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Title: cypripedium
Post by: ellenndan on December 21, 2006, 06:22:58 PM
Hi there just wondering if anyone has any Cypripedium for swap or sale, or know of any good suppliers of young Cypripedium.

Thanks Ellen and Dan
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on December 21, 2006, 06:54:10 PM
Try: Cyps Direct (Peter Corkhill)
“Hazelwood”, New Barns Rd,
ARNSIDE, Carnforth, Lancs.  LA5  0BH
 01524 761567       email:  p.corkhill@daelnet.co.uk
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: ellenndan on December 21, 2006, 07:56:57 PM
Thanks for the info, they are not far from me.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: KentGardener on January 04, 2007, 03:20:11 AM
Hi Dan

I have ordered from Orchis nursery before (my records say £16 for Emil).

Richard Manuel
Orchis Nursery
Wye View Cottage
Leys Hill
Ross-on-Wye
Herefordshire
HR9 5QU

regards

John
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: KentGardener on January 04, 2007, 03:30:30 AM
Me Again

been going through my old catalogues - heres another couple.

Big List of Cyps (but cheapest is £25! - I have never ordered from them but they had 34 different cyp plants listed last year):
Hardy Orchids
Pitcot Lane
Owslebury
Winchester
SO21 1LR
www.hardyorchids.co.uk

Small list (but at better prices!  £12 cheapest):
Laneside Alpines & Hardy Orchids
office:  74 Croston Road
Garstang
Preston
PR3 1HR
Nursery: Bells Bridge Lane
off Cockerham Road
Garstang

One last thought - I have purchased a couple of very young ones from ebay from less than a fiver in the past.

Hope these help.

cheers

John
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 04, 2007, 11:09:12 AM
Lanesides alpines looks good (http://lanesidealpines.com/)
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Joakim B on January 04, 2007, 11:09:36 AM
John
Size does matter  ::)

Cyps have a tendency to double in price every growth year. So mature are more expensive than seedlings, but since they were asking for seedlings the cheaper the better.
There is a Belgium wholesale company that sells Cyp seedlings for 2-4€ with aa minimum of 40 or 50. Especially some sorts are very nice prices since they are one year in soil. This is more for some garden club to order some, or sometimes they are sold of on ebay.
I have bought from them and the p and p is a bit expensive since they use DHL (or similar) 40€ or so. I got plenty more than what I have ordered but the size was not that big so when they count a year in soil it may vary for how long depending on when during the year one buy.
The place is http://www.phytesia.com
I saw that they have started with selling flask 40€ for 8-10 plants.
Also there is an other Belgium company that also sell cyps and hardy orchids.
It is crustacare
http://www.crustacare.be/Plants/HomepagePlantsEnglish.html
I bought some  mature datcylorhiza majalis for 5€ and others for 10€ but no cyps.
There are a lot of seedling sources and the advantage is that they are never wild collected.

Enjoy the pages they have nice pics both sites

Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Joakim B on January 04, 2007, 11:27:08 AM
If you are into hybrids
Werener frosch have a sale in february.
You need to closly watch the page since they are gone in hours. It is often new things that are not available elsewhwer.
The prize was 2€ and p and 8-9€.
I have bought several times and are happy with it.
I am not allowed to buy any this year so I can give you that hint.
http://www.w-frosch.onlinehome.de/Angebot/aaa_e.htm
His webpage is the best for cyps!

Enjoy
Joakim
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: ellenndan on January 05, 2007, 08:52:28 PM
Thanks to everyone for there help. I have bought quite a bit off Jeff at laneside alpines all very good size. Also bought some of ebay from germany. I will take a look at the web sites you have recomended.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: KentGardener on January 05, 2007, 09:13:00 PM
Excellent Dan, it is always good to know that the SRGC collective knowledge has been assimilated and of help once again. ;D

cheers

John

Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 05, 2007, 11:00:12 PM
Over the last week or so I've been checking my cyps. I know you shouldn't poke about, but if you are very careful it pays off. In garden grown plants winter wet is a killer, but if you have plenty of rain throughout the year a very free draining medium works. In drier areas this could be a problem as the roots must never dy out. My garden soil has a lot of clay and worms can drag this into the roots, or worse, the crown of the plant. I wash and replant mine every two or three years, with the exception of one calceolus (it is in a part of my rock garden that seems to have no clay), to counter this problem. Another problem is surface roots from other plants. I removed a matt of fine fibrous roots from just under the gravel mulch of another clump of calceolus without disturbing the plant and covered with fresh gravel. I learned from a Swedish web site that terracotta roof tiles can be used to prevent winter rain damaging the plants. I may try this with sensitive plants like flavum and montanum, which I have had problems with in the past? Cold is never a problem for cyps (except ones like californicum, which come from warmer climes). In fact, they need three to four months of 5oC or lower in order to break their bud dormancy.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Joakim B on January 06, 2007, 12:11:41 PM
The Malgren website has a much more organic compost compared with what is the case in the German recomendation. Swedish winters can be wet and cold and also alternating from cold to warm so that is why they have the roof tile. They are also growing for the gardener rather than the cyp lover and that is why they use simple soil and winter covering. They are doning the growing there style and it seems to be a good one.

The site is especially intersting if one wants to grow orchids from seeds since they are amongst the top of the world in that area (for hardy orchids).
Take care
Joakim
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 06, 2007, 02:01:00 PM
I agree Joakim, but here in Dunblane we have a lot of rain and if I used my normal soil the plants wouldn't survive. Too much rain with a water-retentive soil would cause crown rot. Today I was repotting some of my cyps that have not been disturbed for a couple of years. The photo shows Cypripedium macranthos being processed. I carefully tip the plant out and then rinse in rain water. This one I have grown from a deflasked seedling purchased a few years ago. I hope it will flower soon! The small pot on the right is my mix [40% Seramis®; 40% coarse perlite; 10% fine bark; 10% sieved loam with a handful of crushed oyster shell]. I cover with granite chippings.

Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Joakim B on January 06, 2007, 02:29:19 PM
Nice plant Adarby! :)
Extra nice to have grown from a seedling.
Are You generally repoting this early?
Growing in clay might be to much for them :) even if some of the cyp calceolus in Sweden grows in almost clay. I have not seen them so I do not know how "almost clay" it is. Malmgren and Nyström call their soil "free draining good garden soil" so it might not be that different but with an early covering of the plant they get ok conditions. Do You grow in pots that are in the soil or is this only done for the seedlings?
Growing in a more natural soil would meen that You would have huge holes to fill with more natural soil to get it free draining, maybe it is better to have the special mix You use. You obviously get good results according to the pics I have seen so I would not dare to give any advise to You! Maybe the drier rock garden now have a more natural mix around the cyp calceolus and they still look good due to better drainage?
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 06, 2007, 05:41:47 PM
Pot or garden, I use the same mix. In the garden I dig out a large hole and throw the soil away as only hippos would like it (and probably sing about it). I then fill the hole with the above mix, sometimes lining the hole with a pond lily basket to hold back the mud. I mulch with granite chippings (¼") to keep weeds and cats at bay.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Susan Band on January 24, 2007, 03:51:12 PM
Help!
After following one of the links on this page and some rash internet shoppping I now have just had a 200 cypripedium seedlings delivered. The instructions say to grow them in 100% pumice or seramis for the first 2 years. This seems a little hard on them, how will they manage to grow especially as it also states not to use fertiliser. Has anyone else tried this or are you all tempted like me to add a little something. Antony, I notice you mentioned adding a little loam and bark to your pots, was this from the very start?
Susan
anyone wanting to buy a few cyps? ;D
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: ellenndan on January 24, 2007, 05:18:56 PM
Hi Susan
 I would love to know what you have and how much.
Dan and Ellen
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Joakim B on January 24, 2007, 08:40:23 PM
I think that the "soil" depends on what spieces it is.
The Chinese spotted ones are very difficult while others might stand a more natural soil with a bit of fertilizer in a diluted range.
Malmgren uses A wood compost from a nearby forest. He does not grow the Chinese and he grows a lot of hybrids.
Maybe ADarby or Hannelotte can comment more.

Good luck
Joakim
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 24, 2007, 09:55:14 PM
Susan, I use the same mix for seedlings as for mature plants - 80% inorganic; 20% organic [see above]. For species inorganic fertiliser at a quarter strength should be given, as long as there are visible leaves, every fortnight. The secret is never to let the plants dry out, but they must not be waterlogged, especially around the crown. Hybrids are much more vigorous and can cope with full strength fertilser.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Kjell.K on January 24, 2007, 10:25:45 PM
I grow Cypripediums from seed.Deflasked seedlings I grow in 25% wet Rockwool,25% dry Rocwool, 25% sand and 25% Perlite. They grow for 2-3 months in a "propagator" before i put them into soil.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Susan Band on January 25, 2007, 08:39:47 AM
Thanks for all the help. I will try experimenting with all the methods. Check back here in 5 years time ;D
susan
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Jozef Lemmens on January 25, 2007, 10:41:57 AM
I keep my deflasked seedlings in pure Vulkakorral the first winter. This is a kind of pumice.  After the first winter, I keep them in 90 % Vulkakorrel and about 10 % peat, until they can go in the garden.

Jozef



Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 25, 2007, 12:05:51 PM
I think the advice in Scotland would be to avoid peat unless you are growing under cover. It breaks down too quickly lowering the pH. Anything than allows totally free drainage and plenty of air round the crown should work. Fungicide also helps despite the association in the wild. Fungal rot is what kills plants.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: David Shaw on January 25, 2007, 06:36:47 PM
I am not a cyp grower but an organic product that matches Anthony's recomendation of not using peat would be 'ground and composted bark'. It has larger particles than peat and should not break down as quickly.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on January 25, 2007, 07:18:44 PM
I totally agree David. Ian - the Christie kind - recommended the fine composted 'Cambark'®.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Greenmanplants on February 04, 2007, 11:54:33 PM
Susan,
I grow seedlings in cat litter, the biosorb kind.  It has the same properties as Seramis but at 1/10th the price.  Mix leaf mold or pine duff and limestone chippings according to PH requirements but never peat as peat promotes crown rot.

Phytesia are great, just have to get a group going to share the seedlings.. I plant 10-15 to a 9" pot as they seem to like the colony approach and fewer die than in individual pots(at least with me).

What have you 200 of??  Mine are due to arrive in March, all ready vernalised and ready to pot up.

Cheers John H


Phytesia sa is a biotechnology company and specializes in the production of hardy orchids from tissue culture. Wholesale cypripedium, dactylorhiza, orchis, ...
www.phytesia.com    added by M
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 05, 2007, 11:18:13 AM
The hardy orchids (Cypripedium spp., Ophrys spp., Dactylorhiza spp. and Orchis spp.) will be from seeds and not tissue culture.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Maggi Young on February 05, 2007, 11:20:58 AM
Good to know about a source that does produce "legit" babies, though, ain't it?
I'm not surprised that Anthony, too, knew about this company, but it was news to me.....yes, I know, I should get out more!
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 05, 2007, 11:36:20 AM
Couldn't agree more Maggi. Not only that, the plants will be healthy and much more amenable to pot/garden culture. Plants taken from the wild generally fail to thrive in most cases due to the lack of roots and the extensive damage allowing pathogens in. Still, it is not easy to grow on vernalised seedlings and requires patience as they generally take three to five years to flower - rather like Trilliums. Hybrid cyps are generally more vigorous and are the best for beginners. Paul Christian is offering a fair number of flowering sized plants in his www.rareplant.co.uk catalogue, but not if you have deep pockets and short arms. ;)
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Greenmanplants on February 05, 2007, 12:57:17 PM
Pyhtesia is connected to the University of Liege in Belguim.  Bob Brown has been dealing with them for a while.  As Antony says, all the orchid production is by applying microprop techniques to seed, not meristem cloning, thus the biodiversity and all that is good in seed propagation is maintained.....you just get higher success factors.

Phytesia don't knowingly do hybrids.  Does anyone have a good source of Flask Hybrids, I'd be interested....

Start with 3 year old seedlings already weaned in compost and work backwards.  The transition from flask to compost seems to be the hardest bit....at least for me.

Cheers John H   
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Susan Band on February 05, 2007, 03:00:37 PM
Hi John,
I got 4 batches of 50 plants each of calceolus, parviflorum,kentukiense and fasciolatum. They are all small seedlings but look healthy. Unfortunatly they didn't have any bigger plants of the ones I asked for, so I don't have any larger ones to try. Straight in at the deep end for me! I have tried them in various different mixes so will wait and see what happens.
Susan
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 05, 2007, 03:38:30 PM
That's a good selection Susan. Occasionally Frosch( http://www.w-frosch.onlinehome.de/Angebot/saem7e.htm) has a sale of hybrid seedlings (round about now) and Peter Corkhill likewise sells a good selection. There is also 'Orchids by Post' (http://www.orchidsbypost.co.uk/) as well as others mentioned before.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Joakim B on February 06, 2007, 12:18:41 AM
There is an other belgum company that has some hybrids not so many as flask but some and maany in differens size of seedlings.
http://www.crustacare.be/Plants/HomepagePlantsEnglish.html
You will need to ask for the list that is available.
I have only bought dactyloriza and epipactis of him but I was happy with what I got.

The besy source is without doubt Frosch but You need to be on the webpage instantly or You will have a limited choice or nt even that.
The price is 2 € so one have to be quick.
There is sail in fevruary (I think it has finished already) and in August.
I have bought a few times and are happy with it.
Lidafrors also sells hybrids but they are generally bigger 3 years and like to sell in bigger volumes so a garden club or so could join up to order. I have done that and a re happy with the plants. They are 12-17€ depending on Age.
http://www.lidaforsgarden.com/Orchids/ one needs to ask to get the list of what is available later.

The one that also have hybrids as flask is Pinkepank whos web page is
http://www.terrorchids.com/store_artikel.asp?WarengruppeID=2&WarengruppeBez=S%E4mlinge%2C+Seedlings
I have never ordered from him. He also have bigger plants.

Enjoy
Joakim
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: ellenndan on February 18, 2007, 02:20:55 PM
Hi there, i have just bought a cypripedium Micranthum and was wondering if anyone can help with what compost mix to use as i have read lots of different mixes off other web sites.
Many thanks Ellen and Dan
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 18, 2007, 02:57:49 PM
Jings. Nothing like trying one of the most difficult species :o Cypripedium micranthum belongs to section Trigonopedia, which have very short stems and long underground rhizomes and comes from eastern Sichuan. It has the smallest cypripedium flowers. I haven't tried it, but have heard that it responds well to a tidal system, whereby the water level in the pots rises to just below the crown for 5 minutes twice a day. It seems that it likes a very free draining inorganic medium that never dries out. I am trying some other species from this group (margaritaceum, lichiangense and lentiginosum) and am growing them in my usual mix but with a wick made of capillary matting coiled through the medium just below the roots. This then goes through the hole in the base of the pot into a water reservoir. The pots are raised a few centimetres above the water. This prevents the roots from drying out without causing the crown to become too wet. Good luck.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: ellenndan on February 18, 2007, 03:35:03 PM
Thanks Antony for the advice. I have potted it in 5 parts perlite, 5 parts course dry sand and 1 part JI no3 compost watered from the bottom. Does that sound any good. I am hoping to get some of the species you mentioned as seedlings in the next month or 2. Hope your Cyps are doing well.
Thanks Ellen and Dan
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 18, 2007, 04:44:52 PM
Not sure about using JI3? I missed out the loam part with mine and am keeping them frost free, unlike my larger spp. and hybrids. I have just received 11 (I ordered 10) seedlings of Cypripedium macranthos from Werner Frosch and have planted them in almost pure perlite. They will need protection in their first year in "soil". I find that sand holds too much moisture, but then Dunblane is  "temperate rain"! [We would be "temperate rain forest" if we hadn't chopped down the forest!] :(
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: ellenndan on February 18, 2007, 06:24:23 PM
Thanks again Anthony. We have just ordered some Seramis. We have never used it before, but heard lots of good reports. We are new to Cyps and this is our first flowering sized one.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 18, 2007, 06:51:50 PM
John Amand had several vars at the Early Bulb Show yesterday, but I resisted temptation. Peter Corkhill in Carnforth is your nearest grower. I got a large (3 nosed) calceolus from him in the autumn at a very reasonable price.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: ellenndan on February 18, 2007, 07:36:30 PM
Many thanks Anthony, i have been in touch with Peter corkhill. We are not far from Laneside Alpines which has some good stock of Cyps and some seedlings this spring.
Thanks for the help Ellen and Dan
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Maggi Young on February 18, 2007, 07:38:30 PM
Big John A. also had the plant you were looking for, for a gift, a while ago, Dan.... Tacca chantrieri. He gave one to the raffle for a prize and re labelled it Tacca c. Maggii........something to do with him thinking me a bat  :o
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on February 20, 2007, 09:23:19 AM
www.cypripedium.de/forum is a very good site if you are looking for advice or wish to ask the experts.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: ellenndan on February 21, 2007, 06:15:46 PM
Thanks maggi, i got my girlfriend a dressing gown instead! Think it did the trick.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: David Nicholson on February 21, 2007, 08:28:35 PM
Oh! did it!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: canyoncreekman on February 26, 2007, 12:02:34 AM
This is a general comment on growing some hardy orchids.  Our species of native cyps, calypsos, the bracteds and so on are relatively easy to grow 'in our environment'.  Millions of cyps grow along our mountain rivers and billions of calypsos in the front ranges of the Rockies. They just aren't all that fussy. In Yoho Park along the Kicking Horse River, there are Cypripediums popping up through abandoned asphalt roads.

  I've never paid much attention to the soil or fertilizing. the clumps of cyps double on average every year and the calypso bulbosa orchids are so indestructable that even the pea size bulbs thrown on the compost pile will root and flower (like an onion that can 'pop' to life after sitting around on the garden surface all winter).

 Having said this, we can't grow a cedar tree or a boxwood hedge or holly.  Temperatures, but especially humidity is not correct.  Trying to keep a hybrid rose alive for more than a year takes gardening gymnastics.

 The point of all this is that generalizations about growing cyps can result in a lot effort in the wrong direction. The species need different requirements and particular attention given to the actual wild source of the seedlings. Our cyp seedlings like it cold and our dry humidity and never come within a mile of a particle of peat.  They like spring melt water and don't mind wet roots up until about the beginning of July...then dry or excellent drainage. Mountain snow melt and spring precipitation raises water levels and then it's more or less dry once the waters recede and the cycle begins again the following spring.

 In contrast, my brother lives in Kentucky in the USA and his cyps  thrive on the humidity and cool damp winters. We've exchanged plants in the past and had little success at either end. He still has a few C. passerinum from here but even the dead-easy generic yellow ladyslippers didn't make it at either end.

 If you are buying a hardy orchid it's good to ask two questions about the origin.  Where was it grown and,equally, important, where is the original stock from.       
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: John Forrest on March 06, 2007, 11:29:53 AM
That was a fascinating insight into growing Cyps Nelson. It is very easy to fall into the received wisdom that all will thrive under the same growing regime. Most gardeners want to grow the things that don't much care for the conditions  we can give. Mind you it is rubbing salt into our wounds when you talk of the mouth watering Calypso being thrown onto the compost heap :'(
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on March 06, 2007, 02:11:27 PM
I second that. Alas, we are trying to grow plants that don't occur naturally in this country. I often wonder if there would be enough genetic variation amongst the countless seeds to produce plants that would thrive in my garden? The idea that Calypso could root on a compost heap is amazing. :o Here flowering sized plants sell for more than cypripediums!
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: John Forrest on March 06, 2007, 07:41:46 PM
Perhaps we could persuade Nelson to send us a bucket full of Calypsos and in return we could let him have some old cabbage leaves and potato peelings from our compost heaps. ;D
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on March 06, 2007, 08:33:30 PM
Now there's a thought. I think we in the West (OK Dunblane's central, but when it's raining in the west we're in the west) have the perfect climate for these special orchids.

Here's a pic of Cypripedium lichiangense growing in Yijia Wang's nursery. I'm trying to grow this species using a wick system to keep the compost moist and the crown dryish. I must not get its leaves wet or they will rot.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Maggi Young on March 06, 2007, 09:08:25 PM
Good luck, Anthony, you will need it I think. And an umbrella.

I remember seeing lots of super Cyps etc growing in Yijia's nursery in posts on the old forum, search Cypripediums and you will find them.

 Nelson, I'll see JoF's bucket of cabbage leaves and potato peelings and raise you three pineapple skins and a half bucket of carrot peelings !
{sings: "you've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away and then know when to run. You never count your winnings when you're sitting at the table, there'll be time enough for counting, when the dealing's done" not a bad Kenny Rogers impression, even if I do say so, myself!!
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on March 06, 2007, 11:32:08 PM
This was the source of my info regarding these tricky cyps. http://www.slipperorchidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=94606
[I wonder if I will regret getting rid of my compost heap? The last lot of compost I had to take to the allotment - all 20 bags of it - so it was a waste of precious space. I don't have any garden I can spread that much compost on.]
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: canyoncreekman on March 06, 2007, 11:40:14 PM
Perhaps we could persuade Nelson to send us a bucket full of Calypsos and in return we could let him have some old cabbage leaves and potato peelings from our compost heaps. ;D


Sure. No problem if you'd like I'll send a couple dozen to you and you could share a few with enthusiasts on this forum.   Remind me in mid June. If I don't mark the plants when in bloom they 'disappear'.  A calypso  doesn't have much  greenery to it and they are soon overshadowed by many other woodland garden plants...many just 'stretching' awake when the calypsos fade.  Calypsos tend to be moody bloomers..not unlike our bunchberries. .  If I don't mark them or if they don't bloom I won't know where they are to dig up bulbs in mid July or so....but I'm pretty sure there will be plenty.  The bulbs are pea size and somewhat underwhelming to look at.  I'll include a copy of my permit in case there are any issues at that end.  

 No need to send anything in return because 'gardening' in Canada is synonomous with trying to emulate the British garden. This is changing with more interest in alpines, natives and so on.  If a Brit was to walk into a Canadian garden center (nursery) you would feel right at home. The issue isn't always trying to grow a particular plant but growing it so it thrives.
 
    
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: John Forrest on March 07, 2007, 11:05:28 AM
Nelson,I think Gobsmacked and overwhelmed describes the situation. I was only joking but I'm sure that other forumists would be similarly overjoyed to share your kind offer. About the nothing in return, do please have a look at any of the images posted and if anything takes your fancy just say the word. No cabbages I promise!!

Cheers

John
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on March 07, 2007, 12:04:07 PM
I'll second that. That is extremely generous and I'd be delighted to take part in this fantastic offer.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Maggi Young on March 07, 2007, 12:10:55 PM
Nelson, this is an amazing offer, I think you can tell we are overwhelmed by even the thought!
I only saw Calypso bulbosa "for real" for the first time in 1991 and I was immediately captivated.
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: johanneshoeller on March 07, 2007, 07:18:05 PM
It was the last year in my garden.

Hans
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: Anthony Darby on March 07, 2007, 10:01:36 PM
Wow! :o I'm impressed. What is your secret Hans? Have you grown these from seedlings?
Title: Re: cypripedium
Post by: johanneshoeller on March 08, 2007, 06:25:50 AM
Antony, the plants are from an Austrian nursery and grown from seed. I have no problems to cultivate them for 5 years, and they grow much easier in my garden than in pots. I mean they need more water than we always mean.

Hans
from Austria
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