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Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: Steve Garvie on January 17, 2016, 12:55:27 AM
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Iris nicolai
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1554/24342844411_53df359bd9_o.jpg)
Iris rosenbachiana "Sogor Lake" -bleached in bright sunlight. In dull light it has a pronounced bluish hue.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1653/24317048702_e71e73f958_o.jpg)
Iris stenophylla ssp. allisonii
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1592/24425319375_d059e9f461_o.jpg)
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Wonderful pictures of great plants. So elegant!
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Iris rosenbachiana? From JJA seeds, opened this morning
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Iris stenophylla, sensu stricta according to Tony Hall.
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Iris rosenbachiana? From JJA seeds, opened this morning
Hi Peter, good to see you around the forum again.
Have you got a JJA number for the Iris so I can add it to the archive pix?
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Thankyou Maggie, and yes, but too dark in the green house to find it tonight. Also had another stenophylla flower from JJA seed, I'll try to post that too.
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Iris fosteriana: Flower just starting to open, I snatched a quick image as I may not have another opportunity before it goes over! :'(
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1605/24146121420_0a33cd27fb_o_d.jpg)
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Fabulous fosteriana, from seeds?
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Thankyou Maggie, and yes, but too dark in the green house to find it tonight. Also had another stenophylla flower from JJA seed, I'll try to post that too.
and a Colchicum, too?
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Hi Steve,
superb pictures of superb Junos,
cheers John.
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Fabulous fosteriana, from seeds?
Thanks Peter!
I have a single fosteriana from seed but this plant was a division kindly given to me by Cyril Lafong. I think he got the plant initially from Norman Stevens (Cambridge Bulbs) some years back.
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Iris fosteriana: Flower just starting to open, I snatched a quick image as I may not have another opportunity before it goes over! :'(
Hmmm, not bad for a snapshot ! ;D
Tremendous plant and picture, Steve !
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I am getting better at growing Junos (and Oncos), but I have along way to go to match the quality of the photos from Steve. They are truly magnificent. :P
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Hello!
here are my first junos from seeds on their way...
www.facebook.com/peppestradgard/posts/197260977291299 (http://www.facebook.com/peppestradgard/posts/197260977291299)
I assume they need some year before flowering.
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I am thrilled to see the photos of Iris stenophyla ssp. allisonii as I still have 2 (of the 4 which germinated) of this plant, seed from Michael Kammelander sent to Otto F in Australia and generously shared with me. The 4 germinated in 2013, 4 came up in 2014 but only 2 in the spring of 2015. Both are now under the pot surface but still there and quite large. I'll die happy if I can get them to flower eventually. :)
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Iris fosteriana -One week later than the previous image and not looking too bad.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1467/24506451971_3d1d38c2fa_o.jpg)
Iris rudolphii: A recently described species from Uzbekistan ( http://www.zobodat.at/pdf/STAPFIA_0099_0205-0207.pdf (http://www.zobodat.at/pdf/STAPFIA_0099_0205-0207.pdf) )
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1592/24220964389_6bfbe32451_c.jpg)
Iris nicolai
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1619/24480406232_a97f045973_c.jpg)
Iris rosenbachiana: "Sogor Lake". This form always looks its best just before dusk when the blues are most saturated.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1671/23961913393_6aec3485a3_c.jpg)
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Iris leptorhiza grown from Jan Jilik's seeds, Iris narbuti - a bulb which I bought in 2011 (I think), and Iris persica, all of which flowered here around Christmas day.
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Steve , as always the most superb images of Junos and Reticulatas - no one on the Forum beats your quality . Excited to see the photo of I. rudolphii . I knew of it as a newly described species ( from Jan Jelik ) but had not seen a photo of it . It looks close to I. narbutii !
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Steve , as always the most superb images of Junos and Reticulatas - no one on the Forum beats your quality . Excited to see the photo of I. rudolphii . I knew of it as a newly described species ( from Jan Jelik ) but had not seen a photo of it . It looks close to I. narbutii !
Many thanks Otto.
Whilst my "Iris rudolphii" seems to match the description and image in this paper describing I. rudolphii as a new species ( http://www.zobodat.at/pdf/STAPFIA_0099_0205-0207.pdf (http://www.zobodat.at/pdf/STAPFIA_0099_0205-0207.pdf) ), I also struggle to see the difference between this and I. narbutii.
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Hello Steve,
may I ask you, please, where did you Iris rudolphii get from? A friend of mine is searching for it.
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Hello Steve,
may I ask you, please, where did you Iris rudolphii get from? A friend of mine is searching for it.
Hi Eveline,
My plant came from Jan Jilek.
See: http://www.wildbulbs.eu/cypripedium/catbul.php (http://www.wildbulbs.eu/cypripedium/catbul.php)
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Thank you, Steve. I know this interesting bulb list and some time ago I tried to get in contact with Mr. Jilek. Unfortunately he did not answer. I will try it once more. He seems to be the only seller of this lovely Iris.
Steve, thank you for your wonderful photos.
Does anyone grow Iris hoelleri?
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Thank you, Steve. I know this interesting bulb list and some time ago I tried to get in contact with Mr. Jilek. Unfortunately he did not answer. I will try it once more. He seems to be the only seller of this lovely Iris.
Steve, thank you for your wonderful photos.
Does anyone grow Iris hoelleri?
Thanks Eveline.
Here is an image of my Iris hoelleri from last year (it flowered in mid-March):
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7616/16967757365_b0411d2408_o.jpg)
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A breathtaking photo! Bulb from Jan Jilek too, I suppose.
Wonderful, thank you.
I really do hope that Mr. Jilek will answer me.
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Jan is back and forward between Europe & Central Asia.
I have heard that unfortunately he may be unwell at present though I cannot verify this.
I owe him money for an order I received in 2015 (in two installments in April & September).
I have sent a number of emails offering payment but have not received a reply. I am desperate to make payment as he is a very useful source of some stunning Central Asian bulbs. ;)
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Thank you for the information, seems I have to await until some hopefully good news will arrive.
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Hello Steve,
I love the photos of the iris that you post you must have a really wonderful collection.do you have any tips on growing from seed.
Do you soak your seed prior to sowing and what sort of mix do you use. I hope you don't mind me asking as I have quite a lot of species Iris seed to sow as soon as Autumn arrives here in a month or so. Cheers John.
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Hi John,
Thanks for your kind words. The truth is I'm not a very competent grower and still have a lot to learn.
Most of my Juno Iris were bought as dormant bulbs but I do have a few from seed.
Unless obtained fresh, Juno seed is somewhat unpredictable and erratic in germination. I Have tried soaking seeds in hydrogen peroxide (-a 24hr bath in 3% (10 vols) peroxide for 12-24 hrs) with some success. It may be that different strengths (or duration in the bath) might yield better results.
My Junos are all grown in coarse sand-plunged long tom clay pots. The potting mix is primarily based on coarse sand with added grit and pumice. I have had better results since dropping loam from the mix but I always add powdered dolomitic lime with a pinch of bonemeal in the base of the pot. The bulbs are placed such that their roots sit in this mix but the bulb baseplate is slightly higher with the gap then filled by washed coarse grit which is also used to cover the bulbs extending to just below the top rim of the pot. The pot is plunged but not too deeply as I like the pots to dry out quickly once watering ceases in late Spring.
Perhaps it's just my imagination but I suspect that the powdered dolomite seems to encourage the potting mix to "set" when it dries out at the end of the growing season -almost like a cement mix; this seems to prevent excessive dessication of the bulb/roots and discourages rot.
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Hello Steve,
I love the photos of the iris that you post you must have a really wonderful collection.do you have any tips on growing from seed.
Do you soak your seed prior to sowing and what sort of mix do you use. I hope you don't mind me asking as I have quite a lot of species Iris seed to sow as soon as Autumn arrives here in a month or so. Cheers John.
I think that Iris seed is best sown at the end of summer, before winter starts.
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Hi Steve and Peter,
thanks for the information Steve, and Peter I will be sowing my Iris seed in the first week of Autumn which here in Australia is in about five weeks time.
Cheers John.
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Iris svetlanae this morning. They were grown as maracandica but Tony Hall has told me they are more like svetlanae.
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Two junos from the rosenbachiana group, in my green house this morning. I find it hard to remember which is which species....
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Hi Peter,
absolutely beautiful Junos, hoping one day to be able to grow them here in Tasmania,
Cheers John.
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Iris aucheri in bud.
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More Iris nicolai in flower:
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1548/24105775623_cf77d5e4c4_o.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1638/24364948139_b83241200a_o.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1627/24732624705_719c93032c_b.jpg)
A form of Iris bucharica from Afghanistan.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1708/24437344390_a6a3141820_o.jpg)
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Very nice, the bucharica/vicaria is very early though!
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A lot of things are early this year Peter with the mild winter we are having so far. I have a pot of I. bucharica outside which are already showing through the compost and in the greenhouse I. magnifica is well up and will flower soon.
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Juno are also blooming here, under protection of course :-)
Iris caucasica (or I. atropatana ?)
Iris stenophylla
Iris persica
Iris aucheri (from Syria, pale form)
Iris nicolai
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and few more ..
Iris svetlanae
Iris planifolia which is over now
Iris palaestina
Iris edomensis
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Fred , a great joy to see your beautiful images of your expertly grown and flowered Junos - first choice has to be the exotic queen : I. edomensis.
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Thank you Otto, I. edomensis is also my favourite one, but also the most difficult to grow here :'(
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A delight to see these plants looking so very healthy, Fred.
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Some magnificent plants shown on this thread. Here is my humble offering I rosenbachiana
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Some magnificent plants shown on this thread. Here is my humble offering I rosenbachiana
I agree very much Ian! However, your lovely pink flushed Iris, I'm. Not sure if it is rosenbachiana or something else related
Some more junos in flower here... Two forms of what I believe to be Iris popovii, and a form of ? Iris nicholai from JJA seeds.
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I agree very much Ian! However, your lovely pink flushed Iris, I'm. Not sure if it is rosenbachiana or something else related
Some more junos in flower here... Two forms of what I believe to be Iris popovii, and a form of ? Iris nicholai from JJA seeds.
Peter I'm afraid it was a senior money it should be Nicolai
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Iris persica BATMAN 058, from a friend last year.
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Beautiful, dark and delicate at once
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Thank you Fred. My friend told me it flowers regularly with him rather than split into numerous smaller non-flowering bulbs as some I. persica clones do.
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Juno Iris, morning sky
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More Junos
Iris stenophylla ssp.allisonii:
(http://up.picr.de/24679309cw.jpg)
Iris nicolai:
(http://up.picr.de/24679349vk.jpg)
Iris rosenbachiana 'Harangon':
(http://up.picr.de/24679389kc.jpg)
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Some fine plants flowering with you now, Ebbie.
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Hi Ebbie,
I absolutely love your Junos Iris did you grow them from seed.
Regards John.
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Gentlemen, Thank you all so very much for showing and sharing these amazing pictures of such glorious flowers. I love these irises more than any others even though the smaller and rarer ones are not available to us in New Zealand. If I go to my grave with these pictures in my mind I shall die happy.
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I'm rather hoping I can post a picture here of a Juno from way back in 2005 because it is unlike anything I have seen elsewhere. Tony Hall thinks it is a hybrid, perhaps with a form of orchioides. I can't see it myself but then, I'm no expert as Tony undoubtedly is. What it is NOT, is kuschakewiczii, the seed I had ordered (from Pilous as I remember) and grew it under that name until it flowered. Over the next 4 years It grew on nicely and set seed three times then almost over night, or over one season, the whole lot died and it was gone forever.
I say hoping to post the picture because I've to retrieve it from Picasa 3 and I'm not sure how to do that yet. Here goes. :-\
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Bother, the right plant but not the right picture which had truer colour, a lovely lime green and showed the flower shape better. Then I was going to attach another showing the slender tube and that there was no stem as such. I have a lot to learn about the programmes on this new laptop!
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Maybe I've cracked it this time?
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Back from Jordan looking for Iris postii in the desert
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Looks like you found it, Fred!
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John, I've never growed Junos from seed. I think that is a lengthy process.
Lesley, maybe Iris caucasica?
Fred, a fantastic Juno!
Two Junos here:
Iris rosenbachiana 'Tovil Dara'
(http://up.picr.de/24772576aq.jpg)
Iris galatica, with similar color but shorter
(http://up.picr.de/24772586ic.jpg)
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A couple of forms of Iris wilmottiana in flower here.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1487/24822181243_6c9bb5b9bf_o_d.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1496/25448893495_6e294c945a_o_d.jpg)
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John, growing Junos from seed is not so difficult, at least with what one might think of as "beginners' species." I don't mean this in any disrespectful or arrogant way, but there is no doubt that some species are much easier to grow than others. From my own experience over perhaps 25 years with Junos, I would suggest trying II. bucharica, magnifica and its white form, vicaria, willmottiana and cycloglossa first, and these are quite easy from seed. If the seed is of good quality (i.e. viable; plump and hard, mid brown tones and reasonably fresh), it's pretty certain it will germinate within 6 months, the time depending on whether it originates in the northern or southern hemisphere, and to which hemisphere it is going. From germination, keep it growing on as long as possible in that first season and from there on it will come up and die down according to the local seasons.It is important that the young bulbs are not let be wet or badly drained but also that they are not "baked," rather, just rested dry until the first autumn rains start the roots into growth again.
Certainly the bulbs may take up to 5 years to bloom but if treated well may take only 4 (magnifica for instances regularly takes just 4 years to flower and if I in my seventies am not fazed by this, you, much younger can take it in your stride) and after those first years, there is always something coming along to enchant us.
For us in the Southern Hemisphere, the biggest problem may be sourcing either bulbs or seed. I was lucky enough to get 4 Junos from the SRGC seed list recently and other lists provide some options too. As well you might like to think about joining the American Iris Soc, the Australian Iris Soc or our own here in NZ which listed several Junos last June and hopefully will again this coming June.
Don't let any perceived difficulty of sourcing or of cultivation put you off trying these lovely things because any challenge they may present is amply rewarded when you see at last the first beautiful and elegant flowers. You will know that any effort you have made has been well worth it.
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Photographed in my bulb house yesterday
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Loverly juno's Arthur.
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Some lovely Junos Arthur!
This one is a fairly recently described species from Uzbekistan:
Iris victoris
Edit: The image below is probably Iris orchioides, true victoris is a totally different plant.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1484/25614620152_a96bb7e23a_o.jpg)
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Here is iris magnafica Aman Kutan flowering for the first time with me in the greenhouse, I bought it last year from Janis. Great looking iris.
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John,
Magnifica Alba is a lovely thing and if you want to try it outside, it grows easily in the garden in a sunny well drained spot.
Mine went from a single to about twelve stems over the course of a few years,
David
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Hi David thanks for the information on the hardiness of this plant, I am a complete novice when it comes to juno's and I didn't want to loose it. Would it be ok in a pot while I try to increase it, then try it in the garden?
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John,
if you have a sunny well drained spot it will almost certainly increase more quickly in the garden
than in a pot.
David
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Ok David thanks
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A fairly recently described wee plant from the Pamir-Alai in Uzbekistan:
Iris khassanovii
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1626/25811110875_883038de1c_o.jpg)
One of the most beautiful of the Junos:
Iris warleyensis
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1709/25690145322_97eb081a53_o.jpg)
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A fairly recently described wee plant from the Pamir-Alai in Uzbekistan:
Iris khassanovii
Quote from:
Taxonomic corrections and new records in vascular plants of Kyrgyzstan, 3
Article · December 2014 · Memoranda - Societatis pro Fauna et Flora Fennica
Georgy Lazkov, Alexander Sennikov, G. A. Koichubekova, A. N. Naumenko
"This recently described species (Tojibaev & Turginov 2014) differs from Iris linifolia (Regel) O. Fedtsch. in its flower colour: standards whitish with violet veins (vs. yellowish in I. linifolia ), falls whitish with violet veins and a yellow spot along the crest (vs. whitish with a bright-yellow spot), and styles with a violet tint (vs. yellowish). Among the species occurring in Kyrgyzstan, I. khassanovii is also closely related to I. narynensis O. Fedtsch. (Ikinci et al. 2011), the latter being clearly different in the dark blotch on the blade of the falls (Hall 2007). Iris khassanovii was described from Hissar Range in Uzbekistan, in about 200 km from the south-western border of Kyrgyzstan. Its brief protologue does not state a distribution area; from the discussions and the type locality we deduct that the species was known to the authors from Hissar Range only, both from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. In the last 50 years, plants identical to the just-described I. khassanovii have been repeatedly collected from a forested area ( Juniperus forest) on Turkestan Range immediately south of the Töö-Jayloo pasture area (Fig. 7). One of the present authors (G. L.) collected the species in that locality and observed the flower colour in the living state. The plants from Kyrgyzstan seem to be nearly identical to those from Hissar Range, and we so report this as an extension of the species’ distribution."
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Iris willmottiana
(http://up.picr.de/24900603rn.jpg)
Iris tubergeniana
(http://up.picr.de/24900602df.jpg)
Iris svetlanae
(http://up.picr.de/24900601ly.jpg)
Iris albomarginata
(http://up.picr.de/24900599jc.jpg)
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Lots flowering for you, Ebbie.
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Lot's of nice specimens shown here.
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You grow them well Ebbie.
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Some of my Juno's
Blue Ruffles one of Alan McM.s hybrids
Blue Warlsind
Coll Elegance another one of Alan's
John B
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And more.
A clump of magnifica
Top Gold
vicaria "Hodji-Obi-Gaum
John B
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2 warleyensis
John B
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I think you are hopelessly hooked on Junos too John. :) Beautiful plants, beautifully grown. Have you had a sniff at all of these? Many years ago when I grew a much less blue form of x Warlsind, I found the flowers were strongly scented, much like a good bunch of violets.
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Juno caucasica from Georgia
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More Junos
Iris warleyensis
(http://up.picr.de/25058817nt.jpg)
Iris nusairiensis
(http://up.picr.de/25058818pz.jpg)
Iris pseudocapnoides
(http://up.picr.de/25058815bk.jpg)
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Wonderful Irises and images Ebbie!!!
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I am pleased to hear this by you, Steve.
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Junos start the iris season
1. Iris vicaria
2. Iris Russian Kavalerguard
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Some irises...I don't know what happens in the resizing but the photographs end up on their sides when they are presented in the forum, sorry.
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Hi Frazier when you select the photos they all bar the last appear the right way up. If you drop Maggi a message and ask her nicely im sure she'll sort it out for you.
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Frazer - this is an odd thing which happens depending on how the images were first saved. Now all will enlarge the right way up, I believe!
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Can anyone suggest a name for the last of Frazer's images, the white one? Not a juno but what? I can't think of anything it resembles.
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Can anyone suggest a name for the last of Frazer's images, the white one? Not a juno but what? I can't think of anything it resembles.
Possibly a spuria like Iris halophila, perhaps?
cheers
fermi
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Oh yes fermi, that's likely. I had it once....... ???