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Bulbs => NARCISSUS => Topic started by: fermi de Sousa on September 01, 2015, 09:58:13 AM
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Here are some more of our daffs as the season really warms up!
Narcissus Trevithian 7YY
Narcissus (maybe) Bezzababe (label missing!)
Narcissus KB-M-23-02 x1
Narcissus KB-M-23-02 x1
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fermi
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One of Rod's "little breeders", 'Decoy' x 'Swagger' (2 pics)
One of Lawrence's N.fernandesii.ssp cordubensis x N. fern.ssp.cordubensis seedlings
'Taztep'
'Matador'
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fermi
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Delightful!
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Some photos of some miniatures firstl
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A few split cups and a good 2Y-O seedling.
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A couple of doubles and a few other photos.
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A couple of photos showing that our large daffodils are now flowering. About 50% are now in flower.
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N atlanticus is super. I haven't come across that name before but love the daff. :)
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Here are two in the garden today, not long before yet more snow started, and the temperature getting quickly colder and colder as I took these and a few other pictures. When will this horrid winter end?
The first is a seedling of a seedling of N. cyclamineus. For the moment I'm just calling it "Star," until I think of something better. Flowers have from 6 to 9 outer petals. It was the same last year, this the second flowering. I had to lay the camera on the ground as I couldn't get low enough to get under and look up.
The second is a tubby little trumpet, very wide and fat-looking, and also with 9 petals, same as last year. I think it is delightful, so fat but very short (90 mm pot to compare).
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Hi Graham,
I entered a few daffs in the Kyneton Spring Flower Show and won firsts with a couple I got from you
Jocelyn Newman
Narc KB-M-64-91-1-S (triandrus hybrid)
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fermi
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Congrats, Fermi!
Lesley, both your seedlings are very nice but I especially like 'Star'. Very elegant. The tubby one looks like it will stand up well to the cold weather you have on the way.
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Congratulations. Jocelyn Newman is a very good early show flower. It occasionally has 3 florets but 2 is more often than not. It has done very well around the world. The other thing about it is that it is fertile. Our triandus hybrids also are relatively early so they have also had great success. The pollen for that cross came from Rod Barwick who brought a lot of NTT to a Canberra Show. The only thing we had out was N. cordubensis as it then was.
Our flowers were also successful at the Claremont Show in Tasmania yesterday. Champion Jonquilla hybrid-we are known for our miniatures but not so much for larger flowers.
Lesley, N. atlanticus is a species from the high Atlas mountains. It is very desirable for hybridising and you will see that Anne Wright has used it a lot. How many petals does the tubby one have - looks to have more than 6.
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Lots of daffodils flowering now. I will post better photos of our miniature 7W-P and N. atlanticus.
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Some photos for Lesley.
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A few more photos. The intermediates are just the right size for pots and garden borders.
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The little short and fat one I posted above came as seed from AGS I think, as N. cordubensis but I knew that wasn't right. ??? It has 9 petals Graham and did last year too so appears to be consistent.
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The little short and fat one........
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Lesley's Star is very nice - quietly elegant, like Lesley, I'm sure.
Graham, your pot full of 1W-W is very cute!
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Here is another starry one which came up in a pot of Lilium seedlings. Just the 6 petals here. The lilies came up as well fortunately. :)
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Leslie those narcissus are fabulous especially star,
Mini daffs not sure were you are but love your narcissus and I LOVE mini's
lovely to see your great narcissus also Fermi
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We have lots of starry miniatures but they are not regarded as exhibition quality so I don't take photos of them. I just keep them for breeding.
Melager we grow our daffodils in Canberra. We have lots of miniatures and intermediates. We have large daffodils as well but tend to use them for breeding with our miniatures.
I will start with some species.
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Some new and fancy miniatures.
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More miniatures.
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Some intermediates, including some that are only just too big for miniature.
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More intermediates.
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Some more photos.
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Even more photos. A good few splits and doubles for you Lesley.
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Some stunners there Graham. I love your apodanthe hybrids, the one with the greenish tinge and your exhibition form of N. watieri. Super plants. Afraid I'm with Lesley on the splits though. ;)
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Last for the evening.
Matt, good splits are amazing but bad ones are usually only for the garden but it is the same for most daffodils.
We have quite a few very good apodanthe hybrids. I have done some today and will do more over the coming week. We have so many we actually get open pollinated apodanthe.
The little miniature tazetta is quite a flower. Suspect it came from GBF.
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I should have added that the miniature Div 7's are probably the breeding highlights. The pink is very good and the one with the greenish tinge is something special.
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A few photos for Lesley. Lesley you will notice that in one of the photos the flower is not only split but missing some perianth segments as well!
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Some miniatures, an intermediate and a species.
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Some standards.
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The last for the night.
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Graham, I love you (and your minis) dearly, but PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't split the corona of N. watieri :o :o :o
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Lesley, I have some N. watieri that are most of the way there already and I have been using it for the last couple of years so at some stage there will be little splits with N. watieri as one of the parents.
I have also been working with the naturally split N cordubensis.
It is all a matter of time and some small split cups which we already have as our pollen source.
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Lesley some photos from the Daffodil Show in Canberra. Lawrence Trevanion decided not to go to Leongatha and exhibited here in Canberra. He grows some fancy split cups. His Champion Split could almost be classified as a double.
One of our little split cups won Champion Intermediate.
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A few miniatures for those who are miniature enthusiasts. Some of the latest developments.
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Graham,
it was disappointing that more visitors from interstate did not make it to Leongatha but A & G Davis scooped the pool for the Championships to make up for that!
Here's the Championship Table,
The Grand Champion x 2
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fermi
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How very odd it seems to me that that flower should be the Grand Champion. Cleary I understand nothing about the requisites for a good daff - to me the trumpet is ridiculously undersized for the full, overlapping corolla
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these are stunning - thank you for sharing the photos
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How very odd it seems to me that that flower should be the Grand Champion. Cleary I understand nothing about the requisites for a good daff - to me the trumpet is ridiculously undersized for the full, overlapping corolla
I'm with you on that one, Maggi. It's a bit unbalanced to my eye and not sure what it wants to be - not flared enough to be a small cup and too small to make a pleasingly proportioned trumpet.
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Fermi, the main problem was that the Leongatha Show was on at the same time as the Hobart Show and the Canberra Show. The other thing is that two of the big exhibitors are no longer exhibiting. Tony and Graeme are still growing and exhibiting standards. I suspect the Canberra and Hobart Shows had a better array of flowers and that would particularly be the case with miniatures.
Maggie, show flowers are grown for a set of rules and for the tastes of judges who work within those rules. It leads to a lot of yellow trumpets that all look much the same. Judges often judge according to what they are familiar with rather than the quality of what is in front of them and this is particularly when seedlings are exhibited. The alpine garden world is quite different to the exhibition world.
Lawrence Trevanion's split cup was the best flower in the show in my opinion and a lot better than the flower that won Grand Champion but I was not the judge. In terms of quality and something special it was miles ahead.
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Lesley, it is not often that it can be said that I have managed to breed something that has the name "Lesley's Delight" written all over it. :o :o
Why?? It is a very special flower because it is a cross between your two favourite daffodils - a split cup and a double!! 8) 8) 8)
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"Lesley's Delight"
Graham, register it and send the first 10 to Lesley to start sales! ;D ;D ;D
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I find the putative 'Lesley's Delight' quite attractive - must get more sleep.
Actually, are most two-tone doubles not also split-cups?
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First a warning!
Lesley I am not sure you should look at this post as it is graphic in terms of N. watieri and split cup breeding!
I hope everyone else enjoys the photos! It includes our first truly miniature multi-headed split cup!! 8) 8)
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Even more split cups and a few non-split cups!!
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I've got to say I'm with Lesley.
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Does that mean I have to see if Dave's Delight is available as a name?
Some non-split cup photos.
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Some more miniature or near miniatures (poeticus hybrids).
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David, nothing like optimism!! 8)
Some more photos of split cups!!
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Even more photos of split cups and a miniature 1W-P.! 8) 8)
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Some miniatures.
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I am surprised no one took me to task over the name for the last photo of the preceding post. It is of course N. hedreanthus ssp luteolentus.
A few miniatures including a miniature split cup tazetta!! 8) 8)
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I am surprised no one took me to task over the name for the last photo of the preceding post. It is of course N. hedreanthus ssp luteolentus.
Did you perhaps mean N. cantabricus subsp. luteolentus ? Now preferred, I believe as N. x blancoi ?
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While we are best know for our miniatures we dabble in standard jonquilla hybrids because it is closely associated with our miniature hybridising program. The only colour combination that we don't have fertile jonquilla hybrids is Y-R.
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Maggie, we are obviously several name changes behind. I don't think I am going to attempt to change all our labels on our daffodils.
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Maggie, we are obviously several name changes behind. I don't think I am going to attempt to change all our labels on our daffodils.
Quite so, one's head can spin ..... http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6855.msg185831#msg185831 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=6855.msg185831#msg185831)
At least we're safe enough with it being a narcissus!
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I see what you mean Maggi about the putative LD, almost could be thought to have a little double trillium in there somewhere. (I wouldn't put it past Graham's trying for that!) As for giving it that name, you'd have my full permission to mis-spell as Leslie or maybe as something else altogether.
All the minis in Reply 37 are very cute. :)
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All the recent name changing among daffs is very frustrating for us in NZ as previously we cold import just about any but now, the new names are not recognized by MPI (MAF)
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Some more photos. Warning this post contains splits.
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All the recent name changing among daffs is very frustrating for us in NZ as previously we cold import just about any but now, the new names are not recognized by MPI (MAF)
... unless you can prove they have had a different name in a previous life. Like it or lump it, as they say.
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We are now into late season for us. It is the time of triandus, fertile jonquilla hybrids and poeticus. One of our friends from Bowral gave us a marvellous miniature poeticus hybrid to assist our hybridising of coloured miniatures. It has NZ poeticus in its parentage.
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I have noticed that we have our first feral NTT flowering. We have a lot of feral triandus hybrids on our property as we have been breeding them for a while.
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Lesley, this is a post about split cups. It has a couple of nice split cups and what happens when they don't work out.
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Some odds and ends. We have some excellent intermediate doubles flowering at the moment.
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I really am with Lesley on this one! In my eyes a daffodil MUST have a cup and six tepals - and it mustn't be green! Here's one that IS green AND it's got a split cup AND it's growing in my collection AND I love it - proves how wrong you can be! ;) :D
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I am not sure that even N. viridiflorus will convince Lesley of the error of her ways in relation to split cups.
As you can see it is jonquilla hybrid time here.
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More jonquilla hybrids.
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A few photos of our main daffodil beds.
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And another couple of photos.
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Wow! I've never seen the likes before! What a lot of weeding! I think I've got six pots of Daffs in total... ;) :D
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Rogan, the one thing we are short of is volunteers to weed. We were way behind this year because it rained at the wrong time and it then got very cold. The other thing is that the photos are of our main daffodil beds so there are quite a few more daffodils plus what is in the shade house.
We are now into very late season. Lots of triandus, jonquilla hybrids, tazetta hybrids, triandus hybrids and a few other such as poeticus still flowering.
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There are some very special things flowering at the moment.
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Rogan, we don't do everything manually. We have a deal of equipment to minimize the work. The biggest problem is rain at the wrong time. That can leave us with lots of weeds.
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Only one photo today. It is of a small bulbocodium that was a feral that was so good it had to be rescued.
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There are some very special things flowering at the moment.
Not usually one for pinks, but the pale pink on that miniature is rather sweet.
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A few more photos.
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A few more photos.
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Thank you for sharing soooo many beautiful pictures, all :D I really love those smaller daffs :P
Since the earlier flowering daffs start to flower in 'north' and the later ones are still coming in 'south' in this season, I think it would be better we split the monthly topic into two as ‘northern' and ‘southern' hemisphere from October. How about this?
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I have just become a member of the Forum and I must say I am not disappointed. The photos everyone has been sharing are fabulous. I hope to start sharing some of mine soon.
Dave Hardy
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I have just become a member of the Forum and I must say I am not disappointed. The photos everyone has been sharing are fabulous. I hope to start sharing some of mine soon.
Dave Hardy
Welcome, David.
Look forward to seeing your photographs.
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Thank you for sharing soooo many beautiful pictures, all :D I really love those smaller daffs :P
Since the earlier flowering daffs start to flower in 'north' and the later ones are still coming in 'south' in this season, I think it would be better we split the monthly topic into two as ‘northern' and ‘southern' hemisphere from October. How about this?
Good idea, YT - go ahead!
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I have just become a member of the Forum and I must say I am not disappointed. The photos everyone has been sharing are fabulous. I hope to start sharing some of mine soon.
Dave Hardy
Hello Dave - welcome to this place -where you will find folks with all sorts of interests in all sorts of plants - and all willing to share their experiences. Enjoy!!
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Good idea, YT - go ahead!
Thanks, Maggi. I've done ;)
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Thanks Chris and Maggi for your very kind welcome.
Dave