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Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: Janis Ruksans on December 21, 2019, 06:04:52 AM
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Although still is December, 2019, climate changes forces many reticulatas to come out already in December. The first frost by long-term weather forecast here could come not earlier than mid-January. But you well know how trustable are long-term forecasts.
Some reticulatas already opened flowers, those were pictured yesterday, but , but buds are out in aintabensis, sophenensis, kolpakowskiana, kurdica, reticulata KPPZ-206.
Here pictures of Iris reticulata 18IRS-093 from Iran, between Zanjan and Sultaniyeh at altitude 2105 m
Iris reticulata WHIR-190 - another Iranian - from just after vil. Tizh Tizh on side road from Marivan to Sanandaj via Sarv Abad, alt. 1730 m.
and A. McMurtries hybrid 98-MN-1
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All beauties Janis, Mc Murthrie's hybrid does stand out for me though !
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Indeed lot of beauties, WHIR-190 :P
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Some more reticulatas are blooming now. In this entry all are Iranians
17IRS-021 - collected at alt. 1573 m near turn to Shams Abad
18IRS-086 - along road From Khalhal to Mosuleh at alt. 1569 m
Both are similar and collected at only 50 km distance
WHIR-156 - from Pass before Takht-e Soleyman, alt. 2620 m, it was growing together with Iris meda
WHIR-201 - between Salavatabad and Gorgabad. It was growing on steep slopes and rocky outcrops at 2290 m. altitude
All blooms in polytunnel with fully open doors and windows. It seems that real winter this year will not come here at all.
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Heavy frost here this morning, only just beginning to clear off the greenhouse. A couple of my Iris reticulatas which I brought indoors to photograph.
Iris reticulata 'Cantab'
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Iris reticulata 'Fabiola'
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Here only minus 1.5 in night (inside greenhouse), but irises continue blooming. Here few McMurtrie hybrids, Iris bakeriana from Iran and Iris histrio (now with open flowers) from Hatay province.
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Some irises seem to be nicer in buds (or beautiful already in buds) - here Iris histrio from Hatay province some time ago and yesterday. After that I. bakeriana from Iran, Iris aintabensis from Gaziantep in Turkey and as last - Iris sophenensis.
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Iris vartanii -two different clones which flowered in December extending into the New Year. In previous years they have flowered in late November.
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Iris danfordiae JJA 0.585.900 -a very compact Jim Archibald acquisition.
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Iris reticulata “caucasica”
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Iris reticulata AS 09-23 from N.E. Ajerbaidjan.
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Here one of the first, Iris 'Coffee Brown' from A. McMurtrie
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The first pictures are of Iris histrio - the first show it in buds, next with open flowers (this is from Hatay) and the 3rd - from Yarpuz (S Turkey)
Then Iris kurdica, published by me - at present single one species between all "reticulatas" with black anthers.
The last is one of Iranian gatherings - quite variable - all 3 collected at same place.
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the last one is particularly beautiful
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Iris reticulata - I bought this as 09-23 but it doesn’t look remotely like that. any ideas?
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Paul, it looks a bit like zetterlundii -which was previously regarded as zagrica (and was being sold as zagrica by the same vendor who was selling AS 09-23). It would be worth posting an image once it is fully open.
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Iris 'Frozen Planet'
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That looks lovely Roma & new to me.
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Lovely iris, Roma. Does it repeat well or disappear? Maybe you have not had it long enough to know. I see that Jacques Amand is listing it. I think I will need to try some!
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Ashley, Caroline I bought it from Jacques Amand last year so this is its first flowering for me. I think it has a scent but it sits on the bench near Crocus chrysanthus 'Snow Bunting' which is strongly scented so difficult to be sure. I don't know yet if it will flower again. I'm not very good with reticulata irises in pots. A few flowers the second year then a gradual dwindling. I find Iris histrioides hybrids easier to keep going. I was very pleased to have 10 bulbs all flowering and true to name . It too frequently doesn't happen.
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Iris zetterlundii from Iraq
edit by maggi to add IRG link
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2019Apr261556270768IRG_112_April_2019.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2019Apr261556270768IRG_112_April_2019.pdf)
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Iris avromanica from Iran. Named in 2019 by Janis Ruksans - see the IRG
edit by maggi to add IRG link
http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2019Apr261556270768IRG_112_April_2019.pdf (http://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2019Apr261556270768IRG_112_April_2019.pdf)
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The first two photos show iris hyrcana from the Talysh Mnts in Azerbaijan. This is the typical iris hyrcana as we know it.
The last photo shows a plant from the Iranian Talysh that I believe is also iris hyrcana. The flowercolor is much darker however and the flowers are a lot smaller (2,5 cm).
If someone has a better ID, please let me know.....
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Great to see these images of the recently described zagrica relatives Luc!
Also good to see this variation in Iris hyrcana.
I have some hyrcana kindly gifted from another member of the forum that were also collected in Iran. They look similar to your Iranian hyrcana but are perhaps not quite as dark.
Can I ask -do you grow some of your ”reticulata“ Iris in slatted pots in the garden and then lift them to store dry for the Summer (Iran Talysh hyrcana image)?
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Great to see these images of the recently described zagrica relatives Luc!
Also good to see this variation in Iris hyrcana.
I have some hyrcana kindly gifted from another member of the forum that were also collected in Iran. They look similar to your Iranian hyrcana but are perhaps not quite as dark.
Can I ask -do you grow some of your ”reticulata“ Iris in slatted pots in the garden and then lift them to store dry for the Summer (Iran Talysh hyrcana image)?
All the reticulate types are planted in pond baskets in the rockgarden.
The baskets are only for easy handling and keeping them seperate because all bulbs are in the same spot.
I don't lift the baskets during summertime, except if summers are very wet (they used to be many years ago :) then I put an overhead in glass.
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Many thanks Luc.
I struggle a bit with reticulata Irises here. I can’t blame the climate as others here do well with them. This year almost all of mine are now under glass growing in half-plunged clay pots in very gritty compost -I think it might be helping.
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Another newly described species from Iran : iris marivanica
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Can anyone name this one for me please. I got it as 'Halkis' but I don't think it is.
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Iris kolpakowskiana ssp. occinica
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Iris pamphylica -I was well impressed by the show this put on last year and to crown it all seed was set. Unfortunately the pot got soaked in the summer through an open vent and every bulb but one rotted. I think I should name the surviving clone Hubris.
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Iris zetterlundii EGO.IQ 129, from Kurdish Iraq.
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Iris aff. reticulata KMZ 9505 -a teeny-wee Iris which opens its flowers just above the top dressing and remains compact in growth. It originates from Hamadan Province, Iran. The second image gives an idea of its size in comparison to my fat thumb.
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I wish my Iris zetterlundi were as healthy as the ones above. It took three years to flower (bought it as glowering sized.. haha) and looked a little suspicious already last year, but now I‘m afraid it‘s doomed. Magnificent flower, though.
Any comment on whether it‘s really virus or possibly caused by low light (the lid of the frame was on most days last week owing to very changeable weather)??
Given the source I got it from, I would not be surprised, not the first plant I got virused from him, but certainly no more, ever..
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This season I was mostly surprised by yellowish late flowers of true Iris zagrica from locus classicus in Iran. For comparing I'm entering typically coloured flower from start of season.
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Iris Sea Green and probably Dance on
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Is it Eye Catcher? This one is with 5 falls and standards. The one on the ground is curved with 6 falls and standards
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Iris vartanii does well in pots for me here in Southern Australia (unlike Iris reticulata which doesn't do as well in pots after the first year). It's nice to have an autumn flowering retic! I've frozen some pollen to try crossing with some Iris reticulatas in late winter. I don't know if it will be successful but worth a try.
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Iris 'Blue Note' was a gift from a friend last year and it's re-blooming this year
cheers
fermi
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Iris vartanii (bought from Seeds of Peace) surprised me today, I didn't expect it to flower so soon;
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Jings!
I’ve still to re-pot mine.
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Here still no real winter started. Weather is cool, dark and wet, but some spring blooming bulbs hurry to come out. Today I visited my greenhouse - I got parcel with some crocus corms to be potted immediately (in surprisingly perfect shape, regardless of very long traveling before reach me) and from distance I was shocked seeing yellow buds on one bed, where reticulata irises were placed. The first idea - wrong label? it could be impossible to place Iris winogradowii between summer-dry loving species. But when I saw label I was even more surprised. In spring 2017 I together with my Czech friend spotted on field with Iris bakeriana in Iran one clump with white flowers. White colour in wild reticulatas is extremely rare occasion - I really know only 3 cases - Alan McMurtries 'White Casucasus' , which is slightly bluish, purest white found by Zhirair Basmajyan in Armenia, and our bakeriana. We split this clump between us, but at planting time they looked so poor, that I had no hope for some living builb. In spring 2018 four very tiny shoots came out with me, but nothing in my friends garden. This autumn I planted 4 still very small bulbs without any hope to see flowers - but now 3 buds came out! Still only in bud - I'm afraid to bring them inside, but may be tomorrow, as some frost coming for one week is broadcasted.
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Janis, I would of course one day love to make some crosses with your Iris bakeriana Alba.
I was quite tied up this year and didn't have time to make any posts.
Leopard (12-IO-1) continues to do well (first bloomed in 2017). Spring 2021 the Dutch bulb grower will get a chance to see several flowers in bloom.
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13-FI-3 bloomed for the first time this year. There's an interesting light yellow on the fall.
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13-FW-1 blooming for the first time this year
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Coincidentally, there's an appreciation of Alan McMurtrie by Panayoti Kelaidis in the latest issue of International Rock Gardener e-magazine! https://www.srgc.org.uk/logs/logdir/2020Dec241608822973IRG_132.pdf
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Leopard is spectacular!
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I agree, Leopard I like, but not both others.
My brother some 10 days ago brought in few pots with ordinary reticulata Dutch cultivars and all of them turned good bloomers at Christmas time. They were potted too late according forcing rules and bloomed much earlier than usually supposed.
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Orange Delight (09-HT-1) blooming first the first time in Holland at the beginning of March 2020
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"09 in 2015" will bloom for the first time in Holland Spring 2021
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Fireworks (07-BQ-2) is bulking up slowly in Holland
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I like Orange Delight and Fireworks
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I like them all ❤️❤️
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14-KV-1, is Stunning to say the least. I love how the fall blade is yellow, transitioning to white at its edge; without any blue veining on the blade itself. The dark dots and veins under the style arm are quite striking. It's easy to say "oh it's too small," or "it doesn't have proper standards," but think of what it took to create this hybrid. Think of what all of the other yellow Reticulatas look like. There's nothing else like it. It bloomed for the first time in 2019 (photos taken this year). It will take another growing season for the small bulbs in Holland to get up to bloom-size.
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Tequila Sunrise (09-LE-2) is another incredible break through. It first bloomed in Toronto in 2016. The flowers were battered by heavy winds in an open field in Holland. It is in a lab for conversion to polyploid (e.g. tetraploid; possibly octoploid)
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Original photo in Toronto, Canada
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Eye Catcher (98-NP-4) continues to be a very good variety. I look forward to one day introducing the tetraploid version, once we have enough stock. I of course keep coming up with more wonderful "White with blue accent" varieties (sometimes green accents). Here are two new nice ones that bloomed for the first time in 2020:
12-DK-1
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13-FD-1 which looks quite a bit like Eye Catcher, though clearly the standards are different
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Yesterday we had some sun and opened flowers of Iris bakeriana Alba from Iran. Made some 30 pictures of this rarity but when started to download them on computer something happens with card and only 2 pictures opened, others disappear due necessity of formatting card. The first case when something such happens with me. Now shocked - will this repeat? And if this would happen in mountains? Today will try repeat, although no sun is expected. Most likely must to look for new card.
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Hi Janis, I would highly recommend having several memory cards. Memory card failure CAN happen. It never hurts to backup to a laptop every night... just in case of card failure. I have had a card fail. Fortunately not on a trip.
10-CR-1 in Holland March 2020
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12-Which? (I'm not sure which cross this is from)
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12-KE-7
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11-JJ?-5 The goal is Orange that doesn't fade. Orange Delight (09-HT-1) is a solid step in that direction. 11-JJ?-5 is small, but possibly could help
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12-FD-1 appears to be a good yellow. Time will tell how it does. I already have a couple of other yellows converted to polyploid...
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