Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Specific Families and Genera => Pleione and Orchidaceae => Topic started by: Slug Killer on April 24, 2008, 03:57:25 PM
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Photo taken today. This is the first Cyp calceolus I've had and I'm very pleased with it.
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Dave
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Great picture of a wonderful plant.
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It is looking really good, Dave..... now you have to grow it for fifty years and get it to make a clump like Hans Hoeller has in his garden in Austria 8)
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It is a two nose plant allready. It was a better picture for a close up just showing one flower. Does this mean I only have to wait 25yrs now instead of 50 for a nice clump ;D
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Photo taken today. This is the first Cyp calceolus I've had and I'm very pleased with it.
Dave
Lovely portrait of a beautiful plant Dave. My main clump, coming up for 10 years old, has suffered as I suspect the builders stood on it before I covered it with an empty hanging basket? Only 8 shoots this year and they look to have some damage? :'(
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Cyp tibeticum
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/tib25a800.jpg)
Dave
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Amazing plants boys. Are none of these hardy for troughs or beds?
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The first Cyps!
the names:
tibeticum
tibeticum
plectrochilon
palangshanense
macranthos alba
macranthos
x ventricosum
fasciolatum
fargesii ?
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The next Cyps - fargesii ?, tibeticum, macranthos, calceolus
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Stunning pictures Hans !!! :o
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Hi Hans, great pictures and so many different types. Could you possible put some names to them for me? The Cyp plectrochilum must have been a difficult one to photograph as I'm not sure people realise how small the flower is. I've got a couple which will be in flower shortly and getting that close is going to be difficult for me with a standard lens. Whats the spotted Cyp as it looks similar to one I've got which I now believe to be fargesii?
That's a fantastic clump you've got there as well - what are they?
Please keep on posting more photo's, you've made my day.
Dave
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Hi Dave, I have done, you can see the names!
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All cyps are totally hardy but must never dry out. The others need a totally dry summer rest and are winter green. You can see the difference between the two forms of tibeticum by comparing Dave's with Johannes' plant. I much prefer yours Dave. Mine, in the garden, is still only a 1 cm shoot poking through the ground.
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Hi Hans
The first time I viewed them the names were not showing for some reason when the page loaded up. I thought it was strange you didn't put them on. Must have been a problem with the page but all seems OK now.
keep them coming.
Dave
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Dave,
What a beautifully clear picture. So much detail!!! :o One day I will grow a Cypripedium..... one day!!! ;D
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Hans marvellous plants and fantastic photos. My cyps are hardly above ground yet spring obviously comes quickly in Austria.
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Hi, I have several Cypripediums potted and under cover so here are pictures of Cypripedium fasciolatum , cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Super pictures Hans.
My calceolus are just looking out of the soil. 1-2 cm.
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Wow - great to see this fantastic plants! - Thanks Johannes and Ian.
I grew Cyps some years ago in Germany - but I think I lost the battle against the slugs, and I doubt there is any left in my parents garden. ::)
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Hi, I have several Cypripediums potted and under cover so here are pictures of Cypripedium fasiolatum , cheers Ian the Christie kind
Nice plants Ian. Not tried that one.
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Cyprip.tibeticum and Cyprip.fasciolatum today in my garden in pot.
Karl
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Friends, I have moved the Cypripedium posts from the Orchid pages to this, their own thread.
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Sorry Maggi, I have problem with englisch.
Karl
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Dear Karl, it is not any problem with your English, only that I decided to bring all the Cypripediums together.... there were other posts to be moved, also. No need to be sorry 8) :-*
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What I believe to be Cyp fargesii now open.
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(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/farg2800.jpg)
Smaller not open yet
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Dave,
Do you water your 'spotty' Cyps only from below?
I am keen to know,
Giles
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Karl and Dave,
Beautiful pics!!! The tibeticum and fargesii are glorious!!
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Dave beauti pics from Cyp.fragesii.
Karl
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Giles,
I grow most "spotty" cyps outside in my garden and I think they need more water than the most gardeners mean (more than other cyps!). If at any time the soil is too dry (soft leaves), the plants will die or will be damaged. They like a lot of rain!
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Hi Hans
Are your spotted Cyps out in the open in the garden or sheltered. I've always been led to believe they do not like getting wet from above and have therefore always watered mine from below (when in leaf) with the occasional careful top up from the top.
Do you have any other spotted Cyps, I'd love to see some here if you have.
Dave
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Dave, I have the spotted Cyps out in the open in the garden (behind and under a pinus mugo). They are very difficult in the first year, so I grow them in a pot at this time. They grow well every year, but do not always flower. I will show more photos of them. These Cyps have very long and strong roots which are often chopped off before shipment and so they must produce new roots for the next year.
But it is correct that sometimes the heart of the 2 leaves will molder (because water - maybe?).
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Great thread with so lovely pics of such great treasures.
Thanks a lot for sharing.
Mine are fighting to survive in Sweden out of my sight so I do not know if there is any flowers :(
Kind regards
Joakim
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Thankyou all, for the photos and advice.
Giles
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Some pics from my friend's greenhouse
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More Cypripedium x ventricosum
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Looking at some of these fantastic pictures has made my day again. How big is your glass house as it looks huge in some of the pictures. Any cultural advice for Cyp guttatum would be appreciated as mine tend to rot off at the shoot (help) same as my palangshanense.
Dave
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My goodness, Hans, that is a BIG greenhouse your friend has! Is it full of only Cypripedium? :o
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My friend is an owner of a small nursery and primary grows tropical orchids and some ordinary garden plants for building and garden centres (viola, fuchsia, leontopodium, geranium,....).
Guttatum is an easy Cyp for me and my friend. If you get a plant with healthy roots you will have much success. I grow them in a shady position behind and under a pinus mugo or in common with Daphne cneorum. They do like colder conditions.
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Oh Hans...... they are heart-stopping. Beautiful!!!!!!! :o :D
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Hans why is Your fried growing the plants in a green house?
If he has tropical orchids there I presume the conditions are not ideal for Cyps?
They are lovely and so nice to see the variations in x ventricosum.
Even more so since manchuricum also is a x ventricosum, but it may be a valid name to describe a special type of x ventricosum.
Really lovely a great start of the day 8)
Thanks for showing
Joakim
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Cyp fargesii fully open
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I'd grow that one for the leaves alone. The flower is a bonus (and a very nice bonus at that!! ;D)
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Dear Hans,
Please may I use some of your photographs, to send to orchid friends, and to keep as a record.
They wont be used for publications or anything like that.
Its just that they are rather fine, and I like them!
Giles
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Pics from my garden today morning.
Karl
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Cyp fasciolatum
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/1fas.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/fasbest800-1.jpg)
Cyp plectrochilum
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/1plect.jpg)
Cyp plectrochilum showing how small it is for those that have never seen one (tape in Centimeters)
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Those are fantastic pics Dave. I grow neither species, but your pics make me want to.
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I saw these at Wisley today.
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and some more...
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and it all looked very pretty.....
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...with regards to the names, the photo files have the same name that was on the label, but I think:
C.calceolus parviflorum = C.parviflorum parviflorum
C.pubescens = C.parviflorum pubescens
C.kentuckiense........?is it really kentuckiense.....Frosch shows a yellowy form, but even so!
C.henryi.
C.franchetii......again doesn't look like ones on Frosch site, but seems to be quite variable
C.segawae.....this is the first time I've seen this. I'm afraid the photo doesn't do it credit.
It is a beautiful plant, well proportioned, lovely colour, and glossy leaves.
Cypripedium corner (a place to linger)
General views of alpine house x2
I guess there are some advantages of being well south of the border (!)
..but how I miss those Asiatic Primulas at Cluny House!
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Hi Greed
There is a mistake somewhere as Cyp kentuckiense looks nothing like the picture you have posted. Below are images from the Phytesia website (with permission from Pascal Lambe) of what they should look like or what I believe they should look like.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/image64.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/image65.jpg)
Dave
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..its just that you don't like to argue with the RHS!!!!!!
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Perhaps they have a stock of labels etched when Moses took two tablets and went up into the mountain, and they keep wheeling them out when they have a plant that matches the label? ;) The reason being that if they keep the labels long enough the name will eventually change back? Can't think of any other reason to call Cypripedium parviflorum form of calceolus except that it may be its original title?
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Cyp fasciolatum again showing difference in colouration, one is more white.
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Dear Dave.
Here is a photo of a C.fasciolatum exhibited at the AGS Midlands show a few weeks ago,
by Carl Hardwick. I was impressed by how healthy it looked. It won a Certificate.
(This does look like what it says on the label !!!!!!!)
Giles
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Some Cyps from my garden:
froschii, japonicum, calceolus x parviflorum and fasciolatum.
Joakim, my friend grows some Cyps in a cold green house where are no tropical orchids. But most Cyps are outdoor and these do not jet flower.
It is correct that some manchuricum are x ventricosum or macranthos.
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My first to flower this year,
Cypripedium Gisela
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Lovely Cyps 8) 8) 8) 8)
Is the RHS Cyp kentuckiense a Cyp parviflorum var pubicenses? I tried to use the key in the Frosch website but depending on how I saw the pouch it end up as kentuckiense or pubicenses. Pubicences have more of the green tone but I do not know if kentuckiense also have that.
Hans thanks for clarefying about the green house. So we might look forward to see Yours outside as well. 8) 8)
The x ventricosum is so fantastic and has so many variations and it also back crosses with machranthos. Especially the "manchuricum variant" is more on the macranthos side than the calceolus side. It almost seem to be bigger and better variation of natural ventricusum than when the hybrid is done artificially. Luckily the natural hybrid is fertile. (Is that not against the definition of species that they can not have fertile offspring?)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Here is my 'Sabine'. It suffered a little from frosts this year, but it didn't affect the flowers.
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Anthony,
What a pot full!! Beautiful. :o
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A wonderful pot, Anthony! I'm still not convinced that I like Cyps, but if I had a pot like that I'd be damn proud of them!
Chloë
in north Portugal, where it's cooler than London ...
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Now my Cyp calceolus is full in flower
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Hans, such an enormous plant in flower. FANTASTIC!
I'm afraid I can only dream of it.
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Some different calceolus from my garden
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Hans Very nice 8) :o 8) :o 8)
What is the shorter one in front of the big calceolus with more green petals in the first post of today?
Chloe here in Portugal we will have to make do with the couins Phapilopedium the venus slipper.
They seems to survive outside in Coimbra, but I do not dare to test that. They grow well here anyway but I think I rather would have Cypripedium growing outside.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Hans, are those C. calceolus seedlings (hybrids) from your garden.
Or are such types growing in nature too? I never heard about that.
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Joakim and Luit,
these are all true calceolus and no hybrids (very very rare here in Austria)! Calceolus alba, semialba and with reddish and brown petals.
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Good to know that. Very interesting!
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Hans,
wow! 8) 8) 8) All this flowers after your mice attack!
Gardener luck? ;) :D ;D
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Here is a single clone of Cypripedium X Ventricosum.
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Anthony,
Lovely!!
Hans,
That plant is amazing. I do so wish we could get Cyps here in Aus, at prices that don't require a bank heist to afford them (on the VERY, very, VERY rare times you can find them). Stunning to see a pic of such a large clump. Astounding!! :o
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Armin, the mice attack destroyed 2 large Cyp calceolus (usually each with 30 - 40 flowers), one large macranthos (15 flowers) and other Cyps. There you cannot find one bud and plants, only some seedlings.
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Ouch!! :o That must be heartbreaking. :'(
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Some pics of my Cypripedium. Most are x ventricosum (+ white and yellow), then macranthos (+alba), japonicum, tibeticum and flavum (+ alba)
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And the second part
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Cyp favum today. Single flower unlike some of the fantastic pictures on here.
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Hans You live in Paradise !!!!
With all the lovely Cyps around 8) 8) 8) 8) :o :o :o :o
Well done!!!!!!!
David I would not kick Your dotted flavum out of the bed either 8) :o ;D. But I would kick the one who put it in bed. :-[ ::) 8). Very nice I must say. 8)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Hi all, very envious of all of the above, keep the photos coming, here are two of our babies.
Cypripedium Debile and Fargesii.
Dan and Ellen
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Sorry about the double posting, but we are THAT pleased with them !!!!!
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Dan and Ellen,
are these fargesii or micranthum?
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Dan and Ellen,
are these fargesii or micranthum?
Hans, I think this is not a flower.. it is a small baby bird with purple hair! :o :o ;) ;D
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Hi Hans,
we bought it as Fargesii a few years ago but have just had the first flower and assumed it was correctly named.
Just googled images and yes it would appear we have Micranthum or 'purple baby bird' .
Thanks for the info.
Dan and Ellen
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Delightful purple hairdo. I saw someone at my market on Saturday, just like it. :D
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Thanks all of you for the breathtaking photos - especially the different C. calceolus are fantastic! :o
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Are you interested in more pics of Cypripedium?
Yes, I will show some more - but not from my garden.
Flavum!!!!!
calceolus
x ventricosum
pubescens
parviflorum?
calceolus
flavum
reginae
pubescens
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And the last Cyps for today.
I know fargesii, candidum?, ventricosum, lichiangense, shanxiense?
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Hans I have tried to compare with the pics on Frosch website and I think the shanxiense might be a hybrid with calceolus since the petals are darker brown.
The link is here:
http://www.w-frosch.de/Cypris/Hybriden/calsha.htm
Regarding the white I do not know how to separate the candidum from its natural hybrids with parv or pub or from montanum. Maybe You will be able to classify it with the help of the above website and the key there.
Very nice pictures
Kind regards
Joakim
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The Cyps are still mostly in bud; but soon, soon the ditches here will be yellow for miles with C. pubescens (replacing the yellow Caltha palustris which bloomed first there). And the woods with plenty of C. acaulis and C. reginae.
For now, C. arietinum is the first to bloom in the garden.
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Cyp fasciolatum with two flowers from one nose. never had this before on fasciolatum.
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Super pictures from everybody -
Cyps are really fascinating :o 8)
Hans,
I regret your losses by the mice attacks :(
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Wonderful plants from a friend
a true farreri
a new hybrid ( andrewsii x montanum)
tibeticum
flavum alba (correct: acaule x reginae?)
reginae x corrugatum
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I now have twelve clumps in flower, ranging from three to thirty flowers. Still at least the same number of clumps that range from a day or two off opening to reginae and kentuckyensis which are a week or two off.
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Hans very nice ones an interesting new hybrid between reginae and corrugatum. How tall is it?I have no oppinium about the flavum alba more than it is nice :) 8).
ADarby we are looking forward to Your Cyps coming into flower it sounds as if we have a treat waiting 8), but where are the pictures? These are nice plants so if You would repeat any that is just great. ::)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Does it matter if they are in the wrong kind of pot? ::)
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I look at flowers not pots so I do not care about the pot. :) So just bring it on this is "real life" and not a staged show. They are so pretty by them self that no pot can take that away.
We have a saying "A rose is still a rose even in a broken vas but snuff (Swedish snus) is snuff even in a golden box".
Bring it on 8) ;D
Kind regards
Joakim
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Does it matter if they are in the wrong kind of pot? ::)
I suppose that depends whether or not you intend to give anyone a hernia carrying the pot or not, Anthony ::) :P :-\ :-X :o
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Joakim, Cyp reginae x corrugatum is so 30 cm tall and acaule x reginae is like a reginae.
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Does it matter if they are in the wrong kind of pot? ::)
I suppose that depends whether or not you intend to give anyone a hernia carrying the pot or not, Anthony ::) :P :-\ :-X :o
Mmmm. Jean told me the weight wasn't the problem. She just said don't ever exhibit a plant in a garish patio planter again! ??? Well, it's either that or plastic as terra cotta isn't frost proof.
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Here's some pics:
Emil in that pot;
Hank Small showing what the frost does to terracotta;
Gisela in a new position in the garden;
p. parviflorum where it has been for 10 years;
likewise calceolus, which needs moving as it has gone back (possible builder damage?);
Karl Heinz;
two forms of X Ventricosum Album.
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Thanks for the information Hans :)
Adarby very nice plants 8)
Is there a size difference amongst the Xentricosum? Some are twice as big as the others.? Or is it a trick of the camera?
Do the flowers grow wile open?
Many questions.
Wrap some nice paper around the pot when exhibiting. It is nice and hides the pot that has taken a beating from the winter.
Thanks for sharing You have nice plants in a nice setting.
Kind regards
Joakim
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I think that if plants aregrown on a patio then these glazed decorative pots are lovely, but given that there is still a widespread preference for terracotta pots at shows, then there will be resistance to those glazed pots. Certainly I was aware of quite a few people saying that they did not like Emil's pot at the Aberdeen Show !! That being said there were a number of plants on the bench in such pots and at least two of them won awards.... ::)
It was certainly a lot heavier than I would have liked to cart around, and leaked water all over the bench, too :P I was told that perhaps Emil is not Emil, though you are sure it/he is Emil......all very confusing.......I am barely able to tell my Emil from my elbow, I thought it/he was super!
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Definitely Emil as it fits on all counts: size; colour; vigour. No other plant could go from one flower to thirty in four years. It is a seed-grown hybrid between p.parviflorum and calceolus, so there is a lot of variation between forms. Look at the difference between the two X Ventricosum albums both bought at the same time from Paul Christian.
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I see
now no problem with a glaced pot it looks nice. It is a matter of what one is used to. Things change and I think it is important that SRGC follows that or it will be lost. The plastic terracotta ones are not looking that bad either. And they have almost no weight. :-\
Parviflorum can sometimes have this red markings and bring that to its hybrids. I was also a bit confused last year when it was shown but got convinced it is what it says.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Earlier this month Ian Christie exhibited Cypripedium Philipp. I have this, but my plant and its flowers are huge compared with Ian's. Ulla Silkens is another that has a great deal of variation between different clones.
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Sorry I meant to say I see no problem with glaced pots.
Adarby is there also a variation in flower size due to cultivation technique.
I have got that impression from other forum but not seen it my self.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Will be calling You Anthony in the future.
Joakim
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I think the size of the plant and flower is due to cultivation technique. I have problems with too much rain at the wrong time of year, so I have to ensure the crown of the plant is well aerated using perlite and gravel. My Gisela is very small due to lack of feed, but I have moved it. Michael Weinart (of www.cypripedium.de/forum) suggests that vigorous hybrids can tolerate full strength soluble fertiliser once every two weeks (species should get quarter strength). In the garden the roots can spread into normal garden soil. This is good if you can reduce the problem (which I have) of worms dragging clay into the crown. This causes crown rot. I have used pond lily baskets to good effect, but most have holes exactly the same size as cyp roots so they pass through and cannot be pulled out when replanting. Those in pots do well as long as they never dry out and are fed every two weeks while in growth. Repotting is easy at any time. Just tip out and rinse thoroughly in clean water. I also used fungicides such as Cheshunt Compound (copper based), especially with new plants, as this reduces the likelyhood of death. It works, as some of my plants are now 10 years old.
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Anthony Thanks for the growing advice. Interesting to know how others "do it" and then take the best parts.
I have grown mine more in the substrate of Malmgren with garden soil but with with added grit and some composted bark. Then putting them in pots with styrofoam in the bottom and then putting the pots in drained tub with some soil but a layer of coarse grit in the bottom. I can not recommend growing cyps like that unless You can control if they need water since that is very well drained. Being a weekend gardner that is not enough attention for seedlings but adult plants survive ;D but not much more ::). I have them covered in the winter. I will try to replant them into a better situation. We fight slugs,voles and deers so I have to have that in consideration when planting. The seedlings were eaten by isopods. The type that normally is nice and grey and rolls into a ball when touched. They decapitate the seadlings :'( :'(.
Should replantation only be done when dormant or can the plant (with soil/compost) be moved into a new place when still green?
Edited later This takes place in Sweden not Portugal. So now I am not even a weekend gardner for my Cyps, but they have my mother peeping on them.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Curiously, slugs don't seem to attack my plants (touch wood), but this could be due to the surrounding mulch of gravel and perlite? I have moved my plants in full growth with no problems. The medium they are growing in is so loose that it easily falls away without damaging the roots. I think if you are going to divide the plant, at the start of the growing season may be best? It is not something I do as I am not a nursery gardener so have no need to multiply them.
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Four nose Cyp henryi taken today. It's been like this for four days now and does not want to open any further. Would have liked to take photo in natural light outside but its windy and wet (UK bank holiday weather).
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/henryi2800.jpg)
Dave
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What a superb plant. Not one I have succeeded with.
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Some Cyps from my garden (weekend).
I have some pics from the nature (Cyp. calc.). Interest?
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Oh, yes, Hans, we are interested in your pix from nature 8)
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Wonderful cyps Hans ... very envious!
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Some calceolus (with wonderful petals, very high-1m!, large flowers,...)
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And the last pics
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I think I have died and gone to heaven
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Despite all the other Hybrids you showed Hans, the C. calceolus in nature
are the most beautiful for me to see.
Thanks a lot for showing. really GREAT!
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In pic two of post 116, slide dscf3848, I see that the whole of a pouch of a flower has "gone"... eaten away by something, i suppose... what would do that?
Hans, these are wonderfully large, strong plants, what a pleasure to see them, thank you!
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Maggi, I think it was a slug or a caterpillar.
The pics do not show the real beauty of these Cyps, but every year it is a great pleasure for me to see such excellent Cyps.
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Dave very nice henryi 8) :o
Hans nice plants in the garden.
Could it be
Gisela
Ulla Silkens
franchetti
??????
4*Flavum
and parviflorum or is it calceolus.
How many rights did I have. I did not check last years posts so I did not cheat. I may be very wrong but it is fun to guess.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Hi Joakim,
the names are
tibeticum x parviflorum (a hybrid grown from Mr. Marta, but this plant is very large)
Ulla Silkens
macranthos / franchetii?
tibeticum, I think so (a very small flower)
4x different flavum
Rascal (a very large hybrid)
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Hans,
these are fantastic to see growing in the wild. I wish I had some to picture on my doorstep.
David
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Hans I must say I am happy with my guesses. Sorry if I guessed on more common plants than what You had. The tibeticumX parviflorum has nice colour. The tibeticum was right in colour but I had problem with the small poach so I did not dare to guess on anything.
Congratulate Mr Marta on his nice hybrid.
The macranthos might be macranthos (I can not say anything against that) I just saw the stripes and thought of franceti but I think that some macranthos have that as well. I like that feature so it is a very nice plant.
You have very nice collection. Well done :)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Despite all the other Hybrids you showed Hans, the C. calceolus in nature
are the most beautiful for me to see.
Thanks a lot for showing. really GREAT!
Hans,
I agree with Luit C. calceolus in nature is a stunner 8)
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And now really the last Cyp calc
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Hans lovely sized clumps :o
Do the color of the dorsal and petal vary from light brown to almost black?
Does the Ophrys (sorry for writhing Orphys before but that sound correct to me even if it is totally wrong) insectifera (?) grow together with the cyps?
Once again thanks for charing the picures and for helping me learning to identify orchids.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Joakim, yes the other orchid (Ophrys insectifera) is growing in common with the Cyps. But you can find there Corallorhiza trifida, Dact fuchsii, different Epipactis - a little later, and many other orchids, too.
The colour of the cyp calc does not depend on the light - so I have just seen.
After a very cold spring or when the cyps do flower very late and it is very cold at the begin of the flowering time the petals / sepals are more green/yellow and not so dark!
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Cyp reginae x corrugatum now full in flower (a very large flower).
The photo is taken in my friend's garden.
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Hans thanks for the information about the calceolus :)
Great looking plant that hybrid is. Interesting to see if the colour will depend on temperature as is the case with reginae or it will always be that dark.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Here is Cyp Aki taken today. I bought a Cyp Aki pastel at the Malvern show but didn't manage to get a photo before the flower went over.
The pastel flower was half as big again as this one.
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Flowering in today's glorious sunshine after one day's rain. Cc. calceolus; parviflorum pubescens; macranthos (flowering for the first time since I bought it as a seedling in 2003) and 'Philipp', a huge flowered plant which has kentuckyensis is its parentage.
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As allways Anothony your Cyps look great! It amazes me to see C calceolus growing out in full sun with your phlox. The Scottish sun must be so soft.
Philip is a stunner!
Cheers
Stephen
Blue Mountains
Australia.
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I used to grow that clone of calceolus in shade, but the tepals were really pale, almost yellow. I divided it a couple of years ago and it is now back to what it was then, after two seasons.
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Flavum
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/flavumfront700.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/flavumside700.jpg)
Dave
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Slug magnificent C.flavum
Cypripedientrip with Hans Höller
Karl
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Another Pics from C.calceolus
Karl
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This one stopped me in my tracks Friday night. The colour was redder than I have ever seen in a C. acaule. I didn't get back to photograph it until late this morning, unfortunately the colour had faded somewhat.
johnw
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Here is the same plant before I yanked the Amelanchier seedling and some debris. This was taken at 18:44 on Friday and the low sun was playing havoc with the camera.
johnw
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And another from Friday night.
johnw
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And finally a bashful one standing a foot away.
White ones are not uncommon but I haven't seen any this spring.
johnw
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Some pics from my garden taken today (32°C)
lichiangense, kentuckiense, Rascal and some Ulla Silkens
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Hello Hans,
Nice C kentuckiense. Are you doing anything special to this species. I've been told it likes to grow in a potting mix of equal sand and bark fines.
Any thoughts from anyone in regards to potting mixes and soil amendments to growing this one out in the garden?
Cheers
Stephen
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Hello Stephen,
I use for all Cyps only one substrate (with sand and bark fines). In the garden with more perlite, Seramis, sand,..).
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I avoid sand 'like the plague'. It hold too much moisture for where I live.
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I only protect my spotted-leaf cyps from rain. Here are Cc. macranthos and parviflorum pubescens again.
The variation in the pattern and colour of 'Ulla Silkens' is not entirely due to genetics. I have two clones and both throw different extremes, sometimes on the one stem?
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Thanks Hans and Anthony,
Yes its interesting to see this variation of spottyness and degree of pink seen on Ulla Silken's pouch, a trate coming from one of its parents C reginae?? C reginae degree of pinkness comes with tempreture fluctuations, the warmer the tempretures when the flower opens the more pink the pouch is and this variation is seen in mulitiple stems.
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Roborchids, the different Ulla Silkens are all from Konrad Koch, selected in his garden (nursery).
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The diminutive C. calceolus once known as var. planipetalum in bloom here today.
johnw
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Not calceolus, as it is an 'old world' species, but parviflorum John.
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Cypripedium parviflorum 2006 with 72 flowers, today one flower.
The Rhizom is rot.
Karl
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This link came up on Trillium-L this morning. A very attractive website and some good information and pics re Cypripedium.
www.cadysfallnursery.com
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Karl, sad to hear about your C parviflorum going to rot. Its allways been a recomendation to split your Cyps when they get congested like that as it only incourages a rot, (bacteria). Whole collection can be lost if planted in the same bed. So have back ups in pots and in differant places in your garden....Thats my tip for the day! ;)
John nice colour and great viens on the dorsal sepals and petals but they are not twisting like a typical parviflorum...you have something special!
Rob not that i know of but there are new hybrids with reginae out there and I suspect they will do the same as they look very reginae like.
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Not calceolus, as it is an 'old world' species, but parviflorum John.
Anthony - I will get that right one of these days. I just measured another v. planipetalum at 4cm (no flowers). Another is not up yet.
John W.
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Lesley,
the link doesn't work, you forgot an s ;)
It's
http://www.cadysfallsnursery.com/Welcome.html
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Sorry about that Wim. Thanks for correcting it for me. I hope you felt the site was worth the trouble. I thought it seems a beautiful place.
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I think planipetalum is a lovely form. Here are two flowers on the one stem of 'Ulla Silkens'.
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Karl, sad to hear about your C parviflorum going to rot. Its allways been a recomendation to split your Cyps when they get congested like that as it only incourages a rot, (bacteria). Whole collection can be lost if planted in the same bed. So have back ups in pots and in differant places in your garden....Thats my tip for the day! ;)
John nice colour and great viens on the dorsal sepals and petals but they are not twisting like a typical parviflorum...you have something special!
Stepehn - The twisting was not consistent throughout the plants we saw in the wild in Newfoundland. And the height in some colonies ranged from minute to normal parviflorum size. I guess that's why they scrubbed planipetalum.
re: congestion You're probably quite correct. Jens Nielsen said that quite a few times - divide, divide, divide. He also suggested rabbit, moose and deer munching of Cypripediums probably served a very usual purpose..........in the wild.
johnw
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Excessive moisture around the crown is the cause of rot, but by fungi. I ensure my plants have no loam around the crown (only perlite and gravel) and fungicide does the rest. The only flowers I have had affected by the rain are those of C. flavum.
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What fungicide do you use? One of my C. favum got zapped by a late frost, and would probably be better off treated, but my only avaliable fungicide is a bottle of Funginex (triforine).
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What fungicide do you use? One of my C. favum got zapped by a late frost, and would probably be better off treated, but my only avaliable fungicide is a bottle of Funginex (triforine).
Cheshunt compound (copper based) and systemics that are sold in garden centres.
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The rare and highly endangered Cypriprdium aretinum in Nova Scotia. Found by a friend today. Location will remian undisclosed!
johnw
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What sort of size are the flowers?
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John, how wonderful! The flowers are about the size of the end of a thumb, Anthony, I think! Tiny but perfectly formed!!
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Two years ago, I did rescue 523 Cypripedium acaule, before a domiciliary extend behind my land.
This week, I have 172 flowers. I think there will be more seeds this year.
I will try to separate seeds by colors, white, light pink, and dark pink.
Bernard
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Must have been some house extension? :o
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265 flowers this morning.
Antony, There are many houses where was my playground (for wild flowers) since 1992 :(
The Cyp. were all in a spot approximately 100 meters x 300 meters.
I have 5 new neighbours now.
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Developers tried to do that behind some of the houses in the street. It is woodland, but the owners of said wood wanted to build four new houses. The local residents clubbed together and objected so the council turned it down. No unusual plants here, but had there been, we wouldn't had needed to put in all our objections as the law would have prevented them doing so. I thought cyps were Cites listed and as such could not be interferred with? It's the usual story. A developer can wipe out a whole population with a bulldozer, but a member of the public would get a heavy fine for digging up one. ::)
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C. parviflorum is the first cypripedium to flower for me this year
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Cyp reginae bought from Hayles Hardy Orchids earlier this year.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/SlugKiller/reginae2700.jpg)
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An item on last night's TV about Donald Trump's intentions for the sand dunes near Aberdeen. What an arrogant pratt that he expects to do what he wants because of who he is and regardless of environmental consequences. I hope the Aberdonians dig a hole in the sand and bury him.
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His hair would still be showing Lesley!
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Someone could use a weedeater. ;D ;D ;D
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Alas I think he holds all the Trump cards? ::)
My reginae is a wee bit behind yours Dave. Some of mine came from Hayley, as did a kentuckyensis, which is just about out. My only failure this year has been 'Andrewsii', although a couple of others have just produced leaves. I think the 'Andrewsii' was in too small a pot, so it possibly dried out?
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Could be the trumpet of doom for those sand dunes.
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Could be the trumpet of doom for those sand dunes.
Perhaps bugle would still grow there?
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Perhaps we should be playing The Last Post rather than the last hole when the deed is done?
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Just to continue these off topic remarks... as an Aberdeen resident, I would have been more impressed with the arguments of the anti-Trump brigade if they had all been as visible and voluble when the nearby areas were turned over to landfill, full of toxic waste draining to said dune areas! >:(
I have a sneaking feeling that if preservation of the greater habitat and wildlife of the dunes is really what people want, then "The Donald's" plans are the best way to go!
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... the nearby areas were turned over to landfill, full of toxic waste draining to said dune areas! >:(
Landfill on sand? Not good (although liners are now required in the EU that attenuate the leachate and slow migration from the site).
Despite vocal claims to the contrary I think our experience with golfcourses on dune systems in Ireland is not happy. Lipservice is invariably paid to conservation but the reality is almost always environmental degradation compared to leaving the area 'undeveloped'. Hence 'conservation' comes to mean just trying to do a bit less damage, i.e. greenwash - or good old hogwash if you happen to be an old cynic like me ::) The only question is whether there is net economic benefit and how much degradation we are willing to accept for it. Which leads to the question of how that economic benefit is spread ... Here too our experience in Ireland has not been great.
So how is it in the home of golf-courses?
[With apologies for straying even further from cypripedium!]
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Regarding orchids in golf courses there is nice orchids around the golf course in Lund Sweden that are open to the public but some has been destroyed by stupid (illegal) mowing of the grass. It is on rented land that is now a nature conservative.
Here are some Cyps from the botanical garden in Oslo
Cypripedium reginae
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/JoakimB/Oslo/Cypreginae1.jpg)
Cypripedium parviflorum pubescens The only one in flower was in some shade the others had already passed
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/JoakimB/Oslo/Cypripediumpubescens3.jpg)
Cypripedium Ulla Silkens (reginaeXflavum)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/JoakimB/Oslo/CypripediumUllaSilkens2.jpg)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Thanks for returning us all to sanity Joakim. :) But, one last query, surely the Royal and Ancient must be pretty much on sand dunes?
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All part of the natural succession we teach in ecology: yellow dunes; grey dunes; perennials; shrubs; with climax golf course. And yes Lesley, there was a lovely patch of dwarf rush by that wee bridge that was wiped out before the last Open. Thank goodness for the 'rough'.
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Here are some more coming into flower this weekend: another clump of 'Ulla Silkens'; reginae; kentuckiense and 'Lucy Pinkepank' (kentuckiense x tibeticum).
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Beautiful, Anthony. Simply beautiful!! I am so jealous!!!!! :o ::)
Very cool pics. 8)
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The genuine article.....
.....but who's looking after the sandwiches while you're taking those pictures(!)
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Giles, I don't think anyone's sandwiches are safe from the Masked Bandit :o
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at least it was friendlier than some of the other Canadian wildlife....
.....black flies (!!!!!)
.....snakes
.....black bears
but particularly the black flies.
and before I finish, a further Cyp I forgot to put up,
C. arietinum.(Singing Sands/Dorcas Bay, Ontario)
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Giles,
What is the second Cyp in your Racoon posting? Interesting form to it.... thought perhaps if i studied the rest of the postings here I'd recognise it anyway.
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That is Cypripedium acaule Paul. I just love the balled, I mean bald pouch. :) ;)
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Anthony,
Well I hadn't thought of it in those terms..... but now that you mention it!! ;D
I know I've seen pics of that before, but I guess I had never noted the distinct shape of it before. So many wonderful Cyps!! :o
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Reminds me of a bocks beutel!
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Anthony,
Do we even want to ask?
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C. reginae means midsummer
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Please note a post on the "books" page about a book on Orchids of Huanglong.
Reply 119 :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=248.105
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Some very late Cyps lichiangense. Pics taken today.
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Hans very nice and interesting how different the colour of the foliage is.
I bet many are interested how You grow them what media and if it has protection from rain or not. 8)
Kind regards
Joakim
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Nice to see someone managed to flower some spotted Cyps. I have some fantastic leaves but only one flowered. The rest all aborted unfortunately, think too much water collected on the leaves and rotted the main shoot. Next year hopefully!
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dear all,
I have seen all the beautiful pics of cyps on the forum. I am a new member and I do some in-vitro-sowing on cyps and other orchids. Does anyone have seeds of cyps or other orchids?
Greetings, Guus, Netherlands
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A warm welcome to you, Guus. I hope you will enjoy the Forum and we look forward to hearing more about your growing methods with the orchids.
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OK, I see some of you are very active on the forum! I do some sowing in vitro of mainly hardy orchids, Cyps and some other species. I have some Dacts in the garden and Epipactis. I am also interested in bulbs and Arum like species. And many other plants. I do some butterfly/moth breeding as well. I have some young Cyps from seed. If you want to know more ... just ask. Greetings, Guus
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Guus, sorry for the delay in my reply; I have been away. Are you in the Netherlands?
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Hi Maggi,
I see I am late as well!
Yes I am from the Netherlands.
Greetings, Guus
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Guus,
Welcome to the forums. Cyps are few and far between here in Aus, and I don't know for sure of anyone here who is growing them from seed. Fascinating plants. Thanks to a generous benefactor here in Aus I finally have one which hopefully may flower next year. Very, very exciting!! ;D
Again, welcome.