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General Subjects => Flowers and Foliage Now => Topic started by: WSGR on February 03, 2020, 06:33:46 AM
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As I live in the South, my hellebore season starts early. Here, I will share with you some of my joy and hope you post yours as well.
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I think this one is very similar to Ceres
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The following is one of my strong favorites
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And Stained Glass, another strong favorite
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Very nice! Especially the third one is special. :)
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Leena: I really love that one, Lily and Stained Glass. They are my tops. Do you grow them? Very easy!
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Double reverse picotees among my favorite doubles. Are the names your own or from a nursery?
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Wonderful hellebores WSGR!
I am partial to anemone center ones, but I also like the third one.
Wouldn't be possible please to start a thread as usual - Helleborus 2020 in the other section? This one is used mostly for seeds & germination and makes it easy for anyone when searching for something if things are kept a bit organized.
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starting a new thread for these!
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will be filled in few days
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Sorry! I thought this was somewhere different from the seed germination thread.
As you can see, I have been struggling with the upload facility on this forum. Well, can't blame others except I am like a bull in a china shop, not knowing what to do. Sorry for that!
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Above: a Smokey Blues - first flower!
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A Tutu with exaggerated nectary!
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A new flower with lovely paler edge all around the petals! Most wonderful and the nectary is uniqe!
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Don't know where I bought this. Could be from Wales - he did have a lot of goodies, but the postage is blood letting!
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I love this more as it has a maroon nectary and all the veins are quite symmetrical. Share yours!
I think I might have passed the uploading test this time! Or not? LOL!
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Leena: I really love that one, Lily and Stained Glass. They are my tops. Do you grow them? Very easy!
I love hellebores, but I have grown all mine from seeds and they don't have names (except some may have seed strain names).
Still, they are very nice, and I'm looking forward to Helleborus season in a couple of months time here. :)
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Leena: I have long given up naming them. They have the tiniest bit of difference. I have 2 flower, both pinky white or cream and one has a pointed petals which are close together like a star shape. The other one has rounded petals. Naming them is an impossible task.
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I love hellebores - but the Bulb Despot ( AKA Mr Young) has forbidden me to get any new ones - he mutters something about one hellebore taking up the space of a handful of Erythroniums ........ thank goodness I get to see all the pretty ones being shown here!
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Thank you, Maggi! I can't blame your bulb despot! I'm now running out of room. I thought people have massive mansion with gigantic gardens!
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This one looks like a smaller version of the one below
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Paid a pound to the lady whose house I viewed. She had a nice size garden, but slabs were everywhere!
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All these 2 are similar but never the same
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I think this is a younger version one of the above
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When I was in a nursery last night, a lady said she would love to have a green hellebore, not knowing that the green was actually the sign of aging of a creamy one!
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here's the new set of Delabroye's nursery, just after my work i ran there before the public buy all these beauties :P
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It was a sunny day and the light was perfect
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a few more for your eyes 8)
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someone has said enough?
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let's say no ;D
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the last ones now prepare the £ € $
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Stunning! Yann: Great work! I especially like the yellow double one with red edges! Yummy Yann!
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I often wonder at the magic formula for the compost as I can never make my plants flower if they are in pots! How do you aerate your polytunnel, Yummy Yann?
If I had one here, the plants will be smothered with aphids. So much hard work going into making stunning flowers! So much control as well! How do you keep the slugs/snails away, Yummy Yann?
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here's the new set of Delabroye's nursery, just after my work i ran there before the public buy all these beauties :P
How wonderful to live near a nursery like that! Did you buy any for yourself?
All are great, but my favourite especially is the yellow with orange nectaries. I have never seen one like that!
And I like the flower shape in almost all the single ones.
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Oops! I thought the polytunnel was yours, Yummy Yann! Soooo lucky! Wish the photos were bigger! Never big enough for lovely flowers! Hellebores just boast a plethora of differences - colours, veins, nectaries, petal shapes - more promiscuous than any 4 x 4! LOL!
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They are all magnificent Yann!
Just like Leena, I am fond on the yellow one with orange nectaries, and there is an apricot colored also with orangey nectaries.
Very nice to be able to visit the Delabroye's nursery every year.
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They're in safe place now :+))))
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They're in safe place now :+))))
Only two? You are so good!
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these ones are for Dimov :+)
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How wonderful to live near a nursery like that! Did you buy any for yourself?
All are great, but my favourite especially is the yellow with orange nectaries. I have never seen one like that!
And I like the flower shape in almost all the single ones.
Just 3 ones, the garden is already full of them and i've many seedlings for the future, i'm really thinking to annexe my neighbour's garden. He's tired of mowing the lawn 4 times per year!!
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Just 3 ones, the garden is already full of them and i've many seedlings for the future, i'm really thinking to annexe my neighbour's garden. He's tired of mowing the lawn 4 times per year!!
Only four times ;D
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Yes it looks like a jungle and he destroy one lawn mower per season. It's not easy to cut 80cm couch grass :-\
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Wow !!!
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here's the new set of Delabroye's nursery, just after my work i ran there before the public buy all these beauties :P
Hmmm, it seems that orange is the new black ;D
cheers
fermi
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Yann, from the picture it looks like you got also seedlings in one of the pots, many for the price of one. :)
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Harvington Smoky blues
Harvington pink more like red or burgundy to me.
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Probably no more new one from me for this year.
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Stays storm, hail and snow:
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Really love this green one!
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Helleborus liguricus in flower - this one has a good fragrance, difficult to describe but definitely a hint of citrus.
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Yann, from the picture it looks like you got also seedlings in one of the pots, many for the price of one. :)
Yes many seedlings but i don't think they'll keep the mother plant features if pollinated by bees.
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Harvington Smoky blues
Harvington pink more like red or burgundy to me.
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Probably no more new one from me for this year.
The first hybrid (unknown to me) is striking!
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Gail, I really love yours! The configuration is endless.
Yann: I kept wanting to buy a black one. That is actually more mysterious than the black! Love it.
I had a Harvington apricot double, but it was snapped by black spot and I thought I had taken photos yesterday, but my temperamental Samsung refused to store that photo. It' giving up its ghost. So I just google this one to give an idea. I removed the dead bit and I am dreading its demise.
https://www.crocus.co.uk/plants/_/helleborus--hybridus-harvington-double-apricots/classid.2000023661/ (https://www.crocus.co.uk/plants/_/helleborus--hybridus-harvington-double-apricots/classid.2000023661/) Just think apricot!
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I just found out about this new book via Bobby J. Ward in the USA! It's by Will McLewin.....
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Helleborus-Helleborastrum-Problem-Will-McLewin/dp/1733146695/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=%E2%80%9CHelleborus+and+the+Helleborastrum+Problem%2C%E2%80%9D+by+Will+McLewin&qid=1581797387&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Helleborus-Helleborastrum-Problem-Will-McLewin/dp/1733146695/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=%E2%80%9CHelleborus+and+the+Helleborastrum+Problem%2C%E2%80%9D+by+Will+McLewin&qid=1581797387&sr=8-1)
Bobby wrote : "Just arrived, a copy of “Helleborus and the Helleborastrum Problem,” by Will McLewin of Stockport, England. McLewin questions the current taxonomy of 16 “species” of hellebores in the Helleborastrum section of the genus—plants whose distribution is centered in the Balkans but extend from Spain to Russia. The species in question are abruzzicus, atrorubens, bocconei, croaticus, cyclophyllus, dumetorum, hercegovinus, istriacus, liguricus, multifidus, occidentalis, odorus, orientalis, purpuracens, torquatus, and viridis. Of these species he argues there is significant morphological character variation within continuous colonies and between colonies; nor can provenance be ignored. McLewin proposes a different way of looking at the members of the Helleborastrum and provides description of three new taxa."
Helleborus and the Helleborastrum Problem – 2019 by Will McLewin
Hardcover
Publisher: Wellesley-Cambridge Press; First. edition (2019)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1733146695
ISBN-13: 978-1733146692
Very well illustrated with many hundreds of colour photographs, quarto, pp x, 309, pictorial laminated boards. A highly technical book for the serious species enthusiast. It combines a genuinely functional revision of the difficult section of hellebore species by adjusting the species' delimitations rather than introducing many name changes and at the same time partially solving the 'impossible' problem of the meaning of the term species. It also reprints much of the text, in reduced format, of Brian Mathews' work of 1989.
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What a lovely book, Maggi!
I wish they had something as detailed as Galanthus as now I have the problem of telling Melanie Broughton and Merlin away!
I think true black is difficult to find. It's a bit of dark purple, dark maroon cross.
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here are some pics from my species Helleborus :
Helleborus bocconei ( ex Calabria )
This plant grows since year 2002 in my garden ....but not a fast grower ....
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much better grows for me :
Helleborus siculus ( seeds collect by me in year 2000 on Sicily )
Thats a group of 5 or 6 plants
Many people say it is the same like H.bocconei ...but I do not agree
They are for me really different !
H.siculus is a rare plant on Sicily ...I have it only seen on all my travels there two times
Have fun
Hans
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Most Hellebores are in bud here, like in the first picture, but H.multifidus is always early.
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Hope the photos show up
A veined anemone hellebore - quite tall and a double apricot
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Some of my hellebores in videos.
Missed some and some typo - taxing when you typed in white background with text colour set to white sometimes.
https://youtu.be/S4qbs4bdGFg
https://youtu.be/XCpeuUCTeYo
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Great idea to produce videos
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Son downloaded Movie Maker and if a 63 year old woman can produce 2 videos, so can you, Yann!
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Forgot to say that the basic version is free. Just drag photos in the centre and choose animation and duration. Very easy. Best video maker so far!
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Love to see the many pictures of hellebores. I have seedling hellebores beside mature plants. When is the best time to lift and move them to their own space?
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I am no expert. When they are strong enough to move or too congested, you can move them. They are very tough and you really don't need to worry too much transplanting them. Just hold onto the leaves and not the roots. You could wait for the weather to warm up a bit if they are indoors in a tray. I never bother sowing them in a tray as I have millions of seedlings milling around. They self seed. I have improved clay soil and after 20 years of keeping them, they are like pests here and also they clump so quickly and take over! Some varieties like Lily even need staking! :o
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Hellebores are slowly starting to open their flowers also here, these are all grown from seeds from various sources.
The first picture is from a plant I grew from seeds called 'Early Purple', and it really was early, starting to show buds already in January, and what is best about it is that it has tolerated several periods of temperatures below freezing, and it still doesn't have any damage to the flowers. Also it's colour is difficult to photograph, it is not normal dark purple, but there is a reddish cast in the flowers, it is difficult to explain.
The second one is one of my oldest yellows, grown from Ashwood seeds.
Third one is 'Jade Tiger'-seeds, very nice except it has longer pedicels than the one I consider better.
Fourth is a pink double which is flowering now for the first time, and I like it a lot. Very nice clear colour and petals are in good order. There are small spots in the petals which don't show from this angle.
The last one is semidouble H.niger, which I grew from seed ex seeds. :)
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You've done well. Hellebores can really bankrupt you - a plethora of colours, petal shapes, nectaries, ... That semidouble looks interesting!
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Thank you. :) Now that I have sown every year some seeds (and some years a lot of seeds ::)), there is always something new starting to flower every year. The first five years were waiting, but now I can enjoy. :)
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Hellebores are slowly starting to open their flowers also here, these are all grown from seeds from various sources.
The first picture is from a plant I grew from seeds called 'Early Purple', and it really was early, starting to show buds already in January, and what is best about it is that it has tolerated several periods of temperatures below freezing, and it still doesn't have any damage to the flowers. Also it's colour is difficult to photograph, it is not normal dark purple, but there is a reddish cast in the flowers, it is difficult to explain.
The second one is one of my oldest yellows, grown from Ashwood seeds.
Third one is 'Jade Tiger'-seeds, very nice except it has longer pedicels than the one I consider better.
Fourth is a pink double which is flowering now for the first time, and I like it a lot. Very nice clear colour and petals are in good order. There are small spots in the petals which don't show from this angle.
The last one is semidouble H.niger, which I grew from seed ex seeds. :)
Interesting niger Leena. Mine is also flowering well this year due to an uneventful early spring. Next week it is getting cold but nothing too bad. As you know I had to take it easy with sowing Hellebores due to the lack of space but I look fwd to few new ones flowering this spring, I hope.
One H. purpurascens was the first to flower, now a large flowered purple is starting, also its 'brother' which looks more like torquatus which was one of the parents.
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And I am starting to get fond on H. foetidus.
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I used to be very indifferent to H. foetidus. Now, I realise that it is a great partner to cross pollinate as its flowers are upright. I wouldn't buy them though. Every time I see them, I wish I had one. Actually, years ago, I did have one, but I killed it as it really was not my cup of tea!
I didn't do any cross pollinating this year as it rained non-stop!
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My Hellebores last week.
First pictures of the old ones. :)
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Some more
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The next ones are flowering for the first time this year.
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The last ones
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Very pretty Leena
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Thank you David. :)
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Love the first one!
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Thibetanus Spring 2020
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Very pretty and unusual.