Scottish Rock Garden Club Forum
Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: Rob-Rah on March 07, 2019, 12:28:04 PM
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This lovely little yellow Iris attica is flowering at the moment - glasshouse grown to keep off summer rains (third picture also show Geissorhiza splendidissima).
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Iris pumila, a nice dark violet form.
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Some Iris pumila cultivars blooming this week: 'Sudden Butterflies', 'Hobbit', and 'Little Drummer Boy'
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Lovely plants there Tom.
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Iris babadagica. Some say it's synonymous with I. aphylla others with I. furcata.
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Someone should do a chromosome count on I. babadagica, to make a start in sorting out its relationships. The identification as I. aphylla is not very compelling in my eyes.
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Some more Iris pumila: one from Moravia, and two from Balkaria in the Caucasus
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An unusual grayish pumila from Armenia
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Some Iris pumila seedlings from my own crosses
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An unusual greenish colored Iris pumila, a hybrid from crossing an Armenian seedling with one from Czechia.
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Exciting new seedlings for my hybridizing program: siblings from I. reichenbachii ex Mt. Vikos (an apparent tetraploid) x I. pumila 'Royal Wonder'. These are only about 11 cm tall, but have the same chromosome configuration as the standard dwarf bearded hybrids, as well as I. lutescens and its relatives. My plans are to use these to breed very small miniature dwarfs in the same fertile family as the modern SDBs.
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Iris bicapitata.
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Nice plant Ralph.
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The sticker says Iris spectabilis - anyway the scent is magnificent and the color top!
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Iris sambucina
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The scent resembles really the elder flower.
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Iris lutescens from our plant swap in 2017.
The donor labelled it "Iris chamaeiris syn Iris lutescens"
cheers
fermi
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Very nice Iris specis and cultivars from all. 8)
I want to share a few images of historical bearded irises and species.
Ambassadeur 1920, Vilmorin
Accent Buss, R. 1952 / I. 1953
Dauntless Connell, 1929
Eleanor Roosevelt H.P. Sass-McDade, 1933
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Ambassadeur 1920, Vilmorin
Nice to see you back here, Armin :)
'Ambassadeur' looks like one that is grown in Australia as well!
cheers
fermi
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Hello Armin, good to see you. Lovely Irises.
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Hallo Fermi & David,
thank you for your warm welcome. I was never away, I was from time to time lurking the forum posts ;D
Some more to share:
Gracchus, Ware 1884
I. illyrica collected 1875 (1870); seed raised
I. macedonica collected 1892
Ma Mie, Ferdinand Cayeux 1906
Shah Jehan, Neel 1932
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more...
I. pallida, 1789 (1780) collected Lamark
I. seedling, very beautiful, appeared among one of my 'Ambassadeur' stocks. 'Ambassadeur' sets seed from time to time and I'm digging the seed when ripe...
As the famous dark blue tetraploid I. germanica 'Amas' is said to be one of the used parents of 'Ambassadeur' it does not surprise me. :D
I.'Amoena' unnamed Iris ~40 cm tall, resembling an I. variegata var. reginae
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Iris aphylla from SRGC Seedex 2011, sown 14-03-2011; 1st seedling 10-09-2018!
So, although it took 7 years to germinate it only took a year to reach flowering size :)
cheers
fermi
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Hi Fermi,
I adore you for your patience! :D
Lovely iris with the white beard.
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Indeed Iris are capricious germinator!
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I think that this is another old French hybrid, TB
'Déjazet' Vilmorin 1914 possibly 'Agrippa' Cayeaux 1936
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fermi
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I think that this is the TB which Armin showed earlier, 'Ambassadeur' Vilmorin 1920,
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fermi
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Hallo Fermi,
nice 'Ambassadeur'. :D
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I think that this is another old French hybrid, TB 'Déjazet' Vilmorin 1914
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fermi
Hi Fermi,
your fine bearded resembles more 'Crown Prince' or 'City of Lincoln' - not 'Déjazet'.
https://www.historiciris.org/listings/crown-prince/ (https://www.historiciris.org/listings/crown-prince/)
https://www.historiciris.org/listings/city-of-lincoln/ (https://www.historiciris.org/listings/city-of-lincoln/)
http://wiki.irises.org/TbAthruE/TbDejazet (http://wiki.irises.org/TbAthruE/TbDejazet)
What do you think?
cheers
Armin
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Hi Armin,
the pics on the two websites are completely different!
On the Historic iris site I found another possibility, 'Agrippa' Cayeaux 1936 https://www.historiciris.org/listings/agrippa/ (https://www.historiciris.org/listings/agrippa/)
Another one called 'Andromède' Vilmorin 1926 is a possible ID for this one
cheers
fermi
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Very nice to see pictures of old cultivars. :)
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Hi Armin,
the pics on the two websites are completely different!
On the Historic iris site I found another possibility, 'Agrippa' Cayeaux 1936 https://www.historiciris.org/listings/agrippa/ (https://www.historiciris.org/listings/agrippa/)
Another one called 'Andromède' Vilmorin 1926 is a possible ID for this one
cheers
fermi
Hi Fermi,
I like these old irises. 'Agrippa' is a lovely one, too. It is quite difficult to differenciate them by images.
Your ID 'Andromede' could be true, however 'Lent A. Williamson' (E.B. Williamson 1918) is very similar.
In the northern hemisphere 'Lent A. Williamson' is still under commercial production and quite widespread.
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I sorted out pictures from last summer, and here are some old irises. All are found in old places, and do well also here in colder climate.
First one is thought to be 'Flavescens'. It is a common old iris here, and flowers always very well.
Second is possibly 'Sangreal', stronger yellow, and flowers earlier than 'Flavescens', and is also maybe a bit shorter.
Third one has no name, or it is called Terola2, because of the nursery who found it and grows it. One one knows it's real name, so any suggestions are welcome. In my garden it flowers in early June, before 'Flavescens', and it starts when 'Cherry Garden' finishes.
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The next ones are also nameless old varieties. It is suggested that the first one could be 'Antiope', maybe..
In the background of the second and third picture there is a blue iris, an unknown found in two places in Finland where it has been taken to cultivation. There are so many light blue irises, that it may be impossible to say what it is from the photos.
Both of these flower in early June here.
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One more unknown old iris, found in one place here and taken to cultivation. It flowers about mid season, and is very cold hardy and reliable.
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Hallo Leena,
thanks for showing your lovely garden with the irises in midwinter.
It is hard to identify your unnamed ones, sorry.
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Thank you Armin. :)
I know, it is so hard to identify cultivars from pictures, it is the same with all species not just irises.
Some of these old ones must be named cultivars, because they were found in several places, but as new cultivars come along, the names and old ones are forgotten.
I have to show one more iris from last summer. This one I have grown from seeds, and I haven't given it a name yet.
It had flowered already once before but last summer it was so good. I like the colour, sturdy stems and vigour.
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All your irises are very beautiful Leena and they look so good in those large garden beds! The last one is particularly gorgeous.
I also don't know the names of two tall Irises that I found at the present place; they were both on the brink of extinction. The one pictured flowered well last year, after 3 years! It is very tall, extremely fragrant and the flowers are more velvety than the picture can show. The other one, a nice bicolor white/blue, is still to make a come back. It produced one flower, maybe more this June. Only 4 months to go!
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Thank you Gabriela. :)
I'm no iris-expert, and it is so difficult to say from photos, but 'Lent A.Williamson' is tall and old variety looking like yours. I used to have it but gave it away because it needed staking and my sunny places are limited, so I have only some irises left. Anyway, I don't remember if it was fragrant or not. ???
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Thank you for the suggestion Leena. I googled a bit after it and it is a very nice cultivar that seems to thrive on neglect.
It has a fairly good amount of blue/purple in the flowers while mine is reddish/violet to brown, depending on the light. So, I think is something else, but it doesn't really matter.
They are beautiful even without names :)