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Title: Wild flowers?
Post by: Gerard Oud on April 20, 2008, 05:59:37 PM
Just found these in my garden, and i am sure they were not there last year.
I cant find it in my wildflowerbook, that is very small also by the way.
Anyone can help?
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Maggi Young on April 20, 2008, 06:13:06 PM
Hello, Gerard, these are Cardamine pratensiswhich are known in England as Lady's Smock.... as far as I know , in Scotland we call them Cardamine pratensis !! ;)
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Martin Baxendale on April 20, 2008, 06:19:46 PM
They're a lovely wildflower, Gerard. I've sown some seed this year to try to get them elstablished in my garden (although they prefer moist soil and my garden's rather hot and dry - but I do have some damper patches). You're lucky to have had them self-sow into the garden. One of my favourite wildflowers.
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Gerard Oud on April 20, 2008, 06:30:07 PM
Thanks Martin and Maggi,
I can't find them in the whole area and i don't know how they got here, maybe with the birds.
I will try to get seed from it and who'se interested just let me know!
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Susan Band on April 20, 2008, 07:02:01 PM
Gerard,
Since these are happy in you garden look out for the double form also lovely but rarely seen in nurseries, don't know why not. I will try and get a photo when they flower. I just noticed yesterday that the Lady's smock were starting to flower on the road verges around here.
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on April 20, 2008, 07:10:04 PM
greeting from germany, our meadows lost this treasures. Be proud to have it (cause all your galanthus are gone). But what do your quatros?
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Lvandelft on April 20, 2008, 09:31:03 PM
Just found these in my garden, and i am sure they were not there last year.
I cant find it in my wildflowerbook, that is very small also by the way.
Anyone can help?

PINKSTERBLOEMEN, Gerard.      ;D :D
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Gerard Oud on April 21, 2008, 05:38:44 AM
Thanks all,
I found it in my book but it was a drawing and not easy to recognise.
Luit the translation for Pinksterbloem could be Withsunflower, bit early this year don't you think!
Susan i will try to find a double one, i found several snowdropdouble's so why not a Withsunflower.
Hagen all my snowdrops are out of flow also, but what do you mean with quattro, not the fourwheeldrive Audi i suppose?
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Lvandelft on April 21, 2008, 05:58:23 AM
Thanks all,
I found it in my book but it was a drawing and not easy to recognise.
Luit the translation for Pinksterbloem could be Withsunflower, bit early this year don't you think!

Gerard, we cannot translate every Dutch word, sometimes you can only try to describe some words.
I've seen  Lady's Smock already, it's quite normal this time of year when they flower.
But I have the time looking around, being retired ofcourse..... :D :D


Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 21, 2008, 11:58:20 AM
Cuckoo Flower is another name. It is a very important foodplant for the Orange Tip butterfly (Anthocaris cardamines) in Scotland.
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Lvandelft on April 21, 2008, 12:33:27 PM
Cuckoo Flower is another name.

Cuckoo Flower in Dutch = koekkoeksbloem, which is here the name for Lychnis flos-cuculi.
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Thomas Huber on April 21, 2008, 12:58:53 PM
It's called Wiesenschaumkraut in my part of Germany and as you can see
we havn't lost this treasure, Hagen!

Never saw a double, but to be exact, I have never searched for it. Will do that in two weeks
or so, when they are in flower again, Susan!
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 21, 2008, 02:36:41 PM
I had (have?) a double form but it is sterile. The normal form is very common, even in lawns, in Dunblane. Alas, it soon gets cut down. Each plant can only support one Orange Tip caterpillar, but they are cannibalistic, so problem solved. :P It is not flowering yet.
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Susan Band on April 21, 2008, 02:43:14 PM
The double form is a nursery cultivated form, I think you would have to be very lucky to find it in the wild. I don't know where or when it was found. I imagine it is a very old cultivar.
Susan
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: mark smyth on April 21, 2008, 03:49:16 PM
Flowering here, now, also but will soon be destroyed along roads by the Roads Service when they cut the grass
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: mark smyth on April 22, 2008, 07:52:55 AM
Here is a male orange-tipped feeding on the plant
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 22, 2008, 11:16:13 AM
Flowering here, now, also but will soon be destroyed along roads by the Roads Service when they cut the grass

Miriam Rothschild will be turning in her grave. She campaigned for years to get the halfwits in the councils to stop cutting roadside verges until August (or, better, once every two years in the Autumn) to allow flowers, butterflies, moths and other insects to flourish.
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 22, 2008, 11:34:25 AM
Last weekend on my way the perth, and also Saturday 5th April when I drove to The Wirral, I noticed the lovely carpet of pink, and occasionally white, Danish Scurvy-grass (Cochlearia danica) along the central reservation of the motorways/dual carriageways.
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Maggi Young on April 22, 2008, 11:52:37 AM
Last weekend on my way the perth, and also Saturday 5th April when I drove to The Wirral, I noticed the lovely carpet of pink, and occasionally white, Danish Scurvy-grass (Cochlearia danica) along the central reservation of the motorways/dual carriageways.
Yes, Anthony, we have been marvelling at the depth of colour in these carpets of tiny flowers, making the road edges glow.... really lovley.... wonder how many people know what the flowers ARE??
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 22, 2008, 12:05:22 PM
It is rapidly becoming 'The Motorway Plant'! :)
www.ukwildflowers.com/Web_pages/cochlearia_danica_danish_scurvy_grass.htm
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Roma on April 22, 2008, 11:04:36 PM
Does anyone know how Cochlearia danica became so widespread on motorways and dual carriageways?  The wildflower books say it is a seaside plant. I first noticed it a number of years ago on the A 96 north of Aberdeen out past the airport roundabout but the road people dug out the soil and replaced it with a greater depth of gravel. I don't know if the plant has returned yet as I rarely drive in to Aberden since I retired.
Title: Re: Wild flowers?
Post by: Anthony Darby on April 22, 2008, 11:57:13 PM
It's an annual and spreads rapidly. The salt used in the winter when gritting the roads probably makes motorways the ideal habitat.
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