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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: colin e on January 07, 2018, 03:01:26 PM
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A continuation from the post of 21/12/17
It is a new year and down in the south west of England things are moving faster than I would like; I am still getting to grips with the climate down here.
I have taken all but six seedling pots out of the fridge as they have now had three months at 5c max. The fridge did get a low 3c at some point. Of the 92 pots of seeds that were in the fridge, 45 pots have germinated and emerged; 11 have germinated but not emerged yet which leaves 36 pots, some of which I can see the growing embryo in the seed, but the root has not come out of the seed yet. There are a small number of seed pots that I do not think will do anything because the seed was not very good in the first place, but you never know. The picture below shows some of the seedling pots.
Pots with live roots out of the bottom is now up to 218 pots and pots with growth above the gravel is now up to 69 pots. The Fritillaria gibbosa shown in the last post is pictured below as it is today not quite in flower. The Fritillaria ariana from that post is now in flower and pictured below. I now have to hope we do not go the way of the USA and freeze! I think I saw temperatures of -29c on the news!
Colin
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great photos
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Thanks Arda.
A continuation from the post of 07/01/18
It is now two weeks since I took the pots of seeds out of the fridge and a further 15 pots have now germinated and emerged taking the grand total of emerged seed pots to 60 so far.
Pots with live root out of the bottom has slowed up now with most of what is left being pots of small young bulbs or bulbs that root late for me. On the other hand, pots with growth above the gravel is now up to 104 pots. The first Fritillaria gibbosa still does not like the temperature enough to stand up straight yet. The same can be said for the second pot of Fritillaria ariana which is just starting, but the first ariana is nice and straight. The second pot of Fritillaria gibbosa to flower you would actually think was the first, as it is standing up straight; this is from JJA seed. Another JJA seed plant is this Fritillaria straussii which always starts flowering at gravel level but it does eventually come up. It is also supposed to get some dark tessellation but never does so.
Colin
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Good to see so many seedlings popping up, Colin. I had no Frits germinating before I went away for Christmas. When I came back to the Uists I found many pots with seedlings pushing up. A check this weekend found the following, in no particular order: F.pinardii; F.bithynica; F.kittaniae; F.carica; F.bucharica; F.stribrnyi; F.strausii; F.serpenticola; F.rixii; F.ehrhartii; and F.ariana.
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Glad to hear you are getting good germination and emergence Mat. Now you have to grow them on for a few years before they will flower. Sorry to be a kill joy.
Colin
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Thanks, Colin! ;D Some of the best plants are worth waiting for.
I have young bulbs from previous years sowings flowering each year now, so the next 6-7 years for these Frits to flower will pass in a flash.
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Fritillaria karelinii-A pale-flowered form and the first in flower here.
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Maggi here is a better form of Fritillaria gibbosa JJA 495.856 I thought you might like.
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A cracker, Colin !
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A continuation from the post of 20/01/18
The number of germinated and emerged seed pots is now 70 out of a total of 92 giving 75%. But if I exclude the pots of seeds that I did not expect to germinate (poor seed) it would be 70 out of 85 giving 82% and of the 15 seed pots not yet emerged, 6 of them were sown later than I like. I live in hope.
Fritillaria with shoots above the gravel has now gone from 104 to 195 pots, and pots with live roots out of the bottom is now 231 pots. So the plunge now has a lot of red (roots out of the bottom) and purple (shoot above gravel) labels, so at a glance I know what each pot is doing. Picture of plunges below. One surprise I have had is Fritillaria glauca which has shoots just above the gravel like a lot of other pots but I would not normally expect them yet.
I have two pots of bulbs sown in 2014 that are going to flower for the first time this year: A Fritillaria gibbosa that has an interesting coloured bud - time will tell how good a colour it is (picture below) and a pot full of Fritillaria stenanthera shoots that look thick enough to flower. These were both crosses that I made myself so it ups my interest.
Coming up to flowering for the second time for me are firstly a seed-grown Fritillaria eduardii var inodora, and secondly a bought bulb of Fritillaria ‘Early Passion’. This is a recent introduction from Holland and is, if I remember correctly, a cross between Fritillaria imperialis (a yellow form) and Fritillaria raddeana.
Colin
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My three different seed sourced pots of Fritillaria chitralensis are in flower now and it is interesting to see the slightly different petal shape from each source. It did worry me at first but I have been assured that they are all Fritillaria chitralensis. I am trying to make seed but our night time temperatures have fallen to -3c and forecast to get colder so this could kill the developing embryos. I will see what happens.
Colin
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A continuation from the post of 05/02/18
I now have 80 seed pots that have germinated and emerged, up from 70, plus 1 sowed 06/12/16 and only just now germinating and emerging. This is just another example to me that it is better to keep late arriving seed till you can sow them in the following autumn.
Most things are on the move now with 260 pots with greenery above the gravel, up from 195 pots.
The Fritillaria gibbosa that had an interesting coloured bud is in flower now. The petals are a bit too thin to be pure Fritillaria gibbosa. I reckon it has got something else in it - ariana or karelinii, both of which have narrower petals than gibbosa. Also, I do like the twisting leaves. The Fritillaria stenanthera is also in flower now and has stayed short so far which is what I was after, but they are young bulbs (sown 2014). Time will tell what they do eventually. Another first flowering for me is this Fritillaria sewerzowii; quite a pleasing bicolour effect I think. I have made a number of sowings of Fritillaria sewerzowii from different sources to see what colour variation I get.
Colin
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My Fritillaria eduardii var inodora looked very vibrant today so I took a picture. Here, I am now moving on to the next lot of bulbs in the flowering season which as usual is starting with Fritillaria caucasica. This one is always the first Fritillaria caucasica to flower followed by two others which are still in tight bud. Finally a Fritillaria kittaniae JJA0497.700 with a fasciated flower though the stem is not, or maybe it was going for two buds on that stem but did not quite make it.
Colin
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Quite some time ago at a Fritillaria Group meeting at Wisley I took along a pot of what I had labelled as Fritillaria karelinii? because I was not 100% sure it was karelinii. There were also a number of other pots labelled as Fritillaria karelinii and they were all quite different in one way or another. We were also fortunate to have Martin Rix talking to us that day so Rannveig Wallis asked if he would give his opinion of them. He did and started by saying none of them were true Fritillaria karelinii. I cannot remember what he said about the others, but of mine he said it was the most karelinii-like but he thought it had crossed with Fritillaria gibbosa, but could not be certain so I called it Fritillaria karelinii x gibbosa. Pictured below.
It took me some time but I started to line breed them to see what would happen. I have to say now, although I hand pollinated I did not isolate the flowers. So it is possible other pollen could have gotten on to the stigma. I now have a sibling cross of the originals pictured below. Which I feel would bring into question that gibbosa was the other parent, as this plant looks more ariana-like to me, with thinner petals and a more open flower spacing. Also the leaves on these plants are more slender and in keeping with Fritillaria ariana. I then took pollen from this plant and pollinated one of the original plants. Seeds from that cross were sown and have now flowered and the flowers on these plants do look like they have gibbosa in them, being a fuller looking flower with wider petals and not such an open appearance. The leaves on the other hand are still slender and more in keeping with Fritillaria ariana than gibbosa. So with hind sight I am more inclined to say it was a cross between Fritillaria ariana and gibbosa and had no karelinii in it. To be fair to Martin he did say it was not Fritillaria karelinii and he could not be certain what it was.
Colin
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Ariana does look to be more likely in your line crosses, doesn't it. Very fetching "mixed widgets" as we call them.
Ian has grown F. swerzowii from quite a number of seed sources over the years and the variation in them is delightful -both in colour and the arrangement of the flowers - not a bad one amongst them.
I must say I prefer the broader petals in the F. chitralensis, with the feint striations - a bit more "glam"!
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Beautiful plants Colin; you grow them very well.
The variation in those chitralensis is interesting so fingers crossed that seed develops.
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I have to confess this week has been a first for me in that I have never had such low temperatures with so much vegetative growth. Ok it only went down to -6c but it stayed below freezing for three days and the plants looked awful. The last time I got into the greenhouse I took some pictures of some very sorry looking plants to have a reference. The soil thermometer in the plunge was saying -0.5c. The snow came down and then the freezing rain; my greenhouse was encased in ice (picture of glass below). I then could not get in or see in very well for two days! To my surprise, today they all look ok. Yes I have heard in lectures that this is what happens but the implied length of time is overnight not three days! Below: two plants looking awful at the start of the freeze and then what they look like today.
Colin
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The Fritillaria chitralensis seem to have made it through the freeze, but as yet no indication of any seed set. They were under fleece and the thermometer did record -1c. So it is just a waiting game now.
Colin
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These are just starting to flower for the second time for me. I grew them from seed obtained late in 2011 and sown in 2012. The seed packet said Fritillaria fleischeriana but when Laurence saw them he questioned if they were labelled correctly and he was right to do so. When I looked at the style it was wrong and the leaves were not really canaliculated as they should be. So I now have it labelled Fritillaria aff pinardii. It is quite variable and I will post more flower pictures as they open.
Colin
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I currently have two Fritillaria latifolia var nobilis in flower. Both are flowering for the first time for me, one sown in 2009 and the other in 2013.
Colin
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Wonderful plants Colin, thanks for sharing.
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Here is another flower of what I currently have labelled Fritillaria aff pinardii with a more yellow hue. I say currently because it is under discussion again and I may have to wright another label for it depending on the outcome.
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Lovely Frits Colin! All the more remarkable given the recent adverse weather.
My Fritillaria pinardii look slightly different to your plants and it certainly seems to be a variable species with some similarities to carica and kittaniae amongst others.
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Here is another flower of what I currently have labelled Fritillaria aff pinardii with a more yellow hue. I say currently because it is under discussion again and I may have to wright another label for it depending on the outcome.
Colin hi,
Can you show a more detailed photo of the foilage?
I saw many pinardii and fleischeriana in wild so I may help.
Best regards.
Arda
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Hi Arda,
I will try and do something tomorrow.
Colin
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Go away for a few days at this time of year and everything changes. More flowers - first Fritillaria graeca x davisii. I just liked the way the flowers lined up and spaced themselves for the picture. I put a picture of a single flower with extra petals up before and you can see it on the right of Fritillaria kittaniae JJA 0497 700. The pot is starting to look good. This Fritillaria poluninii sown in 2013 is flowering for the second time on small bulbs and the open flowers are only 1 cm across. Fritillaria thunbergii has done well for itself this year producing this from 6 bulbs. Fritillaria walujewi, although is seems to grow for me, I just do not think I give it a cool enough winter to get good flowering from it. The potential is there as I get quite a few aborted white buds, but not many flowers.
Colin
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So many great frits, Colin - weeks ahead of us here in Aberdeen
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Fritillaria season hast started on sunday with Fritillaria stenanthera as in most of the previous years.
Great frits Colin!
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Whilst other Frits are now starting to flower here it is mainly the ”Rhinopetalum”group that are providing the current flower power.
Fritillaria gibbosa
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Fritillaria ariana
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Fritillaria stenanthera
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The plant below came from Jan Jilek as “Rhinopetalum sp. new location”. To my eye it resembles bucharica.
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Hi Arda,
This is what has been said this year about the pictures I have put up on the Fritillaria Group Facebook page:
Bob Wallis said “The leaves are very narrow and canaliculate. I am not sure that it is F pinardii either. What is the style like? If it is more than 1mm wide then it is like F assyriaca. Are the un-dehisced (F assyriaca) anthers yellow or black (F melananthera)?
I have had a check through our records and I suspect that this seed may have come from us. It looks very like plants that we have seen around Ermenek in Southern Turkey which ought to be F melananthera but they have yellow anthers belying the Latin name. I can only call them F assyraica in that case. The style is stout and trifid at the tip without being divided into branches. The flowers are typical of F melananthera. I think that this the plants in that area need some more work.”
Laurence Hill said “Before adding this to the Fritillaria Icones website there was an exchange of emails with Martyn Rix. Based on both its morphology and location it was listed as aff. pinardii”
I have also put three more images of Fritillaria aff pinardii and two of Fritillaria fleischeriana JJA 495 560 from 2017.
Colin
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Got this small (6 cm) plant from Japan without a name.
Can one of the experts please help me with the name?
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Hi Steve,
Yes I would go with Fritillaria bucharica for your “Rhinopetalum sp. new location”. It looks very similar to one I have labelled as Fritillaria bucharica Hodji-obi-garan. I have put a picture of a flower of this below which shows the petal shape to be very similar. This does bring up an issue that I also have if you have a large collection of Fritillaria: keeping things pure is not easy, as they can use pollen from something you do not want them to transferred by a wild pollinator. An example of this is shown in the second picture which came to me as Rhinopetalum pink sp but as you can see it is just a Fritillaria bucharica. The seed parent may have been a pinkish bucharica or something different but the pollen parent must have been a dominant white bucharica. So you end up with something that may have something different in it but looks just like a bucharica.
Colin
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I was relieved when this Fritillaria rixii flowered because it is a form from Evia and I have lost the parents so if this pot of seedlings did not come true I would not have it. Another yellow Fritillaria is this Fritillaria sibthorpiana subsp enginii; as well as having the two leaves at the base instead of one I find it is shorter in overall height than my Fritillaria sibthorpiana. The last of my Fritillaria karelinii x gibbosa sibling cross back crossed onto one of its parents is flowering; it is just a nice picture. I have also put a picture of the pot of Fritillaria aff pinardii (fleischeriana) which shows the variation in flower colour. This is the 2012 sowing. The pot sown in 2013 from a different batch of seed is only just starting to flower. Finally a plant grown from seed labelled as Fritillaria zagrica but which has turned out to be a Fritillaria michailovskyi with a nice short growing habit.
Thanks Stefan, Chris and Steve for the compliment; I do try but do not always get it right.
Colin
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I was relieved when this Fritillaria rixii flowered because it is a form from Evia and I have lost the parents so if this pot of seedlings did not come true I would not have it.
Colin, has your Frit. rixii narrow leaves evenly spread along the stem? My pictures of plants show this feature contrary to the broader leaves of Frit. euboeica. Is there any difference in the flowers between both?
Greek botanists did not accept Frit. rixii in a discussion on Facebook last week. They consider all as Frit. euboeica.
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Rudi, I think your Japanese Frit might be Fritillaria shikokiana. If it is this species it should have blueish anthers (not visible in your image). My Fritillaria shikokiana is currently in flower -I will try to get an image of it over the next few days.
Colin, many thanks for your opinion on my “Rhinopetalum sp. New Location”. I have over time acquired a few “Rhinopetalum sp.” which on flowering turned out to be bucharica or stenanthera but, just occasionally, something out of the ordinary turns up. Most of these I have currently labelled as karelinii or aff. karelinii but it would be good to get the opinion of others. I have taken some images in the last few days and will post them.
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Below are some of the various forms of karelinii and ”aff. karelinii” that I grow. I have a few smaller plants that haven’t yet flowered including one from China. I also have a white form of “aff. karelinii” from Baisun-tau, Uzbekistan which in looks would seem to sit somewhere between karelinii and bucharica -unfortunately this had already flowered before I got a chance to photograph it but here is a link to an image on Janis’s current catalogue: http://rarebulbs.lv/index.php/en/catalogue/product/view/1/7506 (http://rarebulbs.lv/index.php/en/catalogue/product/view/1/7506)
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Fritillaria karelinii “New Location 1”
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Fritillaria karelinii ex Turkmenistan
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Fritillaria karelinii ex Uzbekistan
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Fritillaria karelinii ex Uzbekistan close-up of flower.
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Fritillaria karelinii pale form that was in flower some weeks ago.
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Fritillaria aff. karelinii
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New link on Fritillaria Icones site - Important addition to the taxonomy of Chinese Fritillaria
Complete chloroplast genome of seven Fritillaria species, variable DNA markers identification and phylogenetic relationships within the genus
Yan LI1,2, Zhirong ZHANG3, Junbo YANG3, Guanghui LV1,2
PLoS ONE 13(3): (2018)
http://www.fritillariaicones.com/info/news/news_2018/Li_et_al_2018.html (http://www.fritillariaicones.com/info/news/news_2018/Li_et_al_2018.html)
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Stefan, sorry not to get back to you sooner; I currently only have one Fritillaria euboeica flowering in a pot of seedlings. Picture below to show the leaves. What I often do to show differences in leaves is divide the width measurement into the length measurement of leaves to give a ratio figure. What I get for my Fritillaria euboeica is 1 in 3.57 for the basal leaves, but as you can see in the picture the leaves above these look narrower and these give 1 in 10.2. The Fritillaria rixii Evia 700-800m (picture below) is 1 in 6.5 so this rixii has narrower basal leaves than the euboeica but the leaves above them look wider but gave 1 in 10, so similar. I also have a rixii grown from Gothenburg seed. These gave a figure of 1 in 6.8 for basal leaves but again the leaves above these look wider than my euboeica but they actually gave a 1 in 14.6 figure. The width of all the upper leaves was actually the same at 5mm it was only the difference in length that gave the different figures. The width of my Fritillaria euboeica basal leaves was 14 mm and the Fritillaria rixii came in at 10 and 11 mm. The leaf spacing looks fairly even on all of them. Hope this answers you question.
Colin
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Rudi, I think your Japanese Frit might be Fritillaria shikokiana. If it is this species it should have blueish anthers (not visible in your image). My Fritillaria shikokiana is currently in flower -I will try to get an image of it over the next few days.
Steve, thank you for your identification. You are right with Frit. shikokiana, my plant has also blueish anthers.
Colin, many thanks for your opinion on my “Rhinopetalum sp. New Location”. I have over time acquired a few “Rhinopetalum sp.” which on flowering turned out to be bucharica or stenanthera but, just occasionally, something out of the ordinary turns up. Most of these I have currently labelled as karelinii or aff. karelinii but it would be good to get the opinion of others. I have taken some images in the last few days and will post them.
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Fritillaria erhartii
I grow very few of this genius, after reading Paul Cumbleton's articles i tried to grow my bulbs into seramis.
It's success after several years of failure.
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While congratulating myself on actually achieving some flowers on my Fritillaria davidii (I always send the biggest bulbs out to customers), I then noticed that the leaves look dreadful. Are they supposed to do that?
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Stefan, sorry not to get back to you sooner; I currently only have one Fritillaria euboeica flowering in a pot of seedlings. Picture below to show the leaves. What I often do to show differences in leaves is divide the width measurement into the length measurement of leaves to give a ratio figure. What I get for my Fritillaria euboeica is 1 in 3.57 for the basal leaves, but as you can see in the picture the leaves above these look narrower and these give 1 in 10.2. The Fritillaria rixii Evia 700-800m (picture below) is 1 in 6.5 so this rixii has narrower basal leaves than the euboeica but the leaves above them look wider but gave 1 in 10, so similar. I also have a rixii grown from Gothenburg seed. These gave a figure of 1 in 6.8 for basal leaves but again the leaves above these look wider than my euboeica but they actually gave a 1 in 14.6 figure. The width of all the upper leaves was actually the same at 5mm it was only the difference in length that gave the different figures. The width of my Fritillaria euboeica basal leaves was 14 mm and the Fritillaria rixii came in at 10 and 11 mm. The leaf spacing looks fairly even on all of them. Hope this answers you question.
Colin
Thanks Colin for your detailled explanation! I would conclude that is not necessary to seperate Fritillaria rixii from Fritillaria euboeica based on leaves.
All Fritillaria euboeica that I have seen in the wild grew in sunny habitat, whilst Fritillaria rixii mostly in shadier places. Therefore the differences in leave measure were much more distinct than yours.
What was the reason to seperate Fritillaria rixii from Fritillaria euboeica? I don't have the description of it. I see a bit different colour of nectaries at Fritillaria Icones but it is just a single plant of each. I see also slightly different colours in my own pictures.
Fritillaria euboeica from Pixaria:
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Fritillaria rixii from Kandila:
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Habitus of Fritillaria euboeica
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Habitus of Fritillaria rixii in full sun
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Thank you for sharing interesting pictures of frits in their habitat, Stefan :D
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Fritillaria japonica, white flower form :)
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Fritillaria stenanthera, JJA503.208 :)
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I love these Fritillaria stenanthera. The white one looks blueish in real life
The sewerzowii is lovely too.
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A few plants that did not make it to the South West AGS Show last Saturday: A Fritillaria carica AS 54700 from Gothenburg seed sown in 2013; considering it is seed raised it is quite uniform in height. Fritillaria crassifolia (roylei): I have the roylei in brackets because I got the seed as roylei but it is actually a crassifolia. Fritillaria minima: I was very fortunate to be given some of these again after losing mine when we moved. Fritillaria recurva: I think I am beginning to get my head round growing these now but time will tell. Fritillaria sororum: This does seem to cause some debate. Is it a form of Fritillaria acmopetala or a separate species? Your answer I suspect will come down to whether you are a splitter or lumper.
Colin
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The Fritillaria eastwoodiae are also starting to flower for me. I will only have one flowering pot this year. (First two pictures below)
I made seed of Fritillaria eastwoodiae in 2014 and it has flowered for me this year. I know in that year I was still using small paint brushes to transfer pollen. I now prefer to pick an anther off one plant and apply it directly to the style of another. My reason for doing this is best shown by the first flowering of the Fritillaria eastwoodiae 2014: to me it looks like I mixed up the small paint brushes and ended up putting recurva onto eastwoodiae. You only need someone to distract at the wrong time and mistakes are made. Seeing the flowers on the two bulbs that have flowered for me, they look like they have recurva in them (pictures three and four). It will be interesting to see what others look like. On a similar theme the last picture is a first flowering of a sowing of Fritillaria rixii in 2015 off a plant of mine which is most definitely rixii but I have no idea where the pollen came from, it was done naturally by insects!
Colin
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At last I got seed of F. meleagroides, pontica and pudica. Has someone any short advice how to sow them?
BW
Hannelore
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This may help, Hannelore....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2006/061206/log.html (http://www.srgc.org.uk/bulblog/log2006/061206/log.html)
http://www.srgc.org.uk/journal/young/bulbsfromseed.html (http://www.srgc.org.uk/journal/young/bulbsfromseed.html)
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Thanks!
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Colin, I know next to nothing about Frits but I do enjoy reading your posts.
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From Fritillaria Icones - news of an exhibition ....
Szachownica – różnorodność w kratkę (Fritillaria- checkered biodiversity) opens tomorrow at University of Warsaw Botanic Garden, 1 April - 4 May http://www.ogrod.uw.edu.pl (http://www.ogrod.uw.edu.pl)
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Thank you for saying so David it is the general idea.
Colin
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Spotted in southern Evia. Would this be Fritillaria ehrhartii or perhaps Fritillaria obliqua (flower angle?).
edit to add An update on this. Bob Wallis identified the Evia plant as Fritillaria ehrhartii (in its type locality!)
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Nice to see these in their natural range Steve.
Having never seen either of these Frits in the wild I am not in a position to advise.
I grow F.obliqua and its ssp.tuntasia as well as ehrhartii. I find ehrhartii to be a dwarf species with almost succulent, rather glaucous and often propeller-like leaves. Obliqua with me is a taller, more robust plant with thinner leaves. Both have similar flowers but the tips of the tepals of ehrhartii have more prominent yellow markings.
Below are some images of my ehrhartii and obliqua.
Ehrhartii:
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Obliqua:
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Nice to see these in their natural range Steve.
Having never seen either of these Frits in the wild I am not in a position to advise.
I grow F.obliqua and its ssp.tuntasia as well as ehrhartii. I find ehrhartii to be a dwarf species with almost succulent, rather glaucous and often propeller-like leaves. Obliqua with me is a taller, more robust plant with thinner leaves. Both have similar flowers but the tips of the tepals of ehrhartii have more prominent yellow markings.
Below are some images of my ehrhartii and obliqua.
Thanks Steve, fabulous photos. Judging from your description and the images, the height and leaves of the Evia plant looks more like F. obliqua although you can see a trace of yellow on the tips of tepals...
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Not a lot of use to you in this case, Steve - but obliqua smells nice!
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Some more Fritillaria currently in flower. The first picture is Fritillaria bithynica grown from my own seed sown in 2014. The second is a Fritillaria bucharica grown from seed from Fritillaria Group seed sown in 2002; it was described as ex Razjon village Tadjikstan. It has taken its time to get going with a few ups and downs on the way. Thirdly, Fritillaria meleagroides this was grown from Fritillaria Group seed sown in 2001. Although this is quite a tall Fritillaria I do think the overall shape of the plant is very appealing. I cannot get a reasonable picture of the plant as it is the tall one at the far end in the middle of all the greenery in the fourth picture! Lastly a Fritillaria reuteri JJA 502 450. Jim’s seed list description is Iran, NW of Esfahan. (Extremely local in the Bakhtiari country of the central Zagros range but numerous in a few, seasonally moist, stony meadows at 2500-3000m. Wide mahogany bells, broadly bordered with yellow, not unlike F. michailovskyi but taller & more delicate, both in habit & constitution. Not easy & scarce in cultivation, though several growers have found it takes well to life outside in N Europe. It certainly prefers not being too dried-out in summer.)
I do find this does have a more pleasing growth habit than my other reuteri which looks a bit untidy.
Colin
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Not a lot of use to you in this case, Steve - but obliqua smells nice!
I'd usually try and give a flower a sniff to check for scent, Maggi, but didn't this time. I was delicately balanced trying to avoid getting snagged on a group of Euphorbia acanthothamnos - the chicken wire plant!
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This is Fritillaria lusitanica, found in central Portugal in the Easter day. This site has many specimen, but some were already finishing flowering. They are very pretty, and somewhat rare to find.
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I'd usually try and give a flower a sniff to check for scent, Maggi, but didn't this time. I was delicately balanced trying to avoid getting snagged on a group of Euphorbia acanthothamnos - the chicken wire plant!
The perils of fieldwork!
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This is Fritillaria lusitanica, found in central Portugal in the Easter day. This site has many specimen, but some were already finishing flowering. They are very pretty, and somewhat rare to find.
Always a delight to see plants in habitat, Jaime.
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Last year I put pictures of this JJA493.310 Fritillaria crassifolia subsp. crassifolia on what was the Fritillaria Group Forum. They were all like the first picture but this year one has flowered and looks like this second picture.
JJA seed list description: 493.310 Fritillaria crassifolia subsp. crassifolia Turkey W. of Erzincan ex BATM 286 unstable terraced slopes of black stones.
The next two are a couple of RRW crassifolia 92134 and 9325. The last is a seed raised one from Fritillaria Group seed sown in 2010, Fritillaria crassifolia subsp hakkarensis FG 10 25A
Colin
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Just catching up with your posts Colin.
Superb frits, all grown very well. Your Frit. minima is particularly impressive; I find this to be a difficult plant which, like alburyana tries to open its flowers before fully breaking cover.
Your post on crassifolia is interesting -especially as the provenance of your plants is known.
I grow a single clone each of crassifolia ssp. crassifolia and crassifolia ssp. hakkariensis -well that’s what the labels say. Both were bought as adult bulbs and so I have no “provenance papertrail”; perhaps they are not even true crassifolia.
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Thanks Steve for the compliment. I have to confess I do fined the identification of the whole Fritillaria crassifolia group a bit of a mine field as differences can be interpreted differently of this very variable group by different people.
Colin
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I have always had a soft spot for Fritillaria drenovskii and over the years have built up a small collection. The Fritillaria drenovskii strid & al 54375 were seed raised plants from Gothenburg seed. The last one is Fritillaria Group seed and has the odd characteristic of the style protruding from the flower bud. This seems to be a fixed trait for this plant.
Colin
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Great variation with some lovely forms of Fritillaria drenovskii Colin.
Here some frits have been held back by the cold Spring.
Fritillaria gibbosa -this clone flowered much earlier last year but is more compact in growth this year.
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Fritillaria alburyana LST 247 -two different plants; they liked the recent cold Spring.
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Fritillaria forbesii
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Fritillaria minuta
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Fritillaria shikokiana
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Colin and Steve this is fantastic, you're skilled growers :P
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Many thanks Yann!
On a good day I can take the occasional half-decent plant photograph; however I still have a lot to learn when it comes to cultivation of bulbs and alpines.
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Spotted in southern Evia. Would this be Fritillaria ehrhartii or perhaps Fritillaria obliqua (flower angle?).
An update on this. Bob Wallis identified the Evia plant as Fritillaria ehrhartii (in its type locality!)
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Thanks Yann for the compliment but the plants do most of the work.
Colin
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Nothing rare here, but Fritillara meleagris has established well in the bank at the bottom of the garden.
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Hard to beat F. meleagris for colour and elegance, isn't it?
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Nothing rare here, but Fritillara meleagris has established well in the bank at the bottom of the garden.
It exists in my garden rather than thrives!
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A very nice surprise plunge seedling this year - Fritillaria recurva. I grew it in this plunge but at least 5 years ago now....I’ve noticed large single leaves for a few years but this is the first flowering growth.
Alex
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Hard to beat F. meleagris for colour and elegance, isn't it?
That's true Maggi, this is still one of the most elegant plants in the garden. And this is the first time they are growing in my garden too. Again, they were planted in October and only now they are starting to flower, let's see how they cope with drier conditions in summer. Also, I planted them in the shade and in a place that doesn't get too dry: near plants that get some water in summer.
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I am not fortunate enough to be able to go and see Fritillaria liliacea in the wild like some people have shown it. I have to make do with it in a pot. The same can be said for Fritillaria biflora var ineziana (or should it be Fritillaria grayana?) I do like the strong contrast of colour in the biflora var ineziana. Fritillaria affinis - you could fill a greenhouse with the variation it displays. The first picture shows two plants flowering at 30-38cm that came from the same seed packet. The last picture is another Fritillaria affinis flowering at 10-15cm.
Colin
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You comment about not being able to visit the plants in the wild reminded me of a story of Fritillaria lilicaeae here a long time ago - a form obtained as being FS ; it took many, many years to reach a size where it even managed a small flower. :-X :(
It's not as though my Head Gardener is a slouch in growing these things! 8)
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F. meleagris
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F. meleagris
That's an impressive clump of F. meleagris, they look stunning Philip. Thank you.
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The garden was full of flowers after 2 weeks of absence. Some were already faded, especially Fritillaria bucharica and stenanthera.
Fritillaria ariana
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Fritillaria amana has multiplied over the last years and I planted them everywhere in the garden.
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Fritillaria amana Gokzum Gold
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Fritillaria aurea
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Fritillaria aureax fleischeriana
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Unusual Fritillaria bucharica
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Fritillaria carica
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Fritillaria caucasica
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I have sown this as Fritillaria chlororhabdota
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Fritillaria conica
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great selection, all grown in pot?
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Yes, but just A-C and Rhinopetalum.
Fritillaria drenowskyi, seed sown, first flower from the foothills of Mts. Menikion and Falakron.
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Fritillaria frankiorum, also the first time to be in flower.
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Fritillaria euboeica:
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Fritillaria hermonis from the garden
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I have several sources of Fritillaria grandiflora, seeds and bulbs, all are looking quite similar but the flowers are not really big:
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I have read this winter that Fritillaria grandiflora is the same as Fritillaria kotschyana but mine are looking completely different and they have huge flowers.
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Dwarf plants with huge flowers, these are the following species:
Fritillaria mecedonica
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Fritillaria tubiformis
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Fritillaria moggridgei
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And I am still looking for Fritillaria latifolia. I still don't know where it is hidden between other Fritillaria. I have seen it in march with 3 plants in bud and can't remember where.
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Fritillaria meleagris does well in my garden.
All neighbours have clean lawn, already mown besides ours. Some parts are left untouched till the middle of August just before the first Colchicum autumnale will appear.
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Fritillaria meleagris does well in my garden.
All neighbours have clean lawn, already mown besides ours. Some parts are left untouched till the middle of August just before the first Colchicum autumnale will appear.
Impressive pictures of F. meleagris, I wish I could have them as beautiful as yours. Hhank you Sokol.
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Fritillaria lusitanica. I've found them in another spot, but this time only few of them were still in flower. In this place there was some variation in color within population.
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Nice to see Frit. lusitanica in its natural habitat unfortunately with the lily beetle like everywhere.
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The first one seems to be an extraordinary variation !
Thank you for posting These pics!
Gerd
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The first one seems to be an extraordinary variation !
Thank you for posting These pics!
Gerd
They are lovely Gerd, and yes some nice variations in flower, This is a somewhat variable species. I have some babies in cultivation in my garden, but no flowers yet..maybe next year.
Nice to see Frit. lusitanica in its natural habitat unfortunately with the lily beetle like everywhere.
I've seen some Lily beetle in the gardens near by, probably it came from there into the wild populations... not good at all...
Jaime
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Don't worry, they are everywhere where I have seen Fritillaria in the wild. Only one population of all had really suffered, it was my first place of Fritillaria obliqua. All the others looked fine instead of some beetles.
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Fritillaria latifolia nobilis
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Fritillaria minima
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Ive been having a go at establishing Fritillaria meleagris in my lawn, and planted a few bulbs from a well known UK nursery in my front lawn last autumn. One of the flowers looks different to the rest. Note the turned out perianth tips and the twin flowers on the same inflorescence. Could it be a hybrid?
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The last Fritillaria affinis to flower for me this year is a yellow one. This I think is Fritillaria epirotica. I have grown it from seed a number of times but it never was the right thing. These were some bulbs given to me - thanks David. The next picture is a warning: more care should be taken now when checking plants. This was a seed capsule on Fritillaria latifolia var nobilis grown from Gothenburg seed; it is just still attached, I will have to see what happens! The last two pictures are of a plant I grew from seed labelled Fritillaria purdyi x biflora. I did not know what I was going to get and I am not complaining.
Colin
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Just about at the end of my season and two different seed grown Fritillaria glauca are in flower. The first was grown from Gothenburg seed and the second one from my own seed. I think the two pictures that are looking into the flower show the advantage of growing from seed. You may not always get what you want but the variation makes up for that. Everything is now starting to go into dormancy. Even having put the heavy shading on before those few hot days I did not manage to keep the greenhouse cool enough to keep them going. Now comes the truth: just how well did I do this year? I will only know after repotting when I can compare pictures of the bulbs from 2017 with what they look like this year.
Colin
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Ive been having a go at establishing Fritillaria meleagris in my lawn, and planted a few bulbs from a well known UK nursery in my front lawn last autumn. One of the flowers looks different to the rest. Note the turned out perianth tips and the twin flowers on the same inflorescence. Could it be a hybrid?
No, it looks quite normal and twin flowers occasionally occur. I started 25 years ago to put some bulbs in my lawn. They are growing well since then and appearing everywhere.
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Nice Frits Colin!
The season is coming to an end here also; apart from those below and recurva there are just the Chinese species to go.
Fritillaria purdyi
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Fritillaria liliacea
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The same here, just Frit. liliacea and camschatcensis are still in bud. The hottest april ever is a real challenge not only for the Fritillaria to become dormant not too early.
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Here they are.
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The first dark Fritillaria camschatcensis I have raised from seed.
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Fritillaria Seed Reference now showing 119 taxa from Fritillaria Icones:
download from here:
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Only one species of Fritillaria graces our garden.... so far ;D Thankfully there actually was an alba bulb in the packet of F meleagris!
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Any ideas on what this is?
The seed was labeled F. carica in the NARGS seed ex. Certainly not that....
maybe caucasica? armena?
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Any ideas on what this is?
The seed was labeled F. carica in the NARGS seed ex. Certainly not that....
maybe caucasica? armena?
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Nice plant Rick!
It certainly looks very similar to the plant I grow as F. caucasica.
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The late flowering Frits here are the Chinese species, F. affinis and F. recurva.
Fritillaria tortifolia -the large square-shouldered flowers have intricate red-purple markings inside.
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Fritillaria yuminensis -the flowers have a bluish hue in good light (I couldn’t move my plant out of its frame as it had intertwined with neighbouring plants).
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Fritillaria pallidiflora -quite robust and does well in Scottish gardens.
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Fritillaria verticillata -the true species is similar (if not identical) to albidiflora; most commercial sources of verticillata prove to be thunbergii.
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Fritillaria monantha -an attractive species grown in China as a medicinal source. The flowers are similar to but less densely tessellated than hupehensis.
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Fritillaria hupehensis -another species grown for medicinal use. The flowers are slightly larger and darker (more heavily tessellated) than monantha.
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Beautiful, Steve.
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Very nice Steve; you do have the advantage of being cooler than me. All of mine have gone to sleep or are thinking about it.
Colin
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Very nice Steve; you do have the advantage of being cooler than me. All of mine have gone to sleep or are thinking about it.
Colin
Aye Colin, I’m a real cool dude! 8)
At least when your plants go to sleep they wake up again. ???
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I forgot to post the images of affinis and recurva last month.
Fritillaria affinis -typical form.
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Fritillaria affinis -yellow form.
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Fritillaria affinis var. tristulis
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Fritillaria recurva
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Fritillaria camschatcensis -I think this is the Eurasian form (??).
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fantastic collection!!! :P
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From Fritillaria Icones ....
Six new white-flowered Japanese Fritillaria named :
http://www.fritillariaicones.com/info/news/news_2018/Naruhashi_2018.html (http://www.fritillariaicones.com/info/news/news_2018/Naruhashi_2018.html)
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I’m not sure if this is best asked here or in another thread (sorry, still finding my way around!)
What fairly easy species would you frit fans suggest for a summer-dry area under deciduous trees in my Mediterranean-ish climate (cool, dry summers, fairly mild, wet winters, and northern latitude)? I’ve got sandy soil that drains very well, and I can grow F. meleagris in other areas with some irrigation.
I’m looking at F. involucrata, pontica, montana, and whittallii - do these seem reasonable to try? Any others? It’s likely I’ll need to grow them from seed, so I’d appreciate any opinions, cautions, or suggestions before I begin!
Thanks,
Kelly
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What fairly easy species would you frit fans suggest for a summer-dry area under deciduous trees in my Mediterranean-ish climate (cool, dry summers, fairly mild, wet winters, and northern latitude)? I’ve got sandy soil that drains very well, and I can grow F. meleagris in other areas with some irrigation.
I’m looking at F. involucrata, pontica, montana, and whittallii - do these seem reasonable to try? Any others? It’s likely I’ll need to grow them from seed, so I’d appreciate any opinions, cautions, or suggestions before I begin!
I asked Eugenijus Dambrauskas, the owner von www.augisbulbs.com (http://www.augisbulbs.com) in LITHUANIA the same question. He recommended:
Fritillaria bucharica - dry lover
Fritillaria eduardii - dry lover
F.crassifolia ssp.curdica - trouble -free
F.michailowskyi - easy, very attractive
F.acmopethala, F.olivieri, F.uva-vulpis - H-50cm, very easy.
Unfortunately he has already stopped selling, but perhaps you can find some of these elsewhere.
BW
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I’m not sure if this is best asked here or in another thread (sorry, still finding my way around!)
What fairly easy species would you frit fans suggest for a summer-dry area under deciduous trees in my Mediterranean-ish climate (cool, dry summers, fairly mild, wet winters, and northern latitude)? I’ve got sandy soil that drains very well, and I can grow F. meleagris in other areas with some irrigation.
I’m looking at F. involucrata, pontica, montana, and whittallii - do these seem reasonable to try? Any others? It’s likely I’ll need to grow them from seed, so I’d appreciate any opinions, cautions, or suggestions before I begin!
Thanks,
Kelly
You could try John Lonsdale of Edgewood - The Lonsdale Garden at http://www.edgewoodgardens.net (http://www.edgewoodgardens.net)
See his profile as a forumist at JohnLonsdale for other contact details. He grows and sells a lot of bulbs.
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I’m looking at F. involucrata, pontica, montana, and whittallii - do these seem reasonable to try? Any others? It’s likely I’ll need to grow them from seed, so I’d appreciate any opinions, cautions, or suggestions before I begin!
Hi Kelly,
if you haven't already joined SRGC or AGS or NARGS it would be a good idea; the Seed Exchanges usually have a good range of seed of Fritillaria (as well as other little treasures) - I've grown a few from them over the years
cheers
fermi
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Thanks for sharing those suggestiong, Hannelore! F. michailovski and uva-vulpis are occasionally available in my area, too, so it’s great to hear they can take some shade. My trees in that area leaf around April (northern hemisphere) and I’m not sure which fritillaries will still be above ground then. Have you tried any of them yet in your spot? Any luck?
And thanks for the connection, Maggi — I’ll keep an eye on what John is offering! There are a few companies who sell some fritillaries, so maybe I can try a few while I wait for the rest to grow...
Yes, Fermi, I’m an SRGC member, starting to put my wish list together! I actually love growing from seed, and the range of what’s been offered in past years is amazing. I just try to make sure I have the right conditions before I grow a whole pot full of something.
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From Laurence Hill of Fritillaria Icones :
Phylogenetic analyses reveal the Chinese medical plant “Beimu” Fritillaria ebeiensis as a separate species http://www.fritillariaicones.com/info/news/news_2018/Wei_et_al_2018.html (http://www.fritillariaicones.com/info/news/news_2018/Wei_et_al_2018.html)
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The season has started and my Fritillaria davidii are in growth.I am still learning how best to manage them down here in Somerset. I think what I did with them this year looks like it was the correct place to have them in the summer. They have not liked either of the places I have put them before. It was easier when we were still in Wraysbury; I knew where they had to go to get them to flower (it is not always were you want them!).
As our night time temperatures are due to be under 10c for the next two weeks so I have given all my pots their first watering. I had already rearranged all of them to where they will be for the 2018/19 season. The usual culprits had live roots out of their pots even before watering and being in dry potting mix (walujewii, tortifolia and chitralensis).
I have also sown all my own Fritillaria seed and also those that came too late to sow last year. They are all outside for two weeks before going into the fridge. I was not supposed to be sowing many this year, but I have still managed more than 40 pots!
Let’s all hope for a good growing year after this hot dry summer.
Colin
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Laurence Hill of Fritillaria Icones gives notice of this paper ....
New Open Access Paper: Functional Diversity of Nectary Structure and Nectar Composition in the Genus Fritillaria (Liliaceae) by Roguz et al. 2018 http://www.fritillariaicones.com/ (http://www.fritillariaicones.com/)…/ne…/Roguz_et_al_2018.html
Laurence writes : Laurence manages the membership, moderators, settings and posts for Fritillaria Group of the Alpine Garden Society.
Thanks to Colin Everett for Fritillaria material this research was able to cover a broader spectrum of the genus.
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Fritillaria messanensis ssp messanensis Mt Kedros from Marcus Harvey 2002 (thanks to Yann for correction of the name of the Mountain!)
cheers
fermi
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Continuing on from my post 22/09/18. Yes we did have night time temperatures under 10c for two weeks. Although it has felt very mild and forecasts have given minimum temperatures well into double figures, the highest minimum I have recorded in our garden is 11c, and that for only one night. However maximum daytime temperatures have been well above 20c quite often, so I do not know what time of year the bulbs think it is. That said, I know quite a few bulbs have started and got good root growth as I currently have 77 pot with live roots out of the bottom. Of the 77 pots, 33 of them are long toms so the bulbs in these pots have already got a decent length of root. I like to get good root growth because I work on the principle that with good roots you have a better chance of getting good bulbs.
The seeds sown on the 20 of September went into the fridge on the 6 of October and I will need to keep an eye on them from the start of November. I had some seeds arrive in early October which, although getting a bit late for my preferred sowing time, is not too late so I sowed them on the 9 of October and they are still outside but will go into the fridge in the next seven days.
Colin
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Things have definitely moved on down here in Somerset. My count of pots with live roots out of the bottom is now running at 195. I have not quite made it to 50% of my pots yet but most of the pots without roots out are those I would not expect to have them yet. The usual culprits have growth above the potting mix and some above the gravel topping. The most advanced is of course Fritillaria karelinii, one pictured below. Most of the others are either ones in the Rhinopetalum group or Fritillaria from the USA. With one exception: Fritillaria persica OP213063 being grown from seed. They germinated and had emerged above the gravel on 06/11/17. This year they were above the gravel on 06/11/18 it will be interesting to see when they make it above the gravel in 2019.
I went through this year’s pots of seed that are in the fridge properly for the first time this year and found 12 pots that had germinated, 4 of which had also emerged above the gravel.
Colin
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The most advanced is of course Fritillaria karelinii
Crumbs! Buds so well developed already!!
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Just an update on the Fritillaria karelinii pictured yesterday.
Colin
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Very nice Colin.