekelia formosissima (blooming about a month ago). Both are currently grown here as pot plants, but both have survived winters here in the past in protected sites.
Hard to believe, isn't it, that Sprekelia has been grown in European gardens since the sixteenth century!
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Hi,
glad to show you all this flower :
Zephyranthes "La Buffa Rosa"
sown by me from seeds in year 2004 from a friend from USA
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that looks to be growing well for you, Hans.
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Yes Maggi - this plants Zephyranthes / Habranthus growing fine here in my climate !
::) maybe I should cross it with Cyrtanthus spiralis ::)
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Beautiful pictures Hans.
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Hans, I have Z. La Buffa Rosa too but it is only a young plant and hasn't flowered yet. I can now look forward to next year.
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Hans, fine plant! Do you know the meaning of the name, really strange name?
Ciao
Alberto
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Alberto ,
yes I know it is a strange name - but I have not found much in the internet ....
I have read anywhere ( but where ? ) that some sientist will make a own var. or ssp. for this plants ....they look really a bit different from other Zephyranthes and the color of the leave is also different - also it seems they comes always true from seed .
The only I know is that they came from Mexico .....it is a bit mystery ....
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Alberto and Hans, it seems Z. La Buffa Rosa is named after a place in Mexico see
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qjEBt3MPGZAC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Zephyranthes+Buffa+Rosa&source=web&ots=aGU7VxHxm4&sig=AyjlTmWdtkGhuOd1y8F_Sa7hokg&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA31,M2
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Thank you David !
thats a interesting information !
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I have found on the book "Bulbs for war climates" by Howard that la 'La Buffa Rosa' had to be written Z. labufarosea, a natural hybrid, whose name (La-bufa and not La Buffa) suggests the mountain on which it is found...Thus the name could be translated as "the pink mountain".
Alberto
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I'd always seen this written before as labuffarosea, rather than split up into 3 separate parts. Interesting to know that the double f in that name was incorrect. My plant purchased under that name a few years ago was unfortunately incorrect.
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I'd always seen this written before as labuffarosea, rather than split up into 3 separate parts. Interesting to know that the double f in that name was incorrect. My plant purchased under that name a few years ago was unfortunately incorrect.
This name question is an interesting coincidence for me. Only a week or two ago I used an image of this Zephyranthes in our local rock garden group's newsletter. I spelled the name "Labuffarosea" in the draft version. When the person who provided the image saw that, she requested that I change the spelling to "Labuffarosa". Now Alberto has provided a third possibility: "Labufarosa".
I'm still looking into this name question; I'll let everyone know what I find out on this end.
But I can tell you this about the commercial "Labuffarosa" under whatever name: it is a hybrid swarm and is extremely variable. To further add to the potential confusion, the purported parental species were once placed in different genera, one in Zephyranthes and one in Cooperia.
Take a look at this link to get an idea of the variation:
http://www.yuccado.com
And type Zephyranthes sp. Labuffarosa into the search box (and type it exactly as I have given it here with the period after sp). You will be very surprised to see how much variation there is in this hybrid swarm. Paul, you especially might want to do this because the plant you received might very well fall within this variation.
I believe that the proprietors of Yucca Do Nursery are responsible for introducing the commercial material currently distributed under this name.
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and here is a information from PBS :
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/ZephyranthesHybridsTwo#Labuffarosea
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This is the one I got some years before as Z. "Labouffarosea". I always knew that there have to be a correct name - now I call it Z.labufarosa, thanks Alberto.
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Renate :
I take a look this morning on IPNI for this name -sorry but it is not listet !
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Renate's looks more like mine does I think. Maybe mine is correct after all! I didn't realise it was a swarm with lots of difference. I'll see if I can dig up a pic of it to post. I also have some coming along from seed from a seed exchange.... I repotted them today. Was amusing when I realised what it was, given the discussion going on here.
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Please, the correct name is Z. labufarosea! (almost according to T. Howard).
Hans: on IPNI you will find only species.
Alberto
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Alberto ,
I have written today to a specialist from USA - maybe he can help us what is the correct name -from this man I have also received the seeds ....
After my knowlegde if it is not a species and so it must be written in this form :
Zephyranthes 'Labufarosea' or Zephyranthes X 'Labufarosea' .....but not Z. labufarosea -if it is written in this form so it indicate that a species ....
Please correct me if I'm wrong !
If I have new informations so I will post it.....
Hans
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Hans,
If not a species, it is usually written as you have outlined. Italics and lower case starting letter indicate species status. Quotes and Uppercase starting letter indicate varietal name.
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Hans and Paul: I simply reported what written in the Howard's book. I think that as it was thought to be a species he wrote the name in italics and has not changed after he says it is an hybrid. That's all.
Hans you are right writing as you suggest.
Alberto
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Alberto ,
yes I have understand that have reportet ;) in this case has Howard made a missunderstandig name .
Paul - OK I'm rigth my writing ....thanks ;D
as all know :
"this plants show the motto of the german cacti society ":
In minimo quoque fidelis
8) ::) ;D
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Hi all ,
here some new pics from today:
here is now the "true " Habranthus robusta ( seeds ex DKG )
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and some more :
Zeph. andersonii ( seeds ex PBS )
Zeph. martinezii ( seeds from UK )
Zeph. candida ( plants from friends )
Zeph. clorosolen ( plants from friends )
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Hans,
All great pics!! Are you sure that is martinezii? I've always seen it as palest pink/white with a pink throat, never striped like in your pic. Then again, it could be as variable as laufarosea for all I know. Whatever yours is I rather like it, and the clorosolen is just such a pristine white and lovely broad petals.... best white rainlily I've ever seen I think.
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Paul ,
I know this problem with Z.martinezii bit I'm pretty shure that my plants are correct named -but I grow also a lot of other types from this species - normaly I'm to lazy to make pics from martinezzi or tubispathus ....they they looks so nice this morning ....
Z. clorosolen is really something special - they are former under Cooperia and other - I think they are different from the other Zephyranthes.
To the pic from Z.clorosolen -thats was really a hard work -I must make 5 or 6 times pics from it -the color is so special !
Now after compere with Z."La Buffa Rosa" I think it's could really a hybrid with a similar plant...
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Hans,
Super Zephyranthes, interesting colours!
How long do the flowers last? Are there differences between the species you cultivate?
I suspect they all belong to the ephemeral section.
Gerd
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Gerd ,
Thank you ;)
The flowers hold for one or two days ( depending on the weather ) - but there are always new flowers !
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Gerd,
If you really want ephemeral.... try Zephyranthes minima. An absolute cutie, flowers are about 1cm wide and white with red reverse.... but the flower only last a few hours at the most. I had it for about 3 years before I ever managed to see an open flower.... they open mid morning and are closed by early afternoon. Then it was another couple of years before I managed to sight another one. last year I saw them regularly, but I think by then the clump was large enough that it produced so many flowers I couldn't miss them. Every flower sets seed if allowed to. I love it, but ephemeral is definitely something you'd use to describe it! ;D
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Hi all ,
here is now a other plant from this strain of hybrids ( found by Fairey & Schoenfeld in Mexico )
it is called
'Big Dude'
but my friend who given me this seeds wrote me :
"this is not 'Big Dude', but seed collected from 'Big Dude' "
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Hans
I admired your snowdrops and paeonias, but your Zephyranthes and othe Amaryllidacae have me drooling. I was wondering what to put in my fourth greenhouse (when erected), and now I know.
When you go on holiday, who looks after these treasures - a great responibility.
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Arthur ....
I must first look in my dictionary under "drooling" ...never heard before ::)
There is no problem when I'm away ....
;D I have a big monster with 6 heads -it watch by day and night for my collection ;D
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Hans,
Drooling means Salivating. Like when you smell something delicious and you start salivating, but in this case you see something nice plant-wise that you want to grow and you start salivating all over your keyboard. Slobbering can also fit if needed.... it is just a bit more extreme. Like those big drooly dogs that end up slobbering all over you, but in this case you're drooling so much over the plants that you see here on the forums that you end up slobbering all over the keyboard. ;D
I am so glad this is a gardening forum, or else this discussion could be quite risque! ;) ;D
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:D Paul OK ...
In germany we say :
water runs together in my mouth
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Arthur ....
I must first look in my dictionary under "drooling" ...never heard before ::)
There is no problem when I'm away ....
;D I have a big monster with 6 heads -it watch by day and night for my collection ;D
Paul is correct and the keyboard is a mess.
I di not mean there was a danger of someone stealing your treasures, but who does the watering - or are you able to only take holidays when they are resting?
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Arthur :D
It was only a warning ::)
Now to your question with watering :
We have very nice neighbars which always water our plant in house and terasse ......but never I trust them to water my bulb plants and cacti ! .....it is not a problem if they stay without water for 14 days ......and look :
my Cyrtanthus spiralis did flower after this break !
Also is it not a problem if my cacti are without watering ( they get normaly water all 3 or 4 weeks )
all the other plants in borders ( peonies and more ) get never artifical rain ....
In my eyes dies always more plants from overwatering than from to few water ....and I have no plants which not like my treatment -they will not survive here....
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Hans,
How big is the seedling of 'Big Dude'? I forgot to ask yesterday when I got sidetracked by drooling.
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Paul ,
to your question :
the flower stem is 14 cm height , the diameter of the flower 6,5 cm
I have send the pic to this person from which the seeds come - here is his answer :
"The coloration is about the same, 'Big Dude' has broader petals."
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Hi all ,
here are now as promised some new informations to Z. 'La Buffa Rosa' :
I have asked my friend who gave me the seeds what is the correct spelling -here is his answer :
"I can't answer your question about sp. Labuffarosa vs 'Labuffarosea', I've listed ut on the wiki under both names."
I have also asked a plantfriend from Mexico - what is the correct spelling of the name from this mts . ( La Bufa or La Buffa ) - this is his answer :
"There are lots of hills , mountains and rock formations called "Bufa" or "Bufadora", the world means the noise who make the air in the way againts a hole or a strong breathe "bufar", many places make the noise and recibe the name, do you have another geographycal reference?"
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Thanks for the info Hans. By your friend's last comments, both words he used only have a single "f" in them, which would certainly I think point to it really being labufarosa/ea, which helps sort out part of the spelling problem. Doesn't help with the "a" or "ea" problem though. ::)
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Zephyranthes citrina starts to flower now in my garden
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What a beautiful Zephyranthes!
I love this flower and I became crazy when before few days I found two bulbs of Zephyranthes robustus which was forgotten by me! :o How can i be so scatterbrained..
I immediately put them in pot and They also immediately formed leaves..The plants began to grow very fast and already has few leaves.I hope to preserve them..I am happy that at least They look healthy.
This is one of the most blooming members in Amaryllidaceae and I don't want to loose It.
Here in this topic I see many lovely Zephyr lilies!
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Here now the Zephyranthes with the smallest flowers :
Zephranthes minima
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Hans,
Tiny, ephemeral flowers, but they really are so cute aren't they? ;)
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I have never been heard about this species before.It's so tiny and at the same time so gorgeous! :)
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And, in my climate at least, the flowers only last a few hours each. But they do produce a lot of flowers, and every one produces a seedpod if you let it so you always have more coming up.
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Hi all ,
for all who interestet for seeds of Zephyranthes I have postet a offer here :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2429.0
I will regular update this list with new seeds
if anybody is interestet for swap with my please send me a PM
Best regards
Hans
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Here is Habranthus robustus -I have received this plant from Brasil :
Habranthus robustus
I think now is clear the difference between Zeph. grandiflora and Habr. robustus to see....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1920.0
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today now a other plant more from this strain of hybrids ( found by Fairey & Schoenfeld in Mexico )
it is called :
'Cookie Cutter Moon'
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This is Rhodophiala bifida, sometimes called oxblood lily. Although it is native to far southern South America, the stock in wide circulation here in the US originates from feral plants in Texas. It is sometimes called oxblood lily.
This plant is typical of what I call oporanthous bulbs: bulbs which bloom in late summer before the official start of autumn in late September. In our gardens, Lycoris are typical examples.
USDA zone 7 is probably the northern limit for outdoor culture of Rhodophiala in eastern North America. A bad winter here will set them back.
I’ll be sowing seed of several other species very soon.
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Here are a couple of pics of my (bought as!) Zephyranthes 'Labufarosa' taken today-sorry the first one is out of focus. We discussed a couple of weeks ago how the name of the plant should be written, without, I think, coming to a firm decision. I have been waiting for a couple of days for the flowers to open fully and now they have I wonder if my plant is 'as bought'! I did wonder if it could be Z. candida, but then again I had a look at a Site Jim recommended and it seems that there are a number of forms of Z. Labufarosa, possibly as many as there are of alternative spellings! ;D What do others think?
The Site is at http://www.yuccado.com/displayengine
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I have no idea what it is (other than that it is not Z. candida), but it sure is a nice one! 8)
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David :
my idea is your plant could be Z.traubii ....
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Hans, I have looked at pictures and description of Z. traubii and it could be my plant. But then I went back to the Site that Jim mentioned
http://www.yuccado.com
on reaching the Site type into the Search box Zephyranthes sp. Labuffarosa
It could just as equally be right. What do you think?
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David :
I can not see on your pic the color of the leaves - by my plants of 'La Buffarosa' and relatet are all the leaves really green - by Z. traubii ( and similar ) are the color of the leaves more grey green ....
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Hans, the leaf colour on my plant is green but not grey/green.
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Hi all ,
now is open here :
Rhodophiala bifida 'Oxbloodlily'
I have received this plants from a friend from USA 8)
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Hans
A very nice plant - a really rich red.
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A beauty Hans.
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Here is a picture of Habranthus gracilifolius under the rain!
Alberto
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;D you have rain ???
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Your plant is of all beauties Hans Thank you
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It has been a rather (unusually) wet summer and the rain-lilies have been excelling themselves!
First, the ubiquitous Habranthus tubispathus
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And it's pink form,
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The next we got as H. martinezii but there is some conjecture about this. The flowers weren't fully open yesterday and the rain will hav eput paid to them today, I fear.
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Others are also about to flower so I hope to get more pics in the next couple of days,
cheers
fermi
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Fermi, thanks for posting these. As far as Habranthus martinezii is concerned (and I have mentioned this before somewhere on the Forum) Brian Mathew, in his 'Growing Bulbs: The Complete Practical Guide', says is 'very firmly a winter grower'. I am growing H martinezii as a winter grower (growing well so far) and Hans Joshco is (I think) growing it as a summer grower. So, at some time in the future there may be a means of comparing plants.
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Dear David Nicholson ::)
:o please dont mispelling my name :o
Hans
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Sorry Hans, two many fingers and keys and far too little brain. Just to prove I can do it when I try-Hans Joschko ;D
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David - no bigger problem ;)
maybe write only : Hans J :D
thats much easier 8)
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Here are a few more pics from the garden this morning.
I posted a pic of these habranthus on the SH thread, this is a close-up,
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This is a seedling from the plant I got as "Russell Manning" from Discovery Bulbs (now closed unfortunately) about 8 years ago.
This is "Russell Manning" as I grow it,
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I've requested seed of it from the NARGS seedex so will be able to compare it in a few years (if I get it and it grows).
Here's a clump of "my H. martinezii" with "my Russell Manning" for comparision,
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And although we've been advised to grow Zephyranthes flavissima in a wet position, this one is in a raised bed but probably would flower better in a damper situation.
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This is a commerically sourced form of the hybrid H. robustus x H. martinezii,
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And this is my own hybrid between "my H. Russell Manning" and "my H. martinezii"
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cheers
fermi
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A delight, Fermi, each and every one!
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;) Maggi ;)
you should collect more Amaryllidaceae ;D
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.... and me. Lovely stuff Fermi.
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I posted these pics earlier to the SH thread.
Does anyone have any info about this species Z. zeymeri, e.g. is it true to name?
the flower is a bit smaller than Z. grandiflora's.
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cheers
fermi
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Hi Fermi:
The name Z. zeyheri is not valid. I tis used only in Australia and for several species, mostly Habranthus gracilifolius.
The image of your plants look like Z. macrosiphon, a winter dormant. spring flowering Mexican species. The color is the same as in Z. grandiflora, the flower is somehow smaller. The main difference is that in Z. grandiflora the style looks "lying down" not somewhat erect as in macrosiphon. Besides, macrosiphon produces seed readily and in Z.grandiflora seed production is almost unknown of.
Regards
Alberto
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Hi Fermi:
The name Z. zeyheri is not valid. I tis used only in Australia and for several species, mostly Habranthus gracilifolius.
The image of your plants look like Z. macrosiphon, a winter dormant. spring flowering Mexican species. The color is the same as in Z. grandiflora, the flower is somehow smaller. The main difference is that in Z. grandiflora the style looks "lying down" not somewhat erect as in macrosiphon. Besides, macrosiphon produces seed readily and in Z.grandiflora seed production is almost unknown of.
Regards
Alberto
Thanks, Alberto,
I'll amend the label; it is obviously fertile as a seedpod is forming already.
I must check out the styles when next they flower.
cheers
fermi
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Hi Fermi:
There are many images in the web where it can be clearly seen the "prostrate"
style of Z. grandiflora.
Best wishes for a Happy Holidays
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Hans, the Sprekelia continue flowering, I take this photo in the morning, as soon it finish flowering send you the bulbil regards Ketus
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Hans, the Sprekelia continue flowering, I take this photo in the morning, as soon it finish flowering send you the bulbil regards Ketus
Ketus ,
thank you - thats a good news -I will write you a PM ;D
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from the SRGC Seed Ex. I have seed of Habranthus hendersonii but I have not been able to find any Google information about the species, nor is it in the PBS Wiki. Does anyone grow it please and does anyone have a picture?
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David ,
I suppose it is meant : Habr. andersonii ;)
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I suppose that is a possibility Hans, anyone have other information??
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David, I think it should be Habranthus andersonii, there is a pic here.
http://www.bulbsociety.org/GALLERY_OF_THE_WORLDS_BULBS/GRAPHICS/Habranthus/Habranthuslist.shtml
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Here is a pic from my plants :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1825.msg52774#msg52774
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Nice, well worth growing. Thanks Hans and Michael.
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I see, from the Kew Checklist, that Habranthus andersonii is a synonym of H. tubispathus
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Hi:
Hendersonii is a Triteleia. The most common Habranthus is H. tubispathus that for long was known as H. andersonii. The name andersonii is still used despite the long time it has benn invalid and it is common to see in collections both tubispathus and andersoni as separate plants.
Best regards
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Hi:
Hendersonii is a Triteleia. The most common Habranthus is H. tubispathus that for long was known as H. andersonii. The name andersonii is still used despite the long time it has benn invalid and it is common to see in collections both tubispathus and andersoni as separate plants.
Best regards
Hi Alberto, many thanks for your input, it is great to have access to your knowledge and experience on the Forum. I'm going to need a very big pot label when I sow these seeds so that I can write all the possibilities on it. ;D Are you aware please if the seeds of Triteleia and Habranthus look similar?
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Hi David:
No, the Triteleia are black and round, like Allium seed. In Habranthus, Zephyranthes, and other the seeds are like black very thin round "paper" circles of half circles, a lot larger than Triteleia seed.
Regards
Alberto
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Hi David:
No, the Triteleia are black and round, like Allium seed. In Habranthus, Zephyranthes, and other the seeds are like black very thin round "paper" circles of half circles, a lot larger than Triteleia seed.
Regards
Alberto
Thanks Alberto, the seeds I have are Habranthus seeds then.
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I was most interested to see a photo of Crinum stuhlmannii posted to the PBS wiki by Rogan Roth ...
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/CrinumSpeciesFour
... it's a beauty!
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Time to revive this thread as the rain-lilies are flowering again for us!
Zephyranths "Grandjax"
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Z. "Ajax"
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Habranthus martinezii (but maybe just a pink H. tubispathus)
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H. tubispathus
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And its "Apricot" or "Salmon" form,
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And a seedling raised from the H. robustus selection "Russell Manning"
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Fermi some pretty fine flowers there. I like the 'Grandjax' especially
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Fermi some pretty fine flowers there. I like the 'Grandjax' especially
I'll do you a swap for some of your white calostemmas! ;D
cheers
fermi
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Will be happy to Fermi when they flower so that I can plot the exact spots. They are not all that thrilling as they are not a clean white as far as I remember. The pink calostemmas always stand out so much better.
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Fermi,
The 'Ajax' looks interesting. Looks a bit larger to me than the usual yellows? Nice!! That salmon tubispathus looks great too (but really, all your pics do).
Re the white Calostemma.... me too (although I am certain we have had this discussion previously haven't we? ???). Maybe it is just old age catching up with me. ::)
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Zephyranthes lindleyana,Mexico
I have noticed that the flower of this Zephyrathes over a long time span beyond a week
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Allexandro what a great colour! :)
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Thanks Arillady
an other in flower today Zephyrantes primulina ,Mexico
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I agree with Pat... what a good strong pink!! Nice delicate yellow on the primulina as well. 8)
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Zephyranthes drummondii
a lot perfumed
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I do not know this pure white Zephyranthes, it is lovely indeed.
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thanks Maggi
its fragrance is similar hymenocallis sulphur queen
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More widely known as Cooperia pedunculata. The Texan bulb Flora is quite rich and most are easy and dependable.
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I think this one has a good blue colour to the leaves too, doesn't it? Can't quite tell from the picture, but I think this is one of the identifying factor's for the species.... if memory serves me?
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Both
Cooperia pedunculata (Zephyranthes drummondii)
Cooperia drummondii (Zephyranthes chlorosolen)
have broad greyish leaves
An easy way to tell them apart is the floral tube
about 5 cm. long in C. pedunculata
about 10 cm. long in C. drummondii
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What a small difference to note between species - do they come from the same areas too?
A clump of the white would be lovely.
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They are found over a large area centred mainly in Texas. They are very easy to grow and long lived provided they have good root run (now someone will post saying that he grows a clump in a 5 cm. pot!). The flowers are snow white and have great substance like sparkling with gold dust (or better, silver dust). There is a third species with white flowers in the same area but the leaves are quite narrow and canaliculate, easy to tell from the other two. All three are intensely fragrant although I find the scent a little intoxicating, some medicine bit to it.
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White Zephyrantes from Xalapa, Veracruz, México possible miradonensis
White Zephyrantes from Cuernavaca, Morelos, México , the flower are cup shape
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Here is a other Zephyranthes spec. from Mexico :
could this be maybe Zephyranthes minuta ?
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A new plant is flowering for me today :D
Grown from seed - collectet in Argentina 2003 ...no idea with the name -maybe a new species ?
Have fun 8)
Hans
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Lovely, Hans. I like the green and white combination. From the side it reminds me of a Rhodophiala flower.
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Hi Paul ,
it is not a Rhodophiala .....thats not Rhodophiala area :o
...it's a Zephyranthus/Habranthus ....but which ?
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Hans,
I wasn't intending to imply that I thought it was a Rhodophiala, just that the flower reminded me of one (I like the form of Rhodophiala flowers). I was most definitely not intending to question your Habranthus/Zephyranthes ID. Sorry for the confusion.
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Paul ,
nooooooooooooo problem ! I have understand you well ;D
I have postet in last year pics of a other Zephyranthes :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1825.msg45877#msg45877
They from a other area -but they look similar ....and they have red color on the backsite of the petals !
I'm glad to discuss with you ;)
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That other one you posted last year is very spidery isn't it? Unusually pointed petals. Different, although I much prefer your new unknown from today. ;D
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Hans,
I have no idea what it is but it looks very nice.
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Renate ,Paul and others :
I will have in this year seeds of the "spidery plants" and also seeds from this yellow :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1825.msg45875#msg45875
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Hans compliments, extraordinary your flower :P
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I didn't want to put this out on its own thread. Flowering today:
Lapiedra martinezii
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That is nice Simon.
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Hi Simon ,
congratulation to this nice plant !!!
I'm a bit surprised that it is flowering in this time ......Alberto has postet pics in last year September ...
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2091.0
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Thanks Hans and David. I am surprised too- normally it waits until September-last year it flowered at the end of August- this year now. It has been dry since spring and came up on its own with no prompting.
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Simon
very nice
I possess Lapiedra martinezii, I seed of three years, how much I must attend in order to see the flowers?
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new to bloom today :) Habranthus versicolor
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Very interesting Alessandro !
this is a species which I look since long time ....
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What a nice Habranthus - will have to keep an eye out for that one.
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Simon
very nice
I possess Lapiedra martinezii, I seed of three years, how much I must attend in order to see the flowers?
Sorry for the late reply, Alessandro. My original bulb was bought in 2000- it was not flowering size and took about 4 years to flower the first time. I have never managed to pollinate mine. So I am unsure how long it will take from seed.
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today in flower
Habranthus brachyandrus
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Alessandro, I love your photos of Habranthus brachyandrus, and it looks happy in the rain but does the flower open more?
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Alessandro, you grow some wonderful plants.
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David thanks,
Ragged, I am sorry but I have not been able to resume the opened flower, too much late for me
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new to bloom , Zephyranthes citrina
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Lovely Zephyranthes citrina, Alessandro, you must be very happy... :)
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an other zephyranthes,Z. flavissima
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the flower candid white of Habranthus magnoi 8)
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Lovely Alessandro, I really like the white Habranthus.
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Thanks David
this is the first year to bloom
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Habranthus gracilifolius, from the color not seem being H. gracilifolius?
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This turns out difficult in the photo, the flower much little and of short duration
Zephyranthes minima
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Congratulations, you all have wonderfull Zephyranthes, it's amazing how they grow so well.
I have one bulb of Zephyranthes citrina for some 3 years, but it never bloomed, I don't know what is wrong with it. The leaves just grow a little and dry. I've already changed the soil some times, but it don't seem to notice that. What can I do to make it grow and flower?
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Cris
I would not know. Of winter I hold the pot in cold greenhouse, and in I put them to spring to outside, every two days I give water, and take the sun to the morning
Alessandro
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Alessandro, I don't water it so often, can it be the problem? I water it once a week more or less. Maybe if I start water more and give it a more shady place? It is on the partial shade, but here there are less humidity and the leaves of some plants dry a bit on the top, as this case. I would like very much to can see it's flower one day, but it seems it is being a hardy work. :(
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H. robustus, Zephyranthes citrina and Z. grandiflora, all in flower today.
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Oron much beautiful,
your H. robustus has a line white to the center
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Lovely flowers Oron.
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Thanks to you both.
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Gorgeous flowers, Oron, H. robustus, Zephyranthes citrina and Z. grandiflora look lovely together.
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Oron, very beautiful flowers you have, the Z. citrina is lovely.
Mine in flower now
Habranthus robustus (grown from seed)
Zephyranthes minina (also from seed)
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Cris, compliments, must say that the Zephyranthes minima turns out difficult to photograph
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Flowering just now Hannonia hesperidum.
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Hi all, I'd like to show you my pot of Zephyranthes candida.
Alberto
Zephyranthes candida
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Nice pot full Alberto. Simon, your Hannonia is a new one on me, it looks very promising.
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I was looking through my pictures a while ago and came across these, taken in early January this year. The plants are north of Durban, on the KZN coast and seem to have naturalised quite happily.
Habranthus robustus
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Very nice indeed Calvin. I envy your climate, I very much doubt I would get such a lovely clump here in wet and muggy Devon.
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David ,
my suggestion for your climate would be :
Crinum natans
Crinum japonicum
Crinum campanulatum
;D ;D ;D
Hans
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I was looking through my pictures a while ago and came across these, taken in early January this year. The plants are north of Durban, on the KZN coast and seem to have naturalised quite happily.
Zephyranthes grandiflora (?)
That slope seems to be suiting them very well.... I suppose there is little disturbance for them and so they have this chance to colonise. Lovely to see 8)
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Alessandro, very dificult to photograph, I could not to take a photo with the flower opened, I did not arrive at tim to do it.
Alberto, congratulations, it's a wonderfull pot of Z.candida. I wish one day to see mine like that.
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David ,
my suggestion for your climate would be :
Crinum natans
Crinum japonicum
Crinum campanulatum
;D ;D ;D
Hans
Hans, I think even Marsh Lilies would put up their hands in disgust at what I could offer them.
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I've posted these pics in the Todays Flowers thread in the Bulbs General pages as we had been having a discussion about Habranthus martinezii but will post them here too.
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David :
what's are "Marsh Lilies" ?
never heard before ....
??? ??? ???
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David, what are Marsh Lilies?
Alberto
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today it was frustrating for me with wrong named plants :
Cooperia spec. (seeds ex PBS )
Z.andersonii ( seeds es PBS )
Z. mexiana ( seeds ex AGS )
.....all are H.tubispathus .... :'(
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Hans and Alberto, 'marsh lily' is the 'common name' for Crinums in South Africa according to "The Colour Encyclopedia of Cape Bulbs"
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Hi all, I'd like to show you my pot of Zephyranthes candida.
Alberto
Zephyranthes candida
Remarkable they said, I have had a single flower and then stop
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Flowering just now Hannonia hesperidum.
nice flower, and not common
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Alessandro, very dificult to photograph, I could not to take a photo with the flower opened, I did not arrive at tim to do it.
Alberto, congratulations, it's a wonderfull pot of Z.candida. I wish one day to see mine like that.
Cris
the slid year I have not been able to make photo of Z. minimal, to the evening is too much late
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Hi all, I'd like to show you my pot of Zephyranthes candida.
Alberto
Zephyranthes candida
Hi Alberto
here is my pot of Z. candida from Germany ;D
it is easy ....you have to give them always a bit of "Zuccero" :P
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Hans, it looks like your 'Zuccero' (or you mean 'Zucchero', either the sugar and the singer) is not so fine as Italian one! You can see how many flowers in a single pot! and large and tall! ;D ;D ;D
Albert
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Alberto ,
we had no hail ...so this is the reason ::)
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Today I catched a flower opened ;D finaly I made it.
They are sooooo little ::)
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Flowering now
Zephyranthes sp
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Cris,
I'd been growing Zeph minima for about 3 or 4 years before I ever managed to see a flower of it open. They're only open for a few hours. Once the clump establishes enough you do tend to get a bunch of flowers, which increases the chance of seeing some of them open by quite a bit. ;D
Simon,
I too have to comment on your Hannonia hesperidum, albeit somewhat belatedly. I've only caught up with this topic now, after a month or more. Could you tell us more about this one? I've never even heard of the genus before.
Thanks in anticipation. 8)
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Just catching up in this thread, Hans J, David, Cris some great looking flowers!
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Simon,
I too have to comment on your Hannonia hesperidum, albeit somewhat belatedly. I've only caught up with this topic now, after a month or more. Could you tell us more about this one? I've never even heard of the genus before.
Thanks in anticipation. 8)
Paul, I have had the Hannonia since 2003 and it has slowly increased from 1 to 4 bulbs. These look like they will split again this year and I also finally have seed set on a few of the flowers. It flowers well for me here after a dry summer rest. Apart from that all I know is that it is rare in the wild and from Morocco. Its leaf form and growth habit are very similar to Vagaria olivieri- though to me its flowers look more like Lapiedra.
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Flowering now
Zephyranthes sp
Cris
nice seems to be Z. citrina
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Simon,
Any chance of a pic of the whole plant?
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Simon,
Any chance of a pic of the whole plant?
Paul, I shall ask the maestro ;)
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Cris,
I'd been growing Zeph minima for about 3 or 4 years before I ever managed to see a flower of it open. They're only open for a few hours. Once the clump establishes enough you do tend to get a bunch of flowers, which increases the chance of seeing some of them open by quite a bit. ;D
Hi Paul T, it's realy difficult to get the flowers opened. A few days ago they were some to open, but when I saw it it was already forming the seed. Oh what a difficult plant ::)
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Flowering now
Zephyranthes sp
Cris
nice seems to be Z. citrina
Hi Alessandro, I was searching a bit and found one that seem mine: Zeph. flavissima. It has the extremity of the leaves more pointed. What do you think?
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Hi
Can you help me to identify this plant?
It belongs to a friend, but is still without surname.
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Whatever it is Cris it's very nice.
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Arillady, tanks.
I hope to can identify it, it's very beatiful :)
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It reminds me of a pale robusta, but I don't think the shape is quite right?
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Just a note to suggest that you might enjoy seeing this page:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4382.msg116659#msg116659
.... to see some wonderful scenery and flowers in the grasslands of Brasil. 8)
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Tanks Maggy :D
My new seedlings:
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..... :) is it not beautiful ?
Zephyrantes versicolor
Thanks to a nice friend from South Africa :D
Hans 8)
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Hans, very fine! I hope you get seeds!
Alberto
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Alberto ::)
....shure I have it pollinatet ... ;D
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.... and this one is very pretty also Hans.
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.... and this one is very pretty also Hans.
Thank you David ;D
Hans 8)
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I'm delighted it's flowering for you Hans. How did you get it to flower so soon? It obviously recognizes the touch of a true botanical curator! ;D 8)
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Very nice indeed Hans. Bravo
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Thank you Rogan + Dom !
;D ;D ;D
Hans
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Really interesting to see the beginning and the end of this lovely plant - Cris your seedlings look so healthy and happy and Hans your flower is quite stunning (photo included) thanks.
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That's a lovely Zephyranthes Hans. This one from me is not so lovely but I'd be interested if anyone can confirm the name it was sold with: Zephyranthes smallii? I've had it for a few years after buying one bulb and have sinced raised some (selfed) seed too. It is one of those plants which might be on the hit list if I need the space....
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It is one of those plants which might be on the hit list if I need the space....
Crikey, that's a bit harsh, Darren! I think it's lovely.
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Dear Sir,
As I am now running a home for hit listed plants I may be able to help you!!
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You know, I don't even know why I'm not keen on it? Something about the way the flower is in the same plane as the stem , which doesn't curve. Nor does it have a graceful air to it, unlike, say, Maggi.
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...........nor does it have a graceful air to it, unlike, say, Maggi.
Crawler! ;D
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Yep, but entirely sincere. :)
Just had a thought - speaking of amaryllids whose stems don't bend or curve toward the flower, I'm not keen on Narcissus hedreanthus either and I'm pretty sure that is why.
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Darren ,
after KEW is Z.smalli a hybrid between Z.chlorosolen x Z.pulchella
Zeph. chlorosolen was earlier Cooperia - this plants have no curved flowerstem
Hans
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Yep, but entirely sincere. :)
Just had a thought - speaking of amaryllids whose stems don't bend or curve toward the flower, I'm not keen on Narcissus hedreanthus either and I'm pretty sure that is why.
;D ;D :P
As to the non-curved stems... I do know what you nean... it is a bit odd. Not enough to put me off, though. Mind you, I like Rhodohypoxis because they have no visible middle!! ::)
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...........nor does it have a graceful air to it, unlike, say, Maggi.
Crawler! ;D
Shush, David, leave the nice young man be.... :)
PS: any contributions to Darren's spectacle fund are welcome via the website....... :-*
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Thanks Hans - that suggests that the ID might be correct doesn't it?
I might get some florists wire & put a kink in the stem myself & see if I like it more..
As for Rhodohypoxis, I shall refrain from commenting ;)
Nice? Young? Me? Cor! Thanks! Are you reading this Susan???
Oh - and I reserve the right to keep the spectacle fund in case I go to the bar at the discussion weekend next year.
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Shush, David, leave the nice young man be.... :)
PS: any contributions to Darren's spectacle fund are welcome via the website....... :-*
Maggi,
Is that spectacle as in sight correcting apparatus, or spectacle as in the spectacle he's making of himself with all that crawling. ;D ;D I think I've mentioned before that my brother is a crawler.... he was in the Guiness Book of Records for it. :o
Personally, I'm just wondering what Darren has done wrong that he's trying to make amends for..... or is it something he plans to do that he has decided to make amends for before it happens? Sort of a "compliments in the bank" idea to have him in credit for the future?
Maybe I'm just thinking too much. :-\
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Like most blokes I cannot claim to have done nothing wrong, I just haven't been found out yet.... ;)
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;D ;D Very true!!
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I am happy to see Zephyranthes germinations now. Thank at the kind 'father' ;) who offered me them
Dom
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;D ;D ;D
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nice cat on the pic, Hans
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Thanks Dom !
Thats our 'Felix' ...now 16 years old 8)
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Hi Hans
Love Felix 8)
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Hans, Felix looks so at home in a terracotta pot - were there seedlings in it :o ;D
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We had some heavy rain last week and on Wednesday I noticed some buds arising on the rain-lily patch:
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the next day they were out in full bloom: Habranthus tubispathus growing with Alstroemeria hookeri
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The "Apricot or Salmon pink form"
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And what I received as H. martinezii but which Alberto C tells me is more likely to be another form of H. tubispathus
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A couple of days later I took a pic of H. robustus (seedlings ex "Russell Manning" - seed of which have been donated to the Seedex!), but they were past their best :-[
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But with more rain I found the Apricot ones were sending up a second flush of flowers! And all this before the summer - so much for calling them "autumn flowerers"!
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cheers
fermi
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There's no more seasons Fermi ! ;D ;D
They look smashing though !
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Love that H. Martenezi and the apricot one. Thanks for sharing your flowers
Angie :)
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Lovely display Fermi.
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Great display, Fermi.