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Title: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: ArnoldT on January 01, 2016, 06:05:27 PM
First of the year.  Our mild weather is shortening the life of flowers.

Narcissus cantabricus Peppermint

and a mixed hybrid
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Yann on January 01, 2016, 08:27:52 PM
Narcissus albidus ssp occidentalis SF 16
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: ruben on January 03, 2016, 12:26:36 PM
Narcissus 'Galathoquilla group' :Not a snowdrop but a Narcissus with a snowdrop name :-d
The first flowering trumpet Narcissus in my garden (the name cause it flower together with the snowdrops). A cross between N. lagoi x N. jonquil (an early small form or N. assoanus) .

Narcissus romieuxii ssp. albidus var zaianidus SBL 82
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: YT on January 04, 2016, 09:00:23 AM
Happy New Year!

Narcissus ‘Shiraume’ :)

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Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on January 04, 2016, 10:58:43 AM
Narcissus 'Galathoquilla group' :Not a snowdrop but a Narcissus with a snowdrop name :-d
The first flowering trumpet Narcissus in my garden (the name cause it flower together with the snowdrops). A cross between N. lagoi x N. jonquil (an early small form or N. assoanus) .

Is that name a joke Ruben or did you buy it with the name attached, I haven't seen a mention of it anywhere?
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Matt T on January 04, 2016, 11:03:47 AM
It's one of Brian Duncan's hybrids, David. Anne W listed for the first time last year. I have one just breaking bud now. The name (Galantoquilla Group) is genuine and registered, you can find it on: Daffseek (http://daffseek.org/detail-page/?cultivar=Galantoquilla%20Group&auto=1)
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: YT on January 04, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
Narcissus 'Galathoquilla group' :Not a snowdrop but a Narcissus with a snowdrop name :-d
That's an interesting hybrid, Ruben :) Does it smell?
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on January 04, 2016, 11:10:26 AM
Thanks Matt found it with the correct spelling (Galantoquilla).
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 04, 2016, 03:42:27 PM
Oh, Tatsuo, I LIKE that one!
I have a Galantoquilla out as well, very cute and demure.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Matt T on January 04, 2016, 05:21:28 PM
"Shiraume" is just like a little primrose!
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: YT on January 05, 2016, 10:57:56 AM
Oh, Tatsuo, I LIKE that one!
Thanks, Anne. Fortunately, it's a vigorous and good increaser ;)

"Shiraume" is just like a little primrose!
Yes, Matt... or it looks like a miniature hymenocallis for its 6 lobed corona.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 05, 2016, 08:37:17 PM
 ;) ;) ;) :-*
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Post by: Cyril L on January 06, 2016, 09:23:03 PM
Narcissus ‘Shiraume’ :)
Tatsuo, this is a very appealing and unique narcissus.

Narcissus romieuxii 'Hat' has been flowering for over 2 weeks and still looks fresh.  This is a lovely selection from the late Kath Dryden, "a distinct form with typical particularly large scalloped flowers and flared skirt" and easy to grow.  The photograph does not do it justice.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: YT on January 08, 2016, 07:13:55 AM
Thanks, Cyril. I'm multipling them ;)
Your 'Hat' is lovely, too!
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: YT on January 08, 2016, 07:29:29 AM
Two seedlings are flowering :)

Narcissus romieuxii ‘Treble Chance’ x self
Narcissus cantabricus var. monophyllus SBL545 x SF389
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 08, 2016, 07:40:24 PM
VERY nice Tatsuo.
This is one of my greenhouses just now, must be doing wonders for the humidity levels!
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 08, 2016, 07:43:11 PM
Lots of hoops out just now - most are seedlings from N. cantabricus x N. romieuxii albidus SF110
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Post by: annew on January 08, 2016, 07:43:53 PM
Some N. cantabricus seedlings
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 08, 2016, 07:45:01 PM
Narcissus cantabricus laciniatus, a favourite, and Treble Chance (a Bob Potterton selection and the parent of Tatsuo's hybrid above)
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: fermi de Sousa on January 09, 2016, 02:01:05 AM
Hi Anne,
Did you get one of your small-handed minions to hold those flowers? Because they make the blooms look HUGE! :o
 ;D
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 09, 2016, 09:54:59 AM
How did you guess? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: YT on January 09, 2016, 11:13:56 AM
VERY nice Tatsuo.
This is one of my greenhouses just now, must be doing wonders for the humidity levels!
Hello Anne. When did you see the sun last? Hoping your place is getting dryer soon.
Your large flowered hybrids, flat corona cantabricus and pinked edges etc... are all fascinating :o :D :)
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on January 09, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
Narcissus 'Galathoquilla group' :Not a snowdrop but a Narcissus with a snowdrop name :-d
The first flowering trumpet Narcissus in my garden (the name cause it flower together with the snowdrops). A cross between N. lagoi x N. jonquil (an early small form or N. assoanus) .


Some comments on this plant from Facebook:


Brian Duncan added 3 new photos .... and commented :

Tongue-in-cheek I've called these little daffodils 'Galantoquilla Group' or my Snowdrop daffodils. They usually flower about mid-snowdrop season (this year they've beaten most of my snowdrops to it as the first buds have opened. They are about the size and height of snowdrops, they usually show a prominent upright spathe, they have a drooping pose and vertical stems. Bred from N. lagoi x N. jonquil (an early small form or N. assoanus) .
They make a nice start to the daffodils season before Christmas and I can't wait for them to clump up.

Rafa Díez Domínguez  asked:
 N. asturiensis x N. jonquilla?


Brian Duncan:   N. lagoi x N. jonquilla (small early form) or N. assoanus. The jonquilla was given to me by a friend in America and the identification is not certain. I have no doubt that n. lagoi is closely related to N. asturiensis but it is   slightly larger and it grows with an upright stem unlike many N. asturiensis - it also usually has a vertical spathe and a drooping pose - all of which make it ideal for using in crosses. Ben zonneveld checked chromosames and made it 47.4 against two clones of N. asturiensis at 22..9 and 23.9. .he said my N. lagoi = N. vilarvidensis.
But the flowers at Vilar vidas are much llarger - unless I missed the true N. vilarvidensis.


Harold Koopowitz:  I don't see any jonquilla in that. Maybe it is pure N. lagoi. If you pollinate will it set seed?

Rafa Díez Domínguez:  yes, N. lagoi is not valid name, like var. villarvildensis they are just tetraploid N. asturiensis. It puzzle me those hybrids that not show any character from its mother jonquillae

 Once I also saw this, between N. jonquilla (mother) and a unidentified big subsp. of bulbocodium which their hybrid hasn't any character in the flower from jonquilla, but the rest of the plant were like jonquilla. This hybrid grew isolated into the river, into the jonquilla clump, between its bulbs.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on January 09, 2016, 08:28:31 PM
Moving some  stuff  to the Moan thread - doesn't go with  pretty daffs!

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13913.0 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=13913.0)
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on January 13, 2016, 01:36:01 PM
This really is a dainty little thing: Narcissus 'Galantoquilla Group' from Anne Wright.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 13, 2016, 06:03:23 PM
Brian imagined drifts of it with snowdrops.. :)
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on January 13, 2016, 06:35:42 PM
That would be a glorious combination.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on January 13, 2016, 06:51:44 PM
Brian imagined drifts of it with snowdrops.. :)
In time, no doubt!
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 14, 2016, 02:17:42 PM
It would take a while!
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Yann on January 16, 2016, 03:02:24 PM
Narcissus cantabricus J.W. Blanchard 8820
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on January 16, 2016, 03:44:41 PM
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Narcissus cantabricus J.W. Blanchard 8820

Whiter than white!
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: LucS on January 16, 2016, 06:51:26 PM
The first narcissus asturiensis flower in the rockgarden.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 16, 2016, 08:41:28 PM
Great to see these, Yann and Luc.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: YT on January 17, 2016, 08:58:04 AM
Narcissus bulbocodium var. conspicuus
Narcissus ‘Don Stead’ from Aberdeen :)
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 19, 2016, 04:11:25 PM
I don't think Don Stead was never that compact in Aberdeen, or Yorkshire!
Two small trumpets, just about the earliest with me.
The first is from Bowles Early Sulphur crossed with a seedling from Candlepower x cyclamineus
The next is from N. cyclamineus x Gipsy Queen. The labels are standard 4" ones for scale.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on January 19, 2016, 04:36:00 PM
I think you're right there, Anne - 'Don Stead' tends to be a pretty neat grower but, as usual, Tatsuo has us beaten!
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: ArnoldT on January 19, 2016, 04:39:49 PM
Narcissus romieuxii var. mesatlanticus[attach=1]
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 19, 2016, 06:14:39 PM
I think you're right there, Anne - 'Don Stead' tends to be a pretty neat grower but, as usual, Tatsuo has us beaten!
It looks fabulous, doesn't it!
A nice flower, Arnold  :)
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: ArnoldT on January 19, 2016, 09:01:27 PM
Thanks Anne.

I'm not sure this is the correct name.  Some of the N. romieuxii var. mesatlanticus images I've seen show the flower as being much more white than yellow.

Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 19, 2016, 09:48:19 PM
Mine were all yellow.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Ian Y on January 20, 2016, 11:30:52 AM
Here is what we grow as Narcissus romieuxii mesatlanticus - not pure white but not yellow either.
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Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Matt T on January 20, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
I have mesatlanticus from 2 or three sources, and they all open perhaps a shade lighter than Arnold's and end up fading to the same colour as Ian's.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: ArnoldT on January 21, 2016, 01:10:37 AM
Thanks everyone.

Mine came from a reliable source. 

Nancy Wilson in California.  A Narcissus grower fro many years.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on January 24, 2016, 10:47:51 AM
Narcissus Hispanicus, bought from Anne back end of last year in flower now.

Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 25, 2016, 05:11:39 PM
That's early!
Some flowering now here, sister seedlings.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 25, 2016, 05:12:20 PM
A seedling from the very large hoop, 'Mondieu'.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: johnstephen29 on January 25, 2016, 05:37:43 PM
Hi Anne I've been moly coddling it in the greenhouse, I wonder if the heat from my heater spurred it on? I really like the Mondieu hoop.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Yann on January 25, 2016, 06:42:02 PM
Anne, i'll say in my mother tongue : Oh mon dieu! Lovely
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 25, 2016, 06:53:16 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on January 28, 2016, 02:43:46 PM

The narcissus blooming right now at home, in the greenhouse or in the garden
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Narcissus cyclamineus 'Tête à Tête'
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Narcissus Cantabricus
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Seeds receptacle Narcissus cantabricus
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Narcissus Erlicheer
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Narcissus romieuxii ssp. romieuxii 'Julia Jane'
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on January 28, 2016, 02:47:18 PM
I hope I get seeds Narcissus viridiflora
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Receptacle seed Narcissus viridiflora
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on January 28, 2016, 05:10:33 PM
There is some  mould beginning on the old flower, cFred - I would carefully remove it to stop the pod being infected.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on January 28, 2016, 05:38:08 PM
Can I cut flush with the pod?
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on January 28, 2016, 05:45:02 PM
Can I cut flush with the pod?
Not  completely flush - leave about  5mm in front of the pod.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: annew on January 28, 2016, 09:22:02 PM
I hope I get seeds Narcissus viridiflora
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Receptacle seed Narcissus viridiflora
It looks like you might!
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on January 29, 2016, 09:09:22 AM
It would be nice ...
I'll have another flowering Narcissus viridiflora (say 'viridiflora' or 'viridiflorus?). There appears to be strong offset from the time it is supposed to bloom.
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The mold is cut with colorette.
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Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on January 29, 2016, 11:55:33 AM
Yes, Narcissus viridiflorus  :)

Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 01, 2016, 04:28:25 AM
Narcissus viridiflorus flowers well and produces many offsets for me. Started with 2 in 2011, gave half a dozen away last year, and still have over a dozen left! Only ever got one seed!
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Philip Walker on February 01, 2016, 01:02:10 PM
N 'February Gold'
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: David Nicholson on February 01, 2016, 01:55:19 PM
Nice Philip. My clump has been flattened by the gales.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 01, 2016, 06:11:12 PM
Narcissus viridiflorus flowers well and produces many offsets for me. Started with 2 in 2011, gave half a dozen away last year, and still have over a dozen left! Only ever got one seed!

J'ai fait une auto-fécondation avec le pinceau de peintre.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 01, 2016, 06:14:04 PM
Ian has almost more paint brushes for pollinating   flowers than he does for painting! Useful things!
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 01, 2016, 06:20:17 PM
 :D :D Moi ils servent pour les deux usages  ;D
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 02, 2016, 08:31:27 AM
J'ai fait une auto-fécondation avec le pinceau de peintre.
That's easy for you to say.  ;D
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 02, 2016, 09:00:13 AM
Oui, ce n'est pas encore gagné, il faut que la gousse de graines soit fertile, qu'il n'y ai pas d'accident et que la graine soit bien semée aussi.
Bref, je m'avance un peu vite ...  ::)
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Maggi Young on February 02, 2016, 10:55:02 AM
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I did a self-fertilization with the paintbrush.

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That's easy for you to say. ; D

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Yes, it is not yet won, it is necessary that the seed pod is fertile, there was no accident and that the seed is sown as well.
In short, I walk a little faster ...

Of course, success is never a sure thing - but always a good idea to try.  :)
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 28, 2016, 04:42:54 AM
J'ai fait une auto-fécondation avec le pinceau de peintre.
Tried paint brushes and cocktail sticks, but no joy. I have more clones now, so will try again.
Title: Re: Narcissus January 2016
Post by: Cfred72 on February 28, 2016, 10:27:52 AM

The pod is dead, remains the second with three flowers now.
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