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Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: PaulFlowers on January 03, 2019, 03:15:19 PM
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These seem a bit early but Avery nice surprise. Frozen solid but iris reticulata ‘happiness’ and then ‘Mars Landing’.
Some years the bulbs split into smithereens but these look ok to me.
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British Iris Society event - Wisley 9th February
"We are very much looking forward to welcoming everyone to our Early Spring Show. It will be held on Saturday 9 February from 10.30am-3.30pm. The venue is the Clore Learning Centre at RHS Wisley. If you are interested in exhibiting, please see our website for details.
Along with BIS members' exhibits, there will be displays of Juno iris from Kew Gardens and rom the National Collection of Crocus which is held at Wisley. There will be 'A behind the scenes tour of the Alpine Yard and Crocus Collection' at 2.00pm.
Fern Harden will be our Artist in Residence and nursery, Woottens of Wenhaston will be selling a wide selection of bearded and beardless iris including Iris sibirica, ensata, pseudacorus and bulbs, reticulata, danfordaie, aucheri, bucharica and Hermodactylus tuberosa.
All BIS members can gain free access to Wisley on all three show days by showing their BIS membership card."
www.britishirissociety.org.uk (http://www.britishirissociety.org.uk)
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Iris pamphylica
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Iris zagrica EGO.IQ129
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Iris zagrica AN06 -a paler form collected in Iran.
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Iris sp. AN07 -from Iran.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4817/46729937331_4b338d777c_o_d.jpg)
Iris sp. AN04 -another Iranian reticulate iris
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4841/46729936581_fe059353d0_o_d.jpg)
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Beautiful photos, Steve. I can't compete.
Iris 'Sunshine' I spotted it showing a bit of yellow in the frame and thought I'll take you into the greenhouse tomorrow but a slug got there before me. I caught it in the act so it is no more.
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2 pics of Iris 'Dance On'
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Iris 'North Star' strongly scented
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Iris 'Reine Immaculee'
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Iris 'Sunshine'
Spot the blue bud hiding there
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The interloper. Looks like one of Alan McMurtrie's. Not sure I like the very spotty ones.
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I think the stray blue Iris could be 'Splish Splash'
I was looking for Alan McMurtrie's website but it seems to have disappeared.
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Alan's site okay for me ..... http://reticulatas.com/ (http://reticulatas.com/)
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A couple of pictures of one of mine.
Iris reticulata 'Blue Note'
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Thanks, Maggi. That link is working fine but the one I've been using still isn't working for me. It looks the same.
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Not sure which one this is- very nice anyway
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Iris histrio JJA588.406
Turkey, Hatay, W of Kişlak. Ex. a N. Stevens coll.
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Lovely iris and superbly grown Tatsuo!
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Iris sp. Iran (AN 08)
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Iris reticulata ex Halkis Dag, Turkey.
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Iris reticulata JRRK-069
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Iris reticulata AS 09-23
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Iris reticulata ex Adiyaman, Turkey
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Iris vartanii
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Lovely iris and superbly grown Tatsuo!
Thank you, Steve :) Your irises are so beautiful ;)
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Another disappointment. I thought I planted 5 bulbs of Iris 'Mars Landing' One 'mars Landing' and 4 blue ones ? Iris 'Splish-Splash'
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Iris reticulata - an attractive form from Armenia.
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It's only "sort of" a reticulata..... but Iris tuberosa is quite a fun plant. I have the standard (yellow/green/brown) colour form on the rockery outdoors, if it survives from one year to the next... but this colour form in this photo came from an eBay dealer who labels if "smokey" and it's quite fantastic. Kept in the cold greenhouse for safety.
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Iris reticulata 'Cantab'
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Hi Roma,
When did you buy your Mars Landing? The 4 blue flowers you got are 00-KV-4 [http://www.reticulatas.com/00-KV-4.html (http://www.reticulatas.com/00-KV-4.html)]. Mars Landing is 00-KV-3. A previous Dutch bulb grower messed up several of the stocks. I'm trying each year when I'm over for a week in March, to get things cleaned up. In Fall 2017 (blooming Spring 2018) people, including myself, were finding they got Chameleon (02-ID-1) [a soon to be introduced variety -- http://www.reticulatas.com/02-ID-1.html (http://www.reticulatas.com/02-ID-1.html)] instead of Mars Landing. I discovered when I was in Holland last March that one planting of Chameleon was incorrectly labelled 00-KV-3 when it should have been 02-ID-1. I made sure the grower knew so he didn't look at his planting map and change the label back. The grower had honestly thought he was distributing the correct variety. For those "lucky people," they got a pre-release.
I don't like to see mistakes happen. I try my best to do what I can to improve things.
The blue you got in Sunshine is Blue Zest (01-JR-1) [http://www.reticulatas.com/01-JR-1.html (http://www.reticulatas.com/01-JR-1.html)] It will possibly be introduced in the future. I'm very surprised, and wonder how that happened. I expected you would find North Star in Sunshine. Here is a portion of what I took out of Sunshine last year:
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I guess it can be very frustrating to constantly see your cultivars mixed by the growers Alan.
I can't complain by getting Chameleon instead of Mars but Roma got a worse deal by the look of her pot.
I look forward to the spring and the Iris flowering, North Star is one of my favourite now because of its fragrance.
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Hi Alan, thanks for your reply. I bought the bulbs September or October last year by mail order from Jacques Amand. I spoke to John at Dunblane today so he said he had had a few reports of wrongly labelled Irises. I did get 'North Star' the last time I bought 'Sunshine' a few years ago. I did like the effect of the one blue flower like a butterfly among the 'Sunshine' but was not happy with the blue ones instead of 'Mars Landing'
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Hi Roma, I am puzzled that the Mars Landing mix up occurred with bulbs bought last year. There must be another batch of bulbs that are mislabeled -- a stock that I didn't see in bloom because of the cold weather last Spring. I will take a look at the stocks when I am in Holland in 2 weeks and try to figure out what happened. Thanks for letting me know !
I am continuing to try to get North Star out of Sunshine. I hope to see this year that my efforts are paying off -- that there are noticeably less North Star in Sunshine.
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A tub of mixed Iris enjoying the late Winter sunshine.
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Iris reticulata 'Harmony'
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Iris reticulata 'Blue Note'
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Just received this from Jan Ligthart in Holland
Small stocks under test are all the blue sticks at the left (in some cases the same variety sent in different years -- to be put together when confirmed to be correctly labelled)
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Retics ready for the Lentetuin in Breezand Holland -- opens to public on Thursday Feb 28
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Iris kurdica, a reticulate Iris probably not that commonly grown but very lovely for its soft color and dark purple (almost blackish) blade of the falls. As a bonus, it is rather tiny. I like it!
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Iris kurdica, a reticulate Iris probably not that commonly grown but very lovely for its soft color and dark purple (almost blackish) blade of the falls. As a bonus, it is rather tiny. I like it!
....and so do I.
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The field on Saturday
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Opposite end of the field
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My Reticulata Iris at this year's Lentetuin
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The theme for this year is Paris
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This doesn't show the Paris theme per se, but does give you an idea of all of the flowers on display
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Some of Alan's first hybrids from late nineties of last century - those are few which Im still growing and regard as best and very unusual. The numbers are below pictures.
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Just received this from Jan Ligthart in Holland
Small stocks under test are all the blue sticks at the left (in some cases the same variety sent in different years -- to be put together when confirmed to be correctly labelled)
In the UK Alan's reticulata hybroids can be bought from Jacques Amand International https://jacquesamandintl.com/ (https://jacquesamandintl.com/) and Rose Cottage Plants -https://www.rosecottageplants.co.uk/iris-spot-on/p1096
Some of the specialist alpine nurseries may have a few too!
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It feels a bit early for the UK, but the first I. tuberosus is now out on the rockery here!
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Here some more of Alan's hybrids - the first three looks as traditional reticulatas, are excellent growers. Then two hybrids with danfordiae. On last picture is another brown which I named as 'Dark Brown'.
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Here two white danfordiae and reticulata hybrids, the number of second was lost.
Then Iris aintabensis seedlings from seeds collected near Gaziantep. In general looks similar to commercial form but between them are few dark coloured, too.
And last two in this entry represents Iris bakeriana - the first is wild form from Iran, W from Lake Urmia, the next - commercial form originating from S Turkey.
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The first 3 pictures are of Iris histrio - the first from Syria, collected shortly before there started war and it was friendly, peaceful country. The other two are from Hatay Province in Turkey.
Two last pictures are of Iris kolpakowskiana - one from Uzbekistan, another from Kirgizia.
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And here all 5 pictures are of Iris species which I regard as Iris hyrcana. All are pictured in various localities of Iran in mountains along S coast of Caspian Sea. Common for all of them is white pollens which in typical I. reticulata sensu lato (still hides several species) are yellow.
Population WHIR-149 is represented by 2 pictures, showing lighter and darker blue forms.
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Still few more I. hyrcana from Iran and then very special Iris - Iris kurdica. It was published by me as subsp. of reticulata and is single one known at present to me with black anthers and pollens. Distributed in Hakkari province of East Turkey.
The last picture shows pure albino of Iris reticulata found in Armenia, near Vanadzor.
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I think the last entry this morning are showing you reticulata irises which at present I name as Iris reticulata sensu lato. All of them has yellow pollens, single exception is very unique sample from near Hamadan - it is dwarfest reticulata iris seen by me - only 5 cm at blooming time. By flower colour resembles I. hyrcana and as it has white pollens. I have 3 samples from region but other two still not bloomed, so I can't judge about their colour.
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The first blooming of Iris sisianica in my collection - recently published species from Armenia (see International Rock Gardener), forming very unusual, long side growing stolones. Bulb photo borrowed from Dima Zubov (Ukraine), who found this species together with Leonid Bondarenko (Lithuania).
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Two pictures of Iris hyrcana - the first from NW corner of Iran, the second from Paeonia wendelboi locality.
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A few photos from Holland at the beginning of March
Smile (03-CC-3) [this is a tetraploid version]
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Wow (05-GQ-3)
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If someone asks, "where do the brown markings come from?"
It's Magic (05-HW-1) [this is a tetraploid version]
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Bright Eyes (03-BK-2)
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Iris pskemensis - it was found accidentally looking for Iris albomarginata, growing almost side by side over village Pskem. We could reach this place only with subport of State Secretary of Defense of Uzbekistan, using military jeep, as the region is closed for visitors due very (exstremely) brutal repressions to local people (using napalm).
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A few photos from Holland at the beginning of March
Wow! Very good, Alan! How long it will take reaching of market
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Iris sisianica - the single reticulata iris with stoloniferous habit - making long underground side growing stolones with small scale leaves and large bulb at end. Found by Dima Zubov and Leonid Bondarenko in Armenia.
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Some Russians put under doubt Iris pskemensis writing on Facebook that there are no difference with Iris kolpakowskiana. So this morning I visited greenhouse for some pictures. On the first picture both - on left kolpakowskiana, on right pskemensis. I specially replaced pot to pot for both flowers will be side by side, for you can see and compare both species. Some of them wrote me that he saw I. kolpakowskiana even at 4200 m altitude, starting from 700 m. Relating high altitudes there are next 2 pictures from 3.500 m altitude. Someone could again ask - what is difference with kolpakowskiana, reply is - you must see the bulb, completely different covers and colour. And the last picture - Iris sisianica - again I could be asked - what is the difference with ordinary reticulata - reply again, check the bulbs. All pictures made this morning, still blooms some kolpakowskiana, in full bloom pskemensis (it always follows kolpakowskianas) and sisianica (all other reticulatas already finished). For winkleri - both are the first two flowers, several still coming. If we will follow my oponents - there are no need for different species for irises... all of them has same type of flower ;D ;D ;D
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...........If we will follow my oponents - there are no need for different species for irises... all of them has same type of flower ;D ;D ;D
I'd settle for that? ;D
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What’s the secret for growing Iris winkleri Janis?
I can’t go to the grave without knowing! ;)
I bought it from you twice many years ago. I promptly killed it on both occasions without ever even seeing it in flower. The bulbs rotted between potting in the Autumn and shooting in Spring. This is no reflection upon the quality of the bulbs you supplied, which were excellent, but are clearly due to deficiencies on my part.
Iris winkleri is used to beat me down. Whenever I discuss buying an expensive plant with my wife she reminds me of Iris winkleri! ::)
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Some Russians put under doubt Iris pskemensis writing on Facebook that there are no difference with Iris kolpakowskiana. So this morning I visited greenhouse for some pictures. On the first picture both - on left kolpakowskiana, on right pskemensis. I specially replaced pot to pot for both flowers will be side by side, for you can see and compare both species. Some of them wrote me that he saw I. kolpakowskiana even at 4200 m altitude, starting from 700 m. Relating high altitudes there are next 2 pictures from 3.500 m altitude. Someone could again ask - what is difference with kolpakowskiana, reply is - you must see the bulb, completely different covers and colour. And the last picture - Iris sisianica - again I could be asked - what is the difference with ordinary reticulata - reply again, check the bulbs. All pictures made this morning, still blooms some kolpakowskiana, in full bloom pskemensis (it always follows kolpakowskianas) and sisianica (all other reticulatas already finished). For winkleri - both are the first two flowers, several still coming. If we will follow my oponents - there are no need for different species for irises... all of them has same type of flower ;D ;D ;D
More from Facebook and Janis on the seedpods of these iris ...
J.J. :Maybe I am wrong ,but the seedpod of Iris pskemensis , always is "higher" up on the stem, whereas many other reticulatas the seedpod is half hidden under soil level?
Jānis Rukšāns: Here we must regard only so named "alatavias" (CA reticulatas). Here picture of kolpakowskiana seedpods and in next entry - pskemensis seedpod. In all "alatavias" seedpod is in some distance from ground.
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kolpakowskiana seedpods
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pskemensis seedpod
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What’s the secret for growing Iris winkleri Janis?
Iris winkleri is used to beat me down. Whenever I discuss buying an expensive plant with my wife she reminds me of Iris winkleri! ::)
I'm killing mine very often, too. Saved by regular hand-pollinating and sawing of seeds. Now I have around 10 blooming bulbs. Suppose that problem is too good conditions. Bulbs are growing too large and as result rots in bulb shed.
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Will you ever offer it for sale again?
It might be growable in a pumice soil.
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Today pictured quite unusual and beautiful colour form of Iris kolpakowskiana from Kirghizia. In background more common color form notable.
Regarding availability of pskemensis and kolpakowskiana - both were offered this year, but as my quota is full I was forced to stop accepting of orders for this season
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Blooming for the very first time
14-AA-1
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14-KV-1
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11-BA-1
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12-JG-1 (new last year)
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Our first retic is Iris 'Harmony'
cheers
fermi
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A few more retics in bloom this week:
Retic Iris 'Pauline'
Retic Iris 'Purple Gem'
Retic Iris 'Gordon'
Retic Iris 'Alida'
cheers
fermi