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Bulbs => NARCISSUS => Topic started by: Shauney on March 13, 2017, 08:50:05 PM

Title: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Shauney on March 13, 2017, 08:50:05 PM
I found a small narcissus today ( I think tete a tete ) but the leaves and stems are an acid green. I've not seen daffs this colour before. I've put a leaf from a clump nearby to show the difference in colour. It seems healthy enough but is it due to a nutrient deficiency or is it caused by a virus and needs to be destroyed? Thanks for any help Shaun.
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Matt T on March 13, 2017, 11:38:42 PM
Viruses will usually show up as streaking/blotches etc. in the vegetative parts, rather than a total colour change. Deformed flowers would be another symptom of virus. Your plants don't appear to show any of these symptoms, so I think it could be an effect of environmental conditions, i.e. a nutrient deficiency. See here (https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=772) for advice on chlorosis.
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Shauney on March 14, 2017, 12:40:43 AM
Thanks Matt.

I didn't think it was a virus as I couldn't see anything obvious but I just wanted to make sure there wasn't something other than the regular things going on. I'll put some fertiliser down and see if that helps! Although it is quite nice to see the different colour and it certainly stands out when the sun is shining on it.

Many thanks Shaun.
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Cfred72 on March 14, 2017, 06:14:20 AM
On the other hand, Schaun, if it is not a virus and the color remains yellow even with fertilizer (rich in potash), keep me a small bulb please. I find it very bright and beautiful to look at.  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Shauney on March 14, 2017, 08:27:35 AM
As there is a few more just away from the ones flowering, I will do an experiment and feed just those to see what happens and report back in a month or two.
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Shauney on March 28, 2018, 07:25:06 PM
Hi all.
Last year I started this thread with an acid green leafed narcissus. Well I was allowed to take the 3 small non flowering bulbs shown in pic 2 of the original post. It was suggested that it might be a nutrient deficiency, but I now have them potted in the same soil mix as another narcissus of mine and as you can see they have come up the same as last year although they haven't flowered this year either!
It's lucky that I was allowed to take them as the bulbs that were flowering well did not come up this year so I suspect they may have been victims of the narcissus fly. 😢
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Shauney on April 10, 2018, 06:47:49 PM
Hi, I need help trying to identify this narcissus. I found it growing in a gravel drive when weeding last year! It was just a small single bulb and going over so didn't get to see it in full flower and there were no others around that look anything like it so no idea how it got there! Any help apreciated.
Thanks Shaun.
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Maggi Young on April 10, 2018, 07:00:32 PM
It has a look of the N. triandrus hybrid  'Hawera', Shauney.
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Shauney on April 10, 2018, 08:46:08 PM
Thankyou very much Maggie. I think you might be spot on! I've done a bit of reading about it and it says they're very fragrant, i went to smell mine and could hardly detect anything! Maybe it was because it's been raining and it was getting dark. I will have a smell tomorrow. Hopefully we'll get some sun!
Many thanks Shaun.
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: ashley on March 15, 2019, 09:18:12 AM
A guide to identifying cultivars: the daffodil site (http://www.thedaffodilsite.co.uk/), or at least the more common ones in the UK.

Edit: hyperlink updated (not sure why it changed since my original post ???).  Thanks for alerting me David.
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Shauney on March 19, 2019, 11:43:37 AM
Any ideas what this variety is?
Thanks Shaun
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: David Nicholson on March 19, 2019, 08:38:58 PM
A guide to identifying cultivars: the daffodil site (http://daffkey.co.uk/index.htm)

I don't think Ashley's hyperlink is working? You could try this https://daffseek.org/
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 22, 2019, 05:54:54 AM
Any ideas what this variety is?
Thanks Shaun
Hi Shaun,
It could be ‘Van Sion’ syn ‘Telamonius Plenus’
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Maggi Young on March 22, 2019, 10:33:24 AM

It could be ‘Van Sion’ syn ‘Telamonius Plenus’
cheers
fermi
  Don't both of those have more "untidy"  "exploded"  flowers, fermi?  Shauney's  example seems to  look like a more simple "filled"  daff. ..... ???? :-\
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Shauney on March 22, 2019, 02:14:03 PM
  Don't both of those have more "untidy"  "exploded"  flowers, fermi?  Shauney's  example seems to  look like a more simple "filled"  daff. ..... ???? :-\

I'd have to agree Maggi.
There seems to be quite a variation in the pics online but none that are as neat as mine.

Thanks for the suggestions though Fermi.

Shaun.
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: zephirine on March 22, 2019, 05:32:54 PM
If it doesn't have a name so far, may I suggest 'Pregnant Canary' ?  ;D
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: fermi de Sousa on March 23, 2019, 03:04:27 AM
  Don't both of those have more "untidy"  "exploded"  flowers, fermi?  Shauney's  example seems to  look like a more simple "filled"  daff. ..... ???? :-\
I'd have to agree Maggi.
There seems to be quite a variation in the pics online but none that are as neat as mine.
Some of the pics on Daff.seek are very similar to yours, Shaun.
Being such an old variety there has been plenty of time for the huge variation in forms
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus ident please
Post by: Shauney on March 24, 2019, 12:43:43 AM
Some of the pics on Daff.seek are very similar to yours, Shaun.
Being such an old variety there has been plenty of time for the huge variation in forms
cheers
fermi
Thankyou Fermi for suggesting that site! I'll have a look.
Shaun.
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