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Bulbs => NARCISSUS => Topic started by: Andrew on January 01, 2007, 05:42:32 PM
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I've been waiting for a nice sunny day to take a picture of this, from our bulb guru up North.
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Narcissus romieuxii mesatlanticus.
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Why is that a mini version ?
When I posted the woodpecker picture (Wildlife 2007), that came out full size!
Let's try something,
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Narcissus romieuxii mesatlanticus.
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That's better :D
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yes I agree. How's it done?
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I think Maggi stated that the idea was to keep it in the thumbnail version so that it would be easier to load.
I see no problem in clicking to make them bigger.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Hi Mark
all the details for how to post big pictures have been given on the forum (admitedly split between various threads). It has also been made clear by the moderators that it would be prefered to avoid posting large size pictures unless there is a particular reason.
Thumnails have the benefit of loading easily for people who are not yet on broadband and also have the added bonus of showing how many times the image has been 'enlarged'.
(If you want the info on posting big pics send me an email).
cheers
John
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They are looking good Andrew.
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Andrew,
Both photographs are fine. The thumb enlarges fine with a click.
Excellent narcissus.
Paddy
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Yesterday, I was reading about a scientist who measured and recorded the growth rate of his fingernails for 30 years. That doesn't seem to me to be a very exciting thing to expend patience on. I am now able to tell you that by experimentation, I have determined that the rate of growth of a plant is inversely proportional to how much you want to find out what it is like, especially when flowering for the first time. When observed closely twice a day (at least) the incremental growth IS NOT PERCEPTIBLE AT ALL! So I invite you all to join me in waiting for this new hybrid to flower. It is a cross between Narcissus hedreanthus and asturiensis, so I'm hoping it will be cute and small. Will it have the best bits of both parents, or the worst? Watch this space...
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You are absolutely right Anne and I can tell you that if you go away from home for just two days it will have opened fully, flowered and died away again, before you get home!
I've seen a few seedlings from the same cross (not mine) here in NZ and they were very good, very small and neat, lovely shapes and colours.
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Oh No! We're away this weekend!
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yes I agree. How's it done?
By magic :) :)
They are looking good Andrew.
I'm sure they had a good start in life ;)
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I think Maggi stated that the idea was to keep it in the thumbnail version so that it would be easier to load.
I see no problem in clicking to make them bigger.
I know when downloading, sometimes you get the full size picture and it is sized to fit the 'hole'. As a test I looked at the picture sizes on this post (Sorry Anne but yours is the only other picture post and is does show my point very well :)).
My thumbnail 33k
My fullsize 45k
Anne's thumbnail 55k
So as you can see the same picture has a little difference in size, something that I would not be bothered about and some thumbnails can even be larger.
Thumnails have the benefit of loading easily for people who are not yet on broadband
As someone who is still on a modem I have one thread downloading in the background while reading another, as gardeners what is a few minutes when we wait years for seeds ?
and also have the added bonus of showing how many times the image has been 'enlarged'.
I think I prefer how many people did not what to see the large image.
Of course everyone is entitled to there own opinion.
Thank you
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here are a couple of Narcissus bulbodium from Brian Duncan the N Irish daff breeder
The first one he found in Morrocco but I dont know if it different from the norm. The second one is paler but no name and the last is the two side by side. My camera doesnt do the colours very well and shows them paler
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Here is Narcissus 'Tarlatan' flowering in the greenhouse.
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Anthony,
N. 'Tarlatan' has a fabulously delicate look about it, tissue-paper thin it would appear.
Paddy
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Here is a nice 'new' bulbocodium type I was given last year. It has lived up to its name, flowering in December and it has the largest flowers of any of this type that I have seen ... Nice!
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Many thanks, Tony. Fabulous bloom. Paddy
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Tony, do you think it could be a bulbocodium/romieuxii cross? The stamens have that curved look about them and the stigma is well out. Depending on how true the colour is, both colour and texture look like rom. `Atlas Gold' though taller. It certainly is very attractive. The early flowering could also have come from a romieuxii form. Just a thought. But if so, it opens some interesting possibilities.
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Anne, how's your little hybrid coming along?
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Hasn't moved.. ::)
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Cracking daff Tony, really shines.
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Would anybody like a copy of the RHS 'Daffodils with Snowdrops and Tulips' 2006-2006? I was sent an extra copy by mistake. Email me if you would like it.
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thanks for the offer Anne but my copy is already paid for and in my grubby little hand. Perhaps it could be a prize for the 'who used to look like this'.
John
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A few pics of daffs that have cheered my day. Cedric Morris still in flower and looking nice, as is N albidus occidentalis SF16. Camoro now in full flower - oh glory! Can't find much about albidus occidentalis - can anyone enlighten me - I think I got this from Ian Y himself? And to whom does the SF refer?
Cheers
Dave
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Hi Dave
Look under Narcissus romieuxii ssp albidus var occidentalis and you may find it.
The nomenclature of that entire section of Narcissus is full of confusion, well it confuses me, they make a rule then break it for the next species.
The S of the SF stands for Mike Samson SHOULD BE SALMON !! of Narcissus fame.
It is one of my all time favourites and I am always reluctant to part with it so cherish it.
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Many thanks Ian. I shall cherish it - its one of my favourites too (as is Camoro). I'm glad you parted with a few bulbs a couple of years ago. Earlier this season N mesatlanticus has also been good, and increasing rapidly; pity it's now all but over. Enjoy the wee dram - cheers!
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The F is Mark Fillans.
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Andrew thanks for the F.
So, SF16 was collected by Mike Samson should be SALMON !! and Mark Fillans.
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I like verry much that N.Tarlatan, here a few from my greenhouse:
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Lesley you could well be right about December Gold - As I beleieve it arose in cultivation there is a strong possibility of it being a hybrid.
Mike Salmon of Narcissus fame may be a big strong chap but I beleive he is very happily settled with Delilah and Monocot Nursery has apparently not - see below (or above if like me you have the most recent post displayed first!) shut up shop :(
Yes, Salmon, not Samson, sorry about that! IY
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Here's another from the same stable then - Narcissus albidus SF110, (which incidentally does't look like the one in the RHS 'Daffodils with Snowdrops and Tulips', which looks like yours above!), next to the tiny N. cantabricus tananicus, with cheeky upturned flowers only about 11 or 12mm across.
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Mike's seed list arrived today
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I thought he had retired-was I wrong??
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David - I thought so too but Mark clearly know better. I have ammended my earlier post accordingly!
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Bought as N. albidus zaianicus, I expect romieuxii should be in there as well !
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Flower 4cm across.
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Mark, do you have an address for Mike Salmon please?
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I would like to present my narcissus too it looks quite different from here. I have seen it fortuitous
when I was looking around for some crocus. it should be narcissus serotinus.
best regards..
Ibrahim SOZEN.
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Ibrahim - your beautiful narcissus looks like N tazetta.
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It is peak flowering time here for the winter flowering narcissus in Section Bulbocodium. They are flowering brilliantly this year .. must be something to do with following the BD's regime :) I think the long cool spring in 2006 helped too, the plants stayed in growth longer than usual. Only pity is that grown close together they are a little drawn and the dull mild weather of late has not helped :(
N albidus occidentalis - distinctive long corona and very narrow petals behind.
N albidus SF110 - one of the best and very vigorous here
ex N albidus SF110 - offspring almost always as good although there is bound to be some hybrid blood given that I grow so many in close proximity.
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Next batch.
N romieuxii Hat - A Kath Dryden selection, quite short stemmed.
N Atlas Gold - very good golden colour. Not vigorous here. Does it do better for you?
N bulbocodium genuinus - another slow to bulk up.
N bulbocodium mesatlanticus - originally form Washfield Nursery this form bulks up well. Really elegant and a good yellow.
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And finally.
N Joy Bishop - a lovely scalloped form, quite small and a bit weak here.
N romieuxii hybrid, Roll Rim seedling - one I seperated out, slowly making up a potful.
N Roll Rim Escapee - an even better one which has 'appeared' in my covered bulb bed!
N cantaricus 'laciniatus' - A Mike Salmon plant raised from his seed. Vigorous and a good pure white but a bit tall. Not as elegant as the really dwarf forms of N cantabricus.
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Enjoying these pix, Tony. What a pity that some of these more desirable varieties such as the N. cantabricus laciniatus ( and what a stunning potfull you show) do not lend themselves to the treatment of the commercial bulb growers in Holland so that they could be more available in the trade to everyone. Well, not, everyone, I apologise to those folks in Australia, New Zealand etc, I realise you couldn't get them even if the Dutch growers could crack them. I suppose we must just be grateful that there are some forms available in the trade.
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David ,
Here is the adress of Mike Salmon :
M R Salmon
St Michaels,Littleton , Somerton , Somerset, TA11 6NT
United Kingdom
Telephone
(01458) 272356
Fax
(01458) 272065
Best wishes
Hans
Mark, do you have an address for Mike Salmon please?
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Hello,
Another pic
Narcissus albidus subsp. occidentalis according to Michael Salmon classification.
Regards
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Tony, thank you very much for correction. In the same area there are also two tazetta registered.
One is tazetta ssp aureus, second one is tazetta ssp tazetta. N. tazetta has many flowers each branch which I have seen. Mine has only two per branch that lead me to mistake. I will notice that.
Your crocus pics are realy wonderfull.. I admire them.
best regard..
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Enjoying your narcissus pictures, Tony
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Hans-many thanks for Mike Salmon's address.
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Hi David ,
I'm always glad if I can help .
Could you please may be a scann from the new seedlist of Monocut ?
greetings
Hans
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Hello,
Another picture of Narcissus albidus subsp. occidentalis with 15cm snow.
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Hans, Sorry,I don't have a scanner-maybe Mark would scan his copy for you though.
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Hi David ,
No problem -I have in the meantime received the list from a other plantfriend.
With best wishes
Hans
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Hello,
I upload two pictures of a wild Narcissus from Granada Coast (Spain) from my friend Joaquin Ramírez. I think it is Narcissus calcicola, but I'm not sure.
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That's a wee smasher. :)
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very cute
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A charming little N. calcicola, Rafa. Is it flowering now in the wild? Ithink of this a being very early for our in captivity, they will not be out for a long time yet.
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Yes it is, is flowering in the wild near the sea in Granada coast
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Hello,
About the last Narcissus picture, my friend Gerd Knoche has corrected me, it seems that it is Narcissus gaditanus as the leaves are green and Narcissus calcicola has the leaves glaucous.
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Rafa,
Delighted to see your photographs, or your friend's photographs, of narcissus in the wild. It was a great treat to view all your photographs from the wild last year, so much more interesting than those grown in pots in glasshouses whicih is the best we can do here.
Please treat us again this season with your photographs.
Paddy
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Many thanks Paddy,
Of course I will continue posting wild narcissus pics from Spain.
I have received an e-mail from J.F. Casas, the little Narcissus picture is Narcissus fernandesii J. Gomes Pedro var. rivasmartinezii (Fdez. Casas) Fdez. Casas.
Here Narcissus romieuxii ssp. romieuxii from Salmon's collection.
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Rafa,
Delighted to hear we will see continued posting of narcissus in the wild. I find this so much more enjoyable than those taken of plants in captivity, so to speak.
I am curious: do you grow any of these flowers in your own garden or are you happy with seeing them in the wild?
Paddy
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Here, you can see in the country 30km round my village about 9 species and some natural crosses mabye 4 or 5.
This one is from my garden ;)
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Wonderful Rafa !
Thanks
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Great picture Rafa, they do look better against a blue sky rather than pots etc.
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Lovely pictures Rafa, I enjoyed them, thank you
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Two of my little Narcissi :
Narcissus cantabricus ss cantabricus
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Narcissus zaianicus lutescens x cantabricus (my God what a name ! )
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Rafa, did your little Narcissus fernandesii J. Gomes Pedro var. rivasmartinezii have any scent? Lovely pictures also Luc's.
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Crumbs, what a mouthful! What makes Narcissus fernandesii var. rivasmartinezii different from the normal fernandesii? Size? Number of flowers? I have N. gaditanus but suspect it will never flower for me due to our cool summers?
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The photo was taken by a friend of mine. I know it is a typical error of a Botany amateur, to try and identify a plant from a photo and a situation map, but I first told him that I thought it might be Narcissus calcicola. Afterwards, Gerd told me that as it has not glauca leaves it could possibly be Narcissus gaditanus, which he had the opportunity to see in that area. Finally, my friend sent me a message from J.F. Casas which said that the Narcissus was actually Narcissus fernandesii var. rivasmartinezii, as he precisely knew about this population and had named it as such.
I do not have this study, but I think I will write to J.F. Casas to ask him if he could send me a pdf copy of it.
Regards,
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Thanks, Rafa. For anyone new to narcissus, J.F. Casas is one of the men who has done much work on these plants.
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Many thanks Marggi,
Narcissus fernadessi var. rivasmartinezii and Narcissus assoanus subsp. praelongus is the same specie, but his actual name is this.
Comparing with Narcissus fernandesii, the difference is that it has just one flower, more little and quite scented.
Regards
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Just thought I'd update you on the pot of N. hedreanthus x asturiensis, in case you thought I'd forgotten. Much twiddling of thumbs.
see earlier pic at Reply #8 on: January 02, 2007, 05:02:25 PM , page one of this thread.
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they're moving, Anne !
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The flowers will have to be at least 20cms across to justify all this long wait.
Allium wallichii germinating today Anne. Very quick! I haven't forgotten the Gent. acaulis and its pale form, just taking a terrible time to ripen due to filthy summer but should have them away this coming week.
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Thanks Lesley - goodness, that Allium was quick!
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Here is Narcissus papyraceus [ex Morocco via Fausto Ceni]. This year I have three flowering stems.
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Narcissus still looking good down here. One or two new ones appearing.
Narcissus hedreanthus
The scent in this greenhouse is brilliant!
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Just been out to the greenhouse in the drizzle to take pics of the three narcissi which are adding to my hedraeanthus ache. The first is Narcisus cantabricus from Rafa; the second is hedraeanthus from Anne while the third is my Cotswold plant (note the mouse damage) with Anne's for comparison. While the real 'Julia Jane' may stand up, the real hedraeanthus leans over. Clearly Anne's flower is the real McCoy, but what of the other? Is it cantabricus? It has a much thicker style than Rafa's cantabricus.
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Anthony, super wee N.hedraeanthus. I have managed to kill it twice but have some seedlings coming along, hopefully not more imposters as they came from the exchange.
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Can anyone identify the Narcissus please? It is a native of Spain. Thank you
Wonderful pictures of Narcissus.
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Hello Franz, I'm not sure but it remind me Narcissus graellsii.
Anthony, Narcissus cantabricus looks happy!!
Here, first population in Castilla - León Region of Narcissus cantabricus (aparently, as they have not scent) wich my friend Teo and I discover five years ago. Excuse the bad quality of the pictures.
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Wonderful! They look just like what I have as 'tananicus', or what I have seen referred to as 'tananicus of horticulture'. How wide were the flowers, Rafa?
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Enjoying your narcissus pictures Rafa. It is amazing that some bulb grow in rock columns. In Ronda I meet Narcissus cuatrecasassii it grows in rock columns also. Thanks for the ID of my Narcissus.
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I agree with you Franz - both amazing and beautiful at the same time.
Thanks Rafa ! Great shots.
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Excuse the bad quality of the pictures
says Rafa.... Really? I see no bad pictures! I see only the beauty of these little flowers in their native habitat, they are exquisite.
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Rafa,
Again, many thanks, great photographs and, like others, I find the growing situation of the narcissus amazing.
Paddy
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These little bulbs are what make winter a time to be awaited with pleasure and anticipation, not dread. The cantabricus are especially beautiful and I love the Narcissus soup Tony. Surely that will mean many interesting seedlings to come?
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Many thanks to all,
I hope this week I will take pictures from a huge population in Madrid, with several thousands of N. cantabricus.
Regards
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Oh my goodness, Rafa.. that would be wonderful, I can hardly wait!
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Rafa,
really looking forward to these photographs. Hard to imagine you will post something more interesting than the ones you usually post but this sounds especially one to look forward to.
Paddy
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I too look forward to more of Rafas narcissus adventures. The cantabricus look quite like the form that I grow as 'var laciniatus'. Although most of my plants have a longer narrower corona, I was dividing a potful today to remove a few with more open faces - just like the close-up that Rafa shows. BTW Rafa was the weather as wet as the picture suggests?
On a more bothersome note the plants that I was sorting out today had poorly developed roots, fewer and less vigorous than I would expect. Some bulbs had only 2 or 3 roots :( I suspect that inadequate watering earlier in the winter may be the problem - next years flowering will not be as extravagent as this year :'( Any thoughts on poor rooting and how to avoid it will be welcome.
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Just some pictures, I will write more about in few hours
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More great pictures Rafa, I am interested to see how well some bulbs have increased to form a clump.
One day maybe I will come to Spain and see them for myself, I wish.
Tony, you have your own answer.
Your poor roots are almost certainly caused by a lack of water available when the roots were emerging. They can stand drought for some time at that stage but eventually if the water does not come the root tips die and that is what you have observed.
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Hello,
I have visited this population in Madrid this morning. Unfortunely it's too early and most of them were closed. Other years, climatically not as strange as this year, most of the flowers have bloomed at the same time around mid-march, making the ground look like a genuine white carpet. You can smell them some 200m away.
The vegetation that grows around them includes Thymus mastichina, Rosmarinus officinalis, Juniperus oxycedrus, Quercus ilex... in a very clayish soil.
Its exposure is on the north side, most of the day in the shade, with the sun behind it.
The main threat for this population is the illegal urbanistic development just opposite them (fabela style). The mayor of this village has precisely been trialed this year for urbanistic corruption, typical Spanish disease.
In the picture, this is me on the right taking photos.
Best wishes
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Rafa you are a lucky man - thank you for sharing this beautiful place with us.
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Rafa wrote :"I visited this population this morning"
Sounds like he were visiting some old friends or family members ;D
Wished I had some friends like this in the vicinity to visit ::)
Thanks a lot Rafa - Great show !
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Hola Rafa. Super photos - wish I could be there!
Reminds me of a visit I made in mid February a few years ago to the Sierra de los Filabres where many thousands of Narcissus cantabricus were flowering in among Cistus albidus and large blocks of schist.
Do keep posting.
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Hi Rafa,
Fotografías maravillosas. Grande ver el narciso en su habitat natural.
Muchas gracias, paddy
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The Dunblane show is almost upon us and I usually have a pot full of N cyclaminius. But for some reason these are not coming on this year and those that are, aren't looking good. However, 'Minicycla' looks good.
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my cyclamineous in the garden are doing OK. They are multiplying just fine. One with a fine cut trumpet has increased to six from one in three years
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Excitement mounts! They're about to pop!
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narcissus pic reposted here for Luc Gilgemyn:
Iris cantabricus ssp monophyllus
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Thank you Maggi ! You were too fast for me - didn't even have the time to repost it !
Thanks again :-*
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This single flower - because I only have a single bulb so far - has been flowering outside since Christmas - what a star!!!
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I believe N. 'Cedric Morris' has the longest lasting flowers of the genus. Actually probably the longest lasting of most genera, even beating some orchids. If ever a bulb were worth the purchase price, this is it!
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Only just catching up with my forum watching. Great shots Rafa.
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Yes Maggi and this one came from a good home!!!
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Getaway! Did it really? :-[ I can see it has gone to one! M
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At last! Sorry for the wait folks, here they are - impressive eh? ;D I think they come under 'curiosity value', though they might be OK for a trough. For scale, the label in the pot is about 1cm wide. It's a shame they took their mother's stature, I hoped they would be more upright. The next one I'm waiting for is a cross between a very large N. obesus and N. watieri, so get your imagination working on that one!
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Hurrah! Lovely babies, safely delivered! Not identical twins, I see. Such joy in raising from seed!
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I think it is lovely. I have just tried the reverse cross (hedraeanthus pollen on cyclamineus). Anyone else experience of this one?
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Hmmm, that sounds interesting. I'll bate my breath for 3 or 4 years for that one. How do you bate your breath anyway?
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looks like there may be seeds setting but the most annoying thing is phantom pregnancies
Very nice Ann and perfect for a trough.
I have to stop it but I sneaked home again today. One day my boss will be lying in wait one sunny day. I had to do it and I'm sure you will all agree because it was a cloudless sky and 12C - ohhh the scent I can recall it now - Daphnes, Crocus, Galanthus and Eranthis all wide open
In the garden the trumpets are popping up fast - asturiensis, eysettensis, 'Mitzi', 'Gypsy Queen', yes Ann they are there, 'Navarre, and 'Candlepower'
'Sidora' not as sharp as i would have liked
and asturiensis ex Brian Duncan ex Picos de Europa in Ian Y's bulb house. I have it too so it will save the wait for mine. Maybe Maggi will add the collection area
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Mark, cloudless sky? You should be so lucky-rain here until lunchtime followed by a dry but grey and grizzly two hours followed by heavy drizzle and mist coming down so that I could scarcely see across the road :(
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Mark if by this "looks like there may be seeds setting but the most annoying thing is phantom pregnancies" you mean the promising swelling on the N. Cedric Morris', then a phantom is almost certainly what this is. Our Cedrics have their ovaries swell to hugely impressive size every year and we have never yet had a single seed out of them. And I do mean not a seed, not just, "not a viable seed"... nothing, zilch, nada! We think that it because of this sterility that the flowers last so long, although there is a trigger for the ovary to swell, it is not making seed so there is no trigger to tell the flower that its job is done and so fade the flower.
Anne's 'Sidora' is very sweet, I do agree.
The very petite N. asturiensis ex BD, is from the Picos de Europa. The stem is about 7cm, the spread of the flower, tip to tip about 3cm and the length of the trumpet about 2cms.
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Nice daffs Mark. Still waiting for mine to Pop!!
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John, all my asturiensis in the glass house are now open
Here are a couple more to keep the Narcissus people happy
'Candlepower' - not the best photo
'Mitzi
'Small Fry - standing 13cm 5" but with a big trumper
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Yum! :D
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Great Narcissus everyone - leve the asturiensis in particular.
Here's my small clump of Narcissus asturiensis - growing in the garden and opened up a week ago or so.
It goes back some ten years or so, undisturbed and some are quite a bit higher than their brothers and sisters.
The smaller ones on the left or hardly 3 to 5 cm high - the ones to the right some 10-12 cm.
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They look great, Luc, but I think I would need to guard them against slugs all night if I tried them outside.
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Thanks Ann - they're on a raised bed and so far (touching wood now !) I've never had any noticable slug damage on them. Maybe our continental slugs enjoy a longer winter sleep than yours ;D (even in this "warm" winter)
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Hello everyone, I have been admiring all of these wonderful narcissus species. This is my favourite - cyclamineus in one of my sinks.
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Beautiful, but not so easy to grow. However you seem to have found the knack!
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Thanks Anne. I've had this bulb in a few different places believe it or not but this is the first year it has produced 2 flowers so it is obviously happy. I love it.
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Narcissus (triandrus) pallidulus opened in the greenhouse today. One stem and one slightly twisted leaf (more pics later) on each of two flowering bulbs.
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My bulbocodiums starting to flower again, 4 years later. Hurrah for balconies that the sun actually shines on in the winter!
Chloë
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Here are a couple of narcissi giving me pleasure just now. The first is N. eugeniae, a large flower about 5cm across the petals on a 12 cm stalk.
The second is one of my crosses, triandrus x cyclamineus.
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Very pretty Anne.
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the white one is the best to my eye
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N. eugeniae is a real charmer, Anne but your own babies are stunning, I love them. That Blue Peter moment, of one you made earlier, is hard to beat ,isn't it?
edit after Tony's post: re N. eugeniae the yellow form has wider leaves, does it not? I thought this might be a particular collection of this pale beauty.??
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Anne - is N Eugeniae always so pale? What I have labelled as this is similar in shape but standard yellow. I like yours, it seems almost white, like the pale colour of N alpestris. Like Maggi I admire your hybrids, one day I'll get around to trying to make some crosses ... one day!
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I also love your triandrus x cyclamineus, Anne!
Chloë
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John Blanchard's book gives N eugeniae as 'medium yellow to pale straw, with a much darker yellow trumpet', so it would seem that mine is different. I'll check on the leaves when I brave the rain later on!
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Anne, both of your Narcissi are lovely.
Here are a couple of mine to cheer us on a very dismal day in Blackpool.
N. cyclamineus, possibly my favourite daff.
Narcissus longispathus collected, so the label said from Gazelema Spain and bought at an AGS meeting. I hope that it meant that the seed was collected and not the bulbs but I couldn't find the vendor to check.
It is about 10cm tall at its first flowering for me but perhaps it will be taller in subsequent years as it grows a larger bulb.
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Hello,
Very beautibul species and pics!!
Here, Narcissus bulbocodium
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Rafa - you're so right. Feels like I would be there 8)
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Tomorrow I will search a place where N. bulbocodium graellsii and N. bulbocodium ssp. bulbocodium live together, mabye it could be a natural cross between them..
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Great shots Rafa - nothing compares to a plant in the wild !!!
And I think I saw some blue skies above the plants - so at least somebody is having nice weather. 8)
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Lovely pictures John and Rafa
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Ann, I love your Narcissus triandrus x cyclamineus. I am too lazy to do any delibrate crossings but now seeing that lovely bulb I might plant a few of them together and see what happens.
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Many thanks for your comments.
John I hope too, your Narcissus longispathus is growing form seeds and is not a wild bulb. Eventhough to collect seeds is also prohibed as is an endangered species and is necessary an authorisation.
http://www.mma.es/portal/secciones/biodiversidad/inventarios/inb/flora_vascular/pdf/66.pdf (http://www.mma.es/portal/secciones/biodiversidad/inventarios/inb/flora_vascular/pdf/66.pdf)
Regards
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Rafa, I didn't know that the seed was also protected or I would have made enquiries about who was selling the bulbs. I feel very strongly about conserving plants in the wild. Hopefully I can keep the plants in good condition for the future.
Super pictures of yours. The next best thing to seeing them at first hand.
Also I enjoyed the paintings you showed us a while ago, have you any more?
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Hello,
Dear John, fortunately you and several other expert plant growers have a little "hard copy" from most of our endemic Narcissus. Mabye one day it could be necessary to ask everyone who grow these species to help in conservation projects.
About paintings, I have painted several canvas, but not to this gallery. I want to start botanic plates in watercolour technique.
Best wishes
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I'm definitely going to try some dwarf N. bulbocodium in my lawn. They look fantastic Rafa. 8)
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It's great to see my favourite flowers growing wild, Rafa. Keep on posting!
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Here is a long corona form of bulbocodium from Tony G with nice green markings. In a pot I'm afraid but due to go out in to my wilderness
Rafa great pictures in the wild
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A group from over here are heading to Spain next week to look at wild Narcissus
It great at this time of year because I can get a photo or two taken before work.
This is N. 'Fairy Gold' - back from the dead. Last seen about two years ago
and, arrrr, 'Jim Lad'
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'Jim Lad' is very smart....he was raised by Anne W, wasn't he? Very nice.
Can't say I've seen 'Fairy Gold' in real life.
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very few people have 'Fairy Gold', evil laugh. All stock owned by Keith Lamb, the breeder/finder, have been given to Avon Bulbs where it isnt doing too well as far as I know. They offered it once a few years ago. They have not enough stock to sell
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Hello,
Today, I have pictured this new accepted subsp. It has huge corona and in general size.
It is Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. validus Barra,
subsp. nov. (1-2 pics)
If anyone like description plant I can e-mail you.
After that I have visited Narcissus bulbocodium subsp. graellsii. (3 pic) The weather didn't help me so, excuse the bas quality.
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They look great Rafa !
Thanks
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Rafa,
I have been away for a few days and just now catching up on recent postings. Delighted to see you are still posting narcissus in their native habitats, particularly N. b. graelsii as I have it just about coming into flower for the first time here.
Many thanks for the photos. Paddy
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I have been away for a few days and just now catching up on recent postings.
I thought you had been quiet, most un-Paddy like! ;D
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Two of my 'Fairy Gold' will be twin scaled this year so hopefully they will be sucessful and I'll have some to share
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;D
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Sounds like you plan to do it on a large scale Mark?
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not after my disaster last year. Some of my snowdrops and Narcissus will hopefully be going away for the chop this summer
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Mark, might be a good idea to have my 'illicit' daff propagated in that way if you know someone with the necessary expertise.
By the way nothing has arrived yet.
Rafa, talking of illicit stock I find that I have another Daff from the same source which has just flowered and bears the same collection area ie Grazalema Spain. I must try to find who the culprit is and have words.
This one is Narcissus cordubensis. It has a very strong 'perfume' which I didn't find bad but 'her indoors' made me take it out of the conservatory, where I often take plants in flower to photograph. She was not impressed by the smell!!
Next one is another collected Daff from the exchange but from an impeccable source Margaret & Henry Taylor, Narcissus jacetanus. It is very tiny as you can judge by the 7cm pot.
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Hello,
Fantastic pics!
Very robust plants John, they look happy.
Today I have searched the fields to find out if the Narcissus bulbocodium ssp bulbocodium and ssp. graellsii grow in the same places and finally I found a big population.
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I wish I was there :)
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sorry wrong place
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Ah! the great outdoors. Lovely pics Rafa.