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Bulbs => Galanthus => Topic started by: Blonde Ingrid on January 01, 2019, 11:45:05 AM
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As befits the season some of the Scottish drops are in evidence today!
First up G. Mona, another beauty from Ian Christie, increasing well and with lovely inner markings.
Next G. First Lady a poculiform from Cyril Lafong, I love the poculiform drops and this one always reminds me of my visit to Cyril's wonderful garden.
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Lovely sunshine here this morning and what a reward, Dryad Gold Charm looking beautiful! Part of the epic Dryad Gold Series, this adds real colour and distinction to the garden.
Like all of Anne's drops this is clumping well!
The good news is she will be offering a limited number of these on Ebay imminently! ;D ;D ;D
Also Eilys Elizabeth Hartley continuing to draw admiring comments from visitors. Again, one or two of these will be coming!
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Hi Guys,
Here is Glenorma doing what it's supposed to do.. It does intrigue/surprise me that no one has commented on the faciation I've observed in the cultivar.... Is it just mine? I reckon up to 10% of scapes show some faciation.. Apart from flattened stems, one of the features is spathes with more than two 'windows'... ( poor photo attached for info.)
Tim DH
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Sorry, Tim, I don´t grow this variety and therefore may offer no experience. But I learnt that twin-scaling may cause aberrations, especially in not well established plants. Did You contact the supplier regarding Your odd ´Glenormas`?
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Sorry, I can’t help either as I don’t grow it.
Spent most of the day in the garden today. Still light enough at 4.15. Loads of snowdrops flowering and looking smart. Too dull for decent photographs though. Flowering in the open garden are several well established cultivars which have been in for five years now. What a good Snowdrop ‘Long Drop’ is. Vigorous and elegant. I have ‘Silverwells’ and ‘Lime Tree’ making attractive large patches now. Try as I might I can’t differentiate between them but I like them. ‘Sutton Courtney’ is open now and is one of my favourites. Another one which seems to do well is ‘Mary Biddulph’, not as refined as her relative, Margaret, but very reliable and attractive. ‘Godfrey Owen’ looks better every year as does Anglesey Abbey’. I could go on... I think I’ve got the bug...
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Lovely bright sunshine here today and a real feast of yellows!
First up two from Anne Wright
Dryad Gold Nugget, with a wonderful olive green inner marking.
Dryad Gold Bullion which has bulked like fury for me, this is another pot in my swaps and spares bunker doing very well.
Next, a major favourite of mine, Ronald Mackenzie, a real pot full on the way and looking divine.
Finally, Golden Fleece, actually looking quite yellow this year. last year was more green. A few more years to see if this is consistent.
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Because it's so beautiful 8)
Galanthus 'Gloria'
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Simple but perfect
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Galanthus elwesii
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Galanthus 'Godfrey Owen'
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Galanthus 'Comet'
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Very unusual morning patrol today, in the bright sunshine, I could hear low voices from my main snowdrop beds saying "Tis awfully taps aff doon 'ere '!!
Google Translate tells me that it is my Scottish drops expressing delight at the weather! 🤣🤣
First up Brechin Tower, one of Ian Christie's specials, named for the inner mark resembling Brechin Cathedral.
Next Brechin Ian, again from Ian, but named after the 'other' Ian Christie, yes, there are too many of them! 🙃
Then Chatton, a lovely diminutive yellow, named after the village.
Just like St Andrew's Day down here!
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A green theme to this morning's patrol.
First up, a lovely pot of Green Tear, doing really well and bulking nicely.
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Next Margaret Biddulph, a vigorous and much underestimated virescent in my view. A delightful plant.
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Next Simply Glowing, in my swap pot bunker. Does well in pots or the garden.
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Next, the return of the 'weed' Philippe Andre Meyer!!! No matter how many of these I give away, clumps of them, it returns and increases back to where I started the following year!
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Finally, the wonderful Hughes Emerald, another variety which bulks well. This shot in my swaps and spares bunker.
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Crikey, you are feeling very green today, Ingrid ! I do think that's the greenest I've seen 'Green Tear ' shown. I hope Gert Jan van der Kolk sees your photo!
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The lovely G. 'Fenstead End' looking stunning today
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Galanthus 'Trumps'
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G. 'Marjorie Brown'
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Galanthus 'Trumps' 2 pics
G. 'Marjorie Brown'
Not the other way around, David? I cannot see anything of 'Trumps' in that first picture.
My comment no longer applies as the post was subsequently corrected to show the pictures in the right order.
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Swapped them round for you, David!
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Many thanks Maggi, complete mix-up on my part.
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This one is going strong for two weeks now, it doesn t mind the weather, it just keeps steady and stable. While the other Galanthus elwesii bulbs seem to have stop their development, the leaves ceased sprouting from the ground. Flower is down sometimes due to overnight and morning frost which we have had for the last couple of weeks. Galanthus nivalis from last year are now starting to emerge from ground, which makes me happy too, they are alive, let's see if they flower.
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A definite theme in today's morning patrol and what a joy, two from Melvyn Jope!
First up, Melvyn's Orange, the first 'orange' drop I have seen that is actually...orange! No need for special lighting, orange filters or the wrapper from Quality Street’s Orange Creme, this drop is orange.
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A lovely orange colour to the inner and very visible. The drop is increasing well for me with an offset already in evidence. Like all Melvyn' drops this is a stunner.
Next, an unnamed Caucasicus, again from Melvyn, this has a lovely inner marking and looks amazing as a potful in the sunshine.
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The usual excellent quality bulbs from Melvyn!
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MELVYN'S ORANGE also here gives a very good display
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and here is another happy duo: SCHORBUSER IRRLICHT + DRYAD GOLD INGOT
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Welcome back, Hagen, I've missed you here.
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THE MORE THE MERRIER, Alan ...
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My sentiments exactly, Hagen.
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3 different kinds of green in one flwer
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3 different kinds of green in one flwer
How pretty
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If it works, I have just updated my website gallery with up to date images of Galanthus and Narcissus cultivars and species. I hope it will be a useful resource for everyone. Find it here:
https://www.dryad-home.co.uk/gallery (https://www.dryad-home.co.uk/gallery)
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If it works, I have just updated my website gallery with up to date images of Galanthus and Narcissus cultivars and species. I hope it will be a useful resource for everyone. Find it here:
https://www.dryad-home.co.uk/gallery (https://www.dryad-home.co.uk/gallery)
Excellent photos, Anne - and clear in the thumbnails as well as when clicked to enlarge to full size.
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Definite yellow theme to this morning's patrol in bright sunshine.
First Ronald Mackenzie, bulking beautifully!
Next Ecusson d'Or' (Simon Savage variation) again increasing well in a pot.
Next, Belvedere Gold, a beautifully shaped and coloured variety.
Next Sarah Dumont, another strong snowdrop which increases rapidly for me. This is one from my swaps and spares bunker.
Finally Grakes Gold, this appears to be quite a weak drop in my experience. Maybe it's the heat of tropical East Anglia.
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Lovely! Sun to spare!
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beautiful pictures, Anne...such a delight just to go through those albums!
Back to my modest G. elwesii: the petals are becoming more pointy, it's a sign the flower is almost over, It happened last year with G. nivalis too.
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WOLFGANG KLETZING with the very long ovary and
SCHORBUSER LAMPION just changing to yellow
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Some drops of the dainty G. nivalis 'Sandersii Group' in frosty sunshine
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See here: http://millroadcemetery.org.uk/sanders-james/ (http://millroadcemetery.org.uk/sanders-james/) for a little biography of James Sanders of Sandersii fame.
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See here: http://millroadcemetery.org.uk/sanders-james/ (http://millroadcemetery.org.uk/sanders-james/) for a little biography of James Sanders of Sandersii fame.
Nice link, Alan, thanks!
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See here: http://millroadcemetery.org.uk/sanders-james/ (http://millroadcemetery.org.uk/sanders-james/) for a little biography of James Sanders of Sandersii fame.
Thank you Alan - that is interesting. Good to know James Sanders isn't forgotten.
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interesting, Alan, thanks
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Hi all,
I made a new Wiki for Snowdrops. You can find it here:
https://www.snowdropwiki.nl/ (https://www.snowdropwiki.nl/)
regards
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Hello Edgar, I happened to notice a spelling error - the cultivar is 'Spindlestone Surprise' not Splindlestone surprise ;)
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Hello Edgar, I happened to notice a spelling error - the cultivar is 'Spindlestone Surprirse' not Splindlestone surprise ;)
and I would say "Spindlestone Surprise" ;)
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Hello Edgar, I happened to notice a spelling error - the cultivar is 'Spindlestone Surprirse' not Splindlestone surprise ;)
Ooops! Corrected my mistake.
For those willing; there is an edit article button above each article to fix any mistakes. :)
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A little group of snowdrops with the River Tweed behind and Scotland beyond. There was no sign of human habitation nearby and these were a bit too large to be the standard nivalis; I'm no good at identifying that type.
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and I would say "Spindlestone Surprise" ;)
Even better, Hagen!!
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See here: http://millroadcemetery.org.uk/sanders-james/ (http://millroadcemetery.org.uk/sanders-james/) for a little biography of James Sanders of Sandersii fame.
Very interesting, Alan. We spend a lot of time in Belford. I wonder exactly where it came from - only a couple of miles from Spindlestone too!
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Here is my Kentish yellow earlier this afternoon. Inner mark starts as a chartreuse type green with a golden glow above, which fades away as the inner gradually turns to golden yellow to match the receptacle. The foliage is particularly notable, with the shoots coming out golden before swiftly changing to a lovely blue green before maturing to a fresh light green colour. It was found in an old garden being batterred by the blustery winds as the tail end of Storm Imogen was going through in February 2016. It has proved quite vigorous. Photographed yesterday (Sunday), two different bulbs showing development.
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A couple of plants with nice foliage:
1 a byzantinus with good glaucous foliage
2 a woronowii with nice light green foliage, a colour later reflected in the flower (a standard darker leaved plant is behind)
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Here is my Kentish yellow earlier this afternoon. Inner mark starts as a chartreuse type green with a golden glow above, which fades away as the inner gradually turns to golden yellow to match the receptacle. The foliage is particularly notable, with the shoots coming out golden before swiftly changing to a lovely blue green before maturing to a fresh light green colour. It was found in an old garden being batterred by the blustery winds as the tail end of Storm Imogen was going through in February 2016. It has proved quite vigorous. Photographed yesterday (Sunday), two different bulbs showing development.
That´s the one You presented already last season , I suppose? I remember admiring pics You showed. Let´s hope it increases soon, really a worthwhile find!
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A very pretty and distinctive yellow drop, Josh! I'm glad it is prolific - that way it will hopefully spread to many gardens and in time maybe even across the channel.
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Here is my Kentish yellow earlier this afternoon. Inner mark starts as a chartreuse type green with a golden glow above, which fades away as the inner gradually turns to golden yellow to match the receptacle. The foliage is particularly notable, with the shoots coming out golden before swiftly changing to a lovely blue green before maturing to a fresh light green colour. It was found in an old garden being batterred by the blustery winds as the tail end of Storm Imogen was going through in February 2016. It has proved quite vigorous. Photographed yesterday (Sunday), two different bulbs showing development.
Nice one , Josh!
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- that way it will hopefully spread to many gardens and in time maybe even across the channel.
Indeed! There is only one G. nivalis with green leaves and yellow marks I know of - ´Ruby´s Gold´. But I don´t know of anybody who owns it and is willing or able to sell or swap.
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As a little change from YELLOWS ;) here are some beautiful new GREENS!
Bearing in mind our theme of MYTHS AND LEGENDS for our ipoc seedlings, some just name themselves, acquiring pet names as soon as they flower (though not registered yet).
First let me reacquaint you with stunning DRYAD DEMETER, not satisfied with a green ‘watercolour wash’ on her outers, she has gone for a bold stroke of deep emerald oil paint! This particular one will belong to a new owner soon, as it is part of our next ebay listings.
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HERA took her name as Demeter’s sister, as this seedling has similar bold markings, but a feminine outward flick to the outers. Hera was known for being GREEN with jealousy of her husband/father Zeus’s philandering with other women.
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ECHO was another instant naming from the faint repeat of green above the apical mark on the outers. Charmingly, she does it again on her inners! Echo was one of the nymphs with whom Zeus was cheating on Hera!
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Finally, as soon as I saw the triple flower on CERBERUS (after I stopped laughing), he was immediately named after the triple-headed guard dog of the underworld.
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Interestingly, Cerberus demonstrates the commonly seen phenomenon of secondary flowers from the same bulb having reduced markings.
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'Cerberus' is amazing, Anne. How often does it manage to do that?
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breath taking i-pocs, Anne.
Absolute fine flowers ...
Congratulations
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'Cerberus' is amazing, Anne. How often does it manage to do that?
UM,,,, once so far! We can hope ::)
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UM,,,, once so far! We can hope ::)
In 2013 John Finch and I found two different clumps of twin-flowered G. nivalis. I took specimens which have not manged to produce twins again until this year. Once every six years isn't as good as I had hoped!
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in the greenhouse opened some snowdrop-varieties:
- a G. elwesii seedling is nearly 30 cm long
- the yellow Spindlestone Surprise
- G. alenii
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x allenii is a favourite of mine. :)
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Sunshine, but very cold on this morning's patrol.
First up, two Scottish drops from Ian Christie:
Castle Green Dragon, a lovely snowdrop and in my 'Great 8' of virescent drops.
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Next Eyebright Early, clumping well.
Next Phil Cornish, another that increases well for me, this one in my swaps & spares bunker.
Modern Art, always a favourite
Simply Glowing catching the sunlight well.
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x allenii is a favourite of mine. :)
I love the bold contrast between green leaves and white flowers, too! Similar qualities shows this hybrid G. nivalis x ikariae by Nicolas Top.
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Galanthus 'Blue Trym' Found and named by Margaret Owen, anyone know where she found it? Appears to be vigorous and certainly stands up well to the cold. Wasn't sure I was going to be all that fussed by it.....turns out it's a little cutie and I adore it.
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A definite Anne Wright theme to this morning's patrol!
First up the beautiful Dryad Artemis, part of Anne's new Myths & Legends series. Stunning markings and shape and what a start to the series!
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Next, the current yellow big-hitter from the other evening Dryad Gold Ingot. I have always been in two minds about the diminutive drops but this is a game changer. It is gorgeous and a real eye catcher and again is increasing well.
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Next, Dryad Gold Ribbon, a very graceful snowdrop, increasing well and brightening up the day.
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Finally, Dryad Gold Charm which has increased dramatically and has a super colour!
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Some very nice trym seedlings flowering for the first time. It was a natural cross so don't know what the other parent was but bungee could be it as the pedicel is very long on one of them at 37mm.
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Galanthus 'Blue Trym' Found and named by Margaret Owen, anyone know where she found it? Appears to be vigorous and certainly stands up well to the cold. Wasn't sure I was going to be all that fussed by it.....turns out it's a little cutie and I adore it.
Yes a lovely drop and as Margaret named it I would think it arose in The Patch.
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Many thanks Brian.
I assumed that but wasn't sure. She is responsible for naming quite a few but not all are from the Patch.
I love to know the details and story about a plant and Snowdrops are some of the best for this.
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Some very nice trym seedlings flowering for the first time. It was a natural cross so don't know what the other parent was but bungee could be it as the pedicel is very long on one of them at 37mm.
Looking at the plant today and the pedicel looked longer so took another measurement and it is now 42mm long. I should add that although I posted it yesterday...The pic was actually taken on the 20th Jan.
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I know all you galanthophiles go on about the shape of the flowers etc, but yesterday the sun was shining and the polytunnel was really warm. Since we hope to be moving I have potted up divisions of the Snowdrops we have in the garden to take with us. They are all flowering in the tunnel and the scent in there was wonderful. Not something most people associate with Snowdrops.
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Hi Palustris,
Scent is an occasional topic of interest.... Try this thread
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11461.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=11461.0)
Tim DH
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I know all you galanthophiles go on about the shape of the flowers etc, but yesterday the sun was shining and the polytunnel was really warm. Since we hope to be moving I have potted up divisions of the Snowdrops we have in the garden to take with us. They are all flowering in the tunnel and the scent in there was wonderful. Not something most people associate with Snowdrops.
Many ordinary Galanthus nivalis have a honey-like scent, and it´s one of my greatest pleasures to walk around the garden or a wood full of snowdrops on a sunny day with temperatures of at least 15 °C. If the temperature is too low, You won´t notice the scent outdoors.
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The other thing which is seldom commented upon, is the number of bees which visit my Snowdrops on sunny days, even in January.
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Some very nice trym seedlings flowering for the first time. It was a natural cross so don't know what the other parent was but bungee could be it as the pedicel is very long on one of them at 37mm.
that's a notably long pedicel, especially if it has grow to 42mm and is held out like the photo shows. one to keep an eye on
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Galanthus ikariae cultivars today.
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Nice ikariae! I have a bit of difficulty seeing it on my phone screen, but is it correct that emerald isle has larger marks on the outers than alexandrite?
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Even on my laptop I may hardly discover a hint of green on the outers of the left ´Emerals Isle´, all the others appear to be plain white here.
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A few of my "not so special" ones.
Galanthus 'Armine'.
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Galanthus 'Comet'
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Galanthus 'Merlin'
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Galanthus 'Tubby Merlin'
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Galanthus woronowii ‘Elizabeth Harrison’ yesterday, bought from Edulis nursery. One of my favorite drops.
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This is still on my wish-list, very nice, Edgar! The green leaves set off the yellow ovary and marks far better than the greyish leaves of most other snowdrops do!
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Nice ikariae! I have a bit of difficulty seeing it on my phone screen, but is it correct that emerald isle has larger marks on the outers than alexandrite?
Alexandrite has more rounded outers and is a more robust plant than Emerald Isle. The marks on Alexandrite are on the apical third of the segment whereas those on EI are longer, and located in the middle of what is a more elongated segment. The marks are of similar intensity on both (quite pale at the moment). At least that is the situation now with this small sample. I have a little patch of unnamed ikariae growing in the garden. They always do well but flowers not sufficiently open for comparison right now.
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This is still on my wish-list, very nice, Edgar! The green leaves set off the yellow ovary and marks far better than the greyish leaves of most other snowdrops do!
Ha, exactly! I do like the greyish leaves of other snowdrops too though. :)
Alexandrite has more rounded outers and is a more robust plant than Emerald Isle. The marks on Alexandrite are on the apical third of the segment whereas those on EI are longer, and located in the middle of what is a more elongated segment. The marks are of similar intensity on both (quite pale at the moment). At least that is the situation now with this small sample. I have a little patch of unnamed ikariae growing in the garden. They always do well but flowers not sufficiently open for comparison right now.
Ahh thanks for the explanation, I guess both varieties have their advantages.
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A German theme to this morning's patrol.
First up Schwefelfee, a pretty yellow from Andreas Handel, translated as Brimstone/Sulphur Fairy, with a lovely sulphur colour on the inner. Increasing steadily. Found by a forester in woodland near Lingen.
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Next, Schlyters Dwärg, as the name suggests a diminutive drop, a hybrid of G. nivalis and G. gracilis, also from Andreas. A vigorous grower both in pots and the garden.
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Among the many G. elwesii var. monostictus flowering now, ´Long Drop´stands out.
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Long Drop is a very fine Snowdrop.
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Long Drop is lovely, Mariette! Are those ridged leaves a normal variation in G. elwesii? I ask because a drop kindly given to me by Melvyn shows similar pleating (see photo)
The second photo is G. 'Miss Wilmott' with 4 scapes this year
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Among the 600 G. elwesii in mixture I bought over the years, as well as in some named varieties of G. elwesii, there are many with the leaves more or less pleated, Anne.
When I receive snowdrops dormant, I pot them and keep them in the green-house till flowering-time. There are flowering ´Robyn Janey´ (on the left) and ´Miss Willmott´side-by-side now, and I´m surprised how similar the flowers look. Both show two scapes - I´m looking forward to see my ´Miss Willmott´ doing as well as Yours next year!
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'Long Drop' really stands out. :)
About 'Emerald Isle': it is one of the few that I have lost. It flowered the first spring here, but failed to come up after last winter, which was hard. Maybe it is not hardy enough to grow here?
A few of my "not so special" ones.
But they look fine and grow well. That is important! :)
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About 'Emerald Isle': it is one of the few that I have lost. It flowered the first spring here, but failed to come up after last winter, which was hard. Maybe it is not hardy enough to grow here?
Galanthus ikariae is regarded to be not hardy in most parts of Germany, so it ought to be worse in Finland, I´m afraid.
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The yellows are coming thick and fast here in the sunshine!
First up, Belvedere Gold, a slow plant to increase, but getting there. This is one of my spares, in a pot.
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Next Utrecht Gold looking lovely and clumping well, a good garden plant as well as pots. Looks lovely in the bright sunshine.
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Next Donaugold, very small and slow growing yellow.
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Finally Bill Boardman, always performs well and quite early for me this year.
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some different forms of Galanthus elwesii and Galanthus woronowii still not open.
I was expecting all bulbs of Galanthus elwesii looking rather the same plant, but it seems like they sell different cultivars as Galanthus elwesii.
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These photos of Galanthus 'Brenda Troyle are from David Shaw today - thanks to Carol for passing them on.
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I must try and get hold of 'Brenda Troyle'... It has poise and is beautifully proportioned.
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Some verdant green leaves on Ruslan's drops:
A tall and early G. lagodechianus with a pretty flower
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A miniscule G. lagodechianus (PL-SV-16-2160)
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G. woronowii
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G. woronowii
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Weather a bit damp with you, Anne? Not a great time of year , is it?
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Are those ridged leaves a normal variation in G. elwesii?
I agree that this is perfectly normal. I have asked the same question myself and this is the answer I was given. I think it was suggested to me that one of the leaves may be pleated whilst not the other of the pair.
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Weather a bit damp with you, Anne? Not a great time of year , is it?
Haha, Maggi! Scottish weather: sleet, rain, snow - with temperatures just below or just above freezing. And no sunshine...
Alan: That is exactly the case in a few of my elwesii: one leaf pleated the other normal
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I love the very unusual shape of this findling!
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I love the very unusual shape of this findling!
Reminiscent of 'Moses Basket'. See for example http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12754.msg324529#msg324529 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12754.msg324529#msg324529)
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Reminiscent of 'Moses Basket'. See for example http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12754.msg324529#msg324529 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12754.msg324529#msg324529)
Alan I've not come across that one before but I do like it. It has a really nice shape to it. I may have to wait for the price to come down before I can get one though!
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Freezing here so snow not melting, everywhere very icy. Some snowdrops bought as dormant bulbs last summer. No idea what they were like but pleased with these. Kept in potting shed until ready to plant out later this year. Howick Starlight, Hans Meier and Tear Drops.
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Lovely view beyond your frozen garden, Susan!
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Yes, we are fortunate to have 180 degree view of the Vale of Clwyd and on a clear day Snowdon in the distance.
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Yes, we are fortunate to have 180 degree view of the Vale of Clwyd and on a clear day Snowdon in the distance.
Wow!
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on the way to orange markings ...
left: RONALD MACKENZIE
right: one of our newer "LIGHTS"
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on the way to orange markings ...
left: RONALD MACKENZIE
right: one of our newer "LIGHTS"
Oh nice orange. Are you breeding towards red markings now? :D
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on the way to orange markings ...
left: RONALD MACKENZIE
right: one of our newer "LIGHTS"
Really interesting. It will be fascinating to see how these develop.
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Oh nice orange. Are you breeding towards red markings now? :D
haven't enough live time ... ;)
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on the way to orange markings ...
left: RONALD MACKENZIE
right: one of our newer "LIGHTS"
Looking good!
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What an achievement, Hagen - that looks very special!
Those of us without greenhouses have to make do with yellow blobs in the snow :-)
(G. plicatus 'Madelaine')
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Galanthus ikariae is regarded to be not hardy in most parts of Germany, so it ought to be worse in Finland, I´m afraid.
Thanks Mariette. :)
Those of us without greenhouses have to make do with yellow blobs in the snow :-)
I don't even have any blobs in the snow yet, there is too much snow, but I so enjoy all the pictures everyone is posting. :)
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Those of us without greenhouses have to make do with yellow blobs in the snow :-)
(G. plicatus 'Madelaine')
Lovely, Anne! Though I own a green-house, I enjoy snowdrops much more like this. And the yellow ones are unsurpassable piercing through the snow!
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Pots of Spindlestone Surprise and Madelaine are bringing in a spot of sunshine, and Dryad Demeter is looking good here just now.