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Bulbs => Bulbs General => Topic started by: Lvandelft on February 04, 2008, 11:13:34 PM
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Edit in January 2011: This thread is formed from the pages of previous years for Luit van Delft's musings from the weekly flower show at Lisse, in the Netherlands, of the KAVB, which translates in English as Royal General Bulbgrowers' Association
When clicking this link: http://www.ishs.org/sci/icralist/49.htm you will come to the ICRA Report Sheet showingthose bulbs for which KAVB is the official registrar.
Luit's remarks begin in 2008:
In this Topic I'll show you mostly pictures of bulbous plants, which I hope Forumists like to see.
This week I saw the following interesting items:
Colchicum triphyllum
Colchicum raddeanum from Sarayen Alvares ski-resort in Iran (probably the smallest Colchicum?)
Ipheion Jessie, which might be the most blueish form.
Iris hircana, very rich flowering pot
Narcissus Orange Queen, a nice jonquill
Tulipa Abra
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Excellent idea, Luit! Thank you. 8)
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Quite interesting, Luit! A good opportunity to become aware of some new bulbous plants.
Gerd
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I think this might be Colchicum raddeana in Iran. We were lucky, it was flowering at the snow line at about 3000m.
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Great idea - and you've shown me two Colchicum that I have not seen before already!
Ipheon Jessie looks exactly like Ipheon Rolf Fiedler ... have you seen that one Luit?
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Thank you Tony,
this Colchicum triphylla I allready posted in "Which Colchicum" where Gerd told me what it is.
The Ipheion looks on the picture like Rolf Fiedler and it is a selection of it.
The experts in the committee told us that it is a darker form, alas I couldn't get the right blue with my camera.
Luit
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I think this might be Colchicum raddeana in Iran. We were lucky, it was flowering at the snow line at about 3000m.
Arthur, that's great to see this picture, comparing to the poor little things in a pot!
It seems a wonderful plant.
The grower was glad that it's flowering with him and still alive.
When I meet the man who found it Ill ask him what he thinks.
Luit
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Luit, i really enjoy your pictures from your weekly flower shows.
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This week I want to show you the following items:
Fritillaria reuteri
Hippeastrum pink
Very dark blue Hyacinthus Aida
Last week I showed Ipheion Jessie but now I think the colour on the
picture is more near to reality.
A virusfree Iris Katherine Hodgkin
Iris White Caucasus
Narcissus Johann Strauss
Tulipa greigii Oranje
Tulipa Spryng
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Thanks Luit that Fritillaria reuteri is a stunner 8)
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and I forgot a Narcissus of which the name is probably not o.k., because there is another bigger trumpet with the name Douglas Bank, raised in Scotland.
Narcissus minor Douglas Bank
Tulipa Spryng
Tulipa greigii Oranje
Narcissus Johann Strauss 1
Narcissus Johann Strauss 2
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Luit
I will try to find my photos of Frit reuteri in Iran. The ones you have taken in pots compare favourably. It is a difficult Frit to grow.
Please keep these wonderful shots coming
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Thank you both.
I was told by the grower it is easier than F. michailovskii. ??
Luit
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Luit, why do you think this narcissus is NOT 'Douglas Bank' ? It looks fine to me like what we grow here as 'Douglas Bank' Ours will not be out for some time here in Aberdeen, though, but, of scourse... in a pot... things can be early.
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Maggi, I just thought id doesn't belong to the mostly bigger flowering division I.
Now I found out it is a N. minor seedling and I could not find it under N. minor Douglas Bank.
But it seems to be a miniature.
Should I call it just N. Douglas Bank, (without minor) then??
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Today was a very sunny day, so in the show-hall the venetian blinds were closed
and I had some difficulties with making good pictures.
Nevertheless here are some results:
A nice pot with Fritillaria acmopetala ssp. wendelboi
Helleborus Silver Dollar (a lividus cross)
Narcissus Small Talk
Narcissus gayi
Primula vulgaris taygetos
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a nice group of reticulata irises
Narcissus obvallaris
Iris histr. Sheila Ann Germaney
Iris winogradowii
Iris histr. Lady Beatrix Stanley
Ipheion dialystemon
Narcissus Little Beauty
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Another good day in Lisse!
I always think of Fritillaria acmopetala as being one of the later flowering frits... a shock to see it today!
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Another good day in Lisse!
I always think of Fritillaria acmopetala as being one of the later flowering frits... a shock to see it today!
Maggi
they were forced for flowering in the foregoing week for a flowershow,
but Fritz not always does what people want him to do. ::) ::)
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Nice colourful series Luit - thanks for taking us to your weekly private show ;D
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Lovely show Luit, some very nice plants and really well grown. I liked the Ipheon dialystemon particularly and also Primula vulgaris Taygetos which I have in my garden. I bought it last year from Broadleigh Bulbs but they spelt it, quite wrongly 'Taigetos'
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Thanks for all your pics, Luit!
I rate this topic quite highly!
cheers
fermi
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Thank you for your nice words. I hope to show more as long as you like it.
I bought it last year from Broadleigh Bulbs but they spelt it, quite wrongly 'Taigetos'
David, I believe this plant came from the same source as yours as 'Taigetos'
I didn't note the spelling was wrong, I typed it automatically with an 'y'.
Don't know what is right, but if the plant originated in Greece what I think, Taygetos is better!
I couldn't find it in The plantfinder either.
???
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Thank you for your nice words. I hope to show more as long as you like it.
I bought it last year from Broadleigh Bulbs but they spelt it, quite wrongly 'Taigetos'
David, I believe this plant came from the same source as yours as 'Taigetos'
I didn't note the spelling was wrong, I typed it automatically with an 'y'.
Don't know what is right, but if the plant originated in Greece what I think, Taygetos is better!
I couldn't find it in The plantfinder either.
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Luit, you were right. Have a look at this, and if you have a bit of time to spare have a look at the whole Site.
http://www.greekmountainflora.info/Taygetos/slides/Primula%20vulgaris.html
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Luit, you were right. Have a look at this, and if you have a bit of time to spare have a look at the whole Site.
Thank you David, I had a short look at the Site and for me it's clear that it should be "taygetos".
But I think it will be difficult to convince the Nursery owner she made a mistake.
Did you have a nice Wednesday then?? ;D ;D
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Luit, you were right. Have a look at this, and if you have a bit of time to spare have a look at the whole Site.
Thank you David, I had a short look at the Site and for me it's clear that it should be "taygetos".
But I think it will be difficult to convince the Nursery owner she made a mistake.
Did you have a nice Wednesday then?? ;D ;D
It was shoes today Luit and much more expensive than plants :(
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Some impressions of what I saw today with some nice improvements
on orange Fritillaria as cutflower without the normally ugly scent and
some exemples of crosses of non-smelling Frits with f. raddeana.
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and some other flowers with an interesting Tulip from Janis Ruksans
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Isn't that Fritillaria [ inodora x raddeana ] attractive, Luit thank you for these weekly bulletins.
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Thanks Luit for all your pics!
Maybe a stupid question for you, but I'm a beginner in bulbs, so pleeeeeeeease tell me, what's the difference between Iris histrio, histrioides and reticulata?
I have The Bulb Book by Martyn Rix & Roger Philips (the old version) but it didn't enlighten me. They say only that (by head) "I. histrioides is closely related with I. histrio, but usually does not have leaves at first flowering."
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Thanks Luit for all your pics!
Maybe a stupid question for you, but I'm a beginner in bulbs, so pleeeeeeeease tell me, what's the difference between Iris histrio, histrioides and reticulata?
I have The Bulb Book by Martyn Rix & Roger Philips (the old version) but it didn't enlighten me. They say only that (by head) "I. histrioides is closely related with I. histrio, but usually does not have leaves at first flowering."
Kathrine, I am afraid not being very helpful.
I can say they all belong to the Reticulata Group.
Iris histrio is perhaps the smallest and earliest flowering.
Iris histrioides has the biggest flowers and is a little later than the foregoing.
I believe both start flowering before the leaves appear.
Iris reticulate is the highest one and has the greatest variation in colours.
But I think, when you ask different experts you will get as many different answers. ???
Gardeners will probably say: you can see the difference. ;D
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Here is the first batch of this week:
Amorphophallus rivierii (About 1.50 m. high)
Sorry, but you have to scroll down.
Fritillaria meleagris Alba
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I have edited Luit's pix to avoid the left to right scrolling , but some problem has made me repost them here.......
Tulipa Dreamlover
Tulipa tsinganica
Some Pot-lilies :
Lilium Tiny Diary
Lilium Tiny Padhye
Narcissus Snowball
Muscari azureum
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Luit, sorry to have to adjust your photos, you will see tha a width of around 650 pixels makes a good "Viewing size" !!
The Amorphophallus is extraordinary.... how could it manage to grow to flower with no roots?
Not the easiest thing to carry to a show, either, I imagine. :-[
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Sorry Maggi I totally forgot to resize. Thank you!
I am too busy with the Croconuts. ;D ;D
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That's okay, Luit! ;)
I understand the problem with those tommies..... I think we will never know for sure! :P :-\ :-X
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Maggi,
They're famed for it...... most people in the colder climates store them dry in their cellars/basements. The Amorph starts shooting it's leaves or flowers and then they are planted. They don't need moisture to start their growth. The flower emerges, flowers and finishes before any leaf emerges, so they're ideal to flower "naked" and dry. I think Amorph rivieri is a synonym for Amorph konjac from memory.... it's the easiest of the Amorphs to grow, offseting freely. Mine produces masses of little-uns. Never know what to do with them half the time. If I kept them all I'd be up to my neck in Amorphs rather quickly. I finally flowered mine for the first time last spring, which was something of an accomplishment as it had been large enough for a while but was being recalcitrant.
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Thanks Luit for all your pics!
Maybe a stupid question for you, but I'm a beginner in bulbs, so pleeeeeeeease tell me, what's the difference between Iris histrio, histrioides and reticulata?
I have The Bulb Book by Martyn Rix & Roger Philips (the old version) but it didn't enlighten me. They say only that (by head) "I. histrioides is closely related with I. histrio, but usually does not have leaves at first flowering."
Servus Kathrine. I'd say that the most important difference for a beginner with bulbs is that Iris histrioides is the most beautiful (and it shows its flowers best since the leaves are short when it blooms) but it and I. histrio are both expensive and less easy to keep growing in the garden than the many varieties of I. reticulata, which are far less expensive and easier to grow. If you are looking for which to start growing first, I would say start with the I. reticulata varieties available easily and inexpensively from the Dutch bulb merchants.
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Thank you Luit and Martin. I don't say that's absolutely clear now, but I think I have to see many plants and then the experience will do. :)
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Thank you Luit and Martin. I don't say that's absolutely clear now, but I think I have to see many plants and then the experience will do. :)
Kathrine, have you not seen many reticulate iris? Are the reticulata types not widely available for sale in Hungary? The reticulata cultivars and hybrids are not very expensive to experiment with and can be ordered by mail order from the big Dutch bulb companies.
The overall differences between the main species are obvious when you see the flowers in the garden or in pots. Iris histrioides has broad flower segments and short leaves at flowering time, so the blooms are very showy. The forms of reticulata (and also histrio) tend to have narrower flower segments which are less showy, and the tall leaves at flowering time tend to hide the blooms a little and distract the eye from the flowers. Then there are some hybrids between reticulata and and histrioides (e.g. 'Joyce' and 'Harmony') which are in-between the two species, with wider flower segments and shorter leaves than pure reticulata.
Histrioides and histrio are much more expensive, so to start with I would recommend the reticulata types, but especially the hybrids 'Joyce' and 'Harmony'. Although, if you can afford a bulb or two of histrioides, it is a real beauty well worth growing.
If it is difficult for you to buy the I. reticulata bulbs in Hungary, please let me know and perhaps I can send some when they are in the shops here later this year.
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Lilium Tiny Padhye is a very nice plant. What size was it?
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Kathrine, have you not seen many reticulate iris? Are the reticulata types not widely available for sale in Hungary?
I have not seen many histroides and histrio, Martin. :), so that's why I didn't realise the difference.
Yes, the reticulata types are available here (sometimes without a name >:(), and I have a brother in Holland (not interested in plants at all, but very helpful ;D).
So don't bother yourself with sending anything, thank you very much. :)
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Lilium Tiny Padhye is a very nice plant. What size was it?
About 50-60 Cm. These are all useful for selling as potplants, Mark.
Here's the last batch:
Muscari botryoides
Tulipa Baby Blue
Narcissus The Alliance
Pleione Iris
Tulipa Crispy Artair
Lilium Tiny Sensation
Narcissus Viva
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Lilium Tiny Padhye is a very nice plant. What size was it?
I think it's 'orrible! ::)
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This week there were again some interesting plants in the show.
Hope you like it.
Display tulips
Fritillaria biflora cl.
Fritillaria biflora 1
Hyacinthus Spring Joy
Fritillaria [-]
Fritillaria [-] cl.
Narcissus Petrel
Narcissus Petrel cl.
Tulipa sdl.
Fritillaria carica
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And here the second batch:
Narcissus Diamond Ring
Fritillaria Gokzun Gold
Fritillaria Gokzun Gold cl.
Parrot Tulip (the decision if you like it is yours)
Perhaps something special for Lesley?? ;D
Fritillaria pinardii Ole Sonderhausen
Fritillaria pinardii Ole Sonderhausen cl.
Fritillaria sdl. (of Fr. bucharica type)
Ornithogalum dubium
Tulipa Dimension This tulip was standing in the showroom since February 25th!
Still looking remarkably good.
Hyacinthus Prince of Love
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Super images Luit....please keep up the good work....
As for the Parrot tulip.....'Who's NOT a pretty boy then'?
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That Ornithogalum dubium is very nice.
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Just found out I forgot one interesting bulb of the show;
Muscari anatolicum
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As usual Luit I have enjoyed your pictures.
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So have I Luit. The Muscari is particularly attractive.
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Luit,
Thanks a lot for your wonderful pictures from exibitions. I enjoy them a lot, especially tulips, as they are my passion and have already 250 different tulip varieties in my collection.
I especially now take interest into older varieties, among which are many much better cultivars than those new introductions, which are only better fore forcing, but not for the garden. Unfortunately they aren't offered in trade or very rarely offered. As you live in Holland I would kindly ask you if you can learn if such varieties as 'Indian Chief', 'Tantalus', 'Panorama' and 'Lous XIV' (Single Late division (former Breeder)) are still grown commercially by some nursery in the Netherlands. You can probably ask some spesialists who exibit tulips in the show. These varieties have a special beauty and unusual colour for tulips, but, unfortunately, I don't see them anymore in trade.
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Thank you all for your kind comments. I'll have to go on sending pictures of the shows, don't I ? ;) :)
Zhirair, about your question about the old tulips I can tell you that these varieties are not in commercial production. Since the Darwin Hybrids came, most of these varieties disappeared.
In the Connoisseur Collection there are :
Tantalus, Louis XIV and Panorama.
I'll try to remember when they start to flower and hope to make some pictures.
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Luit,
Thanks for the information. What is the Connoisseur Collection and where is it located. I'll be just super if you manage to photograph these cultivars. They are late-blooming with exceptional beauty. I just know that these cultivars are grown in the collection of Hortus Bulborum. I've ordered their book lately, but pity that you can not make a choise regarding the varieties when ordring from them.
I am always surprised why those wonderful cultivars, which are no longer in commercial production. Many of the old tulips are much better than those new cultivars and very good growers in the garden, which can grow without lifting for many years. Knowing well the nature of tulips I can say that new cultivars don't surpass old varieties at all; they are just more suitable for commercial growing (especially for mechanical labour as for potatos), have good forcing qualities and rate of propagation. But from the point of decorativeness the new cultivars are far to surpass the old ones.
During Soviet period, there were many local tulip growers in our country offering over 1000 varieties of different tulips, including many rare ones. Ater the collapse of the country when the Dutch conquered our market with their chiep prices, many of the local growers stopped their business finding it not profitable anymore from the commercial point of vew. And the same situation is in our country now as well. Only around 300 tulips are curcling in the market, the others dissapeared. All companies offer the same range of tulip cultivars, which is very boring and even not interesting to collect, becuse they are widely awalable everywhere.
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Hyacinthus Miss Saigon
Chionoscilla allenii
And there was a nice presentation of seedlings from hybridising
the dark red Corydalis Zwanenburg with a pink C. decipiens.
Corydalis solida Zwanenburg x C. decipiens
Some Hepatica selections
Hepatica transsylvanica Blue Eyes
Hepatica transsylvanica Blue Jewel
Two weeks ago I showed a picture of Amorphophallus which
was brought in flower today.
Amorphophallus rivierii
And there were many tulips ofcourse:
Tulipa Provence
Tulipa batalini Bright Gem 1
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I hope I will go some day to Lisse flowershow.
Luit,
let me please to correct you -- since I was born in Transylvania -- it must be Hepatica tranSylvaniCa, not transsylvaniva. :)
And thank you for the every week presentation. :)
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Luit,
Most interesting selection - as always!
It is the first time a I heared of Chionoscilla allenii - a natural hybrid between Chionodoxa forbesii x Scilla bifolia (Google). Even beautiful Corydalis hybrids! Thank you!
Gerd
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Luit,
As always, your pics are wonderful! Fringed tulip 'Provence' has very nice and tender colour combination, not mentioning its beautiful flower shape. I always keep an eye on brand new tulip cultivars, but this one is unfamilliar to me.
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I hope I will go some day to Lisse flowershow.
Luit,
let me please to correct you -- since I was born in Transylvania -- it must be Hepatica tranSylvaniCa, not transsylvaniva. :)
:-[ :-[ :-[ ::)
Sorry Kathrine, it just happens sometimes typing a bit quick and as the v and c are so close
together.....
So next time it will be transsylvanica as it should be, I hope? ;D 8)
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Luit,
As always, your pics are wonderful! Fringed tulip 'Provence' has very nice and tender colour combination, not mentioning its beautiful flower shape. I always keep an eye on brand new tulip cultivars, but this one is unfamilliar to me.
Zhirair it seems to be a trend, because I see those fringed forms more often the last years.
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1 piece of s. transylvanica. :P
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Although I see that in many places it is written transsylvanica, even more, transsilvanica! :-\ >:(
In my latin dictionary there is Transylvania, transylvanus, transylvanica, etc.
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Well Kathrine I think we should it leave to the taxonomists.
Plantfinder gives "transsivanica" and I used always two "s"and "y", because I learned so long ago.
What's in a name, I am a happy gardener. :D :D :D
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Well Kathrine I think we should it leave to the taxonomists.
Plantfinder gives "transsivanica" and I used always two "s"and "y", because I learned so long ago.
What's in a name, I am a happy gardener. :D :D :D
But it wasn't named by a taxonomist. It was named by the nursery (van Tubergen of the Netherlands) who introduced it, and is not a recognised species or sub-species, just an informal garden name, so has no real taxonomic blessing.
I imagine it must have been named using a Dutch spelling of Transylvania, which is unfortunate as I think we'd all agree it would be best if plants were named after people and places using the spelling that person or place uses rather than some other local spelling (out of respect, and to maintain uniformity in naming around the world). Unfortunately we're now stuck with various spellings in literature going back nearly 100 years.
I'm sure no-one means any disrespect to your home region, Kathrine, and a name is important if it's yours or your country's (I'm sure at least some forumist might be a little annoyed by someone who insisted on spelling Scotland Scottland). I personally use 'transylvanica' since there's been much confusion over the spelling in the past and I thought I might as well use the correct geographical name rather than pick one of the various informal names you find in catalogues. :)
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I'm sure no-one means any disrespect to your home region, Kathrine,
Never thought of that. :) Every time I see something that I knew otherwise, I become curious what was the thruth. ;D
So, sorry, Luit for "correcting" you, now I think you have also right, as I said, it was called in many ways.
But I agree with
it would be best if plants were named after people and places using the spelling that person or place uses rather than some other local spelling
So I will call it transylvanica, but won't be huffy (never was) if you call it transsylvanica. ;)
The End.
;D
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Luit,
Fringed tulips now are very popular and admired by growers in Russia. I also enjoy them, but prefer more other divisions, as fringed tulips are mostly small-flowered and more succeptable to colour-breaking-virus, than others.
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I was born in Transylvania
Cool 8). but, as alpine gardeners, we are all "children of the light" not "children of the night". ;)
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But it wasn't named by a taxonomist. It was named by the nursery (van Tubergen of the Netherlands) who introduced it, and is not a recognised species or sub-species, just an informal garden name, so has no real taxonomic blessing.
Until reading this thread I had always used "transylvanica" which would be correct if this was a specific epithet (which I assumed it was). However, looking around, "transsilvanica" seems to be used commonly in the UK. If this is the original form of the name bestowed on the plant by van Tubergen then surely we should stick to it.
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Until reading this thread I had always used "transylvanica" which would be correct if this was a specific epithet (which I assumed it was). However, looking around, "transsilvanica" seems to be used commonly in the UK. If this is the original form of the name bestowed on the plant by van Tubergen then surely we should stick to it.
Strictly speaking we shouldn't be using any Latinised name for what is a garden name, not a species or sub-species. Van Tubergen named it as a sub-species of solida, transsylvanica, but it wasn't accepted as a sub-species. And under the International Rules of Nomenclature, you can't use the Latinised 'Transsylvanica' as a garden cultivar name.
The original name in V.Tubergen's catalogue was transsylvanica, which has since translated in various catalogues to transsilvanica, transilvanica, transylvanica, transsylvanica. How do you decide what to do? Use the correct geographical name or the false species name that V. Tubergen shouldn't have given the plant in the first place? I guess the important thing is that everyone knows what you mean even if the spellings are a bit variable. There are cases of original names being changed later (actual genuine species names) where the spelling was later found not to be the correct name - e.g. Crocus tommasinianus, which was previously wrongly spelled for many years with just one 'm'. It's a bit like that old thing of asking for directions (how do we get to where we should be?) only to be told "well, I wouldn't start from here" ! :)
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Hello all,
Kathrine and I were talking about HEPATICA trans(s)ylvanica which is an old name and has been for long time also called Hepatica angulosa.
I don’t think van Tubergen gave this Hepatica ever a name.
The author of
Hep. transsilvanica is M. Fuss (He gave this name in 1848)
Hep. transsylvanica is J. Heuffel
Hep. angulosa is ( Lam.) DC
I can understand that this is not the right name because Lamarck received a flower of Hepatica triloba together with the leaf of a Cortusa matthioli and so gave it this wrong name.
Kathrine, this story is to read in:Magyar növeny lapok VII, pp. 146, 1883.
Since 1851 the authors of Hep. angulosa were Schott & Kotschy .
About the naming of Corydalis solida trans… I know nothing at this moment.
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This is getting confusing.
Like Luit & Kathrine, I was talking about Hepatica. One author I looked at (Myers, AGS Bull. 58(2), 144) refers to H.transsilvanica Fuss. Is this no longer an accepted name? According to W.T. Stearn the correct geographical epithet would be 'transylvanica' from Transylvania.
Martyn, Were you talking about Hepatica or Corydalis?
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Hello all,
Kathrine and I were talking about HEPATICA trans(s)ylvanica which is an old name and has been for long time also called Hepatica angulosa.
I don’t think van Tubergen gave this Hepatica ever a name.
Oops!! You're right of course, Luit!! I took an interest halfway through your discussion with Kathrine, when you were both just discussing the name 'transsylvanica' versus 'transylvanica' without mentioning the genus. And for some reason I thought you were discussing the corydalis! Mea culpa! Perhaps it was because I saw pics from you of corydalis from the flower show.
Even with an accepted species name like Hepatica transsylvanica, though, it's still an interesting point whether the spelling should be the original "incorrect" name for the region (according to how the local people spell it) or the more "correct" spelling as used by the local people. As I mentioned Crocus tommasinianus before, where the name was correctly applied taxanomically and long-established, but was still changed to "mm" because the spelling was not how the man spelled his name.
Anyway, I have caused enough confusion for one day, so I'll shut up now. :-[
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Martin, this discussion evidently confused me about your name as well. My apologies!
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Martin, this discussion evidently confused me about your name as well. My apologies!
No problem, Gerry. My confusion was much greater. :D
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Luit,
The Chionoscilla is rather interesting, but those Corydalis solida are stunning. What a colour range!! And imagine what other colour combination would occur if you then crossed those carefully together!!? Wonderful pics!! Thanks for posting.
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Luit,
great treat. Please continoue ;)
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Today there were not so many entries.
Almost impossible to bring something from outside in this weather.
So the few I show are from indoor cultivation, except for the
flowers of the Narcissus which were picked from outside.
Tulipa Bolroy Moon
Tulipa American Embassy
Hippeastrum Picotee
Disporum megalanthum 1
Disporum megalanthum 2
Narcissus Englander 1
Narcissus Englander 2
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The Disporum would be my favourite from the recent batches.
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I don't think I've seen a Disporum that produces terminal tufts of flowers on branches like that. Very nice!! :)
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From this week's show:
First a Narcissus not found correct by the Narcissus Committee.
but I liked it:
Narcissus [as] Longwith ?
A Corydalis with yellow leaves
Corydalis Berry Exciting 1
Corydalis Berry Exciting 2
Podophyllum difforme leaf
Hippeastrum vittatum
And a Tulip which some will not like :-\ ;D
Tulipa Elsenburg
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In the second batch some historical Narcissi:
Narcissus Argent
Narcissus Bath's Flame
Narcissus Butter and Eggs 1
Narcissus Butter and Eggs 2
Narcissus Feu de Joie [-] (probably right)
Narcissus Mrs. Langtry
Narcissus Twink
Narcissus Victoria
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I'm not at all sure about that yellow-leaved Corydalis. Is it a seedling from C. flexuosa `Blackberry?' It makes a few seedlings in my garden so I suppose if a yellow-leaved form showed up I'd grow it on but..... :-\
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Great pics as always!! I rather like the yellow leaf Corydalis, but I love the Podophyllum!! Glorious leaf!!
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I love Narcissus, but I can only wonder how any of the last batch made it into commerce. Some of them are quite dreadful.
Luit
You were right about the tulip - hideous
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Arthur,
Because at the time they were released there were only REALLY basic ones, unlike the wonderful array we have now. At the time they were probably oohing and aahing over them just like we do over the new forms now! ;D It's all in the perspective!! :D
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Arthur,
Because at the time they were released there were only REALLY basic ones, unlike the wonderful array we have now. At the time they were probably oohing and aahing over them just like we do over the new forms now! ;D It's all in the perspective!! :D
Thank you Paul.
Arthur, these are Narcissus of between 100+ and 300 years old!
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Luit
I did not recognise historical as meaning between 100 and 300 years old. Clearly they were startlingly different from the norm, and as we say "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Thank goodness we do have different opinions or the world would be a dull place.
Modern varieties are generally so much better, although I think there is a tendency for many to look very similar - a problem I struggle with when looking at Snowdrops.
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Strangely, although in general I dislike double daffodils, I find that Argent and Feu de Joie have a certain elegance - perhaps because they have a looser, freer (is that a word?) style and not so stiff as the modern ones.
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although I think there is a tendency for many to look very similar - a problem I struggle with when looking at Snowdrops.
Don't we all? ;D
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Luit,
thank you for the "historical" ones. "Bath Flame" attracts me - the pedals have the character like wings of a wind mill.
The "split coronas"...These poor X-rayed "creatures" look like escaped from a cruelty cabinet :o :'(
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Yesterday was a special Narcissus show at Lisse:
I show the ones I could easy reach to make pictures.
Sometimes when the sun was shining the blinds were closed and the light got very bad to photograph flowers and the quality is not my standard (to use Mark's words) ??? 8), but I show them nevertheless.
Narcissus Nr. 2..07
Narcissus Akita 1
Narcissus Akita 2
Narcissus Canary Bird
Narcissus Citroën
Narcissus Egmont Charm
Narcissus Egmont Charm 2
Narcissus White Medal
Narcissus Yellow River
Narcissus Collins Joy
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Narcissus Double Smiles
Narcissus Golden Reaal
some historical Narcissus:
Narcissus [hist.] barrii Conspicuus
Narcissus [hist.] Croesus
Narcissus [hist.] Seagull
Narcissus [hist.] White Lady
Some Mini Narcissus in one picture:
On top from left:
Segovia, Dainty Miss, Yellow Xit.
Middle row, from left:
obvallaris, Sundia, l Kenellis, jonquilla Simplex.
Below from left:
Little Gem, Julia Jane, Mite.
Then a special Tulipa for those who like it:
Tulipa Queensland
And two Dutch Irises:
Iris holl. Silver Beauty
Iris holl. Tiger Eye
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Finally there were a group with Fritillaria in vases (in a dark spot.)
Fritillaria Group
and
Asarum maxima
Disporum flavens
several Erythronium
Erythronium revolutum Johnsonii
Erythronium revolutum Johnsonii x E. White Beauty Seedlings
An Anemone send in as A. eranthoides, but probably A. petiolulosa
Anemone erantoides or A. petiolulosa
And a beautiful wild Hippeastrum
Hippeastrum equestre 1
Hippeastrum equestre 2
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A most interesting yellow Anemone Luit. Do you know anything about it?
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Luit,
thanks for your pics.
I like that Dutch Iris "Tiger eye"; do you know if it's a new variety? I've not seen anything like it before.
cheers
fermi
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I like that Dutch Iris "Tiger eye";
Very interesting! And a very good name! ;D
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Fermi,
That one caught my eye as well. Stunning colour. The group of hybrid Erythroniums are pretty special too, particularly that one on the left with the dark flower, yellow throat and glorious leaves. I really MUST try to get some hybrid or open pollinated Erythronium seed from overseas, just to see what eventuates. Would be wonderful to find interesting colour blends and the like.
Fantastic pics as always Luit. A real joy to view them!! 8)
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Lesley, the only thing what I know is that it has rhizomes, a bit like A. nemorosa.
As it is a wild plant, so seed would also be possible.
and I am sure now that it is not A. eranthoides
Fermi, maybe the name changed. There was an Iris Eye of the Tiger, which looked
like this one.
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Luit,
super pictures.
Very enjoying to see a wild Hippeastrum in comparison to my own red hybrids.
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Today there was again a special Narcissus show and also there was a collection of Muscari.
Of Muscari I want to show a nice presentation of several Muscari mixed with Helleborus flowers in a vase.
Muscari mixed with Helleborus
Narcissus White Peeping Tom
Narcissus Border Light
Narcissus Ambergate
Narcissus Babyboomer
Narcissus Gay Song
Narcissus Maja Sun
Narcissus Gay Challenger
Narcissus Roulette
Finally I want to show a picture of the Garden of the Royal Bulbgrowers Society, where the several Bulb Committees
come once or twice a week together to judge samples, send in by growers or traders.
Collection and Sample Garden of the KAVB
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That blue and greeny combination of Muscari and Hellebore is so pretty.
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Today's show brought some surprises. One of them was a vase with
Dahlia Siberia which were forced to flower for next Sunday (Mothersday).
further we saw Hermodactylus tuberosus and there were several Tulipa mutations,
with some artistic flair.
Dahlia Siberia
Hermodactylus tuberosus
Tulipa Yellow Crown [mut. 1]
Tulipa Yellow Crown [mut. 2]
Tulipa Yellow Crown [mut. 3]
Tulipa Negritta [mut.]
Tulipa Dynasty [mut.]
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Then there were some Fritillaria and I picked one pot out of several
Narcissus bulbocodium selections from hybridizer Walter Blom in USA.
I made a pict. of the bulbs in the pot to show how rich these relatively small bulbs flower.
Flowers picked from a small Muscari and several other plants,
thought being of interest to the Forum.
Fritillaria reuteri
Fritillaria sibthorpiana
Narcissus bulbocodium Apollo Gold 2
Narcissus bulbocodium Apollo Gold 3
Muscari Maxabel
Tulipa Triumph Group Prinz Armin
Iris holl. Lion King
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Thanks, Luit, more gems from Lisse.
Hermodactylus tuberosus is a real favourite of mine... love the colour and the scent.
Such a good Fritillaria reuteri....till now I thought all the best forms were in Gothenburg!!
I think our own Armin must try to get some of these Tulipa Triumph Group Prinz Armin don't you agree? ;)
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Luit, what is the surface of the pots in the above 3 pics (The frits and the Muscari)? The flowers look as if they've been picked and are sitting in some sort of water-retentive medium Are they growing bulbs or picked stems?
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Maggi, actually when I took the picture I was thinking, I might upgrade the Forum
with some Royalty... and our Armin seemed the right man for this. ;D 8)
Lesley, these weekly shows are mainly for growers or traders to show their products
and novelties, so what you see will only probably be obtainable in future.
As you will know as a seller of plants the trade will only pick up some novelty when they
believe it being a good seller.
You cannot compare this with the AGS or SRGC shows.
And this place is a Tradecenter.
So most flowers are picked.
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Luit,
Great pics as always. Love those Frits, and that Muscari looks pretty special as well. Some of the tulips are interesting (while others aren't! ::) ;D). Must be good to see all of these things at the flowershow each week. As I've said before, thanks so much for showing them to us. 8)
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Some of the tulips are interesting (while others aren't!
Paul I agree with you, I just liked the mutation of T. Dynasty. And the other ones....... ??? ::) ??,
well I'm just reporting to show what's going on.
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Thank you Luit. The flowers are beautifully displayed.
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Maggi, actually when I took the picture I was thinking, I might upgrade the Forum
with some Royalty... and our Armin seemed the right man for this. ;D 8)
Maggi,
indeed when I saw this tulip I got fascinated. ;D
Luit,
I hope you don't you want me :o to pay any royalities?
brgds
Prince Armin
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I hope you don't you want me to pay any royalities?
brgds
Prince Armin
maybe some rubies, "Your Highness" ? ;D ;D 8)
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Sir Luit,
here is your ruby! >:(
A giant one! ;D ::) ;)
Your Prince
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;D ;D :D 8)
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This Monday not so many entries but a grower showed some unnamed
selections of Fritillaria persica.
There was so little light in the hall and not having a tripod there,
the pictures are not so very good.
Fritillaria persica sel 1a
Fritillaria persica sel 1c
Fritillaria persica sel 2a
Fritillaria persica sel 3a
Fritillaria persica sel 3b
Fritillaria persica sel 4a
Fritillaria persica sel 4b
Fritillaria persica sel. 5
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One grower showed the most black tulip until now and there were the first Paeonia in the show.
Tulipa black
Paeonia Henri Bockstoce 1
Paeonia Henri Bockstoce 2
Note: These Paeonia flowers are real flowers.
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Superb F. persica Luit. So many forms and even DOUBLES! And that's a tulip I could really fall for. :P :P 8)
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Really exciting! I wish I had them all. Does the grower also sell them? ;D
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A really super black tulip... this will be hugely popular, I am sure.
What a great selection of Fritllaria persica forms...... Ian will like these large stems of flowers 8)
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Really exciting! I wish I had them all. Does the grower also sell them? ;D
Arne, the good ones will come on the market, I'm sure.
Don't know when.
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Luit,
Fritillaria persica cultivars are just increadibly stunning!!! Smashing show-stoppers!
Black tulip looks interesting. There are many, so called, new 'black' tulips offered in trade, but, unfortunately, all have small flowers. I grow the tallest "Queen of Night" and don't get another 'black' variety until I make sure that it has considerably larger flowers than "Queen of Night". Though I have a good substitude for 'black' tulips - near-black "Bucchus", which is tall, large-flowered, extremely good encreaser and virus-resistant.
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I didn't know where to post these pics, but decided that maybe here it'll be relivant to do. My hippestrum "Mont Blanc' blooms every year very abundantly and shocks everybody by the beauty of its huge white booms. I post some pics for you to enjoy with me.
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Those are certainly stunning blooms Zhirair. :)
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Today it was a very interesting show.
There were many entries with Hosta and Heuchera,
but they were difficult to photograph with closed blinds.
Therefore I only show the flowering bulbous plants.
Some pictures are not to good (alas no tripod) but I show them
because they are not to often seen on shows here.
Lilium martagon Album 1
Lilium martagon Album 2
Lilium martagon Hybr.
Lilium mart. Manitoba Morning
Lilium pumilum 1
Lilium pumilum 2
Lilium Twinkle Hybr. [Tiger Hybr.] Mixed
Lilium Twinkle Hybr. [Tiger Hybr.]
Scilla litardierei
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I forgot to mention that there wera a whole sieries of Lilium martagon Hybrids,
but the pictures I made were rubbish. sorry.
Iris xiphium (from seed ex Pyrenees)
Iris holl. Innocent
Iris paradoxa f. Goschab (from seed ex. E. Pasche)
Lilium Backhouse
Lilium Gizmo
Lilium tsingtauense
Lilium hansonii
Iris cycloglossa
Allium Chamaeleon
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Smashing pictures Luit. I liked the Lilium martagons (having had three 'no shows' with some bulbs I bought) and I also liked the Dutch Iris 'Innocent'-very nice.
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Beautiful show Luit - as you mentioned yourself, very interesting :D
Makes a change after the "Tulipitis" you gave us all... ;D ;D
Mind you, "Tulipitis" is to be considered a very agreable infection... ;D
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Mind you, "Tulipitis" is to be considered a very agreable infection... ;D
A, B, or V. ? ;D
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I like that Allium, especially.
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Luit some very nice plants they showed was it not.
I liked them all :o 8).
Kind regards
Joakim
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Thank you for your comments!
This week I noted the following plants at the show:
Calochortus 1
Calochortus 2
Iris holl. Cream Beauty
Iris holl. Discovery
Paeonia lact. Wite Cap
Lilium mart. Orange Marmelade Fox
Ixia Jesse
Iris holl. Mystic Beauty 1
Iris holl. Mystic Beauty 2
Iris holl. Oriental Beauty
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Lvandelft!
Unusually beautiful Allium Chamaeleon and Lilium Orange Marmelade!! :D
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Luit, that Lilium 'Orange Marmalade' has Lilium tsingtauense in its background, doesn't it?
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I just got back from a quick tour of the garden: Iris 'Oriental Beauty' is blooming here today, too.
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Luit, that Lilium 'Orange Marmalade' has Lilium tsingtauense in its background, doesn't it?
Yes, I found it's a L. xdalhansonii x tsingtauense.
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Today there was a special day for Iris and Allium in and around the Showhall.
There were many entries and of Iris I chose to make pictures of Iris barbata,
though there were a mass of Iris hollandica too, but I had to make a choice.
First the Iris:
Iris barbata Amethyst Flame
Iris barbata Burgermeister
Iris barbata Edith Woolford
Iris barbata Far Galaxies
Iris barbata Money Maker
Iris barbata Paradise
Iris barbata Penny and Pinch
Iris barbata Pinnacle
Iris barbata Royal Satin
Iris barbata Sultan's Palace
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There was one entry with Paeonia and then followed by Allium,
many of them possibly useful for small gardens:
Paeonia Ping Pom Pom
Allium overview
Allium amphibolum
Allium amplectens white sel.
Allium atropurpureum 1
Allium atropurpureum 2
Allium caesium Zaamin 1
Allium caesium Zaamin 2
Allium carolinianum
Allium Ambassador
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the next batch:
Allium cernuum dwarf form white 1
Allium cernuum dwarf form white 2
Allium cernuum Mix 1
Allium cernuum Mix 2
Allium cneorum [ fr. Alaska] 1
Allium cneorum [ fr. Alaska] 2
Allium convallarioides pink sel.
Allium Firmament
Allium jajlae
Allium litwinovii
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Allium obliquum 1
Allium obliquum 2
Allium maximowiczii + maximowiczii White
Allium moly
Allium pallasii
Allium przewalskianum
Allium rosenbachianum Kwakense 1
Allium rosenbachianum Kwakense 2
Allium oreophyllum Agalik's Giant
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And the last batch:
Allium sarawschanicum
Allium pseudo-sarawschanicum
Allium schoenophrasum
Allium unifolium
Allium unifolium sel. 1
Allium unifolium sel. 2
Allium unifolium Chris Dwarp 1
Allium unifolium Chris Dwarp 2
Allium Utopia
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I must not let Ian see these Allium... he will want to grow them all !
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He's the bulb despot! He doesn't have them all already???
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No, Carlo, he only has a few Allium.... meantime!!
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Luit, these pictures are really whetting my appetite for even more alliums. There are already plenty of them growing in my garden, but you are showing some which I have never seen.
Blooming here now is A. obliquum, a particular favorite, and so too is the white flowered form of A. maximowiczii.
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What an incredible collection of alliums. I never imagined there were so many. Janis Ruksans must have had something to do with the introduction of many, judging from his recent book.
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I am not a specail lover of alliums, but believe me, I was extremely fascinated with pics showed. Fantastic!
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Some pictures from this week, Paeonia and Iris barbata were over already.
Alstroemeria aurea
Alstroemeria aurea Orange King
Iris hollandica Berwick
Iris hollandica Royal Aberdeen
Iris hollandica Golden Beauty
Iris hollandica Eros
Iris hollandica Murfield
Iris hollandica Hirono
Iris hollandica Purple Rock
Iris hollandica Vilamoura
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and one Ixia:
Ixia Blauwe Vogel
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Luit
You saved the best until last.
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I like Iris hollandica Hirono!
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From today's show some interesting flowers:
Allium chrysocephalum
Allium neriniflorum
Alstroemeria aurea Lutea
Alstroemeria aurea Splendens
Allium vineale Hair
Triteleia Ellen
Alstroemeria Dandy Candy Hybr. 1
Alstroemeria Dandy Candy Hybr. 2
Alstroemeria Dandy Candy rood
Haemanthus hirsutus Pretoria Form
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Love the Allium veneale 'Hair' but I guess all those little bulbils will fall off to colonize one's best bit of garden?
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Last week I was visiting a friend who lives in the country and rents her fields to local farmers. Evidently the farmers had used herbicide on the fields: most broad leaf plants in the fields showed obvious herbicide damage. But standing tall and seemingly utterly unscathed were hundreds, maybe thousands, of Allium vineale. The clusters of bulbils glowed a soft garnet in the sun and made a nice contrast with the leaves sprouting from them. It was tempting to pick out the ones which in the old days might have appeared on lists as comosum, comatum, hirsitum, polytrichum, villosum, capillosum, dasycephalum, caput-medusae, jubatum, pilosum and so on: telling them apart would be very hairy. ;)
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This week we saw a nice collection of modern Triteleia and a good form
of Brodiaea californica:
Brodiaea californica Babylon 1
Brodiaea californica Babylon 2
Triteleia Ocean Queen
Triteleia Silver Queen
Triteleia Purple Princess 1
Triteleia Purple Princess 2
Triteleia Blue Star 1
Triteleia Blue Star 2
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Yesterday at the show:
Of the Allium I found the stem more impressive than the flower.
Of the Calochortus some pictures are taken at my house, because the
exhibitor left some spare flowers, so we do have a wonderful bunch in a vase now.
Allium psekimense
Allium psekimense 1
Allium psekimense 2
Calochortus
Calochortus 1
Calochortus 2
Calochortus Golden Orb
(Which is actually a good dark stable seed strain of C. luteus.)
Calochortus Violet Queen
Calochortus Superbus
Calochortus 3
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Beautiful Calochortus, I have yet to see one I don't like.
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Beautiful Calochortus, I have yet to see one I don't like.
I just had to check it was you who said that, David.....it could so easily have been the Calochortus King.... David King, formerly of Sheffield and now of Perthshire! He adores them too... well, why wouldn't you?
How glamorous to have them as cut flowers! 8)
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Is that the same David King who wrote the Frit. section in 'Bulbs of North America'? Incidentally the aforementioned book is excellent with a very useful section on Calochortus. I picked it up from an USA bookshop on the Abe Books Web Site for $2.50 plus a couple of $'s p and p
'Bulbs of North America' Edited by Jane McGary, published by NARGS
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Is that the same David King who wrote the Frit. section in 'Bulbs of North America'?
Yes, that's the chap!
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They certainly are beautiful and worth growing from seed supplied by someone like Ron Ratko who collects over a wide area and so gets plenty of variation within each species.
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:o :o as so many others Luit, I adore the Calochortus too !
Thanks for showing them and let us know how long they keep in the vase !
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Wonderful Calocorthus pics... thank you. They don't do well in my garden. Probably my summer is now warm enough.
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:o :o as so many others Luit, I adore the Calochortus too !
Thanks for showing them and let us know how long they keep in the vase !
Luc, I can say that we today the whole bunch threw away.
All the buds were opening day after day and I was very surprised.
Yesterday I counted still 30 open flowers on app. 15 stems!
Today, the flowers I pictured last week in the Show Room were still there and o.k.,
but there is a constant temp. of 15 C.
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This week there is a big exhibition of Agapanthus in the Show Hall.
I found the first pictured A. Sofie very special innovation, because of the
very dark blue flowers and the compact inflorescence, which will be very
welcome for cutflower production.
And another S. African Chasmanthe which still awaits a break-through
in cultivation and trade was showed too.
Agapanthus Sofie
Agapanthus Bluety
Agapanthus Lilliput
Agapanthus Paris
Chasmanthe floribunda var. duckittii
Chasmanthe floribunda var. duckittii 2
Chasmanthe floribunda
Chasmanthe floribunda 2
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Today was special show for Gladiolus.
The old Gl. nanus Prins Claus was one of a few nanus cvs.
The others were newer hybrids.
All cultivars were judged by the Gladiolus Committee of the KAVB.
Here some pictures:
Gladiolus nanus Prins Claus
Gladiolus mixed
Gladiolus pink seedling
Gladiolus Ollanda
Gladiolus Sunglow
Gladiolus seedl.
Gladiolus Soul
Gladiolus Mariangel
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I think these are beautiful and I have bought 3 vars myself, this year, 'Charm,' 'Halley' and 'Mirella' but I think it's a shame the newer forms are looking less and less like the original species and more and more like the bigger, "Dame Edna" kinds. It would be really good to have the colours in the older, more delicate-looking form.
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I agree, Lesley,
it would be nice if someone did some more "close to species" gladdie breeding ( no offence, Aunty Edna!).
The G. nanus Prins Claus looks like what goes around here by the name "Nymph" or am I confusing it with something else?
Thanks for all the pics, Luit.
cheers
fermi
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The ones closer to the species type are very beautiful, but I must confess a sneaking admiration for the big border types, too.... hurray for Dame Edna popularising these showy giants!
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Since we can grow gladiolus without lifting them in the winter I have bought some. The Big ones are nice to have as cutflowers and in the right place they are nicely dramatic in the garden. I also bought a smaller one and it was very nice. So I think both types have their purpose.
I am impressed by the different agapanthus. To me there is only two kinds white and blue and they are are borderline on weed in Portugal while in Sweden they are treasures that get shelter every winter and new and bigger pots. I would have hoped that they different variety would come to Portugal as well so that we could enjoy some more variants.
Luit it is interesting to see this as it might be the future we see already today so thanks for showing it to us. 8) :o
Kind regards
Joakim
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Luit it is interesting to see this as it might be the future we see already today so thanks for showing it to us.
Kind regards
Joakim
Joakim, I think this is very true.... so many of the super varieties which Luit shows us are probably the very first time these flowers have been seen by the public in such a way.... very exciting indeed! 8) :D
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The G. nanus Prins Claus looks like what goes around here by the name "Nymph" or am I confusing it with something else?
Thanks for all the pics, Luit.
cheers
fermi
Fermi, in the description I read that G. 'Prins Claus' has clear white flowers with
fuchsia markings on the lower tepals.
G. 'Nymph' is similar, but the spear-shaped markings have a white centre.
Here are two detail pictures:
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Normally I like the small Gladiolus more than the big ones, but that's maybe more because I have worked with the big ones (cutting the flowers) for many years when I was young.
I remember they were always heavy and often wet early in the morning or when raining.
But when I see the improvement in form and shape I am impressed.
There were many more I could have shown but they were impossible to photograph
standing against the windows of the Hall.
I showed one vase with the Pink seedling, then you see what I mean.
This Cultivar was really beautiful, but impossible to show you what I saw.
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Fermi, in the description I read that G. 'Prins Claus' has clear white flowers with
fuchsia markings on the lower tepals.
G. 'Nymph' is similar, but the spear-shaped markings have a white centre.
Thank you, Luit,
That clears that up. I just need to remember this for when they flower over here!
cheers
fermi
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Yesterday was Gladiolus Day again at the show.
Here some pictures of the bigger ones:
Gladiolus 1
Gladiolus 2
Gladiolus 6
Gladiolus 3
Gladiolus 4
Gladiolus 5
Gladiolus Tineke
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And there were also some smallflowered ones to see:
Gladiolus 7
Gladiolus Flevo Dancer
Gladiolus Flevo Laguna
Gladiolus Flevo Smile
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But there was more to see:
Dahlia ass.
Echinacea Mix
Leucocoryne Blue Ocean + overview
Leucocoryne Dione 1
Leucocoryne Dione 2
Leucocoryne White Dream
Leucocoryne Spotlight 2
Leucocoryne Spotlight
Leucocoryne Sunny Stripe 1
Leucocoryne Sunny Stripe 2
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Luit it is a great treat to have this lovely flowers to look at.
I liked the small flowered gladiolus and the Echinacea mix the most. Nice varieties and a lot more than what I normally see.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Luit
Thank you for continuing to provide us with wonderful flowers. Have not seen Leucoryne before and did not realise they were so varied.
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This week the Showhall was filled with mostly Gladiolus.
I show just a few smallflowered ones.
Interesting is to see the development in Coreopsis. In the USA is a breeder
trying to make other colours using annual and perennial ones.
In the mixed bunch are already some reasonably hardy ones.
Then one exhibitor showed several Crocosmia.
Gladiolus small 1
Gladiolus small 2
Gladiolus small 3
Coreopsis Salsa Series
Ajuga reptans Arctic Fox
Crocosmia 1
Crocosmia 2
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And there was one bouquet with the South African Babiana.
On my way home I saw a field where they were cultivated.
Here is a part of the field. Other colours were just starting to flower.
Babiana stricta
Babiana field
Babiana
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Thank you Luit. Oh I do like those Babianas.
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Thank you Luit. Oh I do like those Babianas.
So do I , David, the colour range is lovely. The varieties of Coreopsis are so cheery, too...hard to beat a good daisy, isn't it?
Luit, great that you show us the fields of Babiana to match as well.... 8) The views must make your travel all the more pleasant, eh?
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I love the Ajuga 'Arctic Fox,' but here I find it burns very easily and has to be grown in full shade, or else watered daily through the summer.
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Luit, great that you show us the fields of Babiana to match as well.... 8) The views must make your travel all the more pleasant, eh?
Several times a week a make a cycling tour through our area and take a pocket camera with me.
Beginning of July I saw this field with Freesia and this week I took a picture again.
The smell of this field is enormous.
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Oh, my word! I can only imagine the wonderful fragrance..... I would LOVE to experience that scent for real. Delicious! I could not cycle past, that, Luit, I'd have to sit down and just enjoy. Thank goodness for your pocket camera!
I believe that it is a recognised medical fact that some people, who are able to receive other scents perfectly well, are totally unable to know the scent of Freesia.... poor souls, they have my deep sympathy. Of course there are some people ( I'm thinking about you, here, Jean) who have no sense of smell but the ones I am speaking about can smell all other scents, sweet or sour, whatever, but cannot distinguish ANY scent from Freesias!! :o
Mind you, i have thought myself that nowadays some florists' freesias are less fragrant than they used to be... I suppose this is a result of certain breeding strains, like in roses which lost a lot of scent over the years. I am more than pleased to learn that there still exist such colourful fields of pure scent to delight our senses.
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Maggi, this place is only less than 1 Km. from our place and when the wind has the
right direction, we sit in the garden (or work ;D ) and enjoy the smell for hours!
It is really a smell which is so sweet and not agressive like Hyacinths. Smelling H. for hours leaves you with a strong headache. ::) ::) ;)
The biggest part of the field is under fleece or something likely, and I am still puzzling why.
They are in full flower and I presume it is against viruses or they let them self pollinate to
keep clean colour strains.
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Luit, does Vroni need a housemaid, by any chance ? ::) :D ;D
I know my own house is untidy, but for a few hours scenting outside each day, then I could really do good work for her!
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Luit, does Vroni need a housemaid, by any chance ? ::) :D ;D
I know my own house is untidy, but for a few hours scenting outside each day, then I could really do good work for her!
Maggi, Vroni said for such a good help she always has a spare room!
But I personally doubt if you would be of good help inside, when scenting outside ;D ;D ;D .
Nevertheless outside is always some gardeningwork available.... ;)
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Luit, you know me too well! ::)
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The Freesia fields look wonderful - I suppose it would make the grower angry if I went and rolled around in it like a cat with catmint??? ;D
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Depends if you can purr provocatively at the same time Anne ... ? ;)
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I can purr, Cliff!! Just a piece of trivia I thought I'd share. ;D
Luit,
Fantastic pics as always. The freesia fields are simply stunning. I can only imagine the perfume!
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I can purr, Cliff!! Just a piece of trivia I thought I'd share. ;D
Would that be 'purr ... spire' Paul?
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Nah, I was thinking more that it was 'purr...fect' Cliff! ;)
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Some pictures of plants shown this week:
Eucomis Lotte 1
Eucomis Lotte 2
Eucomis comosa Red Stem Type
Eucomis pole-evansii
Seldom seen here, but probably because Lycoris seem to flower rarely in culture:
Lycoris aurea
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Super looking Eucomis 'Lotte' Luit, a nice sheen to the flowers.
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Super photos, Luit.
I bought a couple of a red/burgundy leaved Eucomis and they have grown well but the leaves, which I was surprised at the length of ( they must be around 75cms at least) have been badly battered by the fierce gusting winds we have had lately. I just hope there is enough strength in them still to feed up the plants some more before winter.
The Lycoris is a great colour... have not seen that shade before.
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The Lycoris is a great colour... have not seen that shade before.
This week I heard, that it might possibly Lycoris traubii.
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This week there were many Lilium on the show, but I made my choice
for Dahlia, because it is their time of flowering now.
And again on show Bessera, with their elegant flowers.
Finally a nice pot with Sternbergia.
Bessera elegans
Dahlia Créme de la Créme
Dahlia Geerling's Sorbet
Dahlia Ginger Snap
Dahlia Orange Head
Dahlia Pugsley
Dahlia Purple Pearl
Dahlia Silver City
Sternbergia sicula Arcadian Sun
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Beautiful images yet again, Luit. Our thanks once more.
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Luit
Thanks for continuing to bring us these beautiful images.
What a wonderful pot of sternbergia. :)
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Luit, the images from Lisse never cease to amaze and delight me!
The Bessera flowers are so elegant but my eye was also taken by the clever way of holding them in the vase... effective and attractive... a good tip there for displaying flowers with "thin" stems .
The dahlias are perfect for this time...... the names are as good as the flowers, I think, lots of fun with some of them... but.... I really think that here in Aberdeen, "the silver city by the grey north sea"... we SHOULD be growing 'Silver City' 8) ;D 8)
Super pot of Sternbergia...I love these though I am always puzzled by the naming of these bulbs... I am following closely the photos and names given in the Sternbergia thread.......sadly sometimes they are all just pretty yellowbulbs... I must do more work to learn this bulb's "life" !! ::) :-[ :-\
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The dahlias are perfect for this time...... the names are as good as the flowers, I think, lots of fun with some of them... but.... I really think that here in Aberdeen, "the silver city by the grey north sea"... we SHOULD be growing 'Silver City' 8) ;D 8)
Maggi,
I read that in UK Dahlia's are rather popular, so I thought maybe "Silver City" was first raised in Scotland.
But it seems that this one is raised by a certain Rev Brother Simplicius, Leicester UK. in 1969.
He was certainly impressed by the city of Aberdeen... :D
It's always so interesting to know some backgrounds of a plant.
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The dahlias are perfect for this time...... the names are as good as the flowers, I think, lots of fun with some of them... but.... I really think that here in Aberdeen, "the silver city by the grey north sea"... we SHOULD be growing 'Silver City' 8) ;D 8)
Maggi,
I read that in UK Dahlia's are rather popular, so I thought maybe "Silver City" was first raised in Scotland.
But it seems that this one is raised by a certain Rev Brother Simplicius, Leicester UK. in 1969.
He was certainly impressed by the city of Aberdeen... :D
It's always so interesting to know some backgrounds of a plant.
I think it's more likely that, as it was raised in Leicester, the dahlia was named for the city of Leicester which historically was a major centre for silver working with a high concentration of silversmiths working in the city and one of its most historical street named Silver Street.
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Here's a closer look at Bessera elegans, which began blooming here in Maryland today.
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Super pot of Sternbergia...I love these though I am always puzzled by the naming of these bulbs... I am following closely the photos and names given in the Sternbergia thread.......sadly sometimes they are all just pretty yellowbulbs... I must do more work to learn this bulb's "life" !! ::) :-[ :-\
Maggi, where is the Sternbergia thread? I have several pots here with dubious names - I can use some help here!
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Jim, Sternbergia thread is here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1208.60
Really coveting a Bessera - will have a word with Big John Amand, I think, he had some last year ::)
Martin, I expect you are correct, though when you are next in Aberdeen you may dine here using Aberdeen silver and we can show you OUR Silver Street and Golden Square!! ;)
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Martin, I expect you are correct, though when you are next in Aberdeen you may dine here using Aberdeen silver and we can show you OUR Silver Street and Golden Square!! ;)
That would be why you call it the silver city by the grey North Sea then, Maggi? I did wonder. The one time I visited Aberdeen, as a kid in the early 1960s, to help hand out CND leaflets outside the football ground on a cold, wet winter's day, I have to say I don't recall it being terribly silvery! :)
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Now you are teasing me, Martin, you must know that the hometown of the Bulb Despot is famed for the sparkle and shimmer of the grey granite of its buildings ...shining silver in the sunshine and clear light of the northeast................ ::)
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I can see the need for CND leaflets at Pittodrie mind.... many folks DO think the team could do with blowin' up! ;)
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Yes, I thought it was odd to have the words 'football' and 'Aberdeen' used in the same sentence ;D
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Yes, David, the glory days of winning in Gothenburg are a LONG time ago! ;D :-X :(
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I can see the need for CND leaflets at Pittodrie mind.... many folks DO think the team could do with blowin' up! ;)
??? ???
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Luit, sorry, I will explain.... CND is the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. Aberdeen Football Club, which has had termendous success in the past, has, for some years, been really bad... thus the opinion that they might be better to be blown up, whether by using nuclear or other explosives ;)
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;D ;D ;D
Thanks Maggi!
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Maggi, where is the Sternbergia thread? I have several pots here with dubious names - I can use some help here!
Jim, here we discussed Sternbergia last year too:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=969.msg22838#msg22838 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=969.msg22838#msg22838)
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Really coveting a Bessera - will have a word with Big John Amand, I think, he had some last year
Maggi, I made last week a picture of a bed where Bessera is cultivated.
Sorry the place was a little far from the road where I was cycling, but it
gives some idea, I hope.
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Ooh! How lovely! Yes, I must try some, now that I see they are field grown... I had thought that even in the Netherlands they would be greenhouse subjects.
Thanks Luit!
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Maggi, they are cultivated like many other bulbs from the S.H..
They were planted (in April/May) next to a field with Crinum.
It's not far from me and I know the man who grows them.
Will try to have a chat with him.
Here a picture of the Crinum field.
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Oh, my word, a Crinum field! Amazing to see these... thank you for showing us these Luit!
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Today I made a visit to one of the best Dahlia breeder/growers in the Netherlands.
Here I saw again the Dahlia Silver City and I told the man what I found out about
the name and where it came from.
He was a little surprised that I knew the name of the Reverent Brother Simplicius and did
not know that Leicester was once a Silver City.
But he knew him personally because the Rev. had visited his garden in Holland and
told me he had a photo of the Brother Simplicius.
So I made a picture of it where the reverent is showing 5 Dahlia's.
He is holding 3 D. Silver City, which was described on the back of the photo.
A picture of his handwriting I show here too.
I made many pictures in the Showgarden today, which I hope to show when I
fixed them.
Dahlia Silver City
Rev. Simplicius
Rev. Simplicius backside text. (modified L.)
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Luit,
amazing fields of Bessera & Crinum. You really live in the bulb center ;D
Very interesting -Silver City- story.
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Luit, what an interesting day you had... and have then given us.... thank you.
I must say I had no idea the Silver City blooms were so BIG!!
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Luit, what an interesting day you had... and have then given us.... thank you.
I must say I had no idea the Silver City blooms were so BIG!!
Maggi, Silver City is "moderate", only between 20 and 25 cm. There are much bigger ones.
Will show some soon, I hope.
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Maggi, Silver City is "moderate", only between 20 and 25 cm. There are much bigger ones.
Will show some soon, I hope.
Moderate at 25-25cms ??!!
The huge size that Dahlia flowers can attain is astonishing to me. I konw there are very large Chrysanthemum varieties also, we usually only see these at flower shows, of course... it seems there is a fondness for the giant flower as well as the giant vegetables at these shows......such a contrast with thealpineflowers... yet many of the ancestors of these massive blooms were quite modest sized wild flowers in the beginning ...there is no chocolate under these fields is there, Luit? These flowers are from breeding not feeding!! ;) ;) ;)
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Luit, can that really be his handwriting? It seems to give his date of death.
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Luit, can that really be his handwriting? It seems to give his date of death.
Anne, at least one person who noticed my mistake. ;D
I noticed the same, when fixing my other pictures and looked at the picture
of the backside again and read mor carefully then.
Did not earlier have time today, to modify my posting.
Will do soon!
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This time it was a very interesting show!
In the first batch first some Sternbergia.
Note the twoflowered stem of St. Autumn Gold cl.
The last picture shows a plant which could be as well a St. greuteriana.
But literature is not really clear about this I heard.
Sternbergia spec. Italie
Sternbergia spec. Italie cl.
Sternbergia angustifolia
Sternbergia angustifolia cl.
Sternbergia angustifolia Autumn Gold
Sternbergia angustifolia Autumn Gold cl.
Sternbergia sicula
Sternbergia sicula ssp. graeca
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In the next batches I show a collection of Haemanthus Hybrids.
Haemanthus coll.
Haemanthus Hybr. (H. albiflos x H. coccineus) 1
Haemanthus Hybr. (H. albiflos x H. coccineus) 1a
Haemanthus Hybr. (H. albiflos x H. coccineus) 2
Haemanthus Hybr. (H. albiflos x H. coccineus) 2a
Haemanthus Hybr. (H. albiflos x H. deformis) 1
Haemanthus Hybr. (H. albiflos x H. deformis) 2
Haemanthus Hybr. (H. albiflos x H. deformis) cl.
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The last picture is a plant where the leaves are more in proportion with the whole plant.
The final goal is to develop plants with good leaves, short stems and good colours.
Haemanthus albiflos Tetraploide vorm
Haemanthus albiflos Tetraploide vorm 2
Haemanthus Hybr. 3x (H. albiflos (tetraploid) x H. coccineus) 1
Haemanthus Hybr. 3x (H. albiflos (tetraploid) x H. coccineus) 1a
Haemanthus Hybr. 3x (H. albiflos (tetraploid) x H. coccineus) 2
Haemanthus Hybr. 3x (H. albiflos (tetraploid) x H. coccineus) 2a
Haemanthus Hybride Bladstand
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Maggi, we so often seem to have "two minds with but a single thought" if not "two hearts that beat as one" because the first thing that I thought when seeing the stunning jar of Bessera, was "what a great way to hold them up and display them." I'll certainly use that method for assorted flowers with thin stems and that flop all over the place.
Somehow, a large 4-pack of duty-free Ferrero Rocher chocs found its way into my luggage on Monday!
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Wow Luit - Great Sternbergia !!!! :o
I didn't realize Holland had the long hot Summer this year to give them the baking they need to flower so profusely ??? ;D
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Wow Luit - Great Sternbergia !!!! :o
I didn't realize Holland had the long hot Summer this year to give them the baking they need to flower so profusely ??? ;D
Luc,
maybe the "flower" secret is that all of the Sternbergias are grown in sand ;) ::)
Luit,
thanks for the weekly flower show ;)
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Wow Luit - Great Sternbergia !!!! :o
I didn't realize Holland had the long hot Summer this year to give them the baking they need to flower so profusely ??? ;D
Luc, when Dutch gardeners don't get nice warm weather, they make it.
You should know that... ;D ;D ;D
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This time of year every week we see less entries, which is understandable for
the time of year.
But in spite of that, there were some interesting plants to see;
Dahlia Mariska
Allium thunbergii 1
Allium thunbergii 2
Chirita sinensis 1
Chirita sinensis 2
Chirita sinensis 3
and a new type Dahlia, which seems to be a good one for cutting and
useful in arrangements:
Dahlia VK 9
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Luit, yet again you improve my education. Chirita is a flower I had never heard of before and it's lovely. Just caught up with your pics of Haemanthus from last week's Show, beautiful.
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Luit,
Dahlia Mariska is a real beauty :o :o
Thanks for posting.
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Luit
Lovely plants:)
Are there any cyclamen, crocus or colchicum at the show?
I ask since these might come in mass production so that we in Portugal can enjoy them in 10 year or so. They already exist but making a good thing better is often what we want!
Well done and thanks for showing us.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Joakim, there are sometimes other bulbous plants like cyclamen too,
but then I find the quality not so good to make a picture.
Colchicum and Crocus are mostly not cultivated in pots for shows.
This is mostly for economic reasons.
I am just reporting what there is and when I like something I make pictures.
You must consider it is not a show for the SHOW.
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I thought it was a way for someone with a nice new plant to see if it is worth introducing. So if someone found a nice crocus or cyclamen or a colchicum amongst there plants that they would pot them up and show them off. That new plant could come about as a chance seedlings or spots or with deliberate breeding but I was wondering if the "things to come" of the c, c and c could be seen already now?
Thanks again for taking us there.
Kind regards
Joakim
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It is a way to show a nice new plant to see if it is worth introducing Joakim, but you
need the gardener(s) which take the trouble or make a one or two hours driving with
one pot of a Crocus, knowing that he never will get the price in trade, he deserves ... ::) ::)
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Luit I did not think of that practical side of it :-\
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Luit - I've only just caught up with the Sternbergias. Wonderful! Has the identity of the cultivar 'Autumn Gold' changed?. In the UK it is distributed as S. lutea 'Autumn Gold'.
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Luit - I've only just caught up with the Sternbergias. Wonderful! Has the identity of the cultivar 'Autumn Gold' changed?. In the UK it is distributed as S. lutea 'Autumn Gold'.
Gerry, S. lutea angustifolia is re baptised into 'Autumn Gold' and probably registered by the KAVB,
which is the official Bulb Registrar. That all I can say about this.
All plants shown every week are taken up for the records and when a name is not right, it is
discussed by the Special Bulb Committee members.
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Not so many plants this week but at least some interesting ones.
The first one is a very easy plant, propagating by seed, which you can see on pict. 2
Arthropodium candidum 1
Arthropodium candidum 2
Arthropodium candidum 3
Lilium formosanum ssp. iwarense
Phaedranassa was grown from seed and this plant might be about 20 years old now.
Phaedranassa chloracea 1
Phaedranassa chloracea 2
Really a highlight of the show was an arrangement of Autumn flowering bulbs.
I show some details of the arrangement too
Herfst arrangement bijgoed 1
Herfstarr. det. 1
Herfstarr. det. 2
Herfstarr. det. 3
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Luit,
wonderful pictures!!! Crocus arangement looks quite pritty. The blue crocus speciosus with white anthers in your lst picture reminds me my crocus peciosus Pambak.
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Hi Luit ,
Many thanks for showing the Phaedranassa pics - really nice !
....but I have really a problem with the ID of all this Phaedranassas ...they look for me more or less similar !
Please look :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1163.0
Thank you again
Hans
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Luit,
what a pretty autuum flower wreath. My wife would love it if she could see.
So many nice croci and colchicums :o
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Armin, in the pretty flower arrangement, you forgot to mention the snowdrops! ::) ;)
This is the nicest collection of flowers I have seen in a long while!
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The Arthropodium is a NZ native and one has to be really besotted with the concept of growing natives to bother with this little plant which can easily become a terrible weed from seeding about into everything. "Once bitten, twice shy."
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The Arthropodium is a NZ native and one has to be really besotted with the concept of growing natives to bother with this little plant which can easily become a terrible weed from seeding about into everything. "Once bitten, twice shy."
I thought something like that Lesley.
But here, with our wet winters and in between hard frosts without snow, it is no problem.
It will not survive for long.
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We should not forget the snowdrops in the center, where they belong of course. ;D
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Yes Gerard, this is the point!
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Hi Luit , Many thanks for showing the Phaedranassa pics - really nice !
....but I have really a problem with the ID of all this Phaedranassas ...they look for me more or less similar !
Hans
Hans, I googled a bit and found P. dubia and P cinerea pictures, which look the same as
the one I showed.
So I think the Committee will have some discussion about the naming soon.
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We should not forget the snowdrops in the center, where they belong of course. ;D
I knew that at least a few of the Forumist would see the Snowdrop.
Or should I have put this arrangement into the Test Your Skill pages?
That would be to easy for most of you, won't it? ;D ;D ;D
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Though not so many entries, there is always something very interesting
to see at she Showhall.
This week a vase with a beautiful Asclepias, a really white form of
Nerine bowdenii and a pan with an Araceae with seeds instead of flowers.
Hope you enjoy, like I did.
Asclepias Beatrix 1
Asclepias Beatrix 2
Galanthus reginae-olgae
Galanthus reginae-olgae cl.
Nerine Bella Donna
Nerine bowdenii Edelweiss
Nerine bowdenii Edelweiss cl.
Sauromatum nubicum
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Though not so many entries, there is always something very interesting
to see at she Showhall.... a really white form of Nerine bowdenii
Nerine bowdenii Edelweiss
Now, Luit, this is very interesting as I didn't know there was such a thing!
I suppose if it had to be, it would be found in Holland!
Thanks for showing it (and all the other wonderful things) to us,
cheers
fermi
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Keep'em coming Luit ! ;D
You continue to surprise us every week !
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Monday there was a beautiful entry with Nerine in the Showhall.
The aim of the breeder is to select varieties which can grow and flower outside
and suitable for cutting, which means no costs for energy!
Since a few years it is easier to breed more and better colours in the N. bowdenii Group.
The ones shown here are all from outside:
Nerine Groep 02
Nerine Groep 03
Nerine bowdenii Seedl.
Nerine bowdenii Seedl. 1
Nerine bowdenii Seedl. 2
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The first one of the second batch is called Nerine Bella Donna and
is probably from the same crosses as the already existing Nerine Zeal Giant.
Nerine Bella Donna
Nerine crispa Seedl. 1
Nerine crispa Seedl. 3
very attractive was a vase with hybids.
The last picture shows one separated flowerstem.
Nerine Elegance Hybr. 1
Nerine Elegance seedl.
Nerine Elegance Hybr. 2
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Luit - A fantastic show of Nerines, thanks so much.
It is hard to believe the colour variation in the bowdeniis.
johnw - overcast & +11c
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These are very good, so much better than the rather vulgar pink of staright N. bowdenii.
I also like the Sauromatum on the previous page, seeds I guess, like some obscene eruption about to happen. Certainly messy and probably smelly as well. ;D
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These are very good, so much better than the rather vulgar pink of staright N. bowdenii.
Any vulgar pink thing welcome here in November!
johnw
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These are very good, so much better than the rather vulgar pink of staright N. bowdenii.
Any vulgar pink thing welcome here in November!
johnw
I'm willing to visit John. ;D
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These are very good, so much better than the rather vulgar pink of staright N. bowdenii.
Any vulgar pink thing welcome here in November!
johnw
I'm willing to visit John. ;D
And I a "colourful mess" according to Maggi.
johnw
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John, if you only knew me.... it is I who is a colourful mess in everyday life!!
Every week I am delighted to see what Luit will "bring" us from Lisse.... I can only think it must be a tonic to the eyes and soul to see the spectacle each week.... the local doctors should prescribe visits!
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With the Nerine of last week still glorious in flower in the Hall this week
there were a few new plants of interest at the show:
Salvia Christine Yeo
Crocus sativus 1
Crocus sativus 2
Crocus sativus 3
Salvia speciosa Mystic Spires Blue
Scilla madeirensis 1
Scilla madeirensis 2
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This week we saw the first entries of Hyacinths in very good quality.
The bulbs were dug on 15 June of this year and treated for early flowering 5 months later.
Here the results:
Hyacinthus Baltic Sea 1
Hyacinthus Baltic Sea 2
Hyacinthus Early Bird 1
Hyacinthus Early Bird 2
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Luit,
wonderful hyacinths - there must have been a very infatuating scent in the air :D
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Such photos! Lovely.... and I can smell the fragrance from here!
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A few entries of this week:
Hippeastrum Carmen
Hyacinthus Nr. 94.073.022.05
Scilla lingulata
Leucocoryne Andes
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You never disappoint us, Luit! ;) That little scilla is adorable.
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Nice Luit, I have some Leucocoryne sprouting nicely from seed.
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Hi Luit - even if Winter still has to start officially your pix already give us a Spring feeling ! Thanks ! ;)
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This Monday we could see the first Tulip. A white seedling of T. Yokohama x T. Brigitta. Brigitta is already known as a good variety for early forcing.
Interesting was to see a pot with some Narcissus Martinette. While the exhibitor walked
on a field he saw very unexpectedly some yellow flowers. The bulbs were somehow left after harvesting.
This Narcissus of theTazetta group is known to flower sometimes already in December in gardens.
Then there were some beautiful pots of Oxalis versicolor.
And again some Hyacinths of very good quality.
Hyacinthus White Pearl
Then Hyacinthus Anna Marie and at last Hyacinthus Atlantic, which is a offspring of Anna Marie.
Tulipa White Seedling
Narcissus Martinette
Narcissus Martinette cl.
Oxalis versicolor
Hyacinthus White Pearl
Hyacinthus Anna Marie
Hyacinthus Atlantic
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Luit, as ever I love to see all these exhibits but what a surprise to see this tulip! Fine shape, clean white.... and in December! A delight !
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I second your motion Maggi !!
Beautiful Tulip !! 8)
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This week we had a few entries.
Interesting was to see a nice pan with Iris reticulata, namely
I. ret. Harmony which is still one of the strongest, and two Sports of it:
Iris ret. Alida and I. ret. Pixie
In the pan they are from left to right:
Iris reticulata Pixie
Iris reticulata Alida
Iris reticulata Harmony
Narcissus Taffeta
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Hi Luit,
I'd never heard of "Alida" until it appeared in a couple of catalogues this year and here you are with a pic of it! Thanks, again.
cheers
fermi
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You haven't been paying attention Fermi, here's mine from late February this year. ;D Well the label says it is!
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You haven't been paying attention Fermi, here's mine from late February this year. ;D Well the label says it is!
It looks lovely, David,
I look forward to growing it at Redesdale.
cheers
fermi
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Today was the last weekly show.
As usual is the last show of the year always a special show:
The Special Christmas Show.We saw a nice lot of entries, like some groups of Hyacinths in a superb quality.
One group was shown in wooden boxes which were used for forcing in earlier times.
Then there were some vases with Alstroemeria. Here A. Nadya was outstanding with
an intensive red colour.
A very nice group of Iris reticulata and some very good tulips etc.
I wish a Merry Christmas to everyone on the forum and their relatives
and a very healthy and hopefully productive New Year.
Hyacinthus groep 1
Hyacinthus groep 2
Helleborus groep
Colchicum kesselringii
Colchicum serpentinum
Iris reticulata groep 1
Iris reticulata groep 2
Hyacinthus groep b
Alstroemeria Nadya
Alstroemeria Salmon Queen
Tulipa Christmas Gift
Tulipa red sdl.
Tulipa Dutch Design
Tulipa Lapin Ruska
Tulipa Ferrari
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batch 2
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We have been lucky enough to have a warm, bright day here, Luit, but nothing to compare with this wealth of colour from Lisse......how much I enjoy these visits :D
What a deep red the Alstroemeria 'Nadya' has ... I will send this photo to my friend... Alstroemeria are her favourite flowers, but I am sure she has not seen one so richly red , like velvet.
What a shame I had not time to order Ian some(Tulipa) 'Ferrari' for Christmas ;)
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Thanks for the colour Luit, brightened up what has been a grey day here.
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What a shame I had not time to order Ian some(Tulipa) 'Ferrari' for Christmas
;D ;D
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Great show once again Luit ! Thanks for taking us on this visit every week. :)
Makes a difference from having to look at Christmas decorations all the time ;D
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Great show once again Luit ! Thanks for taking us on this visit every week. :)
Makes a difference from having to look at Christmas decorations all the time ;D
Are you the decorations manager Luc? Or just the supervisor? ;D ;D 8)
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Are you the decorations manager Luc? Or just the supervisor? ;D ;D 8)
Just the victim with sore eyes Luit and besides.... supervising is my specialty... ;D
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Luit
As an admirer of reticulate irises, could you please post Iris reticulata groep 2. By mistake you posted
Hyacinthus groep 2 twice.
Thanks
Arthur
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I like the top dressing of sand. Would it work for bulbs in pots?
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Luit
As an admirer of reticulate irises, could you please post Iris reticulata groep 2. By mistake you posted
Hyacinthus groep 2 twice.
Thanks
Arthur
Oops, it was a bit late already when posting. Here it is.
In front you see Iris ret. Harmony, then Alida, Pauline, Pixie and the last one is Gordon.
On picture one you see the same (then the names backward!)
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I like the top dressing of sand. Would it work for bulbs in pots?
It's just for the show. Don't see why you cannot use it for pots, but consider that
sand is heavier than potting soil, so after a while you don't see it anymore.
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Thank you, Luit,
a wonderful display!
cheers
fermi
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Luit
Thanks for adding the second photo of the reticulate iris.
I look forward in anticipation to the treasures I know you will show us in the New Year.
Many thanks for all your hard work this year.
Arthur
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I look forward in anticipation to the treasures I know you will show us in the New Year.
Does this mean I should go on for another year Arthur? :-\
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I look forward in anticipation to the treasures I know you will show us in the New Year.
Does this mean I should go on for another year Arthur? :-\
Only ONE, Luit? (We will demand more) Many thanks for this superb thread. :)
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I look forward in anticipation to the treasures I know you will show us in the New Year.
Does this mean I should go on for another year Arthur? :-\
YES PLEASEEE ;D
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Does this mean I should go on for another year Arthur?
Most definitely please Luit, it has been education and enjoyment. :D
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I look forward in anticipation to the treasures I know you will show us in the New Year.
Does this mean I should go on for another year Arthur? :-\
Dear Luit, was there any doubt that we would love you to continue? :o
Surely not on our part........ we are all agreed.... PLEASE! :-*
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Luit - To re-iterate what Maggi has said, even though we may be silent I'm sure everyone is enthralled by the regular Lisse photos. Keep up the good work.
johnw
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Good Heavens, never expected so many reactions.
And who am I, to refuse showing more pictures in this wonderful Forum
with so many nice people.
Fact is that I lately didn’t have so much time to make many contributions to
the Forum.
I was (and will be) very busy by cutting and making wood chops for our stove.
The good thing is that it keeps me warm by day when working and in the evenings
it is so nice to sit warm and look in the fire with a good glass and most important
we save a lot of money with these horror prices for gas.
The bad thing is that I am rather tired after some hours of occupation which gives some problems when thinking and writing in a strange language.
But as being a Committee Member I will be on most Mondays in Lisse and will take my
camera with me and continue my series.
Merry Christmas to all of you!
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I forgot the picture.
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Luit thanks for last years pics it is a great treat and we are very fortunate to have You to show us these.
So hopefully there will be many more Years of reports from the show
Already starting to have abstinence for more.
Was it cut hyacinths in the glass vases? Never seen it with foliage before. Not so common as a cut flower in Sweden but very common in "Christmas group plantings" if You get what I am trying to say. Really part of the Christmas tradition in Sweden. Not so much in Portugal yet but seems to be more and more of them. Generally they are far from the perfectly grown specimens You show but in real life I can smell them and that is even better :)
All the best
Joakim
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Was it cut hyacinths in the glass vases? Never seen it with foliage before.
Joakim, Hyacinths as cutflowers are becoming a rather big product in the flower trade.
Last year in the first January week more than 600.000 flowers went through the Flower Auction.
And in week 6, last year more than 1.5 million!
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Luit Thanks for the information. I bet it was a nice scent at the time there ::) :o 8). I think I have seen some of those at the florist but did not remember that they had foliage. A great cut flower that is easy to take care of and no guilt of throwing a bulb when it is past its flowering. And grown very well as well.
Kind regards
Joakim
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A few days after the Mid Winter Flower Show, there were not so many entries.
Here a few pictures though.
Narcissus Winter Sun
Crocus danfordiae Yellow Form
Tulipa Flair Fringed
Tulipa TBL 98012
Galanthus elwesii Mrs. MacNamara
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Yesterday I noticed the following entries on the Show.
There were many tulips, Hyacinths, etc. too, but there will be many
opportunities to show them here in the coming weeks.
The first picture shows 10 different Galanthus elwesii in a small vase.
For me they are all white. ??? ;)
Then there was a nice entry with several clones of small flowered hardy
Hippeastrum hybrids.
The grower has left them already 5 years outside in the garden.
This spring will show how hardy they are after some weeks of frost.
Galanthus elwesii
Hippeastrum Small Fl. Hardy Hybr.
Galanthus elwesii Monostictus var. hiemale
Galanthus elwesii x caucasicus
Ipheion Alberto Castillo
Iris reticulata Rhapsody
Narcissus Elka
Narcissus romieuxii Treble Chance
Ipheion uniflorum Charlotte Bishop
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The first picture shows 10 different Galanthus elwesii in a small vase.
For me they are all white.
Dear Luit, for sure you are not a galanthus connoisseur....... even I can see the differences..... some are fat and some are thin!
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;D ;D ;D
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Hardy Amaryllis sounds interesting :)
Hope they can be used for Christmas decoration as well as the old ones (being forced I think it s called). Then just plant them out. What a sight after some time.
Is the iphelon named after "Our" Alberto?
Nice warmth with the pictures to brighten the day.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Luit,
thank you for the pictures -you bring us the spring in mid-winter ;)
I agree - not much difference to see "in the 10 different Galanthus elwesii in a small vase" ;D
(likely my PC needs a much better graphic card ;) ;D ;D)
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Yesterday I noticed some interesting developments in Hyacinthus.
There was an acceptable double pink, with well formed flowers.
And the orange colour is also coming nearer with H. Florence.
Then I made two pictures of Ipheion with different names.
On first sight there is no difference but in an article in
The Plantsman of 1995 by Brian Mathew describes both forms.:
The New Plantsman, vol. 2, part 1, 10 -11.
I hope I can next week make pictures of the opened flowers.
Hyacinthus Double Delights
Hyacinthus Florence
Hyacinthus Purple Sensation
Ipheion dialystemon
Ipheion sellowianum
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The two ipheions are very similar aren't they? How do you tell them apart? ???
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They may well look the same BUT according to the Kew Check List they are different, to the extent that their names are different as well! ;D
The first one is Nothosccordum dialystemon and the second one is Tristagma sellowianum. They look very pretty Luit whatever their names are 8)
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The two ipheions are very similar aren't they? How do you tell them apart? ???
If there is a diiference I hope I can show it next week.
Dialystemon means 'with separate stamens'
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Very nice Hyacinthus Double Delights, Hyacinthus Florence and Hyacinthus Purple Sensation I will be on the look out if I see them :) 8)
Thanks for these weekly reports Luit. It is great to have these information.
Maybe a bit off topic but I bought hyacinthus bulbs where the package says that they are harmful to the skin. Just one brand had it and I have not seen it before. Have anyone heard of this before. Are the bulbs treated to last longer on the shelves or is that a natural harmfulness?
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I have always believed that the colour of the bulb for hyacinthus has something to do with the coulor of the flower but once I bought 4-5 different coloured bulbs that was supposed to be of several colours but all were pale peach. They were planted with Rhododendron so maybe the acid soil had something to do with it?
All the best
Joakim
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Joakim, In the Bulb Industries it is very well known that dust of dried Hyacinthus bulbs can be cause of itching. When scratching your skin it gets worse.
Many people don’t want to work with dry bulbs of Hyacinthus because of this.
When picking Narcissus flowers for trade all day you might get Narcissus fingers, which is very painful. This is caused by the slimy stems.
And cleaning Tulip bulbs may also be harmful when you are susceptible.
You see, working in the Bulb Industry is not such a pleasant job like the pictures of the flowering fields might suggest… ;D ;D
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Luit thanks for this information :)
I did not know this and will be more carefull handling bulbs in the future.
Joakim, In the Bulb Industries it is very well known that dust of dried Hyacinthus bulbs can be cause of itching. When scratching your skin it gets worse.
Many people don’t want to work with dry bulbs of Hyacinthus because of this.
When picking Narcissus flowers for trade all day you might get Narcissus fingers, which is very painful. This is caused by the slimy stems.
And cleaning Tulip bulbs may also be harmful when you are susceptible.
You see, working in the Bulb Industry is not such a pleasant job like the pictures of the flowering fields might suggest… ;D ;D
Luit it is just a small snake in the Paradise (The itching from bulbs)
And like in Paradise one should not work just enjoy. ::) That make it much nicer!
Through You we have the option of just enjoying (the bulb industry) without working 8) ;D
All the best
Joakim
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Probably I will show sometimes pictures of bulbs, which I did show
last year already, but controlling everything would cause lots of work.
This week I start with a nice little buttercup.
Then some Iris.
Ranunculus kochii
Iris reticulata Halkis
Iris reticulata Palm Springs
Iris histrio
And I noticed amongst many others the following tulips:
The first is a good compact looking Tulipa for pots
Tulipa Baby Blue
Then there was a very dark one, which was difficult to show the real colour.
The aim of many breeders is to get a tulip of a nearly black colour, or
let's say as dark as possible.
Tulipa Ronaldo 1
Tulipa Ronaldo 2
And two special colours with a good performance for the time of year:
Tulipa Alexander Pushkin
Tulipa Sugar Love
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Luit,
Relating 'black' tulips', I would also like to add that breeders also try to get realtively large flowered dark tulips, as all the 'black tulips' are quite very small-flowered.
Though knowing well the assortment of tulips, I want to mention that among non-commercial tulips there are 2 large-flowered and tall very dark purple and pirplish-brown cultivars, which are 'Faust' (Darwin Group) and 'Toean' (Cottage Croup). 'Toean' is darkest purplish-brown, sport of famous 'Golden Harvest', which has quite good sizes.
'Ronaldo' is not a bad tulip, being slightly lighter than the famous 'Queen of Night' and the other relatively newer introduction 'Paul Sherer'. It doesn't surpasses by its decorative features these two mentioned cultivars, but I suppose is cultivated for good industrial qualities (mainly forcing qualities).
'Aleksandr Pushkin' is an interesting one, well known and easily avalable in Russia.
On the whole, I would say that new assortment of classic-shaped tulips is mainly evaluated for their forcing qualities; but as to decorativeness they are far worse than the existing older cultivars.
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Two weeks ago I showed two pictures of Ipheion, where I was
wondering if there was any difference.
Today the plants were shown again and the flowers were opened to
see if there was any difference.
Since last time’s entries the Committee now was able to read the article
of Brian Mathew in the Plantsman, from where was quoted the following:
Ipheion dialystemon is very similar, in fact from a purely ornamental point of view
there is no real reason for cultivating both.
They differ mainly in that the stamens are joined together at the base in
Ipheion sellowiana but are free from each other in Ipheion dialystemon. Edit L.
The latter name is a compound Greek-derived epithet meaning
‘with separate stamens’.
(very similar is meant to “I. sellowianum”)
The Committee decided that both plants were Ipheion dialystemon,
because in both flowers the stamens were totally separated.
Here you can see it yourself
Ipheion dialystemon 01
Ipheion dialystemon 02
Ipheion sellowianum 01 (= Ipheion dialystemon)
Ipheion sellowianum 02 (= Ipheion dialystemon)
Edit L.:
I corrected the names of the pictures because I managed to take over just
a little mistake in the Mathew article. The real name is Ipheion sellowianum
So the pictures might not be in the right follwing up
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And then are here some other interesting entries from today:
Fritillaria Ole Sonderhausen
Fritillaria reuteri
Tulipa Golden Tycoon
Tulipa humilis Lilliput
Tulipa Purple Crystal
Tulipa Spryng
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More Spring Gems, Luit! The Frits are especially interesting to me, of course ......but the tulips speak of a change in season.... I hope they speak the truth ::) These red 'Spryng' are perfect.
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Thank you for the information on the Ipheions, Luit.
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More Spring Gems, Luit! The Frits are especially interesting to me, of course ......but the tulips speak of a change in season.... I hope they speak the truth ::) These red 'Spryng' are perfect.
Spring is far still away Maggi, though not complaining about the weather.
No snow or ice here at the moment.
After much raining during the night temps raised to 7 C. and fell to 2 C. just now.
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I noted this week a plant which I have shown already
last year. Only this time the flower is much nicer.
The grower told me that he kept it a bit warmer than
last year so the flower was much more developed.
It was not so high as last year so I made some shots of
the inside, for which I used flash for the last picture.
Amorphophallus rivieri 1
Amorphophallus rivieri 2
Amorphophallus rivieri 3
Then a few Hyacinths and one of them astonishing yellow.
And some Narcissus:
Hyacinthus Yellowstone
Hyacinthus Blue Eyes
Narcissus Eaton Song
Narcissus Douglasbank
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In this second batch I show two vases with Galanthus.
One vase with only named cultivars in the more expensive range.
And one vase with just unnamed Galanthus in the cheaper range.
You will understand that for me, as "Non Galanthophile" the
cheaper ones are looking as good as the more expensive ones
in the garden.
Galanthus more expensive named Cultivars
Galanthus cheap unnamed Cultivars
And there was a Dutch raised Galanthus which until now I did
not spot before (But I have not seen so many!)
I would like to know what specialists mean about it, so I will place
the pictures in Galanthus February Thread too.
Galanthus Green Brush 1
Galanthus Green Brush 2
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In the last batch some varied other bulbous flowers:
Colchicum trigynum
Corydalis incisa Edit L.: = Corydalis solida ssp. incisa
Fritillaria minuta
Scilla litardieri
Lachenalia aloides var. quadricolor
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Lovely stuff as usual Luit, you will have set the Galanthophiles hearts fluttering. I love Narcissus 'Douglasbank'. That pot of Lachenalia aloides var. quadricolor is a little larger than mine 8)
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Lovely plants Luit, I'm with you on the snowdrop front - all green and white and the perfectly 'ordinary' ones are good enough for me. They are looking very jolly in the garden just now.
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Every Tuesday is a highlight.
Great pictures. Thank you for the work. Learn every week a lot about "new" bulbs.
The Lachenalia is a dream of colour in the cloudy days, we have hear.
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Great stuff once again Luit !
Scilla litardieri is the one that caught my eye ! Very nice soft blue :D
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Superb images as usual, Luit ... Colchicum trigynum is particularly tasty.
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And there was a Dutch raised Galanthus which until now I did
not spot before (But I have not seen so many!)
I would like to know what specialists mean about it, so I will place
the pictures in Galanthus February Thread too.
Galanthus Green Brush 1
Galanthus Green Brush 2
Luit, even I can see this is a truly different snowdrop ..... I think it is very smart indeed.
The yellow hyacinth is rather pretty ..... I don't think I have seen these offered here .....but they would be a cheery addition to indoor flowers at this time.
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Thank you all for your support. :D :D
Every Tuesday is a highlight.
Great pictures. Thank you for the work. Learn every week a lot about "new" bulbs.
The Lachenalia is a dream of colour in the cloudy days, we have hear.
Uli, I'm happy to see that "Staudenfreunde" like my topic too.
Amazing that you as tree specialist are leading a Bulb Group! 8) ;D
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"..... I think it is very smart indeed."
Here we desperately seek out unusual flowers and then try our darnest to turn them green so that they look like leaves! ::)
Heh, heh! I must admit to growing the occasional green flower myself and then parading it around insisting that it is extremely beautiful and unusual! ;)
Thanks for the weekly flower show Luit, it is extremely interesting.
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Luit,
I lift up my hand 5 years ago and so I'm leading that group. So I need lot of information about bulbs.
And where can you find this? In the SRGC, in the logs from Ian and Wisely, in the weekly Lissie flowershow and so on ...
And I hope to learn a lot of new things about my love the bulbs.
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This week I made the following pictures.
The Ornithogalum could become an interesting plant for
forcing in pots. Here is shown one bulb per pot.
They can be forced very quick and don't need much warmth.
The one here were kept a bit too warm, otherwise they are
very short, like O. balansae in the garden.
I made one close up because I wanted to show the "fimbriatum"
on the leaves, but I would have needed a better lens.
I hope you can see what I mean though.
Ornithogalum fimbriatum 1
Ornithogalum fimbriatum 2
Narcissus Mite
Narcissus Small Talk
Of the first new tulip there were several pots.
I liked this special colour.
Tulipa 92.220.118.02 1
Tulipa 92.220.118.02 2
Tulipa Ayers Rock 1
Tulipa Ayers Rock 2
Tulipa Quest
Tulipa Enkhuizen
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Hi Luit,
I'd not heard of a fringed tulip called "Ayer's Rock" before! I wonder if they'll be required to change the name to "Uluru" in keeping with the tradition in Australia to revert to indigenous names? ;D
As always a great selection of blooms for us to enjoy.
cheers
fermi
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Here is my selection of this week:
Narcissus Gold Medal
Cyclamen persicum Rhodes Form 1
Cyclamen persicum Rhodes Form 2
Corydalis schanginii ssp. ainii
Tulipa White Flag
Scilla mischtschenkoana
Heloniopsis orientalis
Tulipa Jimmy
Tulipa X Factor
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Yesterday I selected the following pictures.
First two of a Alan McMurtrie reticulata hybrid.
It was not possible to do justice to the right colour, but I tried.
A small Tazetta Narcissus
and some interesting Tulipa of which the Lily flowered Fire Wings
with its colours might give good feelings on a grey sunless day.
Iris 87-BB-1 a
Iris 87-BB-1 b
Iris winogradowii
Narcissus Idol 1
Narcissus Idol 2
Tulipa Colorado
Tulipa Fire Wings
Tulipa Ice Lolly
Tulipa Tom Pouce
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The colourings on those tulips really are quite luscious, Luit.
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The colourings on those tulips really are quite luscious, Luit.
And some colours are a bit sweet Martin. No wonder, with the name Tom Pouce the breeder
was probably inspired by a sweet Dutch patisserie, inside cream colour and topped with pink ;D
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The colourings on those tulips really are quite luscious, Luit.
And some colours are a bit sweet Martin. No wonder, with the name Tom Pouce the breeder
was probably inspired by a sweet Dutch patisserie, inside cream colour and topped with pink ;D
I do find flower colourings that look edible very enticing!
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Luit,
some delicious pics there of these delicious flowers!
Alan McMurtrie's retic hybrids are amazing and I'm sorry they aren't so accessible to those of us in this hemisphere!
cheers
fermi
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Alan McMurtrie's Irises- drool drool!
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Very nice selection Luit
As always this brings nice colour to a nice day :) 8)
All the best
Joakim
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'Aleksandr Pushkin' is an interesting one, well known and easily avalable in Russia.
Well it would be, wouldn't it? :)
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This week I can show some interesting entries.
Some Iris were send in
The Committee was able to see some slight differences between
some Iris.
One may question if it is useful to name plants which are hardly
to distinguish from each other.
I show three pictures and they are all named from left to right.
Iris Angel's Tears Iris Michael's Angel [from left]
Iris Lady Beatrix Stanley Iris Angel's Tears Iris Michael's Angel [from left]
Iris Michael's Angel Iris Angel's Tears Iris Lady Beatrix Stanley [from left]
Then we saw a nice pot where a breeder showed some colours and forms
of Hyacinths he is using for his breeding programme.
Hyacinthus breeding mix
Another breeder showed some pots with double flowered plants.
Many years Hyacinths were bred to achieve nice full flower stalks,
but when the flowers are double there is almost no space for each flower.
Here are some where is space enough for each flower.
I reckon the developments will go on to achieve good formed flower stalks.
Hyacinthus double 1
Hyacinthus double 2
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In the second batch I show a variety of other entries:
Hippeastrum group (Small flowered cultivars)
Narcissus lobularis
Pleione Iris
Tropaeolum tricolor
Tulipa Close Up
Tulipa cretensis
Corydalis solida Apple Snow
Corydalis solida Beth Evans
Corydalis solida Dieter Schacht
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Yes, I see what you mean about those Iris... they are VERY similar indeed.
I do not care for the double hyacinths but I DO like their colours.
The small flowered Hippeastrum cultivars are wonderful .... they would make good cut flowers too.... are they used for this purpose? We only very occasionally see the large Hippeastrum in the Florists' shops in Aberdeen.
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The small flowered Hippeastrum cultivars are wonderful .... they would make good cut flowers too.... are they used for this purpose? We only very occasionally see the large Hippeastrum in the Florists' shops in Aberdeen.
Maggi, many of these types are not as good for cut flowers as the large ones.
As you can see in the vase left of the picture all the flowers open at once.
And so do many of this type.
They are lovely indeed but somehow the trade does not pick them up.
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As you can see in the vase left of the picture all the flowers open at once.
Yes, I see that may be cosidered a disadvantage for a long lasting flower.... but for some occasions it is good to have something which gives maximum flower power at one time.... wedding flowers, for instance., when it is important to have a great display all on ONE day ::)
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Nor do I like the modern, formal hyacinths but one of my Australian friends grows a number in the open garden and doesn't lift them. The following year their lovely colours and scent remain, but the flowers are displayed looser and a little smaller, making very pretty, informal clumps. Like this, they are well worth growing and I plan to try some this year (well, next).
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Nor do I like the modern, formal hyacinths but one of my Australian friends grows a number in the open garden and doesn't lift them. The following year their lovely colours and scent remain, but the flowers are displayed looser and a little smaller, making very pretty, informal clumps. Like this, they are well worth growing and I plan to try some this year (well, next).
Leslie, when you go hyacinth buying, look for the modern Festival hyacinths. The ones I know are marketed as Festival White, Festival Blue and Festival Pink. They only form loose, informal spikes and several of them - no need to wait a year or two for the big guys to slow down. And this habit is genetic - these are not the same as the hyacinths marketed in the past as Cynthella hyacinths (which were simply small bulbs of standard varieties).
I've been collecting garden hyacinths in a small way for several years now: there have always been some in the garden, but lately I find myself very fond of them. The colors of modern hyacinths are sometimes marvelous, and the fragrance is reason enough to have them. They do well under our conditions and persist indefinitely.
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Thanks Jim, I'll keep an eye out for those.
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Lesley,
Jim means multi-flowering hyacinths like the French Roman Hyacinthus which were available in “our old” days.
I think you will remember those. These new hybrids resemble the old-fashioned type.
These bulbs of 'Festival' hyacinths are very reliable and give 10 to 20 stems.
I'll make a picture when I see them.
Just the names Jim mentioned, are the other way around: White Festival, etc.
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This week I start with a picture of an Arum wich smells reasonable.
Arum creticum
Some close-ups of Hippeastrum out of the Hippeastrum Group I showed last week.
Hippeastrum Rebecca
Hippeastrum Santa Rosa
Hippeastrum Santiago
Hyacinthus Yellow Creation
There was some discussion about multiflowering Hyacinths.
Yesterday there was an entry with several seedlings
Hyacinthus Fairy Type Seedlings
Scilla hohenackeri
The next plant was probably shown for the first time ever in Holland:
Tropaeolum azureum 1
Tropaeolum azureum 2
And a nice pot with Corydalis (amateur entry.. ;) )
Corydalis solida ssp. solida George Baker
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Lovely images (as always), Luit!
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Lesley,
Jim means multi-flowering hyacinths like the French Roman Hyacinthus which were available in “our old” days.
I think you will remember those. These new hybrids resemble the old-fashioned type.
These bulbs of 'Festival' hyacinths are very reliable and give 10 to 20 stems.
I'll make a picture when I see them.
Just the names Jim mentioned, are the other way around: White Festival, etc.
Luit, thanks for the remarks about the names of the Festival hyacinths. The dealer from whom I obtained my bulbs lists them as I did, Festival Blue, Festival White and Festival Pink. However, I checked two other American bulb catalogs, and they give the names as you do.
Your comments answer a question I had when I first saw these names: Festival Blue sounds as if it might be a name for any blue flowered Festival hyacinth, and I wondered if bulbs supplied under this name might in fact have other registered names but were too scarce to be marketed individually. Thanks to your remarks I now know that 'Blue Festival' is the name of a particular clone.
Now on to what I meant: I did mean the "cynthella" hyacinths. For those of you who do not know the term, these were simply very small bulbs of standard hyacinths; they produced smaller, less dense spikes of bloom. If you have ever seen run down hyacinths in old gardens, you have an idea of what they were like. The cynthella hyacinths were not multiflowering.
What the Festival hyacinths and the old French Roman hyacinths have in common is that they are multiflowering (i.e. multiple scapes arise from one bulb). However, to my eyes, the Festival hyacinths resemble the cynthella hyacinths more than they do the old French Roman hyacinths. The old French Roman and Roman hyacinths had flowers widely spaced on the stalk; and the flowers were slender and with narrow tepals. The modern Festival hyacinths have comparatively full spikes of bloom.
So, to those who place primary importance on the multiflowering characteristic, the Festival hyacinths resemble the old French Roman hyacinths. But to those of us who primarily see the overall inflorescence, the Festival hyacinths suggest the cynthella hyacinths.
In my garden I have had for over forty years a blue flowered hyacinth (received as "Hyacinthus rommanus" [sic]) which is apparently one of the old French Roman or Roman hyacinths. It is intensely fragrant. The blue flowers are widely spaced on the stalk. This plant begins to sprout very early in the year, and in a bad winter the foliage is damaged. If you think modern garden hyacinths are beautiful, you will think this one is pathetic. But it is worth having for its fragrance.
My stock is badly run down and has not bloomed for several years. This year I moved it to the protected cold frame where is seems to be bulking up nicely. Perhaps next year I will be able to post a photo. I did place an image of this plant on the Pacific Bulb Society wiki years ago and it can be seen here:
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Hyacinthus
Can anyone tell me if the cultivar 'Borah' is still in commerce?
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The 'Fairy Type' hyacinths are very nice indeed, much more so - to my eye - than the "clumpy" and solid types.
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Does anyone know whether the (French) Roman hyacinths Jim refers to are still available commercially (or otherwise)?
Through carelessness I lost mine years ago and would love to replace them.
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Does anyone know whether the (French) Roman hyacinths Jim refers to are still available commercially (or otherwise)?
Through carelessness I lost mine years ago and would love to replace them.
In the past Broadleigh Bulbs has had them http://www.broadleighbulbs.co.uk/ (http://www.broadleighbulbs.co.uk/) but don't seem to now. - I have some in the garden, let me know if you'd like a bulb.
Sue
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That's very kind Sue; thank you.
I'll check first whether BB expect to stock them for the coming season, then if not I'll PM you to take up the generous offer.
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Yesterday was a special Hippeastrum judging day.
Some overall pictures I show here.
Hippeastrum 1
Hippeastrum 2
Then there was a nice blue x pruhoniciana? Primula. I would like to know from where
it originates?
Primula Hall Barn Blue
and here follow some other entries:
Narcissus Baby Boomer
Narcissus bulbocodium Tenuifolius
Corydalis solida First Kiss
Pulmonaria Lewis Palmer
Narcissus Akita
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Beautiful, as always, Luit.
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Luit, there is a Hall Barn and gardens in Norwich, Norfolk. Brian Ellis or Tony Goode may be able to tell us more.
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Luit,
What a show and display!
Hippestrums are just fantastic!!! I grow around 15 cultivars and they always give me a great joy.
I plant them in big pots and they bloom twise in a year with abundance.
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There were questions asked of Zhirair about his cutivation techniques and these, plus replies have been moved to a new page "Hippeastrum 2009" here http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3324.msg84653#msg84653
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This week the Show was held on Tuesday because of Easter.
A totally unknown Muscari was shown to the Committee as a new Cultivar.
Muscari 1
Muscari 2
Anemone nemorosa Lychette
Bellevalia forniculata
Pulmonaria Westward Blue
In a Primula Thread was some discussion about Garryarde Primula's
Here is:
Primula Garryarde Crimson
Pulmonaria Westward Blue
And a special color of a Primula vulgaris:
Primula vulg. Don Keefe
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More nice things Luit; thanks for showing them.
Can you tell us anything about the muscari?
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Apparently Primula 'Don Keefe' was bred at Cotswold Garden Flowers http://www.cgf.net/index.php and is covered by European PVR (propagation for re-sale is prohibited without a license.
Some nice stuff on the benches Luit.
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Luit,
muscari is just awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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About the Muscari I cannot tell much, only that it caught every visitor's eye here.
The Committee asked the grower to plant bulbs in the KAVB Garden where it is possible to see if a
new plant is stable and how it is behaving and might be registered ( when it gets a name) later.
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David, I saw the plant here and my picture in a hall where the light is not
so good at all, shows much more how this Primula is looking, than Bob's pic.
The plant has a nice warm orange color.
Seeing Bob's picture, I would not even like it ;D ;D ;D
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Apparently Primula 'Don Keefe' was bred at Cotswold Garden Flowers http://www.cgf.net/index.php and is covered by European PVR (propagation for re-sale is prohibited without a license.
Why would one want to bother? Looks like your basic Cowichan to me, in the orange/red range. Nothing special.
The Muscari though, QUITE another thing. Really super. :)
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Monday was a special Narcissus day in the Show Hall.
There were many entries, but I just picked a few of the smaller Narcissi and two other entries.
Narcissus
Narcissus Cupid 1
Narcissus Cupid 2a
Narcissus rupicola
Narcissus Smarple
Tulipa celsiana
Babiana rubrocyanea
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I managed to make a flying visit to the Keukenhof Garden in Lisse yesterday, taking advantage of a particularly cheap return fare on Easyjet. Is this is where the flower shows that are the subject of this thread are held? {Edit: Possibly not because this thread begins some months before the Keukenhof is open - in which case, Luit, could you mentiuon the venue and times of these shows for the benefit of anyone who happens to be in the area}
Lisse is close to Schiphol Airport and during the time that the Keukenhof is open (late March to late May) there is an express bus service from the Airport which only takes about 30 minutes. Unfortunately Wednesday is the day between shows at the Keukenhof so I was only able to glimpse the next show being set up by peering through the doors of the pavilion.
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Alan, the weekly Show is always on Monday, except Easter Monday or Whitsun Monday.
If anyone wants to visit this Show, it could be helpful to PM me before and I can be of help.
The Show is in the CNB Bulb Trade Center, about 2 Km. from Keukenhof.
If you would have sent me a PM in advance about visiting Keukenhof, we could have met maybe, because I was there yesterday late afternoon too, but could easily have arranged another time to go there and show you the best places. >:(
Did you make pictures? Could you send some into the Keukenhof Thread?
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Hi:
Concerning the difference between "I" sellowianum and dialystemon,
sellowianum always has 6 tepals
dialystemon always has 8 tepals, seedlings invariably having 8 tepals
It will take time but former Ipheions will have to be named Tristagmas in the future.
BUT, these plants are not Ipheions. Current (accepted for two decades or so now)
nomenclature is
Nothoscordum felipponei is the one known as "Ipheion" sellowianum
Nothoscordum dialystemon is the one known as "Ipheion" dialystemon-
both of this have very short "stems" and look sessile
Nothoscordum hirtellum is the one known as "Ipheion" hirtellum
the flower opens more flat and with upwards curving tepals. Also yellow with brown striped backs. The "stem" is 10-15 cm tall. Can not be confused with the two previous ones on this alone.
The confusion of names came from a poor "Synopsis" that made a confusing merging of random species of the two genera based on the fact that some species have pedicels that strongly curved downwards to bury the ripening capsule.
regards
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Thank you Alberto!
I made a copy of your posting and will send it to the taxonomist of KAVB, Mr. van Scheepen.
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Thank YOU for your generosity in sharing so many inspiring images, it was like we were there!
Best regards
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Since I made the pictures on Monday, I couldn't find time for the Forum.
I was happy that a Forumist was visiting, so I was a rather occupied these days.
Oops, I am not complaining... ;D ;D :D
The Forum had to wait, so I'm a bit late with my pictures of this week.
Amongst other entries this week was a special Muscari day at the Show.
Disporum sessile var. flavum
Lachenalia contaminata
Polygonatum Grace Barker
Muscari entries
Muscari Artist
Muscari Chimcan
Muscari Cupido
Muscari Maxabel
Muscari Peppermint
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And some pictures of a beautiful arrangement and subtle details, which I liked very much:
Muscari arr.
Muscari arr. det. 1
Muscari arr. det. 2
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Wow, Luit, really nice. And if those are lilacs and fragrant viburnum arranged with the Muscari, that must have been a potently fragrant corner of the exhibition hall!
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Some beautiful forms here Luit. What a difference from the old "Grape hyacinth."
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Hi Luit,
were all these varieties bred locally?
They are quite attractive and show there's more to muscari than ribbon borders!
cheers
fermi
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Jim, you spotted the right plant and I am sure they will smell, but in this hall temps are kept
to 15 C. to keep the flowers fresh for some time.
When it is so cold you almost don't smell much.
Fermi, I don't know much about breeding or selecting, but in the last years many new varieties
did occur here.
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Luit
Fantastic :o
Some of these cultivars seems to be huge, aren't they?
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Some of these cultivars seems to be huge, aren't they?
Oron, let's say that many visitors were impressed. Several ones were really huge.
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Here some pictures from Monday May 4th.
Narcissus and Tulips are almost over now, but there were some nice entries.
Arisaema sikokianum
Hymenocallis harrisianum
Iris Broadleigh Elisabeth
Iris x Orion
Veronica prostrata Blue Sheen
Oxalis rubra Pink Dream
Phlox divaricata White Perfume
Iris aphylla fieberi
Narcissus Lancaster
Tulipa Tequila Sunrise Hemisphere Edit L.
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Another good Monday, I see, Luit :)
The Hymenocallis is intriguing... like an alien creature /flower ..... fascinating with the sculptural form .... those super anthers 8)
I have tried a number of the "Broadleigh" Irises..... none of them grew here :'( >:(
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Another good Monday, I see, Luit :)
The Hymenocallis is intriguing... like an alien creature /flower ..... fascinating with the sculptural form .... those super anthers 8)
I have tried a number of the "Broadleigh" Irises..... none of them grew here :'( >:(
Maggi this Iris was grown in a pot in a cold glasshouse. But I think they are not good garden plants,
because the flowers fade very fast and they have always brown leaf points.
I show another picture with a better flower but brown leaves.
And a close up of Hymenocallis harrisianum. But could not really catch the beauty there.
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Tulipa 'Tequila Sunrise' is VERY well named. I remember a certain morning after the night before when tequila was the drink of choice and the morning showed many bleary and bloodshot eyes among a group of friends.
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A good plant breeder will refrain from introducing plants which have such obvious defects as browning foliage when the flowers are out. Flower beauty is not and should not be, the only criterion when judging a new plant.
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Luit,
Wonderful photos! Hemynocallis looks quite special and elegant. I think it would be perfect for flower arrangements.
The tulip variety is very colourful and catchy. But I should say that it is Triumph tulip 'Hemisphere'. It immediately caught my attention when I first saw it last year among the pictures of a tourist, who were in Kokenhof (no plant are alike). 'Tequila Sunrise' is equally beautiful Triumph tulip with Darwin shape of flower - yellow with red edge. Pictures are presented below.
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Thank you Zhirair! I must have mixed the label pictures when naming my series. ??? :-[ :o
They were both there in the show, but the other picture was not good at all.
I will change my posting then!
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Some pictures of this week, to start with a very interesting Babiana. Never seen before.
Babiana tubulosa
Babiana Zwanenburg's Glory
Iris TB Blazing Sunrise
Iris TB Immortality
Iris TB Morning Show
Iris TB Patina
Iris TB Peach Jam
Lilium tsingtauense
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'Patina' is my most favourite TB Iris, the old antique colours look wonderful in a large, pottery jar.
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This week had Heuchera and Hosta as special themes. I pictured some of both
Heuchera Caramel
Heuchera Dark Secret
Heuchera Peach Flambé
Heuchera Tiramisu
Hosta Blue Mouse Ears
Hosta Ghostmaster
Hosta Invincible
Hosta Mighty Mouse
Hosta Orange Marmelade
Hosta Whirlwind
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One grower showed a Dichelostemma. There are some arguments about the naming, if it's D. capitatum
or D. pulchellum. This one was collected by the grower together with Jane McGary in Oregon.
Dichelostemma pulchellum
Among the other entries was a group of Hyacinths. The grower prepared a lot of these to
bring to the Chelsea Show and showed some pots here too.
Hyacinthus Group
There was a nice entry of Iris again
Iris TB Arpege
Iris TB Pinnacle
Iris TB Skyfire
Iris TB Superstition
and some varied other entries.
Paeonia Lemon Chiffon
Paeonia Mackinac Grand
Tulbaghia cominsii x violacea
Scilla litardierei
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Some great plants in there Luit. I specially like the coloured leaf Heucheras. 'Dark secret' would fit in well in the new black garden I'm planning, as would the TB Iris 'Superstition.'
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Very nice ones Luit.
Will these be masspropagated so that they will be available in many/most garden centers? In a few years time. They would greatly improve the ones that are here now.
Hope this is the case since some would be very welcome in my garden. ::) :o ;D
Kind regards
Joakim
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Did you mean Iris Joakim? Heuchea and Hosta are already masspropagated in a way that there are more than enough in trade.
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Luit I was thinking of the nice ones You showed that are much nicer than what usually exists of the Heuchea and I hoped that the Iris and Paeonia that are very nice also would be mass propageted so that they would be more easily available. Paeonias only come in three colours (white, pink and red) here and they might not even come true as doubles.
So I hoped that these nicer versions would be more available. Maybe I am in a slower end of the trade so that it takes long time for new things to show up but I live in the hope that they do eventually. I think they end up here if they are mass produced but not if they are only produced by smaller producers.
I thought that the show showed what the future of the mass market would be even if not all will be mass produced it shows the trends of the future?
Thanks for the pics and reports
Joakim
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Monday was a special day for Astilbe and Allium entries.
In this batch I show some of them.
Many others I pictured already last year:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.135 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.135)
Allium carolinianum
Allium caspium
Allium cassium var. hirtellum
Allium nevskianum
Allium fistulosum
Allium hyalinum
Allium litvinovii
Allium Universe
Allium oreophilum Agalik's Giant
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and some of the other entries:
Astilbe
Alstroemeria pulchra var. lavandulacea
Paeonia Command Performance
Watsonia coccinea
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Luit,
thanks for the alliums photos. This year A. litvinovii is nicely gentian blue - is it a new form?
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Better picture, less zoom. This picture is more likely than last year.
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Luit,
thanks for the mouth watering pictures :P :P :P
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This week had Heuchera and Hosta as special themes. I pictured some of both
Heuchera Caramel
Heuchera Dark Secret
Heuchera Peach Flambé
Heuchera Tiramisu
Hosta Blue Mouse Ears
Hosta Ghostmaster
Hosta Invincible
Hosta Mighty Mouse
Hosta Orange Marmelade
Hosta Whirlwind
Luit, the colourings of the Heucheras are fabulous (Dark secret my fourite) and the Hostas are really lovely too - foliage plants are so wonderful :)
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Luit, PLEASE don't mention cricket! ;D
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Luit, PLEASE don't mention cricket! ;D
David, please explain....
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Dear Luit - I'm afraid it will hurt David EVEN more if he is forced to explain in writing how the Netherlands trounced England at one of our national sports, cricket yesterday. This once popular sport in your country is now 26th in your rankings of national sports - probably on a par with nude karate or tandem pole vaulting!!! It would, of course, have hurt David EVEN MORE if Lesley had explained this first!!! ;D
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;D ;D ;D If Lesley has heard it about I expect we shall get a comment! ::)
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I suspect Lesley may be diverted by the fact that the New Zealand team beat the Scots team today!! :P
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Good.
Lesley being diverted I mean, but, having said that ther's a certain joy at seeing the Scots get (another!) thrashing. :P
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Now I do understand. I had to look at tele text about this. In Holland we only know of cricket, that there are running some white
dressed men with some sort of bat and a ball on a green field, but most of us think that this is a sport for middle-aged men. ;D ;D
Today was tennis and at the moment the Dutch play football on Iceland and that counts more.
Maybe we see two minutes on TV later tonight :-\
Good.
Lesley being diverted I mean, but, having said that ther's a certain joy at seeing the Scots get (another!) thrashing. :P
Sound like words spoken by an Englishman ;D ;D ;D Ooooops... :-X :-X
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Now that you've all finished talking about me in my absence..... :)
I was of course delighted to hear the Dutch beat the English (wearing orange this time Luit, not white). One always likes the underdog to win. :D As for the Kiwis beating the Scots, so they jolly well should have.
We'll probably do quite well overall in the competition, until we come to a grinding halt - yet again - against the Aussies. ??? Then it will be Paul's turn to comment.
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Stopped by who? Aussie have been eliminated, I think they were the first team ousted :) What a shame that was, oh well they can all go and join Symonds for a quick beer and watch the next State of origin match :P
I was happy with both the results, my name and heritage is dutch and I am obviously from New Zealand and a big black caps fan.
Regards
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I read that in the Netherlands are 7 cricket fields ::) ::) ;D
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Quality goes before quantity Luit ! ;D ;D ;D
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I read that in the Netherlands are 7 cricket fields ::) ::) ;D
The medium size town of Rochdale has at least 7 semi-professional cricket grounds ... each boasting two or three teams.
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Back to the flowers.
This week the show hall was almost totally filled with Iris hollandica in vases.
Obviously there are some other colors than blue and yellow ...
The first picture shows part of the entries
Iris hollandica
Iris hollandica Cream Beauty
Iris hollandica Gipsy Beauty
Iris hollandica Lion King
Iris hollandica Mickey Ocean
Iris hollandica Oriental Beauty
Iris hollandica Shooting Star
Iris hollandica Mickey Purple
Iris hollandica Mickey Sea
Iris hollandica Nofa White
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and a few more Iris
Iris hollandica Silvery Beauty
Iris hollandica Sky Beauty
Iris hollandica Sky Wings
A very nice red Ixia, the second pict. shows it when open a week later
Ixia Jesse
Ixia Jesse 2
and some other entries:
Conanthera campanulata
Sprekelia formosissima
Chlidanthus fragrans
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Very colourful indeed Luit. Maybe my Sprekelia will flower this year.
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I think among those lovely Dutch irises, I like 'Silvery Beauty' best but they're all beautiful. I like the bronzy colours too.
Yes Kees, I was SOOOOO sad about the Australians being eliminated from the cricket. Almost burst into tears about it. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. But we made a right mess of things this morning, with South Africa beating the Black Caps with just 127 runs on the board. Shocking. But never mind, we're through to the next round anyway. :D
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Amongst lots of Iris, Allium etc. there were several other interesting entries to see this week.
Like the first picture of a bulbous plant from Chile, which I never saw before.
Pasithea coerulea
Arisaema candidissima
Allium atropurpureum
Begonia bertinii
Primula florindae Ray's Ruby
Ixia group
Ixia Spotlight
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And one grower showed some beauties of hardy Geranium:
Geranium group
Geranium sanguineum Tiny Monster
Geranium Cluden Sapphire
Geranium sanguineum Lightning Soil
Geranium versicolor
Geranium Dragon Heart
Geranium Corsa
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Beeeeeautiful, Luit!!! G. Corsa is divine.
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Corsa and Dragon Heart are my choice - maybe I'm beguiled by seconds one's name ::)
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Amongst lots of Iris, Allium etc. there were several other interesting entries to see this week.
Like the first picture of a bulbous plant from Chile, which I never saw before.
Pasithea coerulea
Luit, please have a look at Flowers and Foliage now - Reply 334, May 20th 09!
Nevertheless quite amazing which rare plants are shown in Lisse! Always interesting!
Gerd
Edit by Maggi: it is here! http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3510.msg94054#msg94054
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Is it possible that I see so many pictures of plants on this Forum, that I some of them don't remember
after some weeks ? ::) ::) ::)
Or has it something to do with aging :-\..... :o
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Luit, I can tell you for sure that there are so many plants on this forum that sometimes I do not remember them after a few hours, let alone days or weeks! ::) :-[
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Or has it something to do with aging
Luit, I know the feeling very well, my family call it Alzheimers, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Since my beloved Father suffered with that awful disease, as have too many of his relatives, I can only hope in my case for it not to be so. :-X I much prefer to think of any lapses as minor overload. :-\
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Hi Luit:
Pasithea is not a bulbous plant, it is a common herbaceous perennial with the most striking deep blue flowers.
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Luit, I can tell you for sure that there are so many plants on this forum that sometimes I do not remember them after a few hours, let alone days or weeks! ::) :-[
Quote from: Michael J Campbell
Or has it something to do with aging
Luit, I know the feeling very well, my family call it Alzheimers,
Thank goodness, I am so relieved to read Maggi’s and Michael’s words… :D :D :D :D :D
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Hi Luit:
Pasithea is not a bulbous plant, it is a common herbaceous perennial with the most striking deep blue flowers.
Thank you Alberto, will have to research better before writing. If I don’t forget… :-\ ;D ;D
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Is it possible that I see so many pictures of plants on this Forum, that I some of them don't remember
after some weeks ? ::) ::) ::)
Or has it something to do with aging :-\..... :o
Luit, Isn't it calming to be in good company here. There are so many things I don't remember even after a short while.
The most irritating occurence for me is that I loose my tiny garden hoe nearly once in a week. Everytime the same - I throw it into a plastic bag together with the weeds and put the bag aside. After some time when I decide to weed again I miss my little favorite tool. Then I must empty the weed filled bags used recently in order to find the garden hoe. So I waste a lot of time. On the other hand it is a joyful moment when I have it back ;D ;D ;D
I add a pic of my little gem!
Gerd
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Luit,
Love those two Geraniums. All are very nice though. Thanks.
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Your little hoe looks very well used Gerd, which testifies to what a useful tool it is. Guard it carefully. Perhaps someone should start a thread with favourite tools? Many have an interesting history with them.
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Luit,
Love those two Geraniums.
Which two Paul? ;D ;)
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Oops. :-[ I was so taken by 'Dragon Heart' and 'Corsa' that I didn't even realise that the others in that post were Geraniums as well. I must have just tuned them completely out and focused on the last two alone. How embarrassing. :-[
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Paul, when I came to the table with the entries I just saw these two varieties first.
They were really eyecatching, so actually I did understand what you meant, but had to ask for the good order... ;)
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Well I can take some comfort from the fact I wasn't alone. ;D
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Hi Luit:
No bullying implied! But Pasithea are often lost because it is treated harsh and dry as if it were a bulb. It has fleshy "octopus" roots somehow like an Anthericum or Chlorophytum, that cn dry out easily.
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Pasithea are often lost because it is treated harsh and dry as if it were a bulb. It has fleshy "octopus" roots somehow like an Anthericum or Chlorophytum, that can dry out easily.
That's good to know as I've just germinated some from Seedex seed!
Thanks, Alberto.
And thanks, Luit, for the pics.
cheers
fermi
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Fermi,
I've got some that are in their second year. I really must get around to repotting them. Maybe after I finish my contract at work on the 30th and have some free time. ::) SO much to repot. :o
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Hi Fermi:
It comes from a Mediterranean climate and grows very well at UCBG at Berkeley, California, where the winter is sunny and chilly. The critic time is of course, summer, when the roots must not dry off.
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Thank you all for your comments. It's good to know that you don't (just) have a look at my pictures, but criticize me when I write some rubbish. That keeps me sharp, which again is good to repress the eventual Alzheimer ::) ;D ;D
This week I pictured only bulb flowers! ;)
We were very much surprised to see flowers of a Muscari after the longest day of the year.
Muscari Etude
And we saw some breeding improvements in Dichelostemma.
Dichelostemma ida- maia
Dichelostemma Red Empire
Dichelostemma Red Princess
And I picked some cultivars out of a big entry of Triteleia.
I showed some more last year already. http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.msg48237#msg48237 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.msg48237#msg48237)
Triteleia Pink Heaven
Triteleia Powerpoint
Triteleia Ellen
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Luit,
these are very impressive pics :o - I love'm all! ;D
Who is breeding the Triteleia? Do you know which species have been used? The "Powerpoint" one certainly is a different shade to what I've seen before.
cheers
fermi
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It is, isn't it Fermi (although I only grow one or two, I haven't seen pics of that colour before). I am particularly taken by the Muscari Etude though. Fantastic flower colouration!! And such wonderful leaves for a Muscari to. ;) ;D :P
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I think I would plump for Triteleia 'Ellen' ... such a delightful flower.
Many thanks (as always), Luit.
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That Muscari is certainly a most unusual colour for the genus. Hope it reaches the commercial world soon, and maybe finds its way to li'l ol' NZ. :)
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Luit,
these are very impressive pics :o - I love'm all! ;D
Who is breeding the Triteleia? Do you know which species have been used? The "Powerpoint" one certainly is a different shade to what I've seen before.
cheers
fermi
Fermi, the Triteleia are bred by a growers combination, known as group under the name: The Revolutions.
The selling etc. is done by one trader, here is the Website:
http://www.boltha.nl (http://www.boltha.nl)
I am afraid it is only in Dutch, but there are some pictures and something
about history and a lot of links to traders etc.
You could try some questions to Mr. Jan van den Berg about the Triteleia breeding.
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There were again many entries with Triteleia, but I will start with some other interesting
plants.
Albuca shawii
Albuca nelsonii
Phlox Jessica
Allium Dready 1
Allium Dready 2
Brodiaea Babylon
Triteleia laxa double Seedl.
Triteleia peduncularis x bridgesii
Triteleia Yellow Star
Triteleia Waterfall
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Beautiful Trits, Luit. And that Allium is rather strange with it's dreadlocks. ;D Cool. 8)
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The Triteleia look amazng, Luit, and the flowers so perfect - I have the more ordinary Queen Fabiola flowering in the raised bed at the moment in their 3rd year. They take ages to come in to flower with the leaves first but I love the way they grow and hold their heads up to the sun, great blue too :)
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What beautiful Brodiaea and Triteleia selections Luit. The thing I find odd, having seen so many of the beautiful selections you have photographed for us, is that I never see them in the catalogues of the specialist bulb suppliers because they do not, in the main, interest their market, but nor do I seem to see them in the garden centres which consistently stock only the common varieties. The breeders must be selling them but they don't seem to get into the British market place.
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Thank you all for the nice comments, but the pleasure is on me because I am able to see them all with my own eyes :D
David, you can always make some inquiries at the Website I gave above.
If you don't get an answer you might inform me. I see the man almost every week.
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Luit,
Thanks for the website - something to investigate when I have more time.
And some more fabulous flowers,especially the Triteleia hybrids - but that Allium! :o All those bulbils ready to spread across the garden at the first chance they get! Too much like some of the weed species we already have in the country.
cheers
fermi
PS that double T. laxa has the same look as Wahlenbergia stricta "Blue mist"!
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Fermi, these Allium are grown for cutflower production here.
I believe these types are all forms of A. vineale and it started with the selection 'Hair', which now is
often offered in bulb catalogues, so this one will follow soon I think.
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Special entries of Agapanthus were invited for this week.
There were a lot of entries with flowers in vases and in pots.
For most pot it was a bit early as they were not really flowering, but in a few weeks there is
another special with Agapanthus.
I show just one of the entries in pots to show what we can expect later.
Agapanthus Madurodam
Agapanthus Saville Blue
Agapanthus Sofie
Agapanthus Stephanie Charm
and there were many other entries:
Tulbaghia maritima
Crocosmia Lucifer
Cosmos peucedanifolius 1
Cosmos peucedanifolius 2
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and some more:
Dianthus erinaceus var. alpinus
Lilium Pink Tiger 1
Lilium Pink Tiger 2
Galtonia regalis 1
Galtonia regalis 2
Lilium leichtlinii
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Special entries of Agapanthus were invited for this week.
There were a lot of entries with flowers in vases and in pots.
For most pot it was a bit early as they were not really flowering, but in a few weeks there is
another special with Agapanthus.
I show just one of the entries in pots to show what we can expect later.
Agapanthus Madurodam
Agapanthus Saville Blue
Agapanthus Sofie
Agapanthus Stephanie Charm
Looking forward to more Agapanthus from the Flowershow - Stephanie Charm is very elegant but I love the blues too :)
It's wonderful to see so many gorgeous, tantalising entries, Luit, thanks for showing them :o
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And a good, true Dianthus erinaceus. I can almost feel the pain! ;D Having said that, it is much better grown out in the open air than under glass. The plant is tighter, bluer, and more floriferous. No doubt more vicious too. ???
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This week we saw a very nice small Gladiolus. It's a cross where Gladiolus nanus was used.
Another interestin item was one of the newer forms of Echinacea.
Some forms of Echinacea make nice big flower heads and flower arrangers like it to use them without petals.
I show first a picture without petals and one of the same cultivar after a week in a vase.
Gladiolus seedling
Gladiolus seedl. cl.
Echinacea White Mist 1
Echinacea White Mist 2
Crinum powellii Alba
Lilium Nettie's Pride
Babiana stricta
Chasmanthe floribunda
Chasmanthe floribunda var. duckittii
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Luit,
Fascinating Lilium. Love the Chasmanthe.
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Mmmm, me too, and the Babiana, lovely.
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All very interesting , Luit, and I am fascinated by the look of the two shots of:
Echinacea White Mist 1
Echinacea White Mist 2
I think I almost prefer number 1, without the petals - although it wouldn't then be named 'white mist' rather 'orange sun' ;)
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Luit,
that Gladdie is certainly interesting - a bit like Rogan's "jammy mouth" flower he showed on another thread! "Nettie's pride" Lilium is alos a bit of a break from the usual.
cheers
fermi
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My absence from the Forum has been caused by several weeks of holidays and lots of different other things to do afterwards and of work in the garden. Not finished yet, but some more time to post in the Forum :-\.
This week there were some entries of Dahlia and a great display of named Colchicum.
Just for a restart in this thread a picture of this entry.
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Welcome back Luit :D
Are these cultivars of C. autumnale? I like the dark forms in particular 8)
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Mmmmm... middle at the back and far left at the back look beautifully dark. 8)
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Welcome back and I'm looking forward to your next lot of postings, Luit, what a fabulous opening display of Colchicum :)
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Welkom thuis Luit !
Looking forward to see these Colchicum from a little closer ! ;)
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Amongst the different entries there were:
species like C. tenorii, C. pannonicum, C. laetum, C. byzantinum
and Cultivars Innocence, Lilac Bedder, Disraeli, Violet Queen and William Dykes
The light was not good enough to picture the flowers with the right colors, so I cannot show them apart.
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This Monday it was a sunny day outside and the light in the hall was
much better than last week.
And there was a new entry with Colchicum too, so here some pictures of them.
Just the group of Crocosmia I had to photograph against the light
I show two pictures though to show what I mean with bad light to
make pictures
Colchicum atticum
Colchicum Harlekijn
Colchicum Autumn Herald
Colchicum Conquest
Colchicum Giant
Colchicum Poseidon
Colchicum Innocence
Colchicum Rosy Dawn
Colchicum Violet Queen
Colchicum Waterlily
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batch 2:
Colchicum William Dykes
Colchicum Zephyr
Crocosmia group 1
Crocosmia group 2
Nerine filifolia
Sternbergia lutea Angustifolia
Tritonia laxifolia
Tritonia lineata var. parviflora
x Amarygia parkeri Alba
Bessera elegans
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Wonderful photos, Luit!
Colchicums are great! I like 'Poseidon' the best. Dark-coloured cultivars as 'Conquest' and 'Violate Queen' are also appealing. I have no words about 'Harlekijn' - very odd-ball exotic variety, which deserves growing. I obtained some bulbs of it last year, but they didn't come up. Sometimes it happens, especially beacuse of late shipment. But generally the bulbs don't die, but split into several smaller ones. Must check them in these days.
Amarygia parkeri Alba is an inetersting plant. Never seen it before. Resembles somwhat amaryllis.
Tritonias look nice.
Thanks for showing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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As usual, lovely pics Luit. Whenever I see pics of Colchicum I always wish I had grown some but the leaves do put me off.
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Luit, thank you for your autumn greetings with these a lot of autumn flowers. Your colchicum series is a pleasure. Could you show us a few more some times later???
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As usual, lovely pics Luit. Whenever I see pics of Colchicum I always wish I had grown some but the leaves do put me off.
David,
the leaves??? To me, they are very nice and make a good display in the garden during spring, especially those with very robust big leaves. Some people grow hostas for garden decorations, but I think that colchicums are also not bad for this purpose.
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Lovely postings from the Lisse Flowershow, Luit, the Colchicums are all so attractive in their own way and Conquest is a gorgeous dark colour with light stems. Crocosmia and Nerine filifolia outstanding too - thanks
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Today I made pictures of the following plants at the show.
In the Show Hall the temps are kept around 15˚C ,which means that there is
much ventilation needed, therefore some flowers never stand still, like here the
Crocosmia and these pictures are a bit blurred.
Crocosmia John Boots
Crocosmia Mistral
Dahlia Hamari Gold
Dahlia Hillcrest Matt 1
Dahlia Hillcrest Matt 2
Dahlia Striped Vulcan 1
Dahlia Striped Vulcan 2
Dahlia Sarah Mae
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next
Rhodophiala advena
Dahlia Henriëtte 1
Dahlia Henriëtte 2
Zephyranthes candida
Zephyranthes candida cl
Scadoxus multiflorus
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No problem with those smart Dahlias blooms moving in the breeze... they are too sturdy for such movement! I must say, I do find these Dahlias strangely attractive......I am quite converted to them!
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Sarah Mae is absolutely wild :o I really like it, although normally I prefer the deeper reds and simpler forms, the others remind me a little of Elizabethan ruffs - starchy and upright! My Mother used to grow Dahlias for the local market and I do remember loving the cactus ones with sparkling dew on them as I cut them :D
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Luit, thank you for your autumn greetings with these a lot of autumn flowers. Your colchicum series is a pleasure. Could you show us a few more some times later???
Hagen,
during the last weeks I made pictures of flowering Colchicum at the Connoisseur Collection.
There are some which come origially from P. Visser.
You may see them there now.
Here is the link:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1331.msg109594#msg109594 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1331.msg109594#msg109594)
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Thank you for the tip, Luit. The pics are very helpful.
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Luit - I recall the fantastic show of Nerine bowdenii at Lisse last year. You posted from the Show on the 14th of October. Will they have another display of them next week? ::) ::)
johnw
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Hi John,
if you would have looked at the Events pages (Discussion Weekend) you might have seen that I
was there and I will not be able to know what's going on at Lisse.
Driving slowly down from Scotland through British rural countryside is a chance which we have taken instead of flying home quick :D :D :D 8) 8) 8)
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The Monday before we left for the Discussion Weekend I made pictures
of the Show, but had no time left to send them then.
It was a nice show and there were a lot of variable entries.
Many flowers, like Watsonia were never shown before here.
Batch one:
Oxalis Ken Aslet
Crocosmia [?] Jackanapes
Crocosmia Constance
Crocosmia Star of the East
Echinacea
Echinacea Hot Summer
Echinacea Irresistible
Echinacea Orange Luxury
Echinacea Razzmatazz
Echinacea Summer Breeze
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These Echinacea are startling colours.... they speak loudly of summer when the autumn is coming! Really cheerful flowers........how nice it would be to have some space for these plants. :(
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I like Sarah Mae too Robin. I'll bet she dances a mean shimmy! (There's a resurrection of an old song called "She's a Mod" doing the rounds here at present. SM would be in her element there, with wild hair shaking all around. ;D)
And I'm so pleased to see Crocosmia 'Star of the East' as I'm able at last (after at least 10 years) to identify mine, one of a small collection given to me years ago, with names but not attached to individual plants. S of the E was one name and I now know on which plant to put it. :D
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And I'm so pleased to see Crocosmia 'Star of the East' as I'm able at last (after at least 10 years) to identify mine, one of a small collection given to me years ago, with names but not attached to individual plants. S of the E was one name and I now know on which plant to put it. :D
Glad to be of help Lesley!
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Batch two:
Eucomis Au Mer
Eucomis bicolor mut.
Watsonia Flamboyant
Watsonia Peach Glow 1
Watsonia Peach Glow 2
Watsonia Snow Queen
Leucanthemum Old Court Variety
Watsonia Ablaze
Watsonia aletroides
Watsonia Cherry Splash
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Luit,
Fantastic pics as always. I love those Echinaceas... amazing colours and forms. And the seedheads on the Eucomis..... ooh i want to see what the seedlings would turn out like. ;D ;D
Thanks for the pics. 8)
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This week again some very interesting entries
Grasses were especially invited for the show and some of them are shown here.
Carex morrowii Ice Ballett
Carex Silver Sceptre
Miscanthus 1
Miscanthus 2
Miscanthus Ferner Osten
Pennisetum Red Head
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A big entry of Astilbe in very good quality:
Astilbe group 1
Astilbe group 2
Astilbe group 3
Astilbe
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There were several autumn flowering bulbs to see too:
Colchicum baytopiorum
Colchicum procurrens
Crocus goulimyi
Crocus speciosus Cassiope
Oxalis anomala
more to come later....
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Superb (as usual) Luit ... many thanks for posting.
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Great bunch of photos Luit!
I liked the Colchicum baytopiorum since it flowers with it foliage, but maybe I should not like it and get used to naked flowering instead? ::)
Great to see so strong Astilbe in great colours. 8)
The Eucomis seems like aliens and are great to see. :o
Thanks a lot ;D
Kind regards
Joakim
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A wonderful show, Luit, the setting is perfect for showing of these lovely flowers and plants in the lower Autumn light....the display has meandering feel about it which must lead you on to the next display.
The grasses on show are wonderful and of particular interest to me as there are so many varieties here in the Alps which I have not seen before as well - they look very at home on the mountains in harsh dry and shady wet.
Lovely Oxalis, Crocus, Colchicum and the Astilbe are magnificent, thanks :)
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Thanks for the replies, friends!
A wonderful show, Luit, the setting is perfect for showing of these lovely flowers and plants in the lower Autumn light....the display has meandering feel about it which must lead you on to the next display.
Robin, I was not aware of the possibility to look in such a romantic way to the plants when visiting the show ;)
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Some very nice Nerine:
Nerine bowdenii Alba
Nerine bowdenii Stephanie
Nerine Joan
Nerine Red Pimpernel
Nerine wellsii
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And a new Geranium shown by the breeder of Geranium Jolly Bee:
Hopefully there is more difference as there is between G. Rozanne
and Jolly Bee?
Geranium Havana Blues
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One exhibitor showed a totally new plant which caused the committee some
trouble, because the name was not written right and we could not find
anything about it in literature.
One member of the jury remembered making a picture of the plant in S. Africa and
could give later the right name.
This plant is seemingly in culture in Japan and was shown here with the
cultivar name: Ice Cristal
It is Fincinia and probably F.truncata (Cyperaceae) from S. Africa
Ficinia [truncata] 1
Ficinia [truncata] 2
Ficinia [truncata] flower head
Would love to know if there are Forum members on the S.H. , especially S. Africa, who can tell
some more about this very attractive plant.
Edit 28.10. with pictures right named
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Luit,
brilliant and unusual images (as usual :D) - Are there more croci pictures to come?
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Nice ones
Are all the nerines shown able to be grown outside in the Netherlands?
They are great looking ones. There was a talk earlier about white nerienes in an other thread.
Great to see them here.
Kind regards
Joakim
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It is Fincinia and probably F.truncata (Cyperaceae) from S. Africa
Fincinia [truncata] 1
Fincinia [truncata] 2
Fincinia [truncata] flower head
Would love to know if there are Forum members on the S.H. , especially S. Africa, who can tell
some more about this very attractive plant.
A few images can be found on this link, Luit ... not much help but it may be of interest?
http://sophy.u-3mrs.fr/Afriqsud/LIENPLAN.HTM
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Having a search around for this plant , I discover that while I ccan find a few references to "Fincinia" the RHS database only recognises "Ficinia" and I think that the plant at Lisse is thus a Ficinia ;)
Have found a few online references to Ficinia truncata
......http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantefg/ficinia.htm
http://www.aluka.org/action/showCompilationPage?doi=10.5555/AL.AP.COMPILATION.PLANT-NAME-SPECIES.FICINIA.TRUNCATA&cookieSet=1
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Thanks Cliff, every bit is helpfull
Having a search around for this plant , I discover that while I ccan find a few references to "Fincinia" the RHS database only recognises "Ficinia" and I think that the plant at Lisse is thus a Ficinia ;)
Maggi, here is seen again how wrong names often occur. 8) 8) :o
It is my spelling fault. I saw the first website of S.A. too and wrote the wrong name despite reading.
We will next Monday talk about this matter and then I will probably change my picture names.
Not as an excuse, but the plant was sent under the name Fincima, which was to find nowhere...
Now we need only somebody who this plant possibly has in culture and knows more about hardiness etc. ;D ;D
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Maggi, here is seen again how wrong names often occur.
Yes, it is so very easy to make a mistake, with reading a label or with typing ....or with memory, as often happens with me! :-[ :-X At least with the latin names we stand a chance of finding the correct name eventually ! ::) ;)
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In November there are mostly not so many entries in the Show Hall.
But the few shown are interesting though:
Gladiolus carmineus
Ipheion sessile
Nerina bowdenii (unknown Cultivar)
Crocus cartwrightianus Pale Clone
Nerine undulata
Nerine undulata cl.
Nerine manselli
Nerine manselli cl.
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Really interesting and well grown Luit - lovely Nerines and the C Crocus cartwrightianus Pale Clone is just gorgeous
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More lovely things Luit, many thanks. The Nerine manselli is very nice with sublte colouring, not just red.
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Luit,
the C. cartwrightianus "Pale Clone" looks much better than the picture in P.C. Nijssen 2009 catalogue ;) A pity that I haven't ordered some.
My C. cartwrightianus /C. sativus in the garden start to flower but the weather is miserable - cold, windy and rain and rain >:(
If no sunshine the next couple of days - buds will wither and decompose with out having opened :'(
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This week we saw flowers of Chasmanthe which were cut outside and looked remarkably nice.
The exhibitor also showed a vase with Chasmanthe seeds to show the use as cutflowers too.
Most interesting was a plate with berries from another exhibitor.
At the first look the orange berries were of Iris foetidissima,
but they were from Littonia modesta. Not really a 'must have' plant for the garden, but the collected fruits look great.
Chasmanthe floribunda Saturnus 1
Chasmanthe floribunda Saturnus 2
Chasmanthe tuber
Nerine flexuosa Alba
Littonia modesta and Staphylea colchica
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Luit,
what a beautiful 'snack' arrangement! I'd never seen seedpods from either.
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the C. cartwrightianus "Pale Clone" looks much better than the picture in P.C. Nijssen 2009 catalogue ;) A pity that I haven't ordered some.
I'm not allowed to order from Nijssen anymore because I complained about wrong bulbs
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Mark,
WYSIWYG - seem not to work for bulb supplieres.
A never ending story causing annual repeating annoyances >:(
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My favourite is the Crocus cartwrightianus Pale Clone , absolutely beautiful.
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Armin I don't see it in their catalogue
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Armin I don't see it in their catalogue
It's there Mark, along with a photo of C. hadriaticus pretending to be C. niveus.
Edit
Go to 'Fotogallery' where you will find C. cartwrightianus 'Pale Clone'. I wonder what this is? It is suspiciously cheap at 10 corms for 11€.
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Despite the time of year there were some nice flowers this week:
Crocus laevigatus var. fontenayi
Galanthus reginae-olgae
Iris planifolia ln Marokko
Narcissus Ariël
A nice short staying substitute for so called Paperwhite Narcissus.
Narcissus romieuxii
Nerine Hera 1
Nerine Hera 2
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Iris planifolia is the pick of that bunch, for me. :D
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nice ones :)
Did the Nerine Hera bloom with foliage up?
It seems there to be some foliage in the photo but it might be from an other plant.
Nice plant is it hardy to almost frost or even hardier?
Thanks for showing
Kind regards
Joakim
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Again many thanks for taking the time to take photos at the display
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stunning Gladiolus carmineus but gladi's are my favourite plants,also like Lesley love the Iris planifolia
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That's a very red carmineus compared with mine.
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Lesley,
your G. carmineus is very beautiful too 8)
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nice ones :)
Did the Nerine Hera bloom with foliage up?
It seems there to be some foliage in the photo but it might be from an other plant.
Nice plant is it hardy to almost frost or even hardier?
Thanks for showing
Kind regards
Joakim
Joakim, yes there were some leaves. Nerine Hera belongs to the N. bowdenii Group.
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Thank for the information Luit.
I will look out for it and similar.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Again a small harvest this week, but I noted the following entries for you:
Haemanthus deformis 1
Haemanthus deformis 2
The first Hyacinths of this winter season on the show benches:
Hyacinthus multiflorus pink
Hyacinthus Atlantic
Hyacinthus Bright Eyes
Iris unguicularis Walter Butt 1
Iris unguicularis Walter Butt 2
The last entry of this week:
This plant is mostly seen in flower during September/October, but since some
years I am trying how they flower outside when repotted rather late and just left
the watering etc. to nature.
Here is this year's result:
Scilla lingulata
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As usual Luit you brighten my day. I wish my Iris unguicularis looked as pristine as the ones you have shown.
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As usual Luit you brighten my day.
Before or after your single malt David? ;D ;D ;)
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Scilla lingulata is a beauty Luit, especially in a good clump like that and I really like the pink Hyacinth multiflorus. It has a more "natural" appearance than the very formal and stiff kinds. Thank you for these lovely pictures.
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Scilla lingulata is a beauty Luit, especially in a good clump like that
I agree with Lesley, Luit !
Very nice potful !
Thanks for showing !
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Great selection Luit. Thanks!
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What a cheerful sight on such a dank, drear day. Thanks Luit!
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Every year the Royal Bulb Growers Society (KAVB) organizes a special
Christmas Show, which is also the last Weekly Show of the year.
This Monday there were many entries of flowering bulbs.
So I saw an entry of Dutch Iris in a very good quality for the time
of year.
Special on this entry was that the bulbs were grown and harvested in
France in 2008 and hold back till this autumn and now producing
the flowers in Portugal for cutflower purposes.
Iris hollandica coll.
Iris Blue Magic
Iris Casablanca
Iris Professor Blaauw
Iris Telstar
Nearby were some vases with beautiful Alstroemeria.
Alstroemeria Corfu
Alstroemeria Ilsa 1
Alstroemeria Nadya 1
Alstroemeria Roselyn
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Outside the Hall in the Trade Centre was an enormous entry of
Hippeastrum, with many new cultivars of different Groups.
Hippeastrum [judging]
Hippeastrum Traviata
Hippeastrum Colibri Group 1
Hippeastrum Colibri Group 1a
Hippeastrum Spider Group Melfi
And some very good entries of Hyacinths:
Hyacinthus coll.
Hyacinthus
Hyacinthus multiflorus
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Ofcourse there were tulips:
Tulipa
Tulipa Christmas Gift
Tulipa Dutch Design
Tulipa Marrero
And finally some more Hippeastrum.
Hippeastrum Babyface
Hippeastrum Colibri Group
Hippeastrum Pompidou
Hippeastrum group
This was the last Weekly Show of 2009!
May these flowers cheer you up in these dark days before Christmas.. :D
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.... and they did Luit, thank you.
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What colour for this time of year. I find the story of the Dutch Iris via France to Portugal for the cut flower market most interesting....and how lovely they are.
Everything looks so perfect... so well displayed.... even after a long year the exhibitors are still working at the top of their skills.
The Hippeastrum with the golden yellow/apricot tones are stunning..... different than anything I have seen... so pretty.
A real treat for us, as always, Luit.... Thank You very much! 8) :-*
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When we should have masses of floral displays at this time of year - the roses are good - it's such a miserable summer so far Luit, that your lovely shots are a great lifter-of-the-spirits here too. I thank you for them with all my heart.
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That really is a treat Luit, thank you so much for all your time and hard work putting the photos up for us during the year. It is one of the threads that I look forward to seeing when I log on. Happy Christmas to you and your family.
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What a cheerful sight, Luit. Thank you for sharing.
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Wow, Luit. Spectacular displays. I hope that Alstroemeria 'Corfu' makes it out here one day and available to home gardeners.... such a wonderfully dark colour to it. And the Hippeastrums!! :o :o :o
Thanks for showing us.
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to me Hyacinthus multiflorus is much nicer that the other Hyacinths
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Thanks so much for these pics, Luit.
The flowers are spectacular - a wonderful Christmas Show!
cheers
fermi
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Wouldn't it be great to be able to have all the christmas decorations in your house be made from glorious fresh flowers like these? 8)
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Thanks Luit for a year of Lisse, one of the best threads we have.
johnw
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Luit,
those cybister-bred Hippeastrums are wonderful. So hard to find them, although I've managed 2 or three over the years. Thanks for brightening-up the season.!
jamie
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Luit, I have only just visited your wonderful Lisse Flowershow you posted before Christmas and what a wonderful warm glowing show it is - I just love the setting and every display is tip top beautifully photographed and presented thank you so much for this wonderful thread I always look forward to :)
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Luit, I have only just visited your wonderful Lisse Flowershow you posted before Christmas and what a wonderful warm glowing show it is - I just love the setting and every display is tip top beautifully photographed and presented thank you so much for this wonderful thread I always look forward to :)
Robin, in this thread there a maybe some more pictures to warm you up?
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4795.0 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4795.0)
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I do hope it is o.k. when I show this year again pictures of the weekly Shows from Lisse
During the former years I showed already many pictures, so it is possible that I show
some, which you already saw here.
Therefore I will show less pictures because it is likely that in such a short time not
so many new varieties will show up.
Here are some pictures of flowers, shown in the last two weeks.
I want to say on the forehand that I show flowers of the show, which does not mean
automatically that I like all flowers personally.
Narcissus
During the last years growers try to perform Narcissus with special treatment of the bulbs for pot culture.
People may buy these in spring in bud, and plant them later in the garden.
Here a good example
Narcissus [pot] Attraction
Then some new narcissi which are not registered yet, because the names are sometimes not valid, or the name was used before, but maybe not in culture anymore:
Narcissus Sun Gold
Narcissus Play Fair
Narcissus New Innovator
and a few tulips:
Tulipa Dimension
Tulipa Cracker
Tulipa Holland Queen
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some more narcissi:
Narcissus Brackenhurst
Narcissus Big Gun 1
Narcissus Big Gun 2
Narcissus Trepolo
Narcissus Div. 8 Hugh Town (Matador x Grand Soleil d'Or)
Narcissus Div 4 Romanus (syn. Double Roman)
and some nice pots with snowdrops:
Galanthus 1
Galanthus 2
Galanthus Anglesey Abbey
Galanthus rizehensis
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wrong button...
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Thanks for these lovely pictures Luit. My vote would be for seeing again what we've already seen in previous years. After all, in our gardens the same bulbs appear each year (at least, we HOPE they do :)) and we are always delighted to welcome back old friends as they flower yet again. Besides, each year there are new Forumists who won't have seen what was shown last year.
Is Trepolo a new break? Not sure if I like it or not. :-\
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Luit, it's just lovely to spend winter days admiring the early flowers at Lisse...and I haven't seen them before so thank you for posting them - there are some very unusual looking Naricssus on show.
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Are the Dutch using micropropogation on snowdrops?
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Thanks Luit. I enjoy these visits to the Lisse Flowershow very much (though perhaps not the more 'developed' cultivars :P ;D).
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Are the Dutch using micropropogation on snowdrops?
Why should they Mark? The woods are full of them ;D
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Is Trepolo a new break? Not sure if I like it or not. :-\
Same for me Lesley, but I cannot answer you question.
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Luit,
please don't hesitate to show us flowers you've shown before! We have short memory spans! ;D
And we really enjoy these visits to your Shows.
cheers
fermi
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Thanks in advance for a new series of tours Luit !
As people said before me, we don't mind seeing the same nice things two years in a row, especially now in these gloomy days (we have snow again... ::) ) every ray of sunshine is welcome !
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You post 'em Luit, I'll read every one of them. ;D
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It's no hardship seeing anything again Luit, we just enjoy your postings from Lisse ;D
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Thank you all for the kind comments folks.
It's no hardship seeing anything again
but the naming and resizing of all the pictures IS ... ::) ::)
I will see how much time I can spare :-\
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Luit
I think we are a lot that appreciate the work You do to bring the show to us but do not say so that often enough.
It is nice to see the show this year again. The shows are never totally the same so You cover several different plants and You show a big spectrum for rock garden lowers and for mother-in-laws.
I hope You will have time and energy to keep this reports up for an other year.
Great variety and some are maybe more interesting then beautiful but all very nice to distract from the less flowery real world.
Kind regards
Joakim
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I'm sorry, but I strongly feel that plants like Narcissus Sun Gold are deformed monstruosities and I can't see why people grow them... Or is it just me? Why should we mess with nature's beauty as it is already there?
Hans
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At last! Someone who speaks his mind as plainly as - or even more so - than I do! And I agree with you Hans, about this one.
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I also don't like double daffodils as well as double tulips. My favourite group of diffodils is trumpets. But I know many who are very fond of doubles.
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I'm sorry, but I strongly feel that plants like Narcissus Sun Gold are deformed monstruosities and I can't see why people grow them... Or is it just me? Why should we mess with nature's beauty as it is already there?
Hans
Biting my tongue....
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Hans (and Lesley - whose avatar looks alarmingly alterred!)
I think the saying is "to each his own" - I personally like these monsters! They have a lot of impact in the garden and in a vase. But if you don't like them you just don't grow them ;D The problems really start when one member of the household really likes something like this and another hates it! Then you need two separate gardens! ;D
cheers
fermi
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I think the saying is "to each his own" - But if you don't like them you just don't grow them ;D
cheers
fermi
Right so it is ;)
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[.....The problems really start when one member of the household really likes something like this and another hates it! Then you need two separate gardens! ;D....]
That's why nobody wants to live with me ;D
And of course: "to each his own"!! Still we all do have our preferences....it would be a dull world without it...
Cheers, Hans
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(and Lesley - whose avatar looks alarmingly alterred!)
fermi
The result of a dare, to Mark McD, Fermi. Be very afraid! ;D But at least I'm not blue and I don't have a tail. (Oh no, please, no!) You notice too, that our Maggi has had a makeover. :D
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I, of course, look just as I ever have so no need for an avatar makeover ;D
(and Lesley - whose avatar looks alarmingly alterred!)
fermi
The result of a dare, to Mark McD, Fermi. Be very afraid! ;D But at least I'm not blue and I don't have a tail. (Oh no, please, no!) You notice too, that our Maggi has had a makeover. :D
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In the last two weeks we saw many entries with Narcissus:
Narcissus Willem's Choice
Narcissus All In
Narcissus Ara
Narcissus Sherwood Forest
N. roodcup
Narcissus Royal Dutch
Narcissus Wisley
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Some Tazettas with N. Matador crosses as main interest:
Narcissus Matador
Narcissus Martinette [ Matador x N. jonquilla]
Narcissus Castanets [ Matador x Grand Soleil d'Or]
Narcissus Royal Connection [ Matador x Grand Soleil d'Or]
Narcissus Bright Spangles [Matador open pollinated
Narcissus Tuggle Seedling
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Not only Narcissus or Tulipa were shown:
Group
Crocus kosaninii April View
Galanthus atkinsii Mocca's Strain
Galanthus atkinsii Mocca's Strain
Muscari Gul Delight
Tulipa humilis Lilliput
Narcissus asturiensis x N. Candlepower
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Some tulips:
Tulipa Quirin
Tulipa Remarkable
Tulipa Lornah
Tulipa Royal Love
Tulipa 1
Tulipa 2
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and in the last batch some narcissi again:
Narcissus gr
Narcissus Manly
Narcissus Trena
Narcissus T.L. 2
Narcissus India
Narcissus Ipi Tombi
Narcissus Lancaster
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As usual Luit lovely pics and thank you for taking the time to keep the series going.
Lots of lovely stuff but I have to say that my favourite was the Narcissus asturiensis x N. 'Candlepower'
Just a query here. I like the look of N. 'Lancaster' since my mum was born in Lancaster and I did a bit of research. According to Daffseek a plant in that name was registered by a Northern Ireland grower in 1977 and it doesn't look a bit like the plant in the Show. What do you think?
http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Lancaster&lastpage=1&which=hist1
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The Muscari 'Gul Delight' is really, well, delightful. :)
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Luit,
lovely flowers from the center of Dutch bulb breeders.
Thank you for giving us an smack of imminent spring ;)
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Thanks Luit
I like all the 'Matador' crosses and Lancaster
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As usual Luit lovely pics and thank you for taking the time to keep the series going.
Lots of lovely stuff but I have to say that my favourite was the Narcissus asturiensis x N. 'Candlepower'
Just a query here. I like the look of N. 'Lancaster' since my mum was born in Lancaster and I did a bit of research. According to Daffseek a plant in that name was registered by a Northern Ireland grower in 1977 and it doesn't look a bit like the plant in the Show. What do you think?
http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Lancaster&lastpage=1&which=hist1
I see what you mean, David. The daffseek description of "with a faint flush of orange at rim " doesn't seem to do this one justice. I like the pink muscari too.
Many thanks, Luit for bringing us these lovely show reports.
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Luit, thanks for the photo of Crocus kosaninii 'April View'. (see Reply #26 on: February 23, 2010, page 2)
I have heard of it but never seen a photo or plant.
Do you know more of its origin?
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Not only Narcissus or Tulipa were shown:
Group
Crocus kosaninii April View
Galanthus atkinsii Mocca's Strain
Galanthus atkinsii Mocca's Strain
Muscari Gul Delight
Tulipa humilis Lilliput
Narcissus asturiensis x N. Candlepower
A really lovely selection here Luit. Thanks so much for posting these wonderful images of Spring :)
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Just a query here. I like the look of N. 'Lancaster' since my mum was born in Lancaster and I did a bit of research. According to Daffseek a plant in that name was registered by a Northern Ireland grower in 1977 and it doesn't look a bit like the plant in the Show. What do you think?
http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Lancaster&lastpage=1&which=hist1
David, I have no reason to doubt as the (very capable!) Narcissus Committee did not complain either.
I found a picture of the show in April last year and on this picture is the cup not so much orange.
The light of the moment seems to be of influence inside?
Here are both of pics N. Lancaster made with the same camera and the flowers are from the same exhibitor:
Lancaster Februari 2010
Lancaster April 2009
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Luit, thanks for the photo of Crocus kosaninii 'April View'. (see Reply #26 on: February 23, 2010, page 2)
I have heard of it but never seen a photo or plant.
Do you know more of its origin?
Thomas, April View is registered in 2008 by Wim de Goede.
http://kavb.back2p.soft-orange.com/kavb/kavbSG.nsf/0/588b5c8a482f1877c2256a6c003455f5?OpenDocument&TableRow=1.1.0#1.1.
(http://kavb.back2p.soft-orange.com/kavb/kavbSG.nsf/0/588b5c8a482f1877c2256a6c003455f5?OpenDocument&TableRow=1.1.0#1.1.)
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Just a query here. I like the look of N. 'Lancaster' since my mum was born in Lancaster and I did a bit of research. According to Daffseek a plant in that name was registered by a Northern Ireland grower in 1977 and it doesn't look a bit like the plant in the Show. What do you think?
http://daffseek.org/query/query-detail.php?value1=Lancaster&lastpage=1&which=hist1
David, I have no reason to doubt as the (very capable!) Narcissus Committee did not complain either.
I found a picture of the show in April last year and on this picture is the cup not so much orange.
The light of the moment seems to be of influence inside?
Here are both of pics N. Lancaster made with the same camera and the flowers are from the same exhibitionist:
Lancaster Februari 2010
Lancaster April 2009
Many thanks Luit, I see what you mean the light does make a difference.
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Thanks again Luit. Of the tazettas Martinette stands out for me.
I wonder is this Muscari 'Gul Delight' the same as the M. armeniacum collected by Bob & Rannveig Wallis (90-50) and named 'Gul'?
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Thanks again Luit. Of the tazettas Martinette stands out for me.
I wonder is this Muscari 'Gul Delight' the same as the M. armeniacum collected by Bob & Rannveig Wallis (90-50) and named 'Gul'?
Ashley, I presume it might be so. Gul was the proposed name but as "gül" is only a name for "pink" in Turkish it is not allowed in nomenclature. Therefore Gul Delight.
Do you have it?
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Thanks Luit. Googling suggests that 'Gul Delight' is a registered/protected name.
Yes I have some plants ex the Wallis collection via JJA, due to flower shortly.
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Thomas, April View is registered in 2008 by Wim de Goede.
http://kavb.back2p.soft-orange.com/kavb/kavbSG.nsf/0/588b5c8a482f1877c2256a6c003455f5?OpenDocument&TableRow=1.1.0#1.1.
(http://kavb.back2p.soft-orange.com/kavb/kavbSG.nsf/0/588b5c8a482f1877c2256a6c003455f5?OpenDocument&TableRow=1.1.0#1.1.)
Thanks, Luit - surely something to look for next summer.
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Hello Asley,
You asked about Muscari Gul Delight, I am the one who registered it, you see I got from Rannveigh one pot of seedlings and selected out what I thought it was the best and put it in tissue culture and grew that on with scaling, so my form is uniform.
Muscari Gul from Bob and Rannveigh they grow it from seed so there is some variation in their forms, and because their form already got some awards Rannveigh like to use the the name Gul in it, so we deside the name M. Gul Delight.
I hope you satisfied with my explanation , otherwise please ask me
Wim de Goede
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Welcome Wim to the best forum! :D
Thanks for your comments for "Gul Delight". An unusual color.
I understood you have also registered C. kosanini "April View".
Can you post us a photo to show us the real characteristics?
Thank you in advance.
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Dear Armin,
I am happy to show you a photo from C kosaninnii April View:
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Wim, thank you very much.
It is a beautiful form of C. kosaninii. I like the yellow/brown base and the light stripes outside.
The description in KAVB says it has a yellow center inside the flower, right?
And the flower diameter is 70mm. Quite large for this species.
Is it a breeding cross with another species or a selection from your nursery?
There is not so much information available yet. And I'm (and others) are intrigued.
Would be pleased if you could give us some background info.
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For me this Crocus flowers in March
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Some pictures of week 9 & 10
Again some crosses of Narcissus Matador with N. jonquilla:
Narcissus Matador [?] Admiration open pollinated
Narcissus Sparkling Tarts (Matador x N. jonquilla)
Narcissus Mike Pollock (Matador x N. jonquilla)
Narcissus Explosion (Matador x N. jonquilla)
Narcissus Dan du Plessis(Matador x N. jonquilla)
Narcissus Falconet (Matador x N. jonquilla)
Narcissus Acapulco (Matador x N. jonquilla)
Narcissus Hoopoe (Matador x N. jonquilla)
Narcissus Motmot (Matador x N. jonquilla)
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show hall
Galanthus Brenda Troyle
Scilla Indra
Crocus korolkowii Kiss of Spring
Fritillaria aurea Robust Form
Colchicum luteum x kesselringii Jeanne
Narcissus Scilly White
Hyacinthus Fresco
Hyacinthus Fresco cl
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Luit,
all N. crosses are lovely. Which is your favourite?
Hyacinthus Fresco is particular nice and different.
It has less flowers but large ones.
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Hyacinthus group
Hyacinthus Baby Blue
Hyacinthus Prince of Holland
Hyacinthus Blue Trophy
Hyacinthus Midnight Mystique
Hyacinthus Blue Jacket
Hyacinthus Hollyhock
Hyacinthus Manhattan
Tulipa XFactor
Tulips
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Hyacinthus Jan Bos
Hyacinthus Discovery
Hyacinthus Woodstock
Hyacinthus group (2)
Hippeastrum Pink Rascal
Hippeastrum 4
Hippeastrum Red Rascal
Hippeastrum 2
Hippeastrum 5
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Luit,
all N. crosses are lovely. Which is your favourite?
Hyacinthus Fresco is particular nice and different.
It has less flowers but large ones.
All, particularly for their good perfume. :)
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Luit,
I can imagine the sweet narcotic smell from all that beautiful Narcissus and Hyacinths. ;D
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Yes, I agree with Armin, must be a knockout perfume with both together!
Narcissus Scilly White
Hyacinthus Fresco
Both my favourites and...
Scilla Indra
Crocus korolkowii Kiss of Spring
plus......
Hyacinthus Discovery and some of the magenta Hyacinthus are amazing...
Altogether a wonderful show, Luit, and the show hall looks incredible - thanks so much :D
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Lovely stuff Luit. Some odd old names in the first section, how do they think of them?
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I may be ungrateful or cynical or something but I really can't see the merit in naming so many seedlings from the same cross when all are just about identical. Maybe there are differences not visible in images but even so, to me it seems like a case of "if you've seen one, you've seen them all." ???
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Are any of the Hippeastrums scented?
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I agree that the Narcissus crosses all look rather similar from the pictures but like them anyway.
Yes hyacinth 'Fresco' is strikingly different, and I really like the deep colours of 'Baby Blue' & 'Midnight Mystique'.
Nice to see more gracile hippeastrums being developed.
Thanks Luit.
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Hello Asley,
You asked about Muscari Gul Delight, I am the one who registered it, you see I got from Rannveigh one pot of seedlings and selected out what I thought it was the best and put it in tissue culture and grew that on with scaling, so my form is uniform.
Muscari Gul from Bob and Rannveigh they grow it from seed so there is some variation in their forms, and because their form already got some awards Rannveigh like to use the the name Gul in it, so we deside the name M. Gul Delight.
I hope you satisfied with my explanation , otherwise please ask me
Wim de Goede
Thank you Wim; it's fascinating to learn more about this. So 'Gul Delight' is a registered name, but can PBR protection be obtained for a selection such as this rather than the product of a selective & defined breeding programme?
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Nice color of the dark blue hyacinths but I would not call dark blue "baby blue". To me that colour is lightblue rather than dark blue. Might differ in different countries. I bet the hyacinths did smell strong (nice) as well. These are actually the first spring plants for me in Portugal.
Luit great set of pictures again. Great thanks
Joakim
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Robin, in the hall the temps are kept at 15 C, so the smell in there is not so strong.. ;)
David, I believe many of those Narcissus are bred in English speaking countries, so I have no idea.
Maybe you have a look at Daffseek, where you can see who named them. I don't have the time for that at the moment.
Lesley, I made the same question here and I was told that all these varieties are from different breeders. But I agree that so many
look a likes don't make sense, though the grower told me that on the field there are different heights and different times of flowering.
BTW, they were shown by our famous Collector.
Maggi, I was too busy making pictures, so did not put my nose in. ;D But I don't think they smell strong.
The Hyacinthus Fresco was for me very outstanding too, but the bulb traders don't see it as something good.
Hyacinths are mostly grown to force them in winter for cutting or for selling on pots.
Us plant lovers don't count for them, I'm afraid. They think in "millions" ;D ;D :-X
Nice color of the dark blue hyacinths but I would not call dark blue "baby blue". To me that colour is lightblue rather than dark blue.
Joakim
Joakim, I agree, but the Baby part is because this variety is very short. But I was thinking the same as you about Baby Blue.
Thank you all for your comments
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Some more pictures of the show.
Last week I only made a few pictures:
Hall 1
Crocus etc.
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This week's Monday, when entering the hall there was a real color spectacle
+ the scent of hyacinths in very good quality:
Hyacinths
Tulips
Hall 2
Fun with Hyacinths - Crossing results
Smaller bulbs 1
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Smaller bulbs 2
Scilla mischtschenkoana 1
Scilla mischtschenkoana 2
Scilla mischtschenkoana Zwanenburg 1
Scilla mischtschenkoana Zwanenburg 2
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Smaller bulbs 3
Iris reticulata Ida
Crocus chrysanthus E.P. Bowles
Cyclamen persicum N. Israel Form
Smaller bulbs 4
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and finally a few for the tulip lovers ;)
Tulipa Arabian Mystery
Tulipa Fostery King
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Excellent report as usual Luit, Many thanks, it gives us something to aspire to!
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Thanks for showing so many interesting bulbs Luit at the Lisse Flowershow - the Scilla are lovely and Iris reticulata Ida could be just what I'm looking for :D
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All lovely Luit, thank you so much for posting. I'm particularly drawn to the iris but wouldn't say no to a bouquet of tulips!
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They are, as always Luit, quite magnificent. I doubt if we've ever seen such a colourful display. So many varieties and such gorgeous colour of all kinds.
I Haven't especially noticed before but it is evident in this series, how attractively the whole hall is set up with oval benches which I assume are moveable? and the long, curved, stepped bench as well. So much more interesting than long, straight tables. The possibilities for attractive arrangements are huge.
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It must smell wonderful in that room.
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Luit,
Fabulous as ever!
I know they aren't to everyone's tastes, but the Parrot Tulip "Arabian Mystery" looks very exciting!
cheers
fermi
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Thanks all for the kind replies. I’m glad you still like my reports :D :D
Lesley, the interior of the hall is indeed very practical because the benches are movable.
The bad thing for photographers in this hall is that the windows are on the south side. The benches placed near the windows are extremely difficult due to back lighting. When the sun shines the blinds close automatically because the temps raise to much. Many flowers stay all week in this hall, because it’s a bulb trade center and traders have the possibility to come on other times to see what is new etc.
Anne, the hall is kept at 16 C., so there is not so much scent as you might expect.
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Is the show open to all people or only growers?
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Well considering the photographic difficulties Luit, you do a superb job. We would never guess from your images that the lighting was a problem for picture takers. :D
I meant to say before, that your Saponaria seed, and Luc's, is on its way. Shouldn't be long.
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Is the show open to all people or only growers?
Mark, as it is a Trade Center, it is open to growers and traders, but very interested people will probably not shown out.
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Well considering the photographic difficulties Luit, you do a superb job. We would never guess from your images that the lighting was a problem for picture takers. :D
Thanks for the compliment Lesley!
I meant to say before, that your Saponaria seed, and Luc's, is on its way. Shouldn't be long.
That's really very good news! :D
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Very interesting this Monday were some sports of Irises
Iris - Sport of I. Katherine Hodgkin
Iris - Sport of I. Sheila Ann Germaney
and the other entries:
Iris White Caucasus
Narcissus Braga
Narcissus dubius
Iris ret. Clairette
Iris ret. Gordon
Iris ret. Spring Time
Arum creticum
Tulipa kaufm. Pink Dwarf
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Ypsilandra thibetica
Corydalis G.P. Baker
Veltheimia bracteata
And finally the Committee Special Bulbs at work.
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Luit, the timing could't be better, I am trying to find other Reticulata iris to go with those i planted last year and the 'sports of' you show in your super photos are just the sort of thing to extend a flowing river of them down my rockery! They have been magnets to the first bees and butterflies and the Katherine Hodgkin have even survived two lots of snow as they came out.
Thanks for the inspiration from Lisse and I just wondered why...
... finally the Committee Special Bulbs at work.
there are no women present? :o
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Luit , such beautyful sports of Iris 'Katherine Hodgkin' and 'Sheila Ann Germaney' , I prefer these new colours to the original hybrids . Is I. 'White Caucasus ' a white form of I. reticulata or a hybrid ?
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Great to see those sports Luit, hopefully we can all get our hands on them before too long ;D
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Sport of Sheila Ann Germany is very good looking. Is it possible an open pollinated seed grow in a group of Sheila Ann?
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... finally the Committee Special Bulbs at work.
there are no women present? :o
Oops, never thought about that.. ??? ??? ??? JOKE ;D
Robin, there is a female member too, but living rather far away.
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Luit , such beautyful sports of Iris 'Katherine Hodgkin' and 'Sheila Ann Germaney' , I prefer these new colours to the original hybrids . Is I. 'White Caucasus ' a white form of I. reticulata or a hybrid ?
Otto, on this page you find the story about White Caucasus (and many more Irises)
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5164.30 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5164.30)
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Those sports are definitely GOOD sports :D but then, in my book all irises are good irises. I wonder how often such sports occur on reticulata irises? We have seen several on various vars here, from time to time. Never any in my garden at least. Perhaps one needs to be growing the 1,000s or 1,000,000s for them to occur spontaneously.
That committee looks extremely like the groups of judges round any AGS or SRGC show bench. ;D
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That committee looks extremely like the groups of judges round any AGS or SRGC show bench. ;D
;D ;D
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Some pictures of my choice in the last two weeks.
Muscari heldreichii
Muscari azureum var. amphibolis
Hyacinthella pallens
Scilla siberica var taurica
Tulipa Mickey Crispy
Some weeks ago I showed a crate with Hyacinths, titled "Fun with Hyacinths"
This week the breeder was showing some examples again.
The first double one is a very old cultivar, which is much used in his breeding programm.
Hyacinthus 1
Hyacinthus 2
Hyacinthus 3
Hyacinthus 4
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Since some years a breeder is developing Fritillaria which can be used in the
cutflower industry. One of the major aims is getting flowers which don't have
the unpleasant scent, which is known in the F. imperialis group.
Here are some named new cultivars (not yet registered) where F. raddeana and
F. inodorum are used.
Fritillaria
Fritillaria Grieg
Fritillaria Chopin
Fritillaria Bach
Fritillaria Vivaldi
and a few more pictures of other entries.
Narcissus
Narcissus Stocken
Narcissus Stocken 2
Fritillaria reuteri 1
Fritillaria reuteri 2
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Thanks for more delights from Lisse - great choice Luit :)
My favourite choice is with the blues:
Muscari heldreichii
Muscari azureum var. amphibolis
Hyacinthella pallens
Scilla siberica var taurica
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The blues are all beautiful. Pleased to see someone has a nice taste in music. :D
What is Fritiillaria inodorum? Obviously scentless, but where does it originate? An imperialis form with no smell?
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Going back briefly to the sports of II. KH and SAG, a sport is a spontaneous growth of different shape, colour or whatever, on the original plant. Not a seedling. In the case of reticulate irises, how could a sport happen, except, perhaps as one of the numerous rice grain babies which form around the base of these plants, in particular, KH, SAG, histriodes 'Major' and winogradowii. Can you find out some information about this please Luit, from one of the luminaries at the weekly Show?
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The blues are all beautiful. Pleased to see someone has a nice taste in music. :D
What is Fritiillaria inodorum? Obviously scentless, but where does it originate? An imperialis form with no smell?
Sorry for that Lesley. I was just typing in some sort of hurry and not thinking :-[. I should have typed F. imperialis Inodorum.
A scentless cultivar.
Going back briefly to the sports of II. KH and SAG, a sport is a spontaneous growth of different shape, colour or whatever, on the original plant. Not a seedling. In the case of reticulate irises, how could a sport happen, except, perhaps as one of the numerous rice grain babies which form around the base of these plants, in particular, KH, SAG, histriodes 'Major' and winogradowii. Can you find out some information about this please Luit, from one of the luminaries at the weekly Show?
Could you please explain what you mean with " II. KH and SAG" Lesley?
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Sorry Luit, I was just being lazy. I meant Irises 'Katharine Hodgkin' and 'Sheila Ann Germaney', referring to the pictures you showed in a recent post, of sports of these two hybrids. (Reply #79)
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Luit,
wonderful and impressive photos!!! I am especilly impressed with fritillaria imperialis new cultivars. Hope that in future the breeder will be able also to create varieties with upfacing blooms.
Lesley,
I would also like to add that sports are not only spontaneous growths of different shape, colour or forms; they also can be obtained under the unfluence of different artificial factos as growth stimulators, chemicals, x-rays, ets. Many new sports are obtained this way, especially those with odd-ball shapes.
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Ah yes, Zhirair, I had forgotten about that but then I don't really approve of meddling with plants in this way. Perhaps a silly predjudice but.....
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Hope that in future the breeder will be able also to create varieties with upfacing blooms.
But, Zhirair, would that not be a Tulipa ? ;D ::)
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Sorry Luit, I was just being lazy. I meant Irises 'Katharine Hodgkin' and 'Sheila Ann Germaney', referring to the pictures you showed in a recent post, of sports of these two hybrids. (Reply #79)
Lesley, I think there is a difference in sports on plants and bulbs.
We call it a sport or mutations in bulbs and they arise spontaneous.
You can grow a tulip cultivar en masse for many years and then suddenly
you may find a different color in a field which is no seedling.
Spontaneous seedling are not possible because the flowers are cut off to let the bulbs grow bigger.
And bulbs are only cultivated for one season every year.
Here I show you as an example Tulipa Prinses Irene which is a sport of the ancient Tulipa Couleur Cardinal from 1845 and still in culture!
At the moment there are 7 sports of T. Couleur Cardinal registered.
T. Prinses Irene was registered in 1949 and now there are 11 sports of this tulip registered.
When you look at plants or shrubs you may suddenly find for instance on Helianthemum one
shoot with variegated leaves or double flowers or even another flower color. When you propagate this shoot you have a new cultivar.
Just read Zhirair ‘s comment but I already had written my comment so leave it here
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So you are saying Luit that with the little irises, the sport may be a side growth rather than from the rice grain growths. It would just about have to be one part of a split bulb as Iris reticulata vars don't produce side bulbs as, for instance, a daffodil does. They just break into two or three or more (danfordiae). I mean that the new, "side" bulbs are always separate, right to the base. Or so it seems to me.
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In the case of reticulate irises, how could a sport happen, except, perhaps as one of the numerous rice grain babies which form around the base of these plants
I mean that the new, "side" bulbs are always separate, right to the base
Any meristem tissue can mutate, whether it's the tissue that gives rise to rice grains or that which produces a daughter bulb.
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Hope that in future the breeder will be able also to create varieties with upfacing blooms.
But, Zhirair, would that not be a Tulipa ? ;D ::)
Very good said Maggi !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) They will really resemble tulips.
Anyway, I think that in future it might be possible. Lately the breeders introduced up-facing trumpet lily cultivars and they really look quite good and attractive.
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So that means (I'm getting there slowly) that only tissue-cultured material mutates or "sports," in the case of irises of the reticulata group?
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The world of colors is so wonderful :o, thank you for the delicious pics Luit. Why I only look for white flowers >:(???
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Lesley,
the meristem is the undifferentiated cell mass that makes-up a growing point in a plant. These cells are generally used for tissue culture, which was previously was called meritem culture.
In an Iris, for example, the area on the bulb where the 'seed' bulblets form is one meristem tissue area. As this tissue is essentially undifferentiated, mutations may occur during the initial cell division as it forms a bulblet. The same thing may happen, and very often does, with tissue culture, as we are using the same cells, but the increase is 100,000 fold, as one is attempting to create plants en masse. Typically, also, each meristem generation is taken from the previous generation, rather than from the mother plant, which means that mutations are perpetuated and actually fostered by this method. Smaller mutations may thus continue to change in the next generation.
Other than in garden plants, orchids are renowned for their meristem mutations, which have given us many wonderful houseplants!
Does this help?
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Yes thank you Jamie, it really does. But I think genetics and related subjects will probably remain a closed book to me. ;D
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For yesterday's show was asked for special Muscari entries.
Most impressive (amongst all others) was a new variety with really gleaming flowers
Muscari [gleaming]
Muscari gr.
Muscari cl.
Muscari arr.
Muscari Artist
Muscari Saffier
Muscari Fantasy Creation
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A breeder showed some of his newer cultivars again
Tulipa black 1
Tulipa black 2
and a nice formed white one
Tulipa wit
some more Muscari and some other plants
Muscari Chimcan
Muscari Maxabel
Trillium simile
Phlox subulata Kelly's Eye
Phlox bifida Ralph Haywood
Iris Jiansada
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Bellevalia romana Green Pearl
Bellevalia romana Green Pearl cl
Narcissus Sophie Girl
Narcissus Lancaster
Tulipa Moulin Rouge
Tulipa Hemisphere
I finish this series with a nice pot tulips, taken when just brought in
and a picture made one hour later:
Tulipa vvedenskyi 1
Tulipa vvedenskyi 1a
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Well! 8) You were not joking about the "gleaming".... they look like shiny Lapis Lazuli beads on the Muscari! The Bellevalia 'Green Pearl ' is very nice too.... so many lovely things to see and to enjoy the perfect presentation. It is hard to beat the impact of a large bowl of open red tulips, is it not? So pretty.
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What a fantastic display! The muscari are incredible displayed like that. Thank you so much for the pictures Luit.
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Lovely things Luit and the person who arranges them all is a real artist. The Muscaris are works of art I think.
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Wow, the Muscari arrangements are fabulous Luit - I like the idea of using Hosta leaves to envelop them - altogether glorious shapes and colours with the tulips too and I love Bellevalia romana Green Pearl
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Wonderful all :o
Luit, is it possible that 'Green Pearl' is not B. romana but something else (a muscari)?
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I had 'Green Pearl' from Blom's nursery last year. I think it was labelled Bellevalia pycnantha 'Green Pearl'. Not all were green, some were ordinary pycnantha.
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Great photos Luit. I love muscari, so was most interested to see what was there. I grow M. 'Saffier' and its interesting to see that the flowers stay green. Last year I spent a lot of time trying to get them to mature to blue, which of course didn't happen. Now I know what to expect from them!
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I am glad you all liked the Muscari pictures. It was a real impressive show.
When I am at the show, I just make pictures as good as possible and just look what I find of interest and not if the names are correct.
The Bellevalia Green Pearl is officially registered as a sport of B. pycnantha. Hence the name "romana" was wrong.
Will make a note for tomorrow, when the Committee meets again.
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Thanks Roma and Luit.
I didn't think of that, but Luit's close-up shows the distinctive flower shape of B. pycnantha very clearly. An interesting sport.
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I had 'Green Pearl' from Blom's nursery last year. I think it was labelled Bellevalia pycnantha 'Green Pearl'.
There's another thing I'll need to suggest to Marcus to try to import! ;D
cheers
fermi
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The Muscari are fabulous. The Bellevalia looks like pycnantha with the broad leaves and closely spaced flowers. Romana has long narrow leaves and widely spaced outward facing flowers with blue/purple anthers. Sadly, those in the picture have the signs of virus - twisted streaky leaves.
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The Muscari are fabulous. The Bellevalia looks like pycnantha with the broad leaves and closely spaced flowers. Romana has long narrow leaves and widely spaced outward facing flowers with blue/purple anthers. Sadly, those in the picture have the signs of virus - twisted streaky leaves.
We'll just have to rely on seed then. :-\
cheers
fermi
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Are we still talking about the Bellevalia 'Green Pearl' here? I accept that my eyesight may no longer be 20/20 but I really can't see streaky leaves and they don't look especially twisted to me, no more than any bulb produces as it comes through compost. Is it possible that we are getting a little OVER-virus conscience and perhaps seeing it where there is none? But feel free Aaron, to point out where I'm missing something. ???
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Are we still talking about the Bellevalia 'Green Pearl' here? I accept that my eyesight may no longer be 20/20 but I really can't see streaky leaves and they don't look especially twisted to me, no more than any bulb produces as it comes through compost. Is it possible that we are getting a little OVER-virus conscience and perhaps seeing it where there is none? But feel free Aaron, to point out where I'm missing something. ???
Lesley, as an "old fashioned gardener" ??? I agree with you. I do see some virus-like streaks on some leaves, but many plants show these in spring especially after a long cold period like we had here this spring. It's probably just a little stress and then plants often show this.
The suggestion of raising this plant from seed is not relevant I'm afraid , (Sorry for this Fermi! :-X ), as it is a sport of a dark blue flower and not likely to give these greenish flowers from seed again.
I get often a bit irritated, about the OVER-virus conscience in this Forum. Especially when an enthusiast grower shows his/her new, first flowering Crocus or Iris and the only comment is: This plant is virused.
There are better ways to try to explain about and not taking the joy of some plant right away.
In parks there are growing thousands of Crocus or Narcissus having some sort of virus, but they grow and flower in such places many years without doing any harm. And normal people do like them as they are and don't bother about some streaky leaves.
Please, don't understand me wrong. I am against selling deliberately virus-ed plants. And I know many growers here who are inspecting day after day their bulbfields to avoid that customers get ill plants.
Having said this I will go on with my next reply!
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Because until now I have mostly shown pictures of bulbous plants,
I decided this Monday to make some pictures of perennials, i.e. Hosta.
Hosta were specially invited and there were many good entries with
enormous pots.
Here some different leafs:
Hosta Gypsy Rose
Hosta Revolution
Hosta Risky Business
Hosta Frances Williams
Hosta Timeless Beauty
Hosta Enterprise
Hosta Blue Ivory
Hosta Hanky Panky
Hosta American Sweetheart
And for the tulips fans I show a tulip too, because I found it rather special:
Tulipa [Sport of Attila Graffiti]
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Wow, Luit!
That tulip has the look of a peony in bud!
Great stuff!
cheers
fermi
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Luit, well said! I agree wholeheartedly.
John B
Lesley, as an "old fashioned gardener" ??? I agree with you. I do see some virus-like streaks on some leaves, but many plants show these in spring especially after a long cold period like we had here this spring. It's probably just a little stress and then plants often show this.
The suggestion of raising this plant from seed is not relevant I'm afraid , (Sorry for this Fermi! :-X ), as it is a sport of a dark blue flower and not likely to give these greenish flowers from seed again.
I get often a bit irritated, about the OVER-virus conscience in this Forum. Especially when an enthusiast grower shows his/her new, first flowering Crocus or Iris and the only comment is: This plant is virused.
There are better ways to try to explain about and not taking the joy of some plant right away.
In parks there are growing thousands of Crocus or Narcissus having some sort of virus, but they grow and flower in such places many years without doing any harm. And normal people do like them as they are and don't bother about some streaky leaves.
Please, don't understand me wrong. I am against selling deliberately virus-ed plants. And I know many growers here who are inspecting day after day their bulbfields to avoid that customers get ill plants.
Having said this I will go on with my next reply!
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Fine pics of hosta leaves, thank you Luit. Please show us much more! :D
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Yes, please do Luit, Hosta Blue Ivory is really lovely and the variations are altogether absorbing to look at - I do like the textures and presentation of the Hosta leaves too, especially the blues.
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Love that Hosta 'Blue Ivory' and 'Risky Business. Must add them to my list of wants....
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Some more pictures of Hosta from last week
Hosta Climax
Hosta Earth Angel
Hosta Tom Schmid
Hosta Sea Thunder
Hosta Ann Kulpa
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and some pics of this week.
Allium cowanii
Babiana tubulosa
Babiana pulchra
Babiana rubrocyanea
When tulip time is almost over, growers sometimes show flowers which
give some reasons for discussion.
Personally I don't know if anybody is waiting for this. ???
Tulipa La Bizarre
Tulipa Evergreen
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When tulip time is almost over, growers sometimes show flowers which
give some reasons for discussion.
Personally I don't know if anybody is waiting for this. ???
Tulipa La Bizarre
Tulipa Evergreen
Well, :-\ at least they are appropriately named! ;D
cheers
fermi
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When tulip time is almost over, growers sometimes show flowers which
give some reasons for discussion.
Personally I don't know if anybody is waiting for this. ???
Tulipa La Bizarre
Tulipa Evergreen
Luit,
Thanks for showing the photos of these curious tulips. Personally I am not a lover of odd-ball tulips, but some, which don't lack taste, appeal to me. The example, is tulipa viridiflora 'Omnyacc'.
Relating green tulips, I grow some interesting totally or almost totally green tulips, icluding 'Evergreen' as well. In the garden they can be lost among others if appropriate light background is not provided, but they are perfect indoors in flowers arrangments, besides, last very long. I don't grow 'La Bizarre' so far and was not familliar with this tulip, but would like to grow it very much. It has very interesting anemona-shaped flower, almost green version of tulipa 'Omnyacc'. Though I grow old breeder tulip 'La Bizarre', which is now not in the register, because was lost in Holland.
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Though I grow old breeder tulip 'La Bizarre', which is now not in the register, because was lost in Holland.
No one does remember this one here, though in the late tulips was a group called "Bizarre", amongst "Rosen" and "Breeder".
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Some pictures of plants shown this week:
Narcissus bulbocodium
I counted six stems per bulb!
Narcissus plenus
syn. :Narcissus Albus Plenus Odoratus
Hyacinthoides vicentina
Scilla litardierei
Hyacinthoides algeriense
Incarvillea Bees' Pink
Iris [CH] Broadleigh Angela
Rhodohypoxis
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Allium karataviense ssp. henrikiii Red Globe
Allium darwasicum
Lilium Garden Affaire
Lilium Tessa
a very early Paeonia hybrid:
Paeonia Linda Roos
and the last picture is of some very late double tulips
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This week I noted the following plants at the Show:
Paeonia Command Performance
Thalictrum kiusianum
Athyrium Ghostmaster
Fallopia japonica var. compacta Sel
Allium protensum
A Camassia performing nice in early spring with variegated leaves:
Camassia leichtlinii Alba 'Sacajewa' 1
Camassia leichtlinii Alba 'Sacajewa' 2
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Some Dutch Irises:
Iris holl. Montana 1
Iris holl. Montana cl
Iris holl
And a special one with nice marked falls
Iris holl. 1
Iris holl. cl
And finally three pictures of one of the last tulips this season:
Tulipa sprengeri
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T sprengeri is such a lovely tulip. Thank you for continuing to bring us these, Luit.
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Some interesting plant there Luit. I really like the Scilla and Hyacinthoides very much. In patches of solid blue like that they are very appealing. :D
I don't know Fallopia at all. It looks as if it is related to Polygonum/Persicaria/Tovaria? like the 'Painter's Palette' which I lost some time ago - too dry. Also looks like a low, shrubby version of the variegated Aktinidia kolomikta. Lost that too, to neighbour's damned cats. I had one good big plant ready to plant out and half a dozen seedlings from which I hoped to get both sexes. The cats unpotted the lot and apparently ate them! >:( ??? >:(
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I don't know Fallopia at all.
I'm not sure you want to - Fallopia japonica is Japanese knotweed.
I don't think it will be on your permitted list Lesley ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks for explaining Diane. I was just thinking about how I could translate my thoughts on 'paper'.
You've done it much faster and easier and hit the nail.! :D
I would never plant it in my place!
BTW the man who showed it has it always in a pot!!!
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I don't know Fallopia at all.
I'm not sure you want to - Fallopia japonica is Japanese knotweed.
I don't think it will be on your permitted list Lesley ;D ;D ;D
Well yes, and no.
F. aubertii and F. convolvulus are permitted as seeds (plants, "requires assessment.") but F. japonica and F. sachalinensis are specifically prohibited, both as seed and as plants. But I can look and admire can't I? without actually wanting. ;D
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Three weeks ago on the day before I left for a short holiday I made some
pictures at the Show.
There was a great variety of Allium this day, as they were specially asked
for to send in by the growers.
Allium unifolium
Allium unifolium Selection
Allium hyalinum
Allium oreophilum Kuramin's Dwarf
Allium oreophilum Agalik's Giant
Allium convallarioides Pink
Allium cernuum White Dwarf
Allium pallasii
Allium Seedling
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Allium
Allium stellatum
Allium schoenophrasum Mix
Allium rotundum ssp. jajlae
Allium ramosum
Allium falcifolium
Allium crenulatum
Allium crenulatum x falcifolium
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Allium carolinianum
Allium amplectens Sel. wit
Allium dirixum
Allium chloranthum
Allium moly
Allium moly Jeannine
Allium litvinovii
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There were other entries to, just a few pics:
Iris hollandica
Pasithea caerulea
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Luit,
wonderful ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Luit,
Just caught up with these 2010 postings..... fantastic pics as always. Some very, very interesting stuff you show us, as usual. Thanks heaps. 8)
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Pasithea? Never heard of this one, can anyone say more about it please?
Good stuff as usual Luit, many thanks.
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David,
It's another of those small flowered Iridaceous types..... apparently lovely true blue flowers, or close to it. I have seedlings, but not yet to flowering size.
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Have a look.
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Pasithea
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Thanks Paul and Arnold.
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Thanks Arnold, I'd always thought it was Iridaceous, not Anthericaceae. The leaves certainly look like an irid. You learn something knew every day. Thanks again. 8)
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I especially like the vase of Allium schoenoprasum. I wish my herb garden chives showed such variation when they flower.
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I especially like the vase of Allium schoenoprasum. I wish my herb garden chives showed such variation when they flower.
Just stumbled upon this thread, glad I took a look with so many fine Alliums being shown. I agree Lesley, that is one beautiful bouquet of Allium schoenoprasum colors. I was also pleased to see many choicer alliums, most all correctly named too; like pallasii, chloranthum, litvinovii, a fine form of hyalinum, convallarioides in a light pink form (very nice). I'd like to know more about the Allium cernuum white dwarf, looks like it could be a hybrid with denser flowers than normal and such a short crooked neck... I get such things in my Allium melting pot here.
Then there are a couple problem ones; there is no name Allium dirixum, most likely a corruption of A. "permixtum", which is a synonym of Allium subhirsutum. The Allium stellatum isn't... can't be really sure what it is unless bulbs and foliage are seen too, but the flowers are much too upright to be that species, and it doesn't look much like any of the various A. stellatum I grow, many of mine from collected sources. And, I have my doubts about A. carolinianum too, once again I'd need to see the trademark thick, glaucous, falcate leaves to be sure, but it doesn't look right to me.
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and some pics of this week.
Allium cowanii
Please note, that there is no Allium "cowanii", it is an ancient synonym from the 1800s for a form of A. neapolitanum, but the name lives in perpetuity.
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Here the pictures which I made last week at the Show.
Mostly bulbous plants and a few perennials:
Homeria ochroleuca
Homeria aurantiaca
Cyrtanthus mackenii 1
Cyrtanthus mackenii 2
Cyrtanthus mackenii 3
Muilla Forelock
Triteleia hyacinthina
Hymenocallis Sulphur Queen
Knautia macedonica Thunder and Lightning
Hermannia stricta
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What a fine selection of interesting species - came along Muilla (anagram of Allium) the first time!
Thank you, Luit!
Gerd
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Wow, Luit. I love that variegated Knautia. Great combination. 8)
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What a fine selection of interesting species - came along Muilla (anagram of Allium) the first time!
Thank you, Luit!
Gerd
Gerd, I'm afraid you still have to wait to see a Muilla, because that thing shown above is no where close to a Muilla.
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Not familiar with how these shows operate, I need to ask a question. Is there any sort of vetting of plant names and identities before things are shown?
Harking back to late 2009 when I was involved in a SRGC thread, where forumists complained about the fact misnamed seed gets sent into the seed exchanges, there was sentiment along the lines of: I've paid my yearly membership, by golly I should be able to get my seed without any misidentifications. My take on this was to explain why it is sometimes, oftentimes, difficult to verify the names of plants unless one has a remarkable library of floras and the most up-to-date scientific taxonomic papers, as well as provide other reasons why misnamed seed makes it into the seedexes. Forumists grew weary of my rationalization about why & how seed donations are sometimes wrong, and asked for the thread to end ::)
Fortunately, Google goes a long way these days to help verify one's plant IDs, but it is not foolproof, as there's tons of misinformation there too..
This thread seems a good illustration on how things get sent into seed exchanges misidentified and the misinformation perpetuated, when misnomers are shown in flower shows, possibly not even to be corrected for the record. I've already indicated some misidentifications above, and now there's a photo labeled with the wrong genus.
There is no such thing as Muilla Forelock ::). The Western North American genus Muilla (indeed an anagram of Allium) has but 3 species, some of which have gone back and forth between Bloomeria, another small Western North American genus also with 3 species (which I have shown on this forum: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5080.msg157404#msg157404), both members of the Themidaceae. Muilla are small little plants with whitish flowers, some information and image links:
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/Muilla
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=121293
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?query_src=photos_index&where-taxon=Muilla+transmontana
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?query_src=photos_index&where-taxon=Muilla+coronata
http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?query_src=photos_index&where-taxon=Muilla+maritima
So what is this Forelock thing? Googling based on what this thing looks like (sure looks like an Allium to me), I searched Allium Forelock, and sure enough, it is an Allium, apparently a Dutch named variety without attribution to a species, found in many UK nurseries and at least one nursery here in the USA. I found one nursery listing (not in English) attributing the species as A. vineale, but I doubt that very much as there does not appear to be any bulbils in the flower head. The flower head looks much like A. amethystinum. Anyone know more about the origins and parentage behind "Forelock"?
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Luit, a lovely selection as always. I especially like the cream and light orange Cyrtanthus forms. :) And the little Hermannia is very pretty and airy.
I had never heard of Muilla and don't doubt Mark's notes for a moment. The illustrated plant certainly looks very like an Allium. I guess even those whom we would expect to be fully up to speed with naming can also make mistakes. I'm surprised though Mark, that a thread discussing naming on the seedlists was stopped. Usually it's a subject we can all have a right good moan about. :D
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I had never heard of Muilla and don't doubt Mark's notes for a moment.
I have, and I've got a pot. Every year I think I've lost it, but it struggles back to life. It's never flowered yet, and I live in hope, but from Mark's description I'm not sure I should bother ::)
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I had never heard of Muilla and don't doubt Mark's notes for a moment.
I have, and I've got a pot. Every year I think I've lost it, but it struggles back to life. It's never flowered yet, and I live in hope, but from Mark's description I'm not sure I should bother ::)
Diane, click on any of the photo links I gave (1 link for each of the 3 Muilla species), they are cute little "minor bulbs". The species of closely related Bloomeria are more garden worthy in my opinion, showier, and with bright color flowers.
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I thought they were very pretty. Perhaps not earth shakers, but worth the effort if they come your way.
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What a fine selection of interesting species - came along Muilla (anagram of Allium) the first time!
Thank you, Luit!
Gerd
Gerd, although I normally take my job as reporter at this show rather serious, this time I allowed myself a little joke.
Just I'm glad that you found out right away that I used an anagram for this Allium, but you know me longer than just one day ;)
I saw so many leeks last week, it must have been the smell :-\
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Luit, a lovely selection as always. I especially like the cream and light orange Cyrtanthus forms. :) And the little Hermannia is very pretty and airy.
I had never heard of Muilla and don't doubt Mark's notes for a moment. The illustrated plant certainly looks very like an Allium. I guess even those whom we would expect to be fully up to speed with naming can also make mistakes. I'm surprised though Mark, that a thread discussing naming on the seedlists was stopped. Usually it's a subject we can all have a right good moan about. :D
Lesley, like you I didn’t realize that a genus Muilla really exists, but thought it a good idea to test if people still look as attentive at my pictures as I do the naming and resizing of them, which is rather a hell of a job when there are many other jobs to do outside in the garden ::) ::)
The flowers were indeed sent by the grower as Allium Forelock!!!
BTW, I did not want to upset anybody :-X
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Being a member of this Forum since 7 years, many forumists will know by now that I always have been one of the proponents of writing plant names properly and always willing to correct a wrong name, when this occasionally happens.
I do have no problems with fair comments!
BUT……. :o :o :o
This thread seems a good illustration on how things get sent into seed exchanges misidentified and the misinformation perpetuated, when misnomers are shown in flower shows, possibly not even to be corrected for the record.
The above quoted lines are for me in such an extent insulting, that I am considering stopping this thread immediately!
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Luit, please do not take those comments personally.
It is of course deeply distressing for those who work so hard for the Forum to hear such criticisms made but you are not culpable of any wrong doing.
Referring back to other comments:
It was the hurt caused by criticism of the Seed Exchanges that resulted requests for comments to the thread on mis-naming from late last year to be drawn to a close.
We are all anxious that plants are properly named - in so far as that is possible- (and, let's face it, in some cases that is extremely difficult) but it is also the case that innocent folks working hard to assist in the seed exchanges can be made to feel bad by the complaints, which is quite unfair. While that is surely not the intention of the criticsm, it is a consequence which I regret. Sadly those to whom such criticism is rightfully directed may carry on regardless while others feel blamed.
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Dear Luit,
We love your reports, we adore your images, we appreciate the effort involved, we thank you immensely. Mark wasn't criticising you or your reports in any way, he was simply addressing an ongoing nomenclature issue from his viewpoint - and, from the amount of images he has posted to forums around the world, Mark understands and appreciates the effort and time that you have spent on our behalves.
Please keep up the excellent work.
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I just made a note to Stephen in another thread which is equally applicable here and in rather a lot of other threads, too........http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5723.msg159572#msg159572
....expressing thanks to those who take the time and trouble to contribute to the forum!
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Dear Luit,
We love your reports, we adore your images, we appreciate the effort involved, we thank you immensely. Mark wasn't criticising you or your reports in any way, he was simply addressing an ongoing nomenclature issue from his viewpoint - and, from the amount of images he has posted to forums around the world, Mark understands and appreciates the effort and time that you have spent on our behalves.
Please keep up the excellent work.
Luit, I peruse these plant show threads with great interest and admiration, and I do appreciate all forumists involved, from the plant show organizers and the amazingly skilled growers, and in particular, for those such as yourself giving up your valuable time to share so many photos for us forumists to view and enjoy. Cliff summarized well, that I was taking the opportunity to address issues of nomenclature, how easy it is for the effects of misnamed plants to be amplified as a result of a plant show or other educational public venue. Some plant misidentifications seem uncorrectable; they are so entrenched in horticulture that they can persist and thrive for decades or longer in spite of attempts at setting the record straight (Allium "cowanii" comes to mind, an invalid synonym of A. neapolitanum surviving well over a century). Just addressed one this morning on the Allium thread, where Allium splendens "var. kurilense" is discussed, that name an invalid non-existent one, yet it thrives in the seed exchanges & specialists nurseries. http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=4757.300
So Luit, please continue your posting of plant show reports, they are sincerely appreciated. Please know that any comments made about nomenclature are offered in the interest of clarifying any nomenclatural inaccuracies for the benefit of the grower and any other forumists who might subsequently want to grow said plants; that such discussions are in no way a reflection of the forumist who is diligently and most generously working to post the show results.
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Luit - For me - and I am sure I speak for other forumists as well - the Lisse Show is the most consistently uplifting and informative thread on the Forum along with the Ian's Bulb Log. Everything at Lisse is so beautifully displayed and the venue one of the best I have seen - so bright and cheery even on the worst winter days, one would think a cloud never passed through Dutch skies. Continue on my friend we appreciate your hard work and dedication to produce this remarkable tonic for our seasonal blues.
johnw
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Luit, your Weekly Lisse Flowershow is a wonderful Thread always full of delights and surprises in that curvaceous setting! It is a window into the world of superbly grown specimens and I look forward to each one for your photography and comment - your guided tours are full of interest, detail and humour not to be missed so please continue to report on this great event. :)
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I absolutely agree with John, Robin and the others who love this thread and would be very sad to see it close. Every time I look at it I think of you Luit, taking so much time with the pictures themselves at the shows then all the processing to get them ready for the Forum and for our pleasure. I've seen many plants here that are new to me and I wouldn't see in any other circumstances.
As to criticisms, don't let them bother you. I've been on the receiving end too but in general, they're meant in the spirit of learning and accuracy and in any case, I'd defend to the end, anyone who is happy to make a wee joke. What is the world coming to if we can't laugh a little bit?
And if you are seeing too many leeks, try them with potatoes and chicken stock, salt and plenty pepper, to make a very good soup! :D
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Dear friends
what can I say, I am really overwhelmed by your reactions, either here or by mail or PM.
As I said before, I have no problems with criticism, but it was this time more the way Mark was taking opportunities to address issues of nomenclature, that I got the feeling he is pointing his finger right on me in his comments and therefore I used the word ‘aggressive’.
I read his words as if he was giving ME an order to tell the KAVB Committees right away that they are not doing there work properly.
I mentioned several times what kind of shows these are at Lisse and how it works. I am not responsible for wrong names of shown plants or flowers. I picture the flowers and the names always separately and just put them to the plant picture. Often I find out a week or so after showing my pictures, that a wrong name was corrected later by the Nomenclature Committee!
If there are problems about naming or different meanings about nomenclature, everybody is free to send comments to the KAVB directly.
I am sure these posts will land somehow in some Committee and be discussed.
Mark, having been a self-employed nurseryman the most years of my life, I DO HATE taking orders from others, so I would more likely prefer to read a bit more gently words, like : I don’t think this plant has the right name, because …. etc.
I think when mentioning here nursery-man(-women), they are all kind of a special breed. Rather stubborn and going straight forward, often struggling for their existence caused by unexpected circumstances.
In this forum there are a few of them (NO, no names :)) active too and when I read their comments it’s like looking into a mirror. It’s just that I, using English as a 2nd or 3rd language I often cannot express myself like I would do in my own language.
I will make it short.
Lesley’s sentence : As to criticisms, don't let them bother you, is perhaps a good expression and I will use it here.
Now back to work and later some pictures again!
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This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?
puzzle
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and some flowers from this week:
Agapanthus Blue Mystery
Agapanthus Savile Blue - Name uncertain
Allium giganteum
Allium Twinkling Stars
Gladiolus nanus Nymph
Gladiolus nanus The Bride
Ixia Eos
Gladiolus (small-flowered)
more to come
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This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?
puzzle
Strelitzia?
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This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?
puzzle
Allium fistulosum or A. pskemense?
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This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?
Must be some sort of Allium, but the only one I know the name of with stems like that is A. vavilovii?
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This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?
Must be some sort of Allium, but the only one I know the name of with stems like that is A. vavilovii?
Arisaema, I think we're on the right track, there are only a few Allium species with the hollow fatter-in-the-middle type of stems, so these are good guesses, but seeing the flowers would make the puzzle easier ;)
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This time I start with a puzzle for you.
Do you know what flower stems these are?
puzzle
No idea, but that's nothing unusual I am hopless ::)
Angie :)
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The stems of Zamioculcas leaves?
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The stems of Zamioculcas leaves?
Oh, never thought of those....... cunning idea, Michael!
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The stems of Zamioculcas leaves?
Oh, never thought of those....... cunning idea, Michael!
I never heard of Zamioculcas! Haven't checked other species, this one has inflated stems, but not "fatter-in-the-middle" type:
http://bp2.blogger.com/_eaKbvlcIK10/SHDVOuNiLlI/AAAAAAAACBA/nVbEV8xi0Jo/s1600-h/zamioculcas+zamiifolia+tubers+%28own%29.jpg
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Could it be some kind of Galtonia?
Angie :)
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Must be some sort of Allium, but the only one I know the name of with stems like that is A. vavilovii?
Found a pic of Allium vavilovii, how about them stems!
http://haveylab.hort.wisc.edu/research/allium_vavilovii.jpg
And I know I have a better photo of Allium fistulosum stems and leaves someplace, can't find it, so this one will have to do, it gives some indication of the fatter-in-the-middle leaf and stem type.
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Could it be some kind of Galtonia?
Angie :)
I think of Galtonia stems as being like fashion models.... straight up and down..... :D ;)
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Must be some sort of Allium, but the only one I know the name of with stems like that is A. vavilovii?
Found a pic of Allium vavilovii, how about them stems!
http://haveylab.hort.wisc.edu/research/allium_vavilovii.jpg
WOW!! I didn't know these existed! Fantastic 8) and, dovetailing in nicely with the World Cup Thread and the Moraea vuvuzela, this is obviously the original inspiration for the vuvuzela!! ;D ;D
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Must be some sort of Allium, but the only one I know the name of with stems like that is A. vavilovii?
Found a pic of Allium vavilovii, how about them stems!
http://haveylab.hort.wisc.edu/research/allium_vavilovii.jpg
WOW!! I didn't know these existed! Fantastic 8) and, dovetailing in nicely with the World Cup Thread and the Moraea vuvuzela, this is obviously the original inspiration for the vuvuzela!! ;D ;D
Well, lots of vees for sure, but I think that "vavilovii" is a commemorative name.
Other possibilities of Alliums with the "fatter-in-the-middle" characteristics include galanthum, oschaninii, and cepa (see link), and the aforementioned fistulosum, vavilovii, and pskemense.
http://database.prota.org/dbtw-wpd/protabase/Photfile%20Images%5CLinedrawing%20Allium%20cepa.gif
Allium pskemense is particularly distinct in this characteristic, as the leaves and stem are firm, if not hard to the touch, and glaucous blue-gray color. I think there's a good photo on John Lonsdale's web site.
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Here is Allium pskemense (described from the Pskem River, in the Flora USSR), from John Lonsdale's fabulous photo albums:
http://www.edgewoodgardens.net/Plants_album/The%20Plants%20-%20%20Complete%20Collection/Alliaceae/Allium/slides/Allium%20psekemense%200005.html
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Could it be some kind of Galtonia?
Angie :)
I think of Galtonia stems as being like fashion models.... straight up and down..... :D ;)
Ok we are looking for something round and fat ;D ::)
I think Marks Allium looks more like it then.
Angie :)
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Wonderful Agapanthus, Luit, I just love the different shades of blue.... but what is remarkable is how uniform in size they are - a wonderful display in your photograph :)
If I knew my onions I would have a go at the puzzle ;D
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You did not disappoint me Mark, it's indeed what you said first! I heard that there are several other Allium with such fat stems.
Did you know that the bulbs taste very hot? Did not eat them myself but the grower told us.
The A. vavilovii look really fantastic.
the solution of the puzzle:
Allium pskemense 1
Allium pskemense 2
and the last ones
Zantedeschia aethiopica Pink Mist
Zantedeschia aethiopica Pink Mist cl.
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Great puzzle, Luit! 8)
That Z. 'Pink Mist' is a lovely colour.
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Loved the Lonsdale image. I have a grass here which appears from time to time (a weed one), with swollen lower stems like that. I think it may be caused by a small mite or something similar.
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It's summertime, meaning that there are not so many entries at the show.
Here some pictures though:
Brodiaea Babylon
Dichelostemma Red Empire
Dichelostemma Red Empire cl
Albuca nelsonii
Albuca nelsonii cl
Pennisetum setaceum Fireworks
then a not often seen plant from N.Z. I believe?:
Arthropodium cirratum
Arthropodium cirratum cl
Gladiolus Mirella
A primulinus type, selected from G. Comet
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Wow Luit, that Dichelostemma 'Red Empire' is a cracker. Is the Gladious 'Mirella' a winter-hardy one?
johnw
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Lovely plant of Arthropodium cirratum 8)
Who wouldn't be charmed by the Dichelostemma Red Empire ? What a cute cheery flower! Individually sweet and very striking en masse. :)
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Another lovely group Luit. I lost 'Mirella' last year and when I went to buy some more this last summer, there were a dozen or so vars but not Mirell." Must keep an eye out for it next summer.
The Arthropodium cirr(h)atum is certainly a New Zealander, from the warmer, northern coastal parts and not fully hardy in the south though this is dependant on the winter each year, whether mild or not. Though it always comes away, the frosted leaves look quite mushy and disgusting. It's used a lot for street planting and as undercover for tree plantings in many areas. There are many of selected forms now, some quite pink in flower, others with extremely broad leaves, looking very lush and tropical.
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Even if less in the summer this is a interesting and fun group you have photographed to show us Luit
I love the blue Brodiaea Babylon but who could resist the spectacle of Pennisetum setaceum Fireworks! I have a bit of a thing about fireworks in the garden at the moment ;D
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All fireworks are beautiful aren't they? Robin, if you like that Pennisetum - and who wouldn't? - you'd like the NZ cordyline hybs that are around recently, with beautiful bright red, fine and falling leaves and sprays of pinky flowers which are fragrant. No picture unfortunately but I'm sure ithey will be in UK/European nurseries soon if not already. There's a beauty called 'Red Fountain' which says it all. It and the Glad. 'Mirella' are real fireworks plants and candidates for my (future) red garden. 8)
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Wow Luit, that Dichelostemma 'Red Empire' is a cracker. Is the Gladious 'Mirella' a winter-hardy one?
johnw
John, I know that G. primulinus are said to be more hardy, but don't think growers leave them over winter outside here.
As with many S. African bulbs the wet will be more a problem than the cold.
The Arthropodium cirr(h)atum is certainly a New Zealander, from the warmer, northern coastal parts and not fully hardy in the south though this is dependant on the winter each year, whether mild or not. Though it always comes away, the frosted leaves look quite mushy and disgusting. It's used a lot for street planting and as undercover for tree plantings in many areas. There are many of selected forms now, some quite pink in flower, others with extremely broad leaves, looking very lush and tropical.
Lesley, I had some problem about the naming. I always thought it's cirrhatum, but looking in the Plantfinder (book) I saw there is no h used. Therefore I changed. But my trust in those botanists is long gone already ::) ::) ;D
Did not know that there are other forms and colours, and had no idea that they even are used for plantings in NZ. Thanks for telling.
Even if less in the summer this is a interesting and fun group you have photographed to show us Luit
I love the blue Brodiaea Babylon but who could resist the spectacle of Pennisetum setaceum Fireworks! I have a bit of a thing about fireworks in the garden at the moment ;D
Robin, the Brodiaea (and Dichelostemma) were pictured after being a whole week in the Hall.
They are rather good cutflowers I think ;)
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All fireworks are beautiful aren't they? Robin, if you like that Pennisetum - and who wouldn't? - you'd like the NZ cordyline hybs that are around recently, with beautiful bright red, fine and falling leaves and sprays of pinky flowers which are fragrant. No picture unfortunately but I'm sure ithey will be in UK/European nurseries soon if not already. There's a beauty called 'Red Fountain' which says it all. It and the Glad. 'Mirella' are real fireworks plants and candidates for my (future) red garden. 8)
I shall look out for these, Lesley, they sound wonderful - fragrant too mmmmm
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Robin, the Brodiaea (and Dichelostemma) were pictured after being a whole week in the Hall.
They are rather good cutflowers I think
Luit, they look as if they have just been put on display - great to have discovered a beautiful cut flower that lasts 8)
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Luit,
Fantastic as always. Those Dichelostemma are just amazing. I have only ever had D. ida-maia, which did well for me for a number of years until dying of neglect while I was sick a few years ago. Very nice plant, but nothing compared to your wonderful red beauty!! :o
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Luit,
Fantastic as always. Those Dichelostemma are just amazing. I have only ever had D. ida-maia, which did well for me for a number of years until dying of neglect while I was sick a few years ago. Very nice plant, but nothing compared to your wonderful red beauty!! :o
I well imagine that Dichelostemma 'Red Empire' is indeed a D. ida-maia selection or hybrid.
See this Pacific Bulb Society gallery on Dichelostemma, on D. ida-maia, and as well, look at Dichelostemma venustum which talks about some natural hybrids and Dichelostemma 'Pink Diamond'.
Oops, forgot the link, here it is:
http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/dichelostemma
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Last winter, which was relatively mild, my half dozen Gladiolus 'Mirella' were frosted in their pot and died off in early leaf. This year they have come up again so the corms weren't killed. We've had a few mighty frosts and they are still looking just fine. :-\
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Special entries were Gladiolus and Agapanthus on last Monday.
You might say that we had a 'full house'
I start with Gladiolus:
Gladiolus 1
Gladiolus Flevo Spirit
Gladiolus Flevo Spirit cl
Gladiolus Flevo Effect 1
Gladiolus Flevo Effect cl
Gladiolus 2
Glamourglads
Glamourglads Mixed 1
Gladiolus 3
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There were many entries with Agapanthus in pots as well as in vases.
I selected a few ones to show here:
Agapanthus
Agapanthus Summergold
Agapanthus Heavenly 1
Agapanthus Heavenly 2
Agapanthus Monique
Agapanthus Rotterdam
Agapanthus Amsterdam
Agapanthus Enigma
Agapanthus Sofie
Agapanthus Thumbelina
more to come later
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Wow love that Agapanthus Thumbelina what amount of flower heads 8)
Angie :)
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My goodness, just a sea of blue...what a wonderful show of Agapanthus, Luit :D They are such graceful flowers, and generous in flowering in all their forms. Particularly lovely is A Rotterdam and Summergold is intriguing with variagated foliage - I wonder if it is commercially available?
Personally I prefer the simpler Gladiolus but what a display these large varieties make at Lisse - I think the low dish is the answer as they look more like the growing plant instead of standing stiffly at an angle in a vase. Thanks for showing them Luit.
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and Summergold is intriguing with variagated foliage - I wonder if it is commercially available?
Robin, I don't think they are in trade in Europe, but in USA there are some suppliers.
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One entry with a nice small Allium from Maroc, but unknown name??
Allium spec. ex Morocco 1
Allium spec. ex Morocco 2
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Then there were some pots with huge Lilium, acquired this spring from England and shown here
as L. leichtlinii.
I showed in the Lilium Thread last week a picture of L. Citronella, (better name is L. Citronella Group)
I read that Mr. Jan de Graaff in Oregon improved the Fiesta Hybrids and then hybridised them with L. amabile and
L. amabile var. luteum to get new strains out of these
One of these is the yellow flowered Lilium Citronella Group.
I don't see any significant difference with the plant shown here, ( even the stem leaves
are exactly the same ) but I was told that the real L. leichtlinii is a short lived plant,
whereas L. Citronella Group is more robust and a much better garden plant.
Well, anyway in three years we will know if the shown plant is still a good grower, which
would mean that the L. leichtlinii proved to be L. Citronella Group instead.
Lilium leichtlinii 1
Lilium leichtlinii cl (2)
Lilium leichtlinii cl
Lilium Citronella Group (garden)
Also shown were some flowers of L. davidii var. davidii:
Lilium davidii var. davidii
Lilium davidii var. davidii cl
(Lilium davidii were involved in the Fiesta Hybrids)
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In this last batch I show some other plant this Monday at the show
Galtonia viridiflora 2
Galtonia regalis
Galtonia Princeps
Eucomis
Scadoxus multiflorus
Sandersonia aurantiaca 2
Sandersonia aurantiaca cl
finishing with a nice coloured Gladiolus, exposed by a hybridizer who recently
has taken some smaller Gladiolus in his programm:
Gladiolus seedling
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Agapanthus is listed as a noxious weed in NZ where the older varieties have seeded about to such an extent they are a real problem. Here in the south they are more restrained and still available from time to time. Those above are really very good, especially those rich blues on tall stems over low, compact clumps.
Luit, you are almost on the verge of converting me to the taller Gladiolus vars. I especially like that blue in the last Glad picture of the first post. And though I hate the name, I rather like the Glamourglads with their odd colour combinations.
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One entry with a nice small Allium from Maroc, but unknown name??
Allium spec. ex Morocco 1
Allium spec. ex Morocco 2
It's a pretty little Allium, but please let me break this to you gently, it cannot be a species from Morocco, at least not a species *native* to Morocco. The genus Allium in Africa is exhaustively documented in "A Revision of The Genus Allium L. (Liliaceae) in Africa" by Brigitta de Wilde-Duyfjes, a detailed and voluminous work of some 237 pages, for which 31 species are accepted and treated in great detail. Even though the author is a taxonomic "lumper" versus a splitter, there are no members of Allium section Rhizirideum found in Africa, and the plant shown in the two photos is clearly a member of Allium section Rhizirideum.
The photos show a form, or probably a hybrid, of the amorphous European/Asian Allium senescens (which includes ssp. montanum, lusitanicum); I grow many plants that look just like this, or similar to this. I believe most of the smaller plants of the "senescens-ilk" to be hybrids. Allium senescens (both ssp. montanum and ssp. glaucum) hybridize freely with other related European and Asian species such as A. angulosum, rubens, nutans, and others, creating varying looking plants, but always with that "senescens look" to the flower umbel and other tell-tale plant characteristics. I estimate at least 30% of plants grown from seed exchanges, or even plants represented in botanical gardens, end up actually being misidentified and replaced with varying forms of widely variable Allium senescens.
So, the plant might be labeled as "Allium spec. ex Morocco", but it is most likely a mistake, sorry.
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Mark, this is very helpful! I found out today who has brought it from Marocco and send him a mail with the question if he found it in a garden or if it was growing somewhere in the fields. I hope I get an answer soon? At least we know now that Marocco is not the original habitat.
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Sandersonia aurantiaca has a great looking flower like lots of lanterns hanging on the stems and a fine leaf too, decorative and fun 8)
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there is no name Allium dirixum, most likely a corruption of A. "permixtum", which is a synonym of Allium subhirsutum.
Mark, the grower who exhibited some weeks ago the flowers with the name Allium dirixum has got the seeds from NARGS seedlist as "Allium diriuxm" in 2002/2003.
Maybe it is possible to trace with some person from NARGS Seed exchange, where these seeds with this 'fancy' name came from ?
As Maggi always says: "There is always a clue" ::) ::) ;)
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there is no name Allium dirixum, most likely a corruption of A. "permixtum", which is a synonym of Allium subhirsutum.
Mark, the grower who exhibited some weeks ago the flowers with the name Allium dirixum has got the seeds from NARGS seedlist as "Allium diriuxm" in 2002/2003.
Maybe it is possible to trace with some person from NARGS Seed exchange, where these seeds with this 'fancy' name came from ?
As Maggi always says: "There is always a clue" ::) ::) ;)
Indeed, there is always a clue. I keep my past Seedex lists, and checking the NARGS 2002/2003 seedlist, I do find the entry for Allium "diriuxm" (the misspelling sounding like a diuretic medication ;D). When one finds such name corruptions in a seed list, it could be from the seed exchange volunteers trying to decipher really bad handwriting, or a garbled misspelling coming from the donor, or both... so it's hard to pinpoint the source of the mistake, although since the NARGS does list the donors name/location, it can be noted the seed donation was from the UK, but no names to be revealed here... I'm sure an honest mistake.
Thanks Luit for following up on this, it is interesting seeing how such names and spelling errors get around, the seed and plants get around the world and recycled back into the system, what goes around comes around, it's a small world after all.
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Mark now you are making me more curious about the seed sender from UK ::) ::). But I don't need to know who it was!
It's more the question how somebody (and maybe a good gardener) comes to such naming of seeds. Though A. diriuxm sounds really interesting, doesn't it ;D ;D
Well, I do know of several people who are keen to order more seeds when they send in some seeds (no matter what seeds!) :-X :-X
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Yesterday we saw again many colorful Gladiolus entries and I pictured some other
entries too.
Gladiolus Glamourglads Mix
Gladiolus
Gladiolus Flevo Fun
Gladiolus Flevo Frizzle
Tritonia laxifolia
Tritonia lineata var. parviflora = parvifolia
Since two weeks and still good looking there was a vase with Allium amethystinum
Finally a nice pot Haemanthus:
Haemanthus hirsutus Pretoria Form
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Since two weeks and still good looking there was a vase with Allium amethystinum
Luit, that's a fabulous form of Allium amethystinum, both for color and shape, VERY NICE. The photo shows well the unique two-tier effect, when fertilized flowers shoot upwards and create the "upper tier".
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Super display once again, Luit.
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Haemanthus hirsutus Pretoria Form is very cute, Luit, and the Allium amethystinum is fantastic in colour and shape as Mark describes.
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Super display once again, Luit.
Posted 02.56 AM.............. you had the early shift Cliff?? ;D ;D ;D
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Super display once again, Luit.
Posted 02.56 AM.............. you had the early shift Cliff?? ;D ;D ;D
'Sleepless in Whitworth', Luit ... indigestion again! ;D
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I love Allium amethystinum. It's like some wild and exotic bird with an excitable crest. ;D
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Fantastic variety of flowers, Luit.
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Allium amethystinum is fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Loved it very much!
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When for the Weekly Show special entries of a plant genus are invited to show, it will give the visitors the opportunity to see the new developments in hybridisation too.
One of these competitions this week was for the Genus Eucomis.
The hybridisation of Eucomis is rather young, so growers have to find out what people like to buy.
Here a few pictures from this week:
Eucomis Tugela Ruby
Eucomis autumnalis
Eucomis Dwarf Red
Eucomis montana White Heaven (with nice margins on the leaf edge!)
Eucomis Baby Coral
Eucomis zambesiaca
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The other special Genus this week was Zantedeschia, which is at the moment rather trendy product in the cutflower trade.
For instance, in 2009 there were about 89.000.000 Zantedeschia flowers sold at the Dutch auctions.
In the last 20 years there is an enormous progression in hybridisation.
Here a little survey of this product shown this week:
Zantedeschia 1
Zantedeschia 2
Zantedeschia Black Star
Zantedeschia Ventura
Zantedeschia Autumn Jewel
Zantedeschia Red Star
Zantedeschia Sweetheart
Zantedeschia Promise
Zantedeschia Auckland
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Zantedeschia Mirage
Zantedeschia Safari
Zantedeschia Carrera
Zantedeschia Vermeer
Zantedeschia Red Alert
Zantedeschia Aguila
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And a few pictures of some other entries:
Colchicum parnassicum
Dahlia nieuw 1
Dahlia nieuw 1a
Dahlia nieuw 2
Dahlia Happy Go Lucky 1
Dahlia Happy Go Lucky 1a
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What an exciting selection this week Luit. I like all the Eucomis, especially the shorter types and those Zantedeschia are e xtraordinary... so perfectly sculptured... some in wax and some in porcelain... and all painted so exquisitely in the most stunning colours.
And I must comment on the sweet "face" of Dahlia 'Happy Go Lucky' too .... 8)
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I have to agree with Maggi, Luit, I'd like to get my hands on some of those Eucomis. Some real beauties.
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The black Zants...Oh My God!
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Eucomis Dwarf Red
Eucomis montana White Heaven (with nice margins on the leaf edge!)
Wonderful plants and I would love these two! How long does the flower last on the whole? I have never grown Eucomis but they are definitely on my list, thanks to this tantalising selection Luit :)
The dark Zantedeschia are amazing too!
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Robin, I never grew Eucomis myself, but the flower stems last rather long. Most of them show nice seed stems after wilting.
Please have a look at this new topic:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5893.msg162911#msg162911 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5893.msg162911#msg162911)
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Robin, I never grew Eucomis myself, but the flower stems last rather long. Most of them show nice seed stems after wilting.
Please have a look at this new topic:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5893.msg162911#msg162911 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5893.msg162911#msg162911)
Ha Ha! I was just coming to make a link to the new thread, Luit!!
Robin... the flowers last for a long time on Eucomis... as well as the flowering stem being most attractive as it forms and extends, which can take quite a while, then, as Luit says, the stems look good as the plant forms seedpods, too, so all in all you get a long season of interest from them.
Some are more hardy than others, i think, but worth a try, for sure, if you see them offered.
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Some pictures of this week:
Crocosmia Babylon
Crocosmia Nimbus
Crocosmia
Allium sativum (Ophioscorodon Group)
Gladiolus papilio
Gladiolus papilio cl
Kniphofia Ice Queen
Begonia marmorata
Albuca wakefieldii
Amaryllis belladonna Purpurea Major
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Dahlia seedl.
Dahlia seedl. cl
Dahlia Contraste
Dahlia Cryfield Harmony
Dahlia for cutting
Allium Summer Drummer
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Allium Summer Drummer and A. sativum are great - such a twissler fit for a cocktail drink! The Dahlia seedl is very fine too - it must be Autumn :)
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Luit, I love the photo of Allium sativum var. ophioscorodon (serpent garlic); reminds me that I grew this for a while and the corkscrew flower stems and buds are such fun to watch, changing day by day. It would be great to do a time-lapse movie of them at this stage of their development. Once the spathes would actually open showing the knobby bulbilliferous heads, I would cut them off.
Now, for 'Summer Drummer', I wonder what underlying species it is. I like the name 'Summer Drummer', as it is a summer-blooming "drumstick" allium; the name is fitting. The Allium section Allium species are rather difficult to tell apart from flowers alone, but to me this looks like it might be one of the allied species, A. commutatum, ampeloprasum, porrum, atroviolaceum... although something about it looks most like A. commutatum. Luit, do you know what species 'Summer Drummer' is a selection of?
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Mark, I only know that A. Summer Drummer was registrated in 2006.
The grower of it, does select and breed a lot in Allium.
I'll ask around a little to find out which species are involved.
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Some flowers at the show immediately attract the visitors by their color or vibrancy.
Here is such an example:
Dahlia Isadora 2
Dahlia Isadora 1
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and here some more Dahlia
Dahlia
Dahlia 1
Dahlia 2
Dahlia Vassio Meggos
Dahlia Red Flamboyant
Dahlia Sorbet 1
Dahlia Sorbet 2
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Some other entries:
In this hall it's almost impossible to make a good picture of small flowers like Acis.
Their is always the cooling system to keep temps around 15 C. to keep flowers nice for
the rest of the week
Acis autumnalis
Therefore I made an extra picture today at home, but the wind was blowing too... ::) ::)
Acis autumnalis tuin
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And I saw a nice vase with
Bessera elegans
a new Eucomis (best vase at the show)
Eucomis [Johannesburg] Proposed name.
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Earlier in the morning the committee was invited to look at the KAVB garden where some
entries of Eucomis were planted.
Here is one which received an AM
Eucomis Reuben
(from a NZ breeder)
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The last one will gladden Brian's heart. :D
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You know me too well Lesley ;D ;D ;D
Eucomis 'Reuben' is splendid Luit, the New Zealand breeders have produced some really good Eucomis...I realise I have a soft spot for the ones with pink/red flowers as the dwarf red also took my eye. I must nip up to the greenhouse for a quick fix! 8)
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As I did not see any connection, I just was about to ask 'Brian ??'
Now I see ;D
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I havent looked at these for so long. So many desireable plants
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I havent looked at these for so long. So many desireable plants
Impossible to see and follow all topics on this forum Mark. At least it's so with me ::) ::)
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Some pictures from Monday:
Eucomis comosa sel.
Eucomis comosa Playa Blanca
Lilium speciosum var. Rubrum
Lilium speciosum var. Rubrum cl.
Lilium speciosum var. Album
Eucomis pole-evansii [or. E. pallida] 1
Eucomis pole-evansii [or. E. pallida] 2
Eucomis pole-evansii
Eucomis montana sel.
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and some lilies:
Lilium 1
Lilium 2
Lilium 3
Lilium double yellow 1
Lilium double yellow cl
Lilium 4
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Luit, normally I would pick a lily that is white or more strongly coloured but the pink lily, green tinged, is really beautiful with contrasting anthers. Eucomis montana sel has a really cheeky look about it saying: 'Yeah well, I really am a pineapple but this is the Lisse Show isn't it' ;D
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Some pictures from Monday:
Eucomis comosa sel.
Eucomis comosa Playa Blanca
Lilium speciosum var. Rubrum
Lilium speciosum var. Rubrum cl.
Lilium speciosum var. Album
Eucomis pole-evansii [or. E. pallida] 1
Eucomis pole-evansii [or. E. pallida] 2
Eucomis pole-evansii
Eucomis montana sel.
Handsome plants Luit, it's a good job the Lilies were there to combat the scent of the Eucomis ;D ;D
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Nice plants Luit!!!
Interesting contradiction in my taste. I very dislike double Oriental lilies, but very appriciate double asiatics. They really look nice even for my very conservative taste. I grow some cultivars with pleasure and enjoy them a lot.
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Luit, normally I would pick a lily that is white or more strongly coloured but the pink lily, green tinged, is really beautiful with contrasting anthers. Eucomis montana sel has a really cheeky look about it saying: 'Yeah well, I really am a pineapple but this is the Lisse Show isn't it' ;D
Robin, making the pictures does not always mean that I like those enormous lilies ::)
But it is very interesting to see how the breeders achieve more 'up-looking' trumpets since some years.
Handsome plants Luit, it's a good job the Lilies were there to combat the scent of the Eucomis ;D ;D
Brian, so you do know about the scent of lilies... ;D The bad thing is that these big groups are not inside the show hall but rather close to the Committee's coffee table ::) ::) :-X
Nice plants Luit!!!
Interesting contradiction in my taste. I very dislike double Oriental lilies, but very appreciate double asiatics. They really look nice even for my very conservative taste. I grow some cultivars with pleasure and enjoy them a lot.
Zhirair, I understand what you mean, but there is so much choice that everybody may pick some favourites for the garden.
For me personally are the species always the most attractive ones.
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The bad thing is that these big groups are not inside the show hall but rather close to the Committee's coffee table ::) ::) :-X
The Show secretary must have a warped sense of humour Luit ;D ;D ::) ;D ;D
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The bad thing is that these big groups are not inside the show hall but rather close to the Committee's coffee table ::) ::) :-X
The Show secretary must have a warped sense of humour Luit ;D ;D ::) ;D ;D
Most do, Brian ... it's a prerequisite! :D
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Allium amethystinum
I saw this allium on Saturday in a fancy flower shop in Greenwich Village
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Allium amethystinum
I saw this allium on Saturday in a fancy flower shop in Greenwich Village
Very likely, because they are grown here in the cutflower branch too Arnold.
You should have bought some, they are very long lasting ::) ;D
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September is the time of year to show autumn-flowering bulbs.
I start this series with a pot of tulips (no joke) ;D ;D
It is a sport of T. Candela and the bulbs were kept from last year's crop.
Tulipa Soroptimist
there were two exhibitors with Amaryllis belladonna
Amaryllis belladonna 1
Amaryllis belladonna 2
Amaryllis belladonna pink seedl.
Amaryllis belladonna Candidissima
Amaryllis belladonna Beacon [syn. Port Elizabeth]
Amaryllis belladonna White Queen
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A vase with the not often shown cross of Nerine bowdenii x Amaryllis belladonna
Amaryllis Nerine bowdenii x Amaryllis belladonna
Amaryllis Nerine bowdenii x Amaryllis belladonna cl.
and there was the lovely Crinum moorei
Crinum moorei cl
I finish with Lycoris shown in a pot and in a vase
Lycoris rood pot
Lycoris rood
Lycoris rood cl
Lycoris rood cl. 2
Of the Lycoris I made more pictures than necessary, but these flowers a so exquisite..... :D
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Each week there are more beauties to marvel at, Luit 8)
All of these are plants I would LOVE to grow..... but where is the space? :-X
The tulips are a BIG Surprise!! :o
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Sensational colours (as always), Luit. Many thanks once again for taking the time and trouble to post these beautiful examples.
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Luit your Lycoris rood photos show how just how much you like this flower and it is exquisite in detail :D It is definitely my favourite from the show this week
Where does the name of the surprising tulip flowering now come from? Tulipa Soroptimist - certainly an optimist!
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Thanks all for the compliments :D
Where does the name of the surprising tulip flowering now come from? Tulipa Soroptimist - certainly an optimist!
Hmmm, I expected you (as a woman) could tell me this Robin?? ::) :-X :-*
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How ignorant I am :-[ but learning through Lisse ;D
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861710495/Soroptimist.html
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How ignorant I am :-[ but learning through Lisse ;D
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861710495/Soroptimist.html
;D ;D Here are two links for you Robin:
http://www.soroptimistinternational.org/ (http://www.soroptimistinternational.org/)
and one in Dutch (look at the picture in the middle!) Under 'Nieuwsflits, wait some seconds because the flash is changing and you will see this tulip too.
http://www.soroptimist.nl/html/index.php (http://www.soroptimist.nl/html/index.php)
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Thanks Luit 8)
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Fantastic Luit.
Love the Lycoris but the Amaryllis are also quirw something. How on earth do they flower Lycoris radiata over there? Do they cook them in a greenhouse. As mentioned before I got bulbs in 1975 from Park Seeds and have never had a flower. Maybe this year.
Be great if you could quiz the grower.
Nerines are getting anxious to leaf here but the recent heat has slowed them down. Foggy and coolish today - circa 18c.
johnw
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Fantastic Luit.
Be great if you could quiz the grower.
johnw
I will give it a try John, but I don't promise an answer John.
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Allium amethystinum
I saw this allium on Saturday in a fancy flower shop in Greenwich Village
Very likely, because they are grown here in the cutflower branch too Arnold.
You should have bought some, they are very long lasting ::) ;D
And some cut alliums, A christophii as an example, will develop fertile seed in a vase, and the seed then germinate from the maturing but still green capsules. I know, because I've done it - had the flowers/seeds/germination I mean, from stems cut as the flowers were just starting.
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I also really like the Lycoris 8)
Each week there are more beauties to marvel at, Luit 8)
All of these are plants I would LOVE to grow..... but where is the space? :-X
Maggi I have a spare pony paddock are you any good with a spade ::)
Angie :)
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Last week I finished with a red Lycoris radiata, so this week I am happy
to start with a yellow Lycoris. I made 2 pictures of it and the first one shows that
in this hall plants are standing mostly at a difficult place to make good pictures.
For the second one I had to move the pot out of the sun, but then it is much less sharp.
Lycoris aurea 1
Lycoris aurea 2
The collection of Colchicum could not get moved but with some photoshopping resulted in a rather satisfactory result.
Colchicum coll.
The same with the enormous pot of Amarygia with 6 stems which was to heavy to move.
Amarygia x parkeri Alba 1
Amarygia x parkeri Alba 2
Cyrtantus elatus Pink Diamond
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Since two weeks there was a vase in the hall with Eryngium alpinum and still looking good.
Another difficult one to make a good picture of in this hall, is a rather blackish Dahlia.
I made several ones, but in all of them is the mirror of the windows to see.
Dahlia Black Jack
Dahlia Mick's Peppermint
Schyzostylis Jennifer
Nerine fothergillii Major
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That's one stunning Dahlia all right! 8) Black as you hat! :D
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Fantastic plants Luit, especially the Amaryllis belladonna hybrids / cultivars - I would love to see your pictures of Amarygia x parkeri too, if you don't mind. I grow these plants as well but seldom manage to get them to flower - perhaps in another time or place I will be more successful...
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Fantastic plants Luit, especially the Amaryllis belladonna hybrids / cultivars - I would love to see your pictures of Amarygia x parkeri too, if you don't mind. I grow these plants as well but seldom manage to get them to flower - perhaps in another time or place I will be more successful...
Rogan, I doubt if I will ever see Amarygia x parkeri here? Should this be a pink one?
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Hi Luit,great pics as usual,and I would also like to see the pics of Amarygia x parkeri they are not showing up in your post, bye Ray
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Last week I finished with a red Lycoris radiata, so this week I am happy
to start with a yellow Lycoris. I made 2 pictures of it and the first one shows that
in this hall plants are standing mostly at a difficult place to make good pictures.
For the second one I had to move the pot out of the sun, but then it is much less sharp.
Lycoris aurea 1
Lycoris aurea 2
The collection of Colchicum could not get moved but with some photoshopping resulted in a rather satisfactory result.
Colchicum coll.
The same with the enormous pot of Amarygia with 6 stems which was to heavy to move.
Amarygia x parkeri Alba 1
Amarygia x parkeri Alba 2
Cyrtantus elatus Pink Diamond
Ray's right, Luit, there are no pix of the Amarygia x parkeri showing in your post on the previous page , the one quoted above :-\
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Ray's right, Luit, there are no pix of the Amarygia x parkeri showing in your post on the previous page , the one quoted above :-\
And I thought that I had already some experience with postings to the Forum ;D ;D ;D
Don't know what went wrong but here are the pictures.
Amarygia x parkeri Alba 1
Amarygia x parkeri Alba 2
Enjoy!
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Certainly worth a little wait ... many thanks Luit!
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Wonderful series Luit !! :o
The Schyzostylis is my favourite !
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Thanks Luit, really worth the wait! ;D
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Fantastic Luit.
Love the Lycoris but the Amaryllis are also quirw something. How on earth do they flower Lycoris radiata over there? Do they cook them in a greenhouse. As mentioned before I got bulbs in 1975 from Park Seeds and have never had a flower. Maybe this year.
Be great if you could quiz the grower.
johnw
John, I asked the grower about his culture and he says it is a very easy plant. Just in a short period before flowering they need very much water.
He told me that he some years ago stopped with the culture and in his glasshouse he took his rotary hoe to clean his soil for Anigozanthus plants. After some years he took these out again
because they got too big and then everywhere appeared young Lycoris. He obviously hat chipped them with his machine.
Here are some links where you will see that it might become even a weed in some USA states ::) ::) ;D
Missouri Botanical Garden Bulb Garden:
http://www.mobot.org/GARDENINGHELP/PLANTFINDER/Plant.asp?Code=C535
(http://www.mobot.org/GARDENINGHELP/PLANTFINDER/Plant.asp?Code=C535)
http://www.gardening.eu/plants/Bulbs/Lycoris-radiata/2534/
(http://www.gardening.eu/plants/Bulbs/Lycoris-radiata/2534/)
escaped into nature:
http://alabamaplants.com/Redalt/Lycoris_radiata_page.html
(http://alabamaplants.com/Redalt/Lycoris_radiata_page.html)
http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/ar/archive/dec05/flower1205.htm (http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/ar/archive/dec05/flower1205.htm)
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=LYRA (http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=LYRA)
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Luit - Thanks for the research. Late last summer I repotted all 60+ bulbs into a 35cm clay pot and gave them full sun all summer until they died down in early August. They were kept quite dry for the 8 weeks so we will see what transpires. I will give them a big drink at noon and stand back.
Wonderful shots in the wild.
It has cooled off here though days are 21+c but the nights chilly. Primulas have recuperated. On the weekend we pulled the Nerines out of storage only to find one in full flower and several with stems already up 25cm.
thanks again
john
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Love the Nerine fothergillii Major, Luit, what a colour!
For our daughter's wedding in Oct 2006 we mixed the palest pink Schyzostylis in her hand made spray with autumn tinted leaves and they looked stunning - the same plants come up in our garden and flower each year to remind us of that very happy occasion :D
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I start with a picture I normally would not show here because it is rather blurred I'm afraid.
But I thought the plant being to special for not showing here.
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Colchicum sanguicolle
Some autumnflowering bulbs:
Bessera elegans
Nerine bowdenii x Amaryllis belladonna 1
Nerine bowdenii x Amaryllis belladonna2
Eucomis Joy's Purple
Crocosmia Mistral
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Since some years more Zantedeschia for pot culture are coming on the market.
Here a few I picked out at the show:
Zantedeschia Picasso
Zantedeschia Serrada
Zantedeschia Odessa
Begonia are not often seen but here are some:
Begonia grandis var. evansiana forma alba
Begonia Zwitserland
and the best vase at the show was
Sandersonia aurantiaca
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Many thanks for the latest pictures Luit and I am glad you included the Colchicum sanguicolle - it looks an interesting species.
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What a lovely vase full of Sandersonias Luit! Mine are just starting into growth as we speak and I can't wait for the first flowers. It is quite wonderful encountering this plant in the wild where it is widespread but rare.
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Rogan, have you got any photos of Sandersonia in the wild? It really is a glorious in your vase full Luit. lovely too to see my favourite Nerines - when all is ending they appear as such wonderful delicate statements of exotica :)
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Rogan, have you got any photos of Sandersonia in the wild?
I would like to see them as well Rogan.
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After being away for some weeks, I was told that still many Nerines were shown.
Happyliy these new hybrids last rather long in a vase, so I could still make photos from last week's entries.
The grower of these hybrids has now divided his hybrids in groups.
So there is a N. Bowdenii Group, a N. Elegance Group and a N. Bella Donna Group.
The aim of the breeder is to make Nerines which can be grown outside all summer and will produce
good cutflowers in autumn without expensive glasshouse culture.
Here some pictures:
Nerine New hybrids
Nerine Elegance Group
Nerine bowdenii Group mixed
Nerine Elegance Gr. Salmon Seedl.
Nerine bowdenii Gr. Berenice
Nerine Bella Donna Gr. Anneke
some other entries:
Allium thunbergii var. Ozawa
Cyperus endemitus
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and some other longer known Nerines were shown as well:
Nerine sarniensis Corusca Major
Nerine bowdenii Alba
Nerine bowdenii Isabel
Nerine masoniorum
Nerine sarniensis dr. rood
Nerine Joan
Nerine Marnie Rogerson
an a nice Begonia plant:
Begonia Picotee
Begonia Picotee cl
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Nerines do last well when cut for a vase but I find their scent to be unpleasant..... did you notice a bad smell with those, Luit?
Are all nerines rather smelly or are some nicely fragrant?
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Wonderful Nerines especially Berenice and Dr Rood.
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Beautiful Nerine pictures, Luit. Just recently I've been seeing stems of these new hybrids, particularly the Nerine Belladonna group appearing in local florists here in Gloucestershire.
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Luit, often I`m only a lurker without words in this chat. But I like the late flowering Nerine so much. Thank you to the nederlandse plantartists for these wonderful flowers/plants. They have so much more colors than Galanthus.
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Nerines do last well when cut for a vase but I find their scent to be unpleasant..... did you notice a bad smell with those, Luit?
Are all nerines rather smelly or are some nicely fragrant?
Maggi, the smell is at least not so strong as for instance with Lilium or Eucomis. In the show hall it is not more than 15 C, so we hardly smell them.
But I will try tomorrow on some N. sarniensis and others at my place.
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Beautiful Nerine pictures, Luit. Just recently I've been seeing stems of these new hybrids, particularly the Nerine Belladonna group appearing in local florists here in Gloucestershire.
Good to hear they are already sold overseas Malcolm. I has always been a problem to make Nerine a good seller in the cutflower branch, despite they last 2 weeks in a vase.
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Luit, often I`m only a lurker without words in this chat. But I like the late flowering Nerine so much. Thank you to the nederlandse plantartists for these wonderful flowers/plants. They have so much more colors than Galanthus.
Glad you like them too Hagen, but I know that you are not only fond of snowdrops ;)
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Wonderful Nerines especially Berenice and Dr Rood.
Anne, I forgot to change the name into English. It looks now like Dr. Rood is a person, but means Dark Red ;D ::)
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I just love nerines. I bought Nerine bowdenii Alba last week. I really like Nerine Joan. So many nice ones there I must try and get more.
Thanks for the lovely pictures.
Angie :)
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Beautiful Nerine pictures, Luit. Just recently I've been seeing stems of these new hybrids, particularly the Nerine Belladonna group appearing in local florists here in Gloucestershire.
Good to hear they are already sold overseas Malcolm. I has always been a problem to make Nerine a good seller in the cutflower branch, despite they last 2 weeks in a vase.
And if you keep the stems in fresh water after the flowers fade the seeds will develop and you can start your own plants!
cheers
fermi
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It never ceases to amaze me - Nerine sarniensis is native to this country, but so seldom seen or heard of here, yet it is so popular elsewhere! ??? I have quite a few seedlings coming on from kind donations on this forum and hope to see their gorgeous flowers in the not too distant future.
Re. photos of wild Sandersonia aurantiaca: I have a coupla pictures stashed away here somewhere (slides) and will dig them out to scan.
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.And if you keep the stems in fresh water after the flowers fade the seeds will develop and you can start your own plants!
cheers
fermi
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Unfortunately these are female-sterile triploids, so no seeds; but you can use the pollen
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Re. photos of wild Sandersonia aurantiaca: I have a coupla pictures stashed away here somewhere (slides) and will dig them out to scan.
Looking forward to them Rogan :)
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Maggi some of the red Nerine sarniensis smell of c-h-o-c-o-l-a-t-e
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Maggi some of the red Nerine sarniensis smell of c-h-o-c-o-l-a-t-e
That is a real plus point, Mark!
The bowdenii types all seem to have that nasty musty"insect" smell....... :P
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Today I looked at my Nerine bowdenii Marnie Rogerson and did smell nothing.
I also tried the smell of the red Nerine sarniensis Mysore and this indeed smells like chocolate :D, whereas a white and a pink flowered did not smell at all.
Nerine sarniensis Mysore
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Today I looked at my Nerine bowdenii Marnie Rogerson and did smell nothing.
I also tried the smell of the red Nerine sarniensis Mysore and this indeed smells like chocolate :D, whereas a white and a pink flowered did not smell at all.
Nerine sarniensis Mysore
Stunning and to spell of chocolate...what more would I need ;D
Angie :)
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Not so many entries in this time of the year, so I combined 2 weeks
Here the pictures:
various entries
Crocus goulimyi Mani White
Crocus speciosus Conqueror
Nerine 1
Oxalis polyphylla var. pentaphylla
Nerine Ostara 1
Amarine tubergenii
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Scilla lingulata
Nerine bowdenii rose
Oxalis anomala
Astilbe
Astilbe Hip Hop
Nerine bowdenii Stephanie
Nerine 2
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A wonderful display of Nerines, Luit. Are they scented?
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I feel lost this autumn with no Nerine collection :'(
Anne the reds have the best scent
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Did you loose them all?
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45 pots of multiple bulbs. I had planned to do a surplus list this year
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Luit - A superb show yet again. Thanks.
Mark - I too have had the worst show ever on the potted Nerines. The frustrating thing is how does one determine the cause. If they take 2 years to send up their buds was it last year's dark summer weather that killed the buds, or last winter's new storage at a temp higher than the past, the transplanting last autumn or were they starved the year before and set no buds? Yes, very frustrating!
125mm of rain expected before the end on Sunday night.
N. bowdenii fully out near the house.
johnw
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45 pots of multiple bulbs. I had planned to do a surplus list this year
Did you have any survivors, Mark? I'm interested, because it seems that some hybrids may be a little hardier than those that are pure sarniensis, although none will survive being frozen solid
John, high summer temperatures can also cause nerine buds to abort, so if it has been particularly hot with you this summer, that might've had an effect.
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John, high summer temperatures can also cause nerine buds to abort, so if it has been particularly hot with you this summer, that might've had an effect.
Malcolm
We had 3 or 4 hot days in early September but the Nerines were in coolish storage. One hot day in August 2009 - 29c - which most would not consider hot and it cooled off at night.
johnw
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Just a few entries this time of year
Nerine bowdenii Wellsii
Nerine flexuosa Alba
Nerine Mansellii
Nerine undulata
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Luit , the nerines are so lovely. I really like the last one Nerine undulate.
I think I shall have to try and get some more nerines, they are so lovely.
Nice to look at on a cold wet morning.
Angie :)
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I agree with Angie, a ray of sunshine on this awful wet day - I love the red Nerine sarniensis Mysore such a striking colour
Also the Oxalis anomala is very sweet and the Scilla lingulata pot is fabulous!
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I agree with Angie, a ray of sunshine on this awful wet day - I love the red Nerine sarniensis Mysore such a striking colour
I am glad I could at least cheer both of you up. Here it is dry but grey and just about 5 C.
and the Scilla lingulata pot is fabulous!
No wonder :D :D :D ( but at this moment flowering is almost over )
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Here it is dry but grey and just about 5 C.
Goodness me.... as nice as that, eh? ! :-X
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as nice as that
just nice enough to take some cuttings in the garden and plant them inside ;D ;D ;)
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Yes superb Scilla lingulata :o
Is it yours Luit?
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Yes superb Scilla lingulata :o
Is it yours Luit?
:D :D :D
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;) Thought so. Beautifully grown.
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Just a few entries this week. Very special were 40 different flowers of Nerine bowdenii hybrids in two vases.
The flowers of these hybrids which I showed during the last week came all from outside.
This week the flowers came from glasshouse production.
Nerine bowdenii 40 diff
Nerine bowdenii
Hedychium gaerdnerianum
Leucoryne Andes
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Wonderful vases of Nerines Luit, just the thing to cheer us up on a cold night.
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We do have just a little bit of snow here and it is cold as well, though
not more than -5 during the night, so snowdrop time is arriving here too.
One entry showed 3 pots with Galanthus elwesii and a named one will be registered.
It seems to be a good grower as well.
Galanthus elwesii
Galanthus elwesii Else Grollenberg
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Another entry showed a nice pot Galanthus reginae-olgae ssp. vernalis
and there was a pot Narcissus cyclamineus.
The grower named it originally Narcissus Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
But for the trade and for registration he named it just Llanfair :)
Narcissus Llanfair
Lachenalia bulbifera
And for Brian a vase with (still nice) Nerine bowdenii to cheer him up :D
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Wonderful vases of Nerines, Luit - they cheered me up too! It is astonishing in this bitter cold here in UK they are still holding their heads up high outside as the only flowering colour.
I am not a fan of peachy trumpeted Narcissus but just for the Welsh name in full one has to admire it !!!!
Snowdrops already? Lovely to see :)
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And for Brian a vase with (still nice) Nerine bowdenii to cheer him up :D
How kind Luit, not only Nerines but snowdrops too :D 8) ;D
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Snowdrops already?
Robin, you know there are pages on this forum where snowdrops seemingly flower all year round and if not,
those dropaholics make them flower all year ;D ;D :-X
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:) :D ;D I'm only a wee dropaholic then ;)
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How do you distinguish bewtween a late Galanthus reginae-olgae and an early Galanthus reginae-olgae vernalis ???
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How do you distinguish bewtween a late Galanthus reginae-olgae and an early Galanthus reginae-olgae vernalis ???
And is Galanthus corcyrensis the same as Galanthus reginae-olgae vernalis? Mine usually starts flowering in November and goes on till February but was later than usual this year, just starting to show colour when the snow came last week.
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How do you distinguish bewtween a late Galanthus reginae-olgae and an early Galanthus reginae-olgae vernalis ???
Arthur, don't ask me. I'm a snowdrop dummie ;D
Maybe you should ask this at the Galanthus pages. The people there will be happy to tell, you I believe :D ;)
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How do you distinguish bewtween a late Galanthus reginae-olgae and an early Galanthus reginae-olgae vernalis ???
And is Galanthus corcyrensis the same as Galanthus reginae-olgae vernalis? Mine usually starts flowering in November and goes on till February but was later than usual this year, just starting to show colour when the snow came last week.
Roma, about Galanthus reginae-olgae subsp.vernalis there is an AGS Plant Portrait, see:
http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/servlet/articleservlet?command=viewarticle&category1=plantportrait&sitearea=plantportrait&articleid=19&category=plantportrait (http://www.alpinegardensociety.net/servlet/articleservlet?command=viewarticle&category1=plantportrait&sitearea=plantportrait&articleid=19&category=plantportrait)
Franz Hadacek on his website says this about G. corcyrensis:
Galanthus corcyrensis - Corfu (Greece). This is an autumn-blooming species. F.C. Stern considered G.corcyrensis a separate species on the basis that it flowered with the leaves
Peter Nijssen means that G. corcyrensis is a synonym of Galanthus reginae-olgae subsp. reginae-olgae (Syn.: G. corcyrensis, G. nivalis subsp. reginae-olgae, G. olgae, G. praecox en G. reginae-olgae subsp. corcyrensis)
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Just a few entries from the last two weeks.
This first pot of hyacinths started the new bulb season:
Hyacinthus Purple Sensation
Two weeks a pot with Ipheion was shown repeatedly.
Planted one bulb in 2002.
Ipheion sessile week1
Ipheion sessile week2
Ipheion sessile cl
and the last picture is of a nice snowdrop:
Galanthus cilicicus
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Thanks Luit. I've never seen Galanthus cilicicus in flower before.
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I echo the thanks Luit, it means I don't have to go up the garden to see mine in the cold glasshouse in this dreadful weather ;)
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Ashley, Brian I'm glad you are happy with my snowdrop picture.
Seemingly this is one which is not so often discussed or shown on the Forum pages ;)
I like it too because it is just a snowdrop as one should look for me.
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Here are my last pictures of the Weekly Shows in 2010
Normally the hall is bursting of flowers on this last Show of the year, but this early winter makes it
more difficult to get the flowers just in time. Cold outside and less light do give some problems.
The first picture I made yesterday of the garden with about 40 cm. snow.
Then there was only one entry with Narcissus.
Hyacinths were more to see and specially some nice arrangements were shown.
Tuin 2010.12.20
Narcissus Erlicheer
Narcissus Erlicheer pot
Hyacinthus Anastasia
Hyacinthus Atlantic arr.
Hyacinthus Avalanche
Hyacinthus Blue Pearl
Hyacinthus Prince of Holland
Hyacinthus Red seedlings
Hyacinthus Yellowstone arr.
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Lachenalia viridiflora
Tulipa groep 1
Tulipa H 3-1
Tulipa J 9-1
Tulipa Marrero
Tulipa Red Label
Tulipa Snow Patrol
and I chose one lily (more for the warm color) :)
Lilium Bacardi
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I started with a snowy picture and finish with some "snow" as well!
Galanthus fosteri var antepensis
Galanthus fosteri var antepensis cl.
I wish you all a Happy Christmas and a very good 2011!
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Thank you Luit for all your posts from the weekly shows, I thoroughly enjoy them.
Hyacinths are bulbs I refuse to buy only because some years ago I bought a selection from a local garden centre. I ignored the notice advising to wear the provided gloves to handle the bulbs and had sore hands, and face, for the next few days.
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Luit, how are the tulips grown, like those seen in Tulipa groep.JPG, where all the leaves are perfectly upright and each facing perfectly the right direction guarding the stems?
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Mark, these were grown by specialists of course. They have much skills, no wonder after many, many years of experience.
There are many important factors to look at when forcing bulbs, like storing the bulbs at the right temps and the moment they are brought into the glasshouse etc. etc.
These pans were all tulips for cutting, (no pot-tulips!)
There was a competition for the best pan. Most of the cultivars were not good enough.
The result here was that T. Red Label and T. Snow Patrol received the highest points. The jury looks how the stems are and of course the combination of leaves and flowers. When a bunch of flowers has to be sold the leaves should not be ahead of the flowers for instance.
I am not in such a jury but I am allowed to listen when they are talking about. Otherwise I would not have been able to answer your question properly.
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Well Luit, you bring us to the close of a grand year of Lisse visitis..... it has been a delight to see so many beautifully presented plants and so many new cultivars and colour combinations over the weeks.
Thank you so much for your efforts to show us these weekly gatherings and for your kind glass of Bacardi to toast the year gone by!
Cheers!
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P.S. Ian says would you like to swap houses and you and Vroni move to live here? He thinks he could be happy in your glass houses!
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Many, many thanks Luit and a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
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Indeed Luit, thank you very much for bringing us to Lisse throughout the year. Of course, human nature being what it is, we look forward to many more visits ;) & wonders 8)
What a pity multiflorus hyacinths are rather hard to find nowadays, here at least.
White hyacinths with green tips are particularly beautiful I think. I wonder if the breeders will be able to develop forms that retain at least some green as the flowers mature.
And those tulips and galanthus :o
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Luit, I'd like to add my sincere thanks for all you do for this forum. The bulbs I bought at the weekend are all doing well, some starting to emerge despite the frozen earth. I look forward to enjoying them once we get rid of this bitter cold weather.... Merry Christmas to you and yours, Christine
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Thanks for all your photos and comments from Lisse in 2010 Luit - it's almost 2011 so A Very Happy New Year full of great expectations! :)
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Thank you all for your support and kind comments. It was a pleasure for me to show the pictures :)
Happy New Year
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Happy New Year, Luit!
I think of these posts as being my Lisse Learning Programme 8)
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I think of these posts as being my Lisse Learning Programme 8)
Welcome in the (Dutch)Master Class :D :-* :-*
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Luit,
So, will we be seeing a Weekly Lisse Flowershow 2011 topic appearing soon? I may not post here often to state my amazement and enjoyment, but I do view regularly. I do tend to put it off until I have time to have a proper look, as I know there will always be a heap of beauties in your topic. ;D
Thanks for all your postings! 8)
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I agree Paul. There are a lot of threads on this forum, and this is one I always look at no matter what. There is such a lot to enjoy here. Thanks so much Luit for your time and efforts, they are much appreciated.
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This thread is formed from the pages of previous years for Luit van Delft's musings from the weekly flower show at Lisse, in the Netherlands, of the KAVB, which translates in English as Royal General Bulbgrowers' Association
When clicking this link: http://www.ishs.org/sci/icralist/49.htm you will come to the ICRA Report Sheet showingthose bulbs for which KAVB is the official registrar.
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Thanks Maggi!
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Edit by Maggi: Happy to help, Luit and thanks for these lovely Dutch Tulips ;) 8)
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At the first KAVB Show of this year as usual not so many entries. But at the moment all color is welcome :)
I selected a few of the better tulips:
Tulipa Krasa
Tulipa Rosy Delight
Tulipa Spryng
Tulipa Violinde
and there was a nice Narcissus:
Narcissus Nylon Group yellow form
Second try ::) ::)
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Interesting naming on that last one. ??? Definitely a petunioides type, not something I would even vaguely have associated with a "Nylon" group? Some beautiful Tulips (and the Narcissus as well for that matter).
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This week we saw amongst others a nice pot of Hyacinthus Anastasia and a few entries with Narcissus:
Hyacinthus Anastasia
Narcissus
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Atlas Gold cl.
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Treble Chance cl.
Narcissus romieuxii Julia Jane
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Some tulips which I selected out of the many entries:
Tulipa Coquette Yellow
Tulipa Dea
Tulipa Tom Pouce
and the choice of pot-tulips developes slowly:
Tulipa Ministar
Tulipa [Ministar] rode mutant
Tulipa Salmon Crown
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Lovely narcissus Luit. Do you know why they are labelled JC805 by any chance? Just curious. I have some in bud at the moment.
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Chris, JCA 805 is just the Archibald collection number which has remained close to the group of bulbs he collected on that occasion, mainly, I suppose, because so many good plants were selected from it, such as 'Julia Jane,' 'Atlas Gold,' 'Treble Chance' and (I think) 'Joy Bishop.' Perhaps others. Mostly collection numbers get abandoned after a time and we go with just the genus and species names but when a collection is outstanding, sometimes the number sticks. Another such, is Clematis orientalis (vernayi now?) L and S 13342 which always is attached to the relevant plant because it is so much superior to other forms of the species.
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This week we saw amongst others a nice pot of Hyacinthus Anastasia and a few entries with Narcissus:
Hyacinthus Anastasia
Narcissus
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Atlas Gold cl.
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Treble Chance cl.
Narcissus romieuxii Julia Jane
I doubt that the last one is really 'Julia'Jane.
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Chris, JCA 805 is just the Archibald collection number which has remained close to the group of bulbs he collected on that occasion, mainly, I suppose, because so many good plants were selected from it, such as 'Julia Jane,' 'Atlas Gold,' 'Treble Chance' and (I think) 'Joy Bishop.' Perhaps others. Mostly collection numbers get abandoned after a time and we go with just the genus and species names but when a collection is outstanding, sometimes the number sticks. Another such, is Clematis orientalis (vernayi now?) L and S 13342 which always is attached to the relevant plant because it is so much superior to other forms of the species.
Thanks for your help Lesley. What you write in a few minutes would cost me half an hour ::) ::)
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Glorious pics as always, Luit. Thanks.
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This week we saw amongst others a nice pot of Hyacinthus Anastasia and a few entries with Narcissus:
Hyacinthus Anastasia
Narcissus
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Atlas Gold cl.
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Treble Chance cl.
Narcissus romieuxii Julia Jane
I doubt that the last one is really 'Julia'Jane.
ex 'Julia Jane' ?
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This week we saw amongst others a nice pot of Hyacinthus Anastasia and a few entries with Narcissus:
Hyacinthus Anastasia
Narcissus
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Atlas Gold cl.
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Treble Chance cl.
Narcissus romieuxii Julia Jane
I doubt that the last one is really 'Julia'Jane.
ex 'Julia Jane' ?
David - Insofar as one can judge from a photo, the plants shown by Luit are very close, if not identical, to those distributed by (& presumably imported by) Miniature Bulbs in the UK. You have these plants & so do I; they are really quite different to 'Julia Jane', a petunioid form. I see that MB have changed their description & currently refer to their plants as: "N.romieuxii JCA805 'Julia Jane' group - A quality selection from JCA 805." These plants are fairly typical of the seedlings that can be obtained from JCA 805 so, other than for sales purposes, I cannot see the point of the reference to 'Julia Jane'.
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Thanks Lesley, I have often wondered. When mine comes into bloom I'll post a picture. It doesn't have a name, just JCA 805...
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Chris - if you are interested, JCA 805 was collected in 1962 in Morocco, Middle Atlas Mountains above Ifrane. Jim Archibald describes the population as very variable in both form & colour & this variation is represented in the range of cultivars which have been selected from seedlings of JCA 805.
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This week we saw amongst others a nice pot of Hyacinthus Anastasia and a few entries with Narcissus:
Hyacinthus Anastasia
Narcissus
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Atlas Gold cl.
Narcissus romieuxii JCA 805 Treble Chance cl.
Narcissus romieuxii Julia Jane
I doubt that the last one is really 'Julia'Jane.
ex 'Julia Jane' ?
David - Insofar as one can judge from a photo, the plants shown by Luit are very close, if not identical, to those distributed by (& presumably imported by) Miniature Bulbs in the UK. You have these plants & so do I; they are really quite different to 'Julia Jane', a petunioid form. I see that MB have changed their description & currently refer to their plants as: "N.romieuxii JCA805 'Julia Jane' group - A quality selection from JCA 805." These plants are fairly typical of the seedlings that can be obtained from JCA 805 so, other than for sales purposes, I cannot see the point of the reference to 'Julia Jane'.
I agree Gerry I think I shall relabel mine just as ex JCA 805
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I've certainly never had a "genuine" 'Julia Jane' though have received orders as such several times. But the seedlings from what I DID receive are remarkably like JJ in many cases. All seem to be good forms of N. romieuxii and well worth growing in the garden, so long as we don't get hung up on giving everything a name.
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Hello and Happy New Year, my first posting of 2011.
We've covered this subject on a previous occasion but am posting the real 'Julia Jane' which hopefully will instantly justify its credentials.
Gerry, i thought that the JCA805 collection was made in 1970, possibly 1971 not 1962 ??? Hmmm, will have to check that out.
Narcissus romieuxii JCA805 'Julia Jane'
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Hi Rob, good to see you finally dug yourself out of all that snow!
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Hello and Happy New Year, my first posting of 2011.
We've covered this subject on a previous occasion but am posting the real 'Julia Jane' which hopefully will instantly justify its credentials.
Gerry, i thought that the JCA805 collection was made in 1970, possibly 1971 not 1962 ??? Hmmm, will have to check that out.
Narcissus romieuxii JCA805 'Julia Jane'
Hello Rob - 1962 according to Jim & Jenny's 2007 seed list.
Incidentally, the 'Julia Jane' I had from you, some of which are in flower now, looks different to your photo (not reflexed). I'll wait until the others are open before coming to a definite conclusion.
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I think the reflexing rim takes some time after opening.
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Well you learn something new everyday, have just spent half an hour looking through old catalogues/notes and it seems the original JCA805 bulbs that my father obtained from Jim Archibald came to us in 1971 but were originally collected in 1963 .... as Gerry stated. I stand corrected.
Gerry, if you have an issue with your 'Julia Jane' please email me.
Gone out now to shovel more snow ......... ;)
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Quite correct Arnold, the reflexing should occur as the flower ages and fades but can also be affected by cultivation ie available light and moisture of soil.
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Hello and Happy New Year, my first posting of 2011.
We've covered this subject on a previous occasion but am posting the real 'Julia Jane' which hopefully will instantly justify its credentials.
Gerry, i thought that the JCA805 collection was made in 1970, possibly 1971 not 1962 ??? Hmmm, will have to check that out.
Narcissus romieuxii JCA805 'Julia Jane'
Hello Rob - 1962 according to Jim & Jenny's 2007 seed list.
Incidentally, the 'Julia Jane' I had from you, some of which are in flower now, looks different to your photo (not reflexed). I'll wait until the others are open before coming to a definite conclusion.
My comment above was not in any way intended as a criticism of Pottertons which in my experience is an excellent & responsible nursery. Others could learn from them. I have emailed Rob about my 'Julia Jane' & I am perfectly happy with his response. Thanks also to Arnold for his comment - I must learn to be patient!
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The process of the rim refexing came to mind after looking at the image I posted. The older flower exhibited much more 'reflexion' than the newly opened one.
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Here my choices from Monday January the 24th:
Hyacinthus some newer seedlings
Acis tingitana
Galanthus Faringdon Double cl.
Galanthus Faringdon Double
Hyacinthus Fresco
Hyacinthus Showmaster
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Tulipa Delos
Tulipa Dimension
Tulipa Marks Design
Tulipa Rostov
Tulipa Verona Sunrise
Tulipa Hennie van der Most
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Good morning!
Hello Luit,
thanks for the pre-spring impressions. Very nice hyacinthus and tulips, especial 'Marks Design' with attractive leaves.
I can't see a difference between 'Dimensions' and 'Hennie van der Most' ???
Some mix up?
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It just occurred to me that I don't know if tulips are scented. Are they, Luit?
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Acis tingitana! Wow, I had no idea it was so fairy-like and gracefull. I always have images of Acis being stumppy dwarf versions of Gravetye Giant. Is seed avaialble anywhere?
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Acis tingitana! Wow, I had no idea it was so fairy-like and gracefull. I always have images of Acis being stumppy dwarf versions of Gravetye Giant. Is seed avaialble anywhere?
Jamie these Acis are all dainty beauties... some mopre than others, and some very rare... but lovely, every one of them...
Acis autumnalis (L.) Herb. 1837
Acis fabrei (Quézel & Girerd) Lledó, A.P.Davis & M.B.Crespo 2004
Acis ionica Bareka, Kamari & Phitos 2006
Acis longifolia J.Gay ex M.Roemer 1847
Acis nicaeensis (Ardoino) Lledó, A.P.Davis & M.B.Crespo 2004
Acis rosea (F.Martin) Sweet1829
Acis tingitana (Baker) Lledó, A.P.Davis & M.B.Crespo 2004
Acis trichophylla Sweet
Acis valentina (Pau) Lledó, A.P.Davis & M.B.Crespo 2004
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I can't see a difference between 'Dimensions' and 'Hennie van der Most' ???
Some mix up?
Armin I agree that at first sight the colors seem the same, but they are different (I admit on the picture they look the same) and have a different description.
More important are mostly the characters of a tulip. Is it good for early forcing or better in the garden etc. etc. The practice will show this on the end and therefore many new good looking tulips will disappear after some years. Only a few will stay.
Dimension was registered in 2007 and H. v.d. Most in 2010, though the latter I have seen already since some years on shows and it is always an eye catcher.
Dimension:
Flower Primary Colour UPOV: dark purple-red RHS046A
Flower Secondary Colour UPOV: yellow RHS 007A
Hennie van der Most:
Flower Primary Colour UPOV: red RHS047A
Flower Secondary Colour UPOV: yellow RHS 006A
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It just occurred to me that I don't know if tulips are scented. Are they, Luit?
Anne, in the Show hall temps are kept only 15 C. so never much scent there.
In my opinion most tulips have a special but very moderate, but not specifically good scent, but maybe some species have maybe more.
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Armin I agree that at first sight the colors seem the same, but they are different (I admit on the picture they look the same) and have a different description.
More important are mostly the characters of a tulip. Is it good for early forcing or better in the garden etc. etc. The practice will show this on the end and therefore many new good looking tulips will disappear after some years. Only a few will stay.
Dimension was registered in 2007 and H. v.d. Most in 2010, though the latter I have seen already since some years on shows and it is always an eye catcher.
Dimension:
Flower Primary Colour UPOV: dark purple-red RHS046A
Flower Secondary Colour UPOV: yellow RHS 007A
Hennie van der Most:
Flower Primary Colour UPOV: red RHS047A
Flower Secondary Colour UPOV: yellow RHS 006A
Luit, Many thanks. This explains it. Probably one have to see them live to see the difference.
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The Show Hall was this Monday full off Narcissus
A few pictures of those which I think are interesting (amongst all others)
The first one comes out yellow and gets almost white when fully open after some days:
Narcissus Kyra Maria 1
Narcissus Kyra Maria 2
Narcissus Pistachio 1
Narcissus Pistachio 2
Narcissus Prof. Einstein
and some smaller ones:
Narcissus Emcys
Narcissus Surfside
Narcissus Kholmes [N. bulboc. v.conspicuus x N. cant.var.foliosus] 1
Narcissus Kholmes [N. bulboc. v.conspicuus x N. cant.var.foliosus] cl.
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There were a lot of tulips as well and a few entries with other bulbs:
Ipheion dialystemon
Tulipa Kay
Tulipa Twinny
Tulipa Krakňw
Tulipa Saami
Tulipa Lornah
Oxalis versicolor
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Luit, great stuff there, nice to see when we have over 2 meters of snow outside.
Narcissus Prof. Einstein is a screamer... wow, what an impact in the garden that one would make... I usually go for the more pastel colors but I love that one!
Great pan of Oxalis versicolor; but you know, it would look even better when the buds close up to reveal the amazing spiraled striping. I;m a big fan of the little yellow Ipheion/Nothoscordum clan... my dialystemon hasn't started flowering yet (warm and well watered on my basement windowsill).
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Jamie, surely you grow Acis (syn Leucoium/Leucojum) autumnalis? It must be very available throughout the UK and Europe?
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Emcys is a very nice daffodil with a very strange name.
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Maybe name related to E=MC squared?
After the Prof. Einstein.
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Emcys is a very nice daffodil with a very strange name.
The name is made from this sentence:
Een Mooie CYclamineus Selectie: EMCYS
It means A Nice CYclamineus Selection
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Lisse seems to have 12 months of Spring per year Luit !!
Thanks for keeping our spirits up !
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Great pan of Oxalis versicolor; but you know, it would look even better when the buds close up to reveal the amazing spiraled striping. I;m a big fan of the little yellow Ipheion/Nothoscordum clan... my dialystemon hasn't started flowering yet (warm and well watered on my basement windowsill).
Mark, I know what you mean. I have some knowledge about growing and showing these plants ;D
Now I keep just a few relicts from my working period ;)
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Lisse seems to have 12 months of Spring per year Luit !!
Thanks for keeping our spirits up !
Will talk to you soon Luc ::) ;D
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Emcys is a very nice daffodil with a very strange name.
The name is made from this sentence:
Een Mooie CYclamineus Selectie: EMCYS
It means A Nice CYclamineus Selection
Marvelous explanation! There is often a clue..... we just needed to be Dutch to find it!!
Thanks, Luit!
I have N. 'Surfside ' from the connoisseur Collection, I think... or do I just remember sorting it into paper bags? ;D
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Emcys is a very nice daffodil with a very strange name.
The name is made from this sentence:
Een Mooie CYclamineus Selectie: EMCYS
It means A Nice CYclamineus Selection
Leuk!
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I have N. 'Surfside ' from the connoisseur Collection, I think... or do I just remember sorting it into paper bags? ;D
Yes Maggi! Don't know if you have it, but Surfside was delivered.
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Jamie, surely you grow Acis (syn Leucoium/Leucojum) autumnalis? It must be very available throughout the UK and Europe?
Sad to admit it, but, no. I've only seen it offered now and then, but would really rather raise it from seed. I have had very poor luck with virused stock of many bulbs. A disadvantage of living in a massive bulb-growing region. Virus is rampant in certain types, despite the best husbandry. It just takes a few rabid aphids to spoil your day.
Seeds are more fun, anyway! ;D
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Mine's in flower now and I always get seed. Between us Fermi and I will supply in our autumn. ;)
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Mine's in flower now and I always get seed. Between us Fermi and I will supply in our autumn. ;)
Hi Lesley,
yes some of our Acis autumnalis are in flower now
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it's just a matter of catching the seed before it drops!
Luit,
It's nice to see Narcissus "Kholmes" over there as it is one of Rod Barwick's "Detective Series" of Hybrid Hoop Petticoat daffs (others include "Orcleuse", "Smarple", "Mitimoto", "Kojak" and "Sporoit") raised in Tasmania.
cheers
fermi
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Thank you for your explanation, Luit. It reminds me of the Galanthus named 'Nothing Special". Except the daffodil is nice.
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Again many narcissi on the benches this week and not only big flowering ones:
Narcissus Gabriel Kleiberg
Narcissus Gabriel Kleiberg cl
Narcissus cordubensis
Narcissus group
Narcissus The Alliance
Narcissus Mite
Narcissus Snook [N. nevadensis x N. cyclamineus]
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some new snowdrops not shown earlier :)
Galanthus gracilis ‘Kennemerend’
Galanthus nivalis Scharlockii x G. plicatus cl
Galanthus nivalis Scharlockii x G. plicatus
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and the last few of other entries this week:
Iris reticulata Spot On (a Mc. Murtie hybrid)
Iris Sheila Ann Germaney
Crocus Miss Vain
Crocus Vanguard
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Luit,
impressive as every week. :P
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Thanks yet again Luit. Who says spring hasn't arrived in the NH?
I like 'Spot On' but LOVE 'Sheila Ann Germaney' perhaps because she does so very well for me. Her colouring is so clean and delicate.
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Luit love those Crocus Vanguard... thanks for giving us something cheery to look at.
Angie :)
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Many thanks Luit, I really like the colouring of 'Spot on', would look good with the snowdrops ;)
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I have a nice pot of Miss Vain in flower, looks just like yours Luit! Really enjoying the crocus just now....
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I have a nice pot of Miss Vain in flower, looks just like yours Luit! Really enjoying the crocus just now....
Is that from the Bulbs donated to the DWE by Luit and Cees Breed from the Connoisseur Collection, Christine?
I noticed Art had some crocus in flower from that... we should have a special thread to show our bulbs from the C. Collection :)
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I liked the cyclamineus group narcissi too.
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"Spot on" is a real stunner Luit !! :o :o
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Though there were more tulips and narcissi in the Show Hall this week I will have no choice but to show some snowdrops as this is the time of year to show them ;D
There were several entries but most of them were just placed close to the windows and very difficult to make pictures against the light.
I show just a few
Galanthus Bertram Anderson
Galanthus plicatus Beth Chatto (This was acquired before 2005 from B. Chatto nursery and might be the true thing?)
Galanthus Beth Chatto cl
Galanthus Imbolc
Galanthus Ivycroft Cottage Corporal (see name query in the Galanthus thread)
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Galanthus Green Brush
Narcissus Little Gem
Narcissus asturiensis x Candle Power
and an enormous plant was shown of:
Gymnospermium albertii
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and an enormous plant was shown of:
Gymnospermium albertii
Wow, it certainly is a whopper.... really good.
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Though there were more tulips and narcissi in the Show Hall this week I will have no choice but to show some snowdrops as this is the time of year to show them ;D
We understand, Luit, it is simply your duty to show them ;D ;)
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and an enormous plant was shown of:
Gymnospermium albertii
Wow, it certainly is a whopper.... really good.
And such a beautiful colour, almost as good as those white things ;)
Luit according to Joe Sharman
"Beth Chatto should have a perfect hour glass inner mark that is never two marks" or, as the monograph puts it:
marking covering apical 7/8 of segment, a basal triangle narrowly joined in middle to an apical V with expanded, rounded arm-ends
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Gymnospermium albertii
Such specimens (G. alberti, G. altaicum) I have from more than 10-15 years old tubers which didn't fit in my largest pots (15x15x20 cm) - so those I'm planting free in raised beds of greenhouse.
Janis
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And such a beautiful colour, almost as good as those white things ;)
Luit according to Joe Sharman
"Beth Chatto should have a perfect hour glass inner mark that is never two marks" or, as the monograph puts it:
marking covering apical 7/8 of segment, a basal triangle narrowly joined in middle to an apical V with expanded, rounded arm-ends
Brian, I was allowed last week to pick one flower to take home for a foto and I took one of the smaller flowers, I did not want to ruin the show pot and so had a young and unripe flower. The grower told me that all flowers were the same on the plant, just the small flower I picked had no chance to develope better.
Here is a flower he brought me Monday. What do you think now?
Galanthus Beth Chatto
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Some entries of this week:
Tulipa
Galanthus Brenda Troyle
Iris Kuh-e-Abr
Narcissus Sherwood Forest
Specialties
Tulipa Dimension
Tulipa Ice Lolly
Tulipa Uppsala
Tulipa West Frisian Beauty
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Rhodohypoxis
These have obviously more possibilities than known by most people.
Here they are shown in excellent selling quality in Mid February.
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Very special this week was a small vase with Amana( Tulipa)
In the Tulip book of Wilford you may read more about this variety:
http://books.google.nl/books?id=bP7p0eZeIeYC&pg=PA173&lpg=PA173&dq=amana+erythronioides&source=
bl&ots=DcvVxJ-F0c&sig=lxFpo_fEdnPps96HdusuyY64TEA&hl=nl&ei=uc5iTau-HouSOs7sjO8N&sa=X&oi=
book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=amana%20erythronioides&f=false (http://books.google.nl/books?id=bP7p0eZeIeYC&pg=PA173&lpg=PA173&dq=amana+erythronioides&source=
bl&ots=DcvVxJ-F0c&sig=lxFpo_fEdnPps96HdusuyY64TEA&hl=nl&ei=uc5iTau-HouSOs7sjO8N&sa=X&oi=
book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=amana%20erythronioides&f=false)
Amana erythronioides
Amana erythronioides cl
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Amana erythronioides
Wow! 8) Must show this to Ian. ;)
Narcissus Sherwood Forest is the right variety to have for the Nottingham Conference, eh?
Tulipa West Frisian Beauty is delightful.
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Brian, I was allowed last week to pick one flower to take home for a foto and I took one of the smaller flowers, I did not want to ruin the show pot and so had a young and unripe flower. The grower told me that all flowers were the same on the plant, just the small flower I picked had no chance to develope better.
Here is a flower he brought me Monday. What do you think now?
It seems to fit the description alright Luit, but I think someone like Matt should say if it is correct or not, I am just an enthusiast ;)
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Its not Beth Chatto but another from the seedlings!
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That doesn't surprise me Gerard, the reason I would not come down on yes or no was that it really depended on what Matt meant in the book by 'a basal triangle narrowly joined in middle to an apical V with expanded, rounded arm-ends'. It shows you have to see the whole plant, and know what you are talking about. Many people put pictures up for identification and I think it is only possible to home in on some alternatives; without seeing it in real life, as the whole plant - that's why I try and refrain from saying "That's ....."
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Rhodohypoxis
These have obviously more possibilities than known by most people.
Here they are shown in excellent selling quality in Mid February.
Luit, since we often wait too long to water our Rhodohypoxis troughs we often do not have them in flower before late may or early June - to see them in flower in February is amazing for us. 8)
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Rhodohypoxis
These have obviously more possibilities than known by most people.
Here they are shown in excellent selling quality in Mid February.
Luit, since we often wait too long to water our Rhodohypoxis troughs we often do not have them in flower before late may or early June - to see them in flower in February is amazing for us. 8)
Maggi - Do you replant your Rhodohypoxis troughs every year or just move the troughs under cover for the winter? We dry them off and stick them in the cold room till late April then plunk them outdoors again. Usually they take a long while to get going as we're quite cool, especially so at night, until mid/late-June.
P.S. I am dreading replanting those troughs as the bulb count per square inch is so high and the bulbs all look like gravel.
johnw
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We tend to let them over winter in the troughs and only repot late,(if at all :-[ ) in April sometime .
This year Ian has replanted some of them already , though they are still dry.
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We tend to let them over winter in the troughs and only repot late,(if at all :-[ ) in April sometime .
This year Ian has replanted some of them already , though they are still dry.
So they stay outdoors all winter long and survive that?
johnw
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We tend to let them over winter in the troughs and only repot late,(if at all :-[ ) in April sometime .
This year Ian has replanted some of them already , though they are still dry.
So they stay outdoors all winter long and survive that?
johnw
Oh NO! That would be cruel.... They are lifted into a glasshouse to overwinter under the bench.
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Luit, since we often wait too long to water our Rhodohypoxis troughs we often do not have them in flower before late may or early June - to see them in flower in February is amazing for us. 8)
Maggi, I understand that you both were surprised to see them flowering now, but when we used to grow them by the 100thousands many years ago the plant was still rather unknown and we were already searching for methods to offer flowering plants earlier in spring to increase the marketing and sales.
The best way might be to store the pots cold for at least 8 or 10 weeks cold in autumn and then place them in the greenhouse at moderate temps. and maybe some extra light to make the days longer. The problem is the cold storage which needs a lot of space….
I don’t know how this grower did it, but Rhodohypoxis seems not difficult to manipulate.
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Its not Beth Chatto but another from the seedlings!
In the Galanthus pages I saw some discussion about Beth Chatto and on page 40, reply 589 there were the following lines:
In her lovely book The Woodland Garden she refers to her snowdrop as a very special snowdrop that occurred in the garden many years ago (the book was published in 2002). She goes on to say that she was “surprised and pleased to see that it seeded true”.
As I am growing just a few Galanthus in our garden I think I am rather neutral in this matter.
So when I read these lines careful then I am inclined to believe that maybe there are a lot of true Galanthus Beth Chatto.
She writes herself “surprised and pleased to see that it seeded true”.
Now I am very curious about what plant was named “Beth Chatto”
Was it just one of those seedlings or was it a vegetative propagated plant of the original find? ??? ???
I read that B.C. Gardens now is trying to find the original plant again which is in my opinion
barely possible, again because possibly a self seeded plant was named.
In this case the best thing will be to name this plant G. Beth Chatto Group.
But of course the specialists will know much better than silly me ::) ::) :-X
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I compared mine that was bought before 2002, the year that the Beth Chatto gardens lost theires, with the ones from the biggest collection in the UK, and they were the same. The owner is on this forum too!
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P.S. I am dreading replanting those troughs as the bulb count per square inch is so high and the bulbs all look like gravel.
johnw
Don't even think of dividing into bulbs. Just take (break off) small clumps about an inch in diameter and replant those. We are lucky in that they can be left in the gound all year round. :)
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Usually no names of exhibitors here, but this week there was an interesting Galanthus entry
by our Forumist Gerard Oud and he got a well deserved Gold Medal.
Just a few flowers pictured:
Galanthus hybr. Little Ben
Galanthus plic. Nigel Chadwick dubb.
Galanthus Sel. out of Comet (With green leaves)
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A picture of a group of some interesting Ornithogalum hybrids with new colors:
groep
Scilla peruviana
Ornithogalum dubium
Ornithogalum Oranjezicht
Ornithogalum Sunny Day
Ornithogalum wit
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Here an overview of the hall and several other entries:
overzicht
Narcissus Toto
Galanthus Hill Poë
Hyacinths
Pot tulips
Pot tulip
Scilla mischtschenkoana Zwanenburg
Crocus chrys. Zenith
Iris histrioides var. sophenensis
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Wow lots of great stuff exhibited this week.
Congratulations to Gerard, Galanthus Sel. out of Comet (With green leaves) will be popular with all the Galanthophiles.
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this week there was an interesting Galanthus entry
by our Forumist Gerard Oud and he got a well deserved Gold Medal.
Well done, Gerard!
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Those two really dark hyacinths on the right look interesting.
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When we entered the Show Hall this Monday there was an overwhelming scent of hyacinths.
Of course there were other entries as well.
Crocus angustifolius
Crocus Goldene Sonne
Corydalis transsylvanica Rosea
Corydalis Beth Evans
Iris histrio subsp. aintabensis
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Some Mc Murtrie Iris reticulata hybrids:
and some interesting sports of
Iris Kath. Hodgkin sport
Iris Sheila Ann Germaney sport
Tulipa hissarica
and one pan which did not make it to the show because I could not be there in time :(
Scilla hohenackeri
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One exhibitor showed us three different groups of interesting hyacinths.
Two groups came originally from the Hortus Bulborum in 2004 and one group showed old varieties
which are no more in trade
Hyacinthus old Vars. [Not in the trade anymore)
The next group shows many (older) varieties which are still in the trade;
Hyacinthus [still in trade] 1
Hyacinthus [still in trade] 2
Hyacinthus [still in trade] 3
Hyacinthus double [still in trade] 4
With all these older hyacinths the exhibitor started to make hybrids since 2004 and showed
some of his first seedlings:
Hyacinthus new seedl.
Hyacinthus new seedl. cl
Other entries:
Hyacinthus 2
Hyacinthus seedl
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Really love those cream and white sports. I wish mine would do that. ::)
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Luit
Always something to lust after - the sports are my favourite this week.
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I like that last hyacinth too.
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Some pictures from the Show again (Thanks to my private driver :D)
Tulips
Anemone nemorosa Virescens
Cyclamen persicum N. Israel-Golan form
Libertia ? formosa
Hippeastrum
Hippeastrum Royal Velvet
Hippeastrum Souvenir A very short good flowering hybrid.
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And a few Narcissus:
Narcissus Warbler
Narcissus pinetorum
Narcissus Innisidgen
Narcissus Mite
Narcissus Avalon
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Super narcissus... but how "Hollywood" are those wonderful Hippeastrum? 8) 8)
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Super narcissus... but how "Hollywood" are those wonderful Hippeastrum? 8) 8)
:) :)
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This Monday we had such nice weather, so I was able to go to the Show on bicycle.
The hall was mostly filled with Narcissus and there were many entries.
Some overviews first:
Narcissus
Historic Narcissus 1
Historic Narcissus 2
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Narcissus Carnyorth
Narcissus Carnyorth cl.
Narcissus Apple Honey
Narcissus Delabode Delabole
Narcissus Pick Up
Narcissus Loch Lundie
Narcissus Pink Satin
Narcissus Martinsville
Narcissus Park Springs
Narcissus South Street
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There were many other entries as well.
Most impressive was a group of new Fritillaria Hybrids. (F. imperialis, F. raddeana and F. inodora are involved here)
I showed here some last year too, but they are still improving.
Something to look out for in the future.
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last batch
Anemone nemorosa
Anemone nemorosa Bracteata Pleniflora
Anemone nemorosa Bracteata Pleniflora cl.
Anemone nemorosa Tenneys Blush
Fritillaria imperialis Argenteovariegata
Fritillaria imperialis Aureomarginata
Bongardia chrysogonum
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What constitutes "Historic" Narcissus Luit? Are they simply older varieties?
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Impressive as usual Luit, as must be your cycling skills! ;D
Wonder if your "Delabode" should be "Delabole"? Delabole is a small place in Cornwall, and the variety "Dealabole" is listed on Daffseek but with no pic ???
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Luit,
love the new Frits. I hope they will be available soon.
That Narcissus 'Martinsville' looks great. Never seen it before.
As always, thanks very much for sharing these.
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What constitutes "Historic" Narcissus Luit? Are they simply older varieties?
Lesley, they are at least OLD ones, collected from gardens and from the countryside around places where flower bulbs have been grown commercially since ages.
So most are at least 80 and more years old.
Instead of historical Narcissus I could have called them heritage Narcissus.
for "Historic" you should read "Historical" (due to the lack of enough knowledge in another language) ::) ::) :-[
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Impressive as usual Luit, as must be your cycling skills! ;D
Wonder if your "Delabode" should be "Delabole"? Delabole is a small place in Cornwall, and the variety "Dealabole" is listed on Daffseek but with no pic ???
Hope to find the answer David and let you know.
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Luit,
That Narcissus 'Martinsville' looks great. Never seen it before.
Jamie, I could show you more than 2500 ones you've never seen before, in 5 minutes walking distance from my place.
Just tell me when it suites you, only 3 hours from Köln ;D ;D :D
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Impressive as usual Luit, as must be your cycling skills! ;D
Wonder if your "Delabode" should be "Delabole"? Delabole is a small place in Cornwall, and the variety "Dealabole" is listed on Daffseek but with no pic ???
Hope to find the answer David and let you know.
Typo on my part Luit-the variety listed on Daffseek is "Delabole" and not as I typed "Dealabole"
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Thanks Luit, I thought it would be something like that. I often here see "old" plants on farms where there was a homestead 100 years ago but long gone now (my best colchicums came from such a place). There may be colchicums, muscaris, narcissus or violets and others and there are many fine old roses to be found and cuttings taken, from plants in old orchards now abandoned, or in some cases, not far from me, where much of the orchard land was flooded to make the Clutha high dam some years ago. The roses were planted back in the days when they weren't "old" at all. and many long lost treasures can be found with patience and diligence.
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Wonder if your "Delabode" should be "Delabole"?
Typical an "old man's" typo David ;D ;D Did change the text!
Delabole is a small place in Cornwall,
Obviously a Scamp cultivar then? :)
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Wonder if your "Delabode" should be "Delabole"?
Typical an "old man's" typo David ;D ;D Did change the text!
Delabole is a small place in Cornwall,
Obviously a Scamp cultivar then? :)
I would have thought so Luit, but, when I look at Daffseek I see the hybridiser was Irish (Helen K Richardson) and it was registered 1986. Seed parent was 'Teheran' and pollen parent 'Ceylon'. This makes me wonder?
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This Monday the weather was very nice again, so I could take my bicycle again to
visit the Show and show you some pictures.
In other years I already showed here many new Muscari. This week we saw many again but I just picked out some pots with this new, huge one:
Muscari Mountain Lady
and a nice pot of Ipheion Alberto Castillo
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There were also some nice Narcissus arrangements to see
Narcissus Arctic Gem
Narcissus arr. 1
Narcissus arr. 2
Narcissus Severn Valley
Narcissus Spindletop
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and some more narcissi:
Narcissus Citronita
Narcissus Tater-Du
Narcissus Golden Echo
Narcissus Citronella
Narcissus nn
Narcissus Feoc
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Some very nice narcissi - someone has put a lot of effort into displaying them very prettily.
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Some very nice narcissi - someone has put a lot of effort into displaying them very prettily.
Indeed Anne, the picking of the flowers and putting the names to them takes very much time.
And then in the morning placing on the tables...... ::) ::)
Here an overview of the 2nd. May Show and some flowers I choose:
Narcissus 1
Narcissus Dallas
Narcissus Kebaya
Narcissus Lamlash
Narcissus Naivasha
Narcissus Odist
Narcissus Odist cl
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There were other entries of course:
Gladiolus communis ssp. byzantinus
Allium Early Emperor
Hermodactylus tuberosus
Oxalis rubra Pink Diamond 1
And a few pics of nice Muscari:
Muscari Marleen
Muscari Marleen cl
Muscari Maxabel
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Finishing now with some more narcissi and I think the last ones of this season:
Narcissus 2
Narcissus Oryx
Narcissus Oxford
Narcissus Pixie's Sister
Narcissus recurvus
Narcissus Santa Claus
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Super, as usual, Luit. I like the look of Muscari Maxabel - is it available yet?
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Narcissus Dallas and Lamlash catch my eye,as does the double Santa Claus... trying so hard to be a double Trillium or a Gardenia!
The light playing on the Gladiolus is stunning.
What a treat to share these shows, Luit..... we are ever grateful to you..... even if it can make us a little envious!!
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Super, as usual, Luit. I like the look of Muscari Maxabel - is it available yet?
Brian, they were shown by a Forum member, maybe he knows more about ? :)
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The light playing on the Gladiolus is stunning.
I noticed them right away when I entered the hall, just because of the combination of flowers and the light Maggi, but had to pass the many other flowers before I got to them to make a picture :D :D
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Magnificent tour once again, Luit ... I'm not really a bulb person but could be swayed!!! :D
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The Muscari are both very fine, and I like ALL the Narcissus vars. I wonder why that surprises me? ;D
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Luit, it is wonderful to return to your thread on Lisse Flower Show and see so many wonderful bulbs in flower rejoicing in Spring. Like Anne I admire the presentation of the flowers and the immense care taken to show perfection in each and every one. Thank you for all the time taken to show us these delights :D
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Thanks all! You make me blush :-\
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Thanks all! You make me blush :-\
That will be the pink form then? :)
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Wonderful as usual Luit. Has M. 'Maxabel' gone to the trade yet?
johnw
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John, have a look at reply 1054 .
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Hello Brian and John, I showed Muscari Maxabel and I can tell that it will be available about two years
We are the only grower and I got it from a lady Joy Bishop and she named it after her grandchildren,
Maxim and anabel (I hope I wrote the names right)
Wim
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Thanks for letting us know Wim, won't be long to wait ;D
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Thanks for letting us know Wim, won't be long to wait ;D
Yes, we can be patient! ;D
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Last Monday we were surprised by a nice entry of Allium.
Amongst them were some interesting new forms, where A. nevskianum was involved.
Allium group
Allium cupuliferum cl.
Allium komarowii
Allium loratum
Allium nev. 06-06
Allium nev. 06-9
Allium nev. 06-11
Allium nev. 06-11 cl.
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And a few other entries:
Rhodohypoxis group
Polygonatum Grace Barker
Hyacinthoides hispanica Meike
A nice pink form, not yet registered.
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Allium loratum is a wonderful soft colour.
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I could easily become besotted with Alliums, musy talk harshly with myself. Thanks for the pics Luit.
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Just a few pictures this week.
Interesting was to see a cross of Allium tripedale (Nectaroscordum trip.) with Allium siculum ssp. bulgaricum (Nectaroscordum meliophyllum).
The new cross is in growth like A. tripedale, but it seems to propagate much better.
These plants were better known over the years als Nectaroscordum, but before that time they were known as Allium.
So know we have to call them Allium again.
I show pictures of the parents first :
Allium tripedale
Allium siculum ssp. bulgaricum cl.
Allium siculum ssp. bulgaricum x tripedale
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and we saw a small vase with some very nice colored and elegant flowers of a bulb, which was acquired and send as Hyacinthus tabrizianus.
After some studies in the Flora of Iran was found out that it probably is a Bellevalia.
Bellevalia tabriziana
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Very beautiful Luit.
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Just a few pictures this week.
Interesting was to see a cross of Allium tripedale (Nectaroscordum trip.) with Allium siculum ssp. bulgaricum (Nectaroscordum meliophyllum).
The new cross is in growth like A. tripedale, but it seems to propagate much better.
These plants were better known over the years als Nectaroscordum, but before that time they were known as Allium.
So know we have to call them Allium again.
I show pictures of the parents first :
Allium tripedale
Allium siculum ssp. bulgaricum cl.
Allium siculum ssp. bulgaricum x tripedale
Just a few... but what pictures! Super, Luit. The Allium close-ups are so pretty and the Bellevalia is utterly charming.
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Many thanks once again Luit.
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I can see the Allium siculum ssp. bulgaricum x tripedale becoming very popular Luit, and what a pretty Bellevalia that is. Thanks for showing us.
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Bellevalia tabriziana
Luit, what a gorgeous photo you took of these lovely flowers in a vase.
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Yes, the Bellevalia was really a pleasure for the eyes, despite being so small :)
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This week the Allium growers were invited to show their products for a competitive Show.
There were many entries and I made a lot of pictures of many flowers, but not of the "big balls" :) of which there were many entries as well:
Allium
Allium sarawschanicum x christophii
Allium trautvetterianum x christophii
Allium alexejanum
Allium alexejanum x stipitatum
Allium amphibolum
Allium atropurpureum x christophii
Allium auctum
Allium backhousianum
Allium caspium
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Allium
Allium Cameleon
Allium carolinianum
Allium chloranthum
Allium christophii
Allium convallarioides Pink
Allium decipiens
Allium karataviense Kara-Tau
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Allium
Allium dolychostylum
Allium hyalinum
Allium karataviense Red Globe
Allium litvinowii
Allium loratum pink
Allium loratum
Allium nevskianum
Allium nevskianum seedl.
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Allium
Allium oreophyllum Agalik's Giant
Allium oreophyllum Kugard
Allium oreophyllum Samur
Allium protensum
Allium rosenbachianum Kwakense
Allium rosenbachianum sel.
Allium roseum
Allium rotundum ssp. jajlae
Allium Silver Spring
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and there were not only Allium. A few more pics:
Hymenocallis longipetala
Triteleia ixioides Starlight
and I think we saw the last tulip of this spring ??? :D
Tulipa double mutant of T. Blue Parrot (a so-called cauliflower tulip)
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Dear me, that poor parrot needs to be put out of its misery! :-X
I think it must be a "Norwegian Blue" ? ::) ;D
It is certainly prime Allium time... what a fantastic selection. I really like the reds....superb flowers!
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Thanks Luit - what a great show!!!
I MUST have more Allium for my garden!
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I think it must be a "Norwegian Blue" ? ::) ;D
Unfortunately not - it looks very much alive.
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I quite like it, it's almost as pretty as 'Ice Cream' ;D
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Luit, great to see such a fantastic range of Alliums, it opens the doors to the possibilities within this large genus. I'm just catching up with this thread, but I have a few questions and comments.
Refer to the series of allium photos one page back:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.msg201265#msg201265
Are the ones listed as Allium nev. 06-06, Allium nev. 06-9, Allium nev. 06-11, and Allium nev. 06-11 cl., are all of these Allium nevskianum? What do the numbers indicate?
The one shown as "Allium loratum" is misidentified. Plants erroneously identified under this name are long established in cultivation, the true identity is typically A. decipiens (in one of its forms) or something else. Allium loratum is a dwarf alpine species from Western Himalaya and Tibet, growing just 3-6" tall, and with white flowers, described by Baker in 1874.
From this series, you showed some section Melanocrommyum hybrids... fantastic!
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.msg202917#msg202917
These hybrids are quite impressive, I well imagine some of these will become available in the years to come, Allium alexejanum x stipitatum is a particularly stunning plant. The cross Allium atropurpureum x christophii is fascinating to see, combining the dark color with enormous heads. Allium backhousianum I've grown, most distinctive attraction in the garden, sadly mine passed away after a few years of bloom. I have always wanted Allium caspium, you show a good deep color form, as sometimes it can be whitish.
Regarding Allium "auctum", the species name is an invalid one, which depending on the original author citation, refer instead to A. cyrillii, decipiens, or a pink-flowered form of A. nigrum. I've grown plants under the "auctum" name twice, one plant ended up being A. nigrum in a nice pink form (looks like your plant) and the other time it ended up being A. cyrillii (which I was pleased with, because A. cyrillii in horticulture is usually replaced by Allium senescens).
On Allium 'Cameleon', I have some plants in flower from bulbs received from Wim de Goede, and I have made a determination that most likely the underlying species is Allium longanum, a Mediterranean species found in North Africa from Libya to Egypt and in Cyprus and the Cyclades; I posted some pics and discussion in the following link. As always with Allium identification, coupled with not knowing what the plant's native derivation, it is possible to narrow down the field to a few possibilities, A. trifoliatum being the second possibility, and A. longanum my first best guess.
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5164.msg202959#msg202959
Allium chloranthum and the pinksih form of A. convallarioides are both very nice, I've grown both and there are welcome treasures for the rock garden.
Difficult to comment on your A. decipiens, would need to see foliage and possibly the bulbs as well, it looks somewhat different that what I've seen under this name. After discussions with leading Allium taxonomist Dr. Reinhard Fritsch, who confirmed my plants as Allium decipiens Fisch. subsp. quercetorum Seregin 2007, I understand the plant is variable, but my opinion is that your plant might actually be a different species.
The photo showing Allium caroliniaum is misidentified, A. carolinianum has narrow cupped flowers that barely open (almost "pinched") with the long protruding stamens just squeezing by the closed florets, thus having a very different look. Without seeing the foliage and bulbs I can't say for sure what it is, but definitely not A. carolinianum.
From you most recent batch:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.msg202919#msg202919
Allium dolichostylum (note spelling), looks very interesting. Can't vouch for identity, I'd need to see more of the plant, but a most interesting look to the flowers, and pretty color combination too. Fine bouquets of Allium hyalinum and A. litvinowii.
Same comment om both images of Allium "loratum", the always-misidentified dwarf alpine species misidentified with tall Melanocrommyum types; the first one looks again like A. decipiens, the deeper purplish one looks like a Melannocromyum hybrid of some sort. Allium nevskianum and the seedling color forms are FANTASTIC.
The last batch, with 3 forms of A. oreophilum (note spelling), are gorgeous... such intense color. I grow the cultivar 'Torch', just coming into bloom now, another hot color form.
Allium protensum is one that I flowered once but then sadly lost, an incredible giant flower in brown and beige tones, weird and wonderful.
Glad you showed Allium rosenbachianum Regel subsp. kwakense R.M.Fritsch, a rarely seen and recently described species (1993). Just last year (2010), Dr. Reinhard Fritsch, who first named the subspecies, elevated it to species level as A. kwakense.
Allium 'Silver Spring' represents the magnificent forms of Allium nigrum as it occurs in Israel and Syria. It is Dr. Fritsch's opinion that the Allium nigrum/orientale complex is in need of further study and delineation... the middle eastern forms of A. nigrum, with the intense black-red center, glossy ovaries and tepals, are so distinct, and such an distinct development in the "species", I could well imagine that these forms will be separated off one day. Needless to say, I burn with yearnings for 'Silver Spring'.
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Mark, thank you very much for your input.
As you know I just make reports of the Weekly Shows and when some names are not o.k., this is just because I make pictures of plants/flowers and of the names put to them by the exhibitors. These will be corrected for the exhibitors after judging, but then I will be at home already.
And because I know not enough about Allium I send your comment to the exhibitor who send most entries, Wietse Mellema. He told me that he once already had contact with you, but somehow this contact was not continued. He would very much like to have contact with you again. I will send you his Mail address in a PM later.
He could answer many of your questions, but did this in Dutch and asked me to translate for him and contribute to the Forum. I hope that I will find some time soon to do so.
For now to your first question:
Are the ones listed as Allium nev. 06-06, Allium nev. 06-9, Allium nev. 06-11, and Allium nev. 06-11 cl., are all of these Allium nevskianum? What do the numbers indicate?
The numbers NEV 06-06, 06-9, 06-11 / 06-11 cl are all seedling from a cross of Allium nevskianum as mother and Allium sarawschanicum as the father.
Later more.
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Thankfully, I never really got around to calling Alliums as Nectaroscordum, even A. bulgaricum or siculum, so I can happily go along as before. I find many such plants revert to "old" names, if one waits long enough. ;D
Believe it or not, I do, actually like the mutant 'Blue Parrot,' especially in a tight bunch like that. Maybe not in the garden. My mother had the old single version along with some others.
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Mark, thank you very much for your input.
And because I know not enough about Allium I send your comment to the exhibitor who send most entries, Wietse Mellema. He told me that he once already had contact with you, but somehow this contact was not continued. He would very much like to have contact with you again. I will send you his Mail address in a PM later.
Later more.
Thanks Luit. I don't recall anyone by the name of Wietse Mellema contacting me, but then again, I get so much email maybe the correspondence got lost in my overflowing inbox. :-[
The seedling crosses of Allium nevskianum and Allium sarawschanicum are very exciting.
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Thankfully, I never really got around to calling Alliums as Nectaroscordum, even A. bulgaricum or siculum, so I can happily go along as before. I find many such plants revert to "old" names, if one waits long enough. ;D
I still consider siculum and bulgaricum as Nectaroscordum; I'm ahead of my time as I fully believe they'll be spun off once again as the separate genus Nectaroscordum, where each tepal has 3-7 veins, instead of 1 vein in Allium.
Believe it or not, I do, actually like the mutant 'Blue Parrot,' especially in a tight bunch like that. Maybe not in the garden.
Just when you think you know someone, they surprise you ;D
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Thankfully, I never really got around to calling Alliums as Nectaroscordum, even A. bulgaricum or siculum, so I can happily go along as before. I find many such plants revert to "old" names, if one waits long enough. ;D
I still consider siculum and bulgaricum as Nectaroscordum; I'm ahead of my time as I fully believe they'll be spun off once again as the separate genus Nectaroscordum, where each tepal has 3-7 veins, instead of 1 vein in Allium.
I know nothing about Allium nor, though I grow it, about Nectaroscordum. Do taxonomists really believe that the number of veins in the tepals is a sufficient ground for distinguishing two genera? Surely there must be other characters? Even in Narcissus, a chaotic genus, a difference in the number of veins only serves to distinguish varieties (of N. bulbocodium subsp. praecox).
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The one shown as "Allium loratum" is misidentified. Plants erroneously identified under this name are long established in cultivation, the true identity is typically A. decipiens (in one of its forms) or something else. Allium loratum is a dwarf alpine species from Western Himalaya and Tibet, growing just 3-6" tall, and with white flowers, described by Baker in 1874.
Mark, here is the next (translated) answer to your comments:
We bought 1 bulb of Allium loratum for US $ 20.- from Janis Ruksans in 2003.
What we have grown from this bulb is about 60 cms high and flowers more than 6 weeks.
There were more entries with this Allium under the same name and we have it under this name because it is supposed to come from a knowledgeable person….. ::)
Allium decipiens is totally different, just the flower color is like that a bit.
As far as we know is Allium loratum rather close to Allium giganteum what is feasible to us as having the same density in the flower heads.
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The one shown as "Allium loratum" is misidentified. Plants erroneously identified under this name are long established in cultivation, the true identity is typically A. decipiens (in one of its forms) or something else. Allium loratum is a dwarf alpine species from Western Himalaya and Tibet, growing just 3-6" tall, and with white flowers, described by Baker in 1874.
Mark, here is the next (translated) answer to your comments:
We bought 1 bulb of Allium loratum for US $ 20.- from Janis Ruksans in 2003.
What we have grown from this bulb is about 60 cms high and flowers more than 6 weeks.
There were more entries with this Allium under the same name and we have it under this name because it is supposed to come from a knowledgeable person….. ::)
Allium decipiens is totally different, just the flower color is like that a bit.
As far as we know is Allium loratum rather close to Allium giganteum what is feasible to us as having the same density in the flower heads.
Thanks for the translated comments. Regarding Allium loratum, the reality is, the true species is completely unlike A. giganteum. As I stated, the original description is that A. loratum is a dwarf species from Tibet, 10,000-14,000 feet, with stems that only reach 3-6" (7.5-15 cm) high and with WHITE flowers with light brown midveins. This dwarf alpine species is published in The Journal of Botany, British and Foreign, article entitled "On the Alliums of India, China, and Japan", by J.G. Baker, Vol.III page 290, published 1874. The description of Allium loratum also appears in The Flora of British India by Sir J.D. Hooker, Vol. VI. Orchideae to Cyperaceae, published in 1894. I'm happy to scan and post the original latin description and the later english description for everyone to see first hand.
What has happened is that somewhere along the way, many decades ago, a misidentified plant started going around erroneously as A. loratum, with the mistake repeated for so many decades, that now the mistake is totally entrenched in horticulture... no one has bothered to check plants under this name with the original description, thus a universal misnomer is born. It is not relevant that the plant was obtained from a knowledgeable grower, or that the plant might come from a respected horticultural institution, according to Dr. Reinhard Fritsch, nearly half of Allium specimens cultivated in many botanical institutions are misidentified. Everywhere I have looked, where so-called A. loratum is being sold, even by trusted nurseries, the plant is most definitely misidentified. I suspect some people will choose to ignore the enlightenment, although I hope that nurseries will instead take it upon themselves to compare their plants to the original published descriptions of the species to realize the mistake.
Allium loratum of horticulture is invariably misidentified, and has been for so long, everyone just figures what they're seeing under this name must be right. I've grown plants under this name, which turned out instead to be forms of A. decipiens and also A. hymenorrhizum; probably other species are also masquerading as A. "loratum".
There is past precedent for this long-term universal misidentification. For many decades what was sold as Allium aflatunense in the Dutch bulb trade was finally acknowledged to be incorrectly identified and not the true A. aflatunense. In this case the name Allium hollandicum was ultimately devised to help clear the muddle, the newer name applied to the mistaken "aflatunense".
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Regarding Allium "auctum", the species name is an invalid one, which depending on the original author citation, refer instead to A. cyrillii, decipiens, or a pink-flowered form of A. nigrum. I've grown plants under the "auctum" name twice, one plant ended up being A. nigrum in a nice pink form (looks like your plant) and the other time it ended up being A. cyrillii (which I was pleased with, because A. cyrillii in horticulture is usually replaced by Allium senescens).
Thanks Mark for these interesting comments about A. loratum, which I will pass to the KAVB nomenclature Committee for further discussions.
The so called repeating mistakes sound rather familiar to me and I think that there are for sure more Allium names with the same problem.
I will put a picture of another Allium which seems to suffer under the same problem in the Allium thread.
This dwarf alpine species is published in The Journal of Botany, British and Foreign, article entitled "On the Alliums of India, China, and Japan", by J.G. Baker, Vol.III page 290, published 1874. The description of Allium loratum also appears in The Flora of British India by Sir J.D. Hooker, Vol. VI. Orchideae to Cyperaceae, published in 1894. I'm happy to scan and post the original latin description and the later english description for everyone to see first hand.
Interesting to read in the Flora of India that Baker says about A. loratum:
Judging for the very imperfect specimens, closely resembles Allium narcissifolium, Linn…
Now to the next one, Allium “auctum”:
Wietse writes: Allium auctum was found by us on Crete. We always called it a pink form of Allium nigrum, but were told that it might be Allium auctum and since we put that name to it.
We do have Allium cyrillii as well and in my eyes best compared with a longer/bigger form of Allium senescens, (of which we have about 20 different types).
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Interesting to read in the Flora of India that Baker says about A. loratum:
Judging for the very imperfect specimens, closely resembles Allium narcissifolium, Linn…
Actually, it is Sir J.D. Hooker that adds English commentary to the Allium loratum entry in Flora of India in 1894, not Baker; but it must be remembered that Baker's original latin publication of the species 20 years earlier describes a dwarf alpine species with white flowers, and in Baker's 1874 publication where a number of new species are described, Allium taxonomy is in its infancy. The analogy drawn by Hooker 20 years later to A. narcissiflorum is based upon the days when relatively little was know about Allium taxonomy, as the two species are completely unrelated. In the same Hooker description, he mentions that A. loratum is also near A. atropurpureum except much shorter and with paler flowers... certainly naive comparisons by today's standards... but then again, Hooker largely replicates the original Allium loratum description by Baker of a dwarf alpine species with white flowers. The original Baker description compares Allium loratum to Allium akaka (syn. A. latifolium) and A. colchicifolium, again somewhat naive in terms of today's taxonomy, but actually somewhat closer in comparing dwarf Allium species having wider (rather than thin thready) leaves.
Now to the next one, Allium “auctum”:
Wietse writes: Allium auctum was found by us on Crete. We always called it a pink form of Allium nigrum, but were told that it might be Allium auctum and since we put that name to it.
We do have Allium cyrillii as well and in my eyes best compared with a longer/bigger form of Allium senescens, (of which we have about 20 different types).
According to The Plant list, Allium auctum Omelczuk is a synonym of Allium cyrilli Ten. Flora Europaea places A. auctum Omelczuk as "from Krym, with pinkish-violet perianth, is doubtfully distinct from [Allium nigrum]". Now consider, that Allium nigrum, particularly in the pink forms, comes close to Allium cyrillii. The name Allium "auctum" is NOT an accepted name, and is either a synonym for A. cyrillii (true) or A. nigrum.
Plants labeled as A. cyrillii in cultivation are 99% or 100% replaced by Allium senescens. This fact makes perfect sense when I read the statement "We do have Allium cyrillii as well and in my eyes best compared with a longer/bigger form of Allium senescens". Allium cyrillii is a bulbous species of section Melanocrommyum, closely allied to A. nigrum... one of the few European Melanocrommyum Allium species, whereas Allium senescens is a rhizomatous species that is completely unlike Allium cyrillii. By the way, if one grows about 100 Allium "species" from the seed exchanges, 30 will end up being Allium senescens, 20 will be either A. cernuum, cyathophorum var. farreri, or schoenoprasum, another 20 will be misidentified as some other species, and only the remaining 30 percent will be true to name. Back to A. cyrillii, there are some good photos of this excellent and distinct species on the web from one good source, as well as my own photos that compare well, I'm happy to provide these links. Most of what one finds online parrots the same misidentifation, showing Allium senescens forms as this species ::) Pink forms of Allium nigrum are exactly that, pink forms of Allium nigrum! The name A. "auctum" is invalid, and has always been regarded as such.
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Posted by: TheOnionMan
Allium dolichostylum (note spelling), looks very interesting. Can't vouch for identity, I'd need to see more of the plant, but a most interesting look to the flowers, and pretty color combination too. Fine bouquets of Allium hyalinum and A. litvinowii.
I post a picture of allium dolichostylum flower and one of the plant / leaf
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I post a picture of allium dolichostylum flower and one of the plant / leaf
Wietse, that's a fine looking allium, the blended two-tone red to white flowers are most attractive. Does this species set seed for you? What is the source of your plants?
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Wietse, that's a fine looking allium, the blended two-tone red to white flowers are most attractive. Does this species set seed for you? What is the source of your plants?
Ii is not a easy allium, it's making seed, but only a few germinate.
allium dolychostilum "bulbs" are a little like allium plummerae but then smaller. When I leave them in the ground al year the get lost bit by bit, so I harvest them in the summer and store them hot and dry until planting again in oktober, That way the survive but don't make many new "bulbs". :(
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What is the source of your plants?
sorry, I forgot. I bought this allium from Janis Ruksans in 2005 (see his catalog)
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The photo showing Allium caroliniaum is misidentified, A. carolinianum has narrow cupped flowers that barely open (almost "pinched") with the long protruding stamens just squeezing by the closed florets, thus having a very different look. Without seeing the foliage and bulbs I can't say for sure what it is, but definitely not A. carolinianum.
Wietse’s answer at Allium carolinianum:
Allium carolinianum is offered in the trade by several companies, but I was told several times that it probably is not A. carolinianum. Until I don’t know what it is I keep this name for my plants.
An Allium which flowers resemble very much my plants is Allium stellatum.
The difference between the two Allium is the color of the bulbs. Our A. carolinianum has white bulbs and A. stellatum (origin J. Ruksans) has pinkish/red bulbs.
Actually, it is Sir J.D. Hooker that adds English commentary to the Allium loratum entry in Flora of India in 1894, not Baker;
Yes, I understand but....
I think it is o.k. showing here the scans from The Journal of Botany, British and Foreign, article entitled "On the Alliums of India, China, and Japan", by J.G. Baker, Vol.III page 290, published 1874
and of The Flora of British India by Sir J.D. Hooker, Vol. VI. Orchideae to Cyperaceae, published in 1894
(where you may see what I did read and wrote in my comment)
Nothing wrong with my eyes :D ::)
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Here are at last some pictures of this week.
Making pictures at the Show is no problem. But for naming and resizing I need lots of time which I hardly had these days
I hope you'll enjoy them though.
Paeonia Cora Stubbs
Paeonia Coral Sunset
Paeonia Mandaleen
Paeonia Vivid Rose
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Lilium martagon hybr. Claude Stride
Allium Eros
Muscari massayanum
Oxalis lasiandra
Ixia Jesse
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and some of the special entries for the Iris competition.
The variation and colors are still improving.
Iris hollandica
Iris holl. Autumn Princess cl
Iris holl. Autumn Princess
Iris holl. Cappuchino
Iris holl. Cream Beauty
Iris holl. Golden Eagle
Iris holl. Pink Panther
Iris holl. Silvery Beauty
Iris holl. Sky Beauty
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Thanks Luit, once more.
It is interesting to see the Mexican Oxalis lasiandra. Sadly, all the stuff in cultivation seems to be virused.
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As usual the selection is both diverse and exciting, Luit.
The red Ixia is elegant and the Muscari rather strange... I like them both. And as for that P. 'Vivid Rose..... just the prettiest colour! 8)
The Iris fans will be lusting after the ose colours, too. They just don't like my garden, though they grow in other s around here. ???
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The coral coloured paeony is a beautiful colour - I can just imagine it with nepeta in the garden.
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Just when you think you know someone, they surprise you ;D
I try not to disappoint. :)
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This week I suddenly have been locked out of the forum for several days and did not have
any access to the SRGC Web Site.
I planned to send in some pictures of the Show on Thursday but that was not possible.
Now at last I found sometime to do so and hope you'll enjoy them though.
There was a collection of some older and some very new cultivars of Triteleia:
Triteleia Allure
Triteleia Rudy
Triteleia Corinna
Triteleia hyacinthina
Triteleia Ocean Queen
Triteleia Pink Heaven
Triteleia Chrystal Pink
Triteleia Power Point
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Interesting to see was a plant of Albuca spiralis shown by a member who just acquired this and
brought to the show for particular interest:
Albuca spiralis
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and some other varied entries:
Allium acuminatum
Allium Twinkling Star
Amorphophallus bulbifer
Ixia Blue Bird
Ornithogalum sochii
Astilbe
Dichelostemma seedling
Fritillaria przewalskii probably one of the latest flowering frits?
Bloomeria crocea var. aurea
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Oh my word! Whata selection this week :o 8)
I had no idea of such Triteleia selections.... 'Rudy' is so beautiful.
Are you sure the exhibitor has not applied excess electricity to that Albuca? Or too much hair perming lotion? ;)
Then an onion with more flowers packed into a ball than sems possible...... and any number of other wonders..... such a late Frit. and that pretty Dichelostemma ...... all a real treat.... learning more every week, Luit , from your pictures.
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Or too much hair perming lotion? ;)
?? not necessarily maybe .... dread locks ;)
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Or too much hair perming lotion? ;)
?? not necessarily maybe .... dread locks ;)
8) Very good, I hadn't thought of that possibility.
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Wonderful Tritelias, thanks for showing us Luit. The Albuca spiralis is super 8)
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Superb, Luit ... many thanks once again.
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Maggi, the plant respond to proper watering. With desert conditions it is "curly". With more (inadequate) watering the leaves unfurl and adopt a "normal" appearance.
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Maggi, the plant respond to proper watering. With desert conditions it is "curly". With more (inadequate) watering the leaves unfurl and adopt a "normal" appearance.
Thank you, Alberto. I assumed the foliage would be curled in any conditions, I am surprised to learn that over-watering would affect the degree of curl. Most interesting.
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I can tell you that those Triteleia from last week kept at ca. 15 C. in the hall
on this Monday still made a very good performance.
Here a few more Triteleia and some Brodiaea
Triteleia Koningin Fabiola
Triteleia Dexter
Brodiaea purdyi
Brodiaea californicum
Brodiaea elegans
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and some other entries:
Babiana stricta
Homeria aurantiaca
Homeria ochroleuca
Sprekelia formosissima
Ixia Eos
Leucocoryne Dione
Leucocoryne Andes
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This week a color spectacle in the Show Hall with many flowering perennials:
Echinacea Caroussell
Echinacea double mixed
Echinacea Hot Fragrance
Echinacea Meditation
Echinacea Summer Breeze
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Crocosmia Lucifer x A.J. Hogan
Begonia semperflorens Cherry Blossom
Lilium formosana White Crane I am not sure if this is the same as L. formosana var pricei (old wine in new bottles??) ???
Lilium Red Velvet
Phygelius recta Cherry Ripe
Triteleia double seedl. 1
Triteleia double seedl. 2
Triteleia peduncularis
and one pan of myself :D
Hermannia stricta
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Beautiful, Luit, thank you.
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I like Echinacea 'Hot Fragrance.' Reminds me of our Cain - Shaggy dog. I hope the fragrance in the name is pleasanter though ;D
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Wow, Luit, :o
those new echinaceas are nothing to sneeze at! ::)
;D
I must tell my Triteleia peduncularis that it can develop a stem! It flowered last year with the stem at ground level and the pedicels lifting the florets clear of the soil!
Thanks again, Luit,
cheers
fermi
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Among the many entries these weeks of Gladiolus and Agapanthus there are always some other plants to see as well.
Here some of my choices:
Gladiolus
Glamourglads
Chasmanthe floribunda
Chasmanthe floribunda Golden Wave
Chasmanthe floribunda var. duckittii
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Agapanthus
Agapanthus Senna
Crocosmia Culzean Pink x A. J. Hogan
Crocosmia Culzean Pink
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Some new small flowered gladiolus hybrids
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Lilium Vico Queen
Lilium Lady Alice
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and finally a nice new Eucomis hybrid:
Eucomis hybr.
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Yes that is a nice one Luit, thanks for showing us, I'll be interested to know it's name in due course ;)
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Luit:
Do you know if the Lilium Vico Queen had the hand of the late Sir Peter Smithers in it's background?
Arnold
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Do you know if the Lilium Vico Queen had the hand of the late Sir Peter Smithers in it's background?
My apologies for answering this instead of Luit.
Vico Queen is indeed one of Smithers' registered hybrids, part of his Vico Afro group. The RHS Lily group Newsletter #64 contains an article by him describing something of it's background.
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Good stuff, so showy! Love the Glamourglads, Chasmanthe and Agapanthus. I must say, on my screen, Crocosmia Culzean Pink looks blazing red-orange and not pink at all; is it really a pink color?
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Rob;
Thanks, It has L. Sulpherum in its background doesn't it.
Arnold
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Very pleased to see the Chasmanthe in flower as I have a dozen strong seedlings at present. I had no idea what it would be like. Seed from a kindly and generous Forumist. :)
Last summer there were some Glamourglads in packets in local garden centres. I was almost tempted. Maybe next summer. :-\
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Yes that is a nice one Luit, thanks for showing us, I'll be interested to know it's name in due course ;)
Brian, I was sure that you would like this one ;)
At this moment it has only a number, but it is asked to be planted out in the KAVB Garden for judging and I am sure it will receive a name soon.
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Do you know if the Lilium Vico Queen had the hand of the late Sir Peter Smithers in it's background?
My apologies for answering this instead of Luit.
Vico Queen is indeed one of Smithers' registered hybrids, part of his Vico Afro group. The RHS Lily group Newsletter #64 contains an article by him describing something of it's background.
Thanks Rob, I did not know this at all, but probably would have found it somewhere :-\
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Good stuff, so showy! Love the Glamourglads, Chasmanthe and Agapanthus. I must say, on my screen, Crocosmia Culzean Pink looks blazing red-orange and not pink at all; is it really a pink color?
Mark, I made the picture amidst only orange flowers and the camera did not justice the colour right.
I can show another picture made by someone else using flash. He was not satisfied about his result but the real colour is about between both pictures.
Just slightly more pinkish than orange.
Many pictures of Crocosmia species and hybrids may be seen here
http://www.theafricangarden.com/iridaceae_iris_family_image_index.html (http://www.theafricangarden.com/iridaceae_iris_family_image_index.html)
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Rob;
Thanks, It has L. Sulpherum in its background doesn't it.
Yes. He viewed it as part of an attempt to combine the qualities of sulphureum with better garden worthiness.
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Mark, I made the picture amidst only orange flowers and the camera did not justice the colour right.
I can show another picture made by someone else using flash. He was not satisfied about his result but the real colour is about between both pictures.
Just slightly more pinkish than orange.
Many pictures of Crocosmia species and hybrids may be seen here
http://www.theafricangarden.com/iridaceae_iris_family_image_index.html (http://www.theafricangarden.com/iridaceae_iris_family_image_index.html)
Thanks Luit, it does look more towards the hot pink spectrum in that photo. Yes, I'm familiar with Mr. Fenwick's web pages, most excellent, always worth another look!
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During the last weeks we saw many entries of Gladiolus, Agapanthus, Crocosmia etc.
Today (at last) :-[ :) I found some time for resizing and naming my pictures and I can show some
that I choose.
overview
Gladiolus Helvetia
Helenium Hot Lava
Crocosmia
Crocosmia x crocosmiiflora Jackanapes 1
Crocosmia x crocosmiiflora Jackanapes 2
Crocosmia Honey Angel
Crocosmia Prince of Holland
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Lots of Agapanthus were shown, here a few nice newer hybrids:
Agapanthus Cas
Agapanthus Happy Blue
and
Eucomis [Erundu]
Lilium Black Beauty
Lilium lankongense
Tropaeolum tuberosum Ken Aslet
x Rhodoxis Ruby Giant
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Thanks Luit, one or two nice things there ;) The first time I recall seeing cut blooms of Tropaeolum tuberosum Ken Aslet displayed in a show!
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Whatever was I thinking of? Today I went to a local garden centre to get some gumboots (wellies) as Roger said they had flowery ones that would suit me. Yes they would have but cost $84 so I left them there. But I was caught up in a display of dahlia tubers and gladiolus corms and bought some of each. These are NOT my thing but the dahlias were so dark red, cactus types called Blackbird, almost black and Black Touch, a very deep red, that I couldn't resist. I love very dark red flowers. I also bought one called Avignon which is a pink, lightly splashed with red, but overall sort of smoky. Then I bought 3 corms each of Glad. Regency, also very deep red and a bright lime green called Hint o' Mint. They would be more at home on this thread than in my garden, so we shall see what happens later in the year. ::)
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Looking at the many entries with Eucomis, we may expect lots of improvement in the near future.
Good colors for garden plants and also cutflowers with better scent.
Eucomis autumnalis x E. montanus
Eucomis vandermerwei
Eucomis [Minituft red]
Eucomis comosa Reuben
Eucomis comosa rose
Eucomis comosa Johannesburg
Eucomis punctata
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and various other interesting entries:
Agapanthus Anita
Zantedeschia
Colchicum bivonae Apollo
Colchicum Gracia
Crocosmia
Tritonia laxifolia
Tritonia lineata var. parvifolia
Watsonia meriana
Dahlia
Dahlia Striped Vulcan
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Some lovely Eucomis Luit, I especially like the minituft Red and Johannesburg ;D ;D
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To be quite honest, I am amazed to see this variety in the Eucomis. What a treat!
And what about the breadth of selection of others... so much for those folks who complain there are not late summer bulbs for colour!
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Some lovely Eucomis Luit, I especially like the minituft Red and Johannesburg ;D ;D
Yes Brian, I can tell you that I made the picture of Johannesburg a week after it was brought into the show and now another week later it was still standing like a soldier in the vase and not hanging over like many other new hybrids. Definitely one to look out for in near future.
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This autumn many bulbs are flowering about a month earlier than usual.
May we expect an early winther after such an early autumn ???? ( and here the first autumn gale yesterday) ::)::)
Well looking in the Show Hall this week and spotting an entry with Hyacinths, the answer is yes ;)
Hyacinthus
Narcissus triandrus seedl.
Dahlia Red Flamboyant
Dahlia seedl.
Bessera elegans
Colchicum
Colchicum Glory of Heemstede [syn. C. Conquest]
Crocosmia aurea
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and some more:
Dahlia [Little Darling]
Dahlia Maziroth
Dahlia Purple Pearl
Nerine Belladonna hybr.
Nerine bowdenii hybr
Nerine bowdenii hybr (2)
Haemanthus x clarkei cl.
Haemanthus x clarkei
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My word, what a fine ...and wide.... selection.
For a moment I thought I had stumbled onto a SPRING page, because of those Hyacinths :o ::) :D 8) 8)
After another wet day it is especially good to see these perfect blooms. I know I am not the only person, Luit, to be grateful for your work in bringing us these photos. :-* Even if they do make me think I could use a bigger garden.......
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Great pictures. Really like the Haemanthus x clarkei flowers 8).
Angie :)
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Enough to cheer the cockles of your heart, a wonderful display again, thanks Luit, the Dahlia Purple Pearl is very attractive.
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Great pictures. Really like the Haemanthus x clarkei flowers 8).
Angie :)
So do I! I'm glad to see someone doing something with them.
Jim
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I am very happy that you still like my pictures. I already showed too many here though, don't you think ??? :)
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I am very happy that you still like my pictures. I already showed too many here though, don't you think ??? :)
NEVER, we enjoy these lovely pictures. Keep them coming.
Angie :)
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Angela, you took the words from my keyboard!
Luit, we very much appreciate your reports, if, of course, you can spare the time to prepare them for us. I know it is a lot of work.
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Luit:
Is there such a thing as to much chocolate?
Arnold
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Hello Luit
fantastic pics and fantastic autumn flowers
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I am very happy that you still like my pictures. I already showed too many here though, don't you think ??? :)
Hi Luit ... we hope the above was just a senior moment!!! ;D
To date there have been 57,492 views of this topic ... surely those figures say it all. ;)
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Luit, we very much appreciate your reports, if, of course, you can spare the time to prepare them for us. I know it is a lot of work.
Absolutely...but where would I be without my occasional fix of Galanthus and Eucomis ;) Seriously though Luit, your postings are really something to look forward to, on a par with the bulblog ;D ;D
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Keep 'em coming Luit.
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Hi Luit ... we hope the above was just a senior moment!!! ;D
senior….. who?? me ??? :-[ :o :o
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never- ;D ;D ;D
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After a rather long absence here some new pictures from the Weekly Show:
Colchicum baytopiorum
Crocus robertianus
Narcissus elegans
and an unnamed white flowering (hybrid?) of xAmarcrinum
xAmarcrinum
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That pretty x amarcrinum is doing a fine job of copying the exquisite colouring of Colchium byzantinum album 8) The pink tips are just lovely.
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Lovely pics Luit, we missed you at the Discussion Weekend.....
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I had to make choices Chris ;D ;D :D
Have a look at the picture which I made from the terrace where we lived in Austria. What would YOU do ????
Almost 3 weeks every day a blue sky is something else than 3 days in rainy and windy Scotland ;)
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:o I sight for sore eyes, that's for sure. We just wouldn't be able to compete with that!
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Just im time back from a short trip to Austria (again) :D to take a few pictures of the weekly Show this Monday.
In this time of year there are not so many flowers to see, but every week we see some interesting things.
For instance a Sauromatum, grown without soil or water on the windowsill and setting seed
Sauromatum venosum
and some vey nice flowering Schyzostylis in pots:
Schizostylis coccineus Major
Schizostylis Sunrise
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What a weird little thing the Sauromatum is Luit. By the way the Taxonomists have been at it again and Schyzostylis are now Hesperantha. Whatever they are called it's been a good year for them in the gardens around here.
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David, I've almost given up to follow the "modern"? Taxonomist. Just able to remember Schizostylis and write the name properly and now I would have to put a new name to an old plant, na... , forget it ::) ::) ;D ;D
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Just a few pictures this week. Until the bulb season will start not many entries now.
Cyclamen cyprium
Galanthus cilicicus
Crocus laevigatus Dark Form
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David, I've almost given up to follow the "modern"? Taxonomist. Just able to remember Schizostylis and write the name properly and now I would have to put a new name to an old plant, na... , forget it ::) ::) ;D ;D
I'm with you all the way Luit.
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During this time of the year the Show Committee is happy with every entry brought in.
Even when a (rather rare) annual plant is shown.
We saw a huge plant of Tagetes minuta. "minuta"is for the very small flowers but the plant itself
reached the enormous height of 3.5 meters (15 feet) !!
Tagetes minuta
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There were some Cyclamen and Narcissus too.
A Lachenalia and also, not often seen here, the not hardy shrub Dichroa.
And last but not least a nice bulb of Bowiea volubilis
Cyclamen elegans
Cyclamen pseud-ibericum
Lachenalia viridiflora
Narcissus papyraceus a nice short form!
Narcissus papyraceus cl.
Dichroa febrifuga
Bowiea volubilis
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I love the Bowiea. ;D
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Isn't it great to see the variety of flowers at the show 8)
Angie :)
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Yes Angie, it is! Every week again there is something that surprises us too :D
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Well, the 3.5m Tagetes certainly surprised us here! :o
I'm a bit worried about that Bowiea, though... are we SURE it is a plant for show and not a vegetable for the committee's lunch?! :-\
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You should tell the grower of the Dichroa to give it some alum (potassium aluminium sulfate), it's much nicer in blue. The Guizhou clone is hardy in Seattle, so it may be worth trying outside in the Netherlands as well.
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I'm a bit worried about that Bowiea, though... are we SURE it is a plant for show and not a vegetable for the committee's lunch?! :-\
I thought so, served in wedges with a lemon and garlic dressing, garnished with a sprig of mint. ;D
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You should tell the grower of the Dichroa to give it some alum (potassium aluminium sulfate), it's much nicer in blue. The Guizhou clone is hardy in Seattle, so it may be worth trying outside in the Netherlands as well.
Thank you Ariseama, I will tell him about the Guizhou clone, maybe it is available here too.
I think that with the alum he will know, because this plant is relative to Hydrangea. But with very many different plants in a garden these are the things one seldom does to improve the color, I'm afraid.
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I'm a bit worried about that Bowiea, though... are we SURE it is a plant for show and not a vegetable for the committee's lunch?! :-\
I thought so, served in wedges with a lemon and garlic dressing, garnished with a sprig of mint. ;D
Are you ladies always hungry? ??? ::)
Thank God it is safely on our windowsill and when I ever take a little piece off, this will be for propagating ;D :D
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Spoilsport! ;D
Now that's interesting. In the email in my Inbox, of this post, Maggi and I are women, but here, we are ladies. Probably Luit, being always hungry as we are, you should have stuck with the "women" epithet. ;D
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Spoilsport! ;D
Now that's interesting. In the email in my Inbox, of this post, Maggi and I are women, but here, we are ladies. Probably Luit, being always hungry as we are, you should have stuck with the "women" epithet. ;D
Dear Lesley, when I did read my lines again I had the feeling that I probably made a little mistake when talking about women.
Therefore I decided to do some upgrading. At least for you both :-* :-*
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With some delay here a few pictures of last Monday's Show:
Astilbe
Nerine Hera
Narcissus Nylon Group
Narcissus cantabricus Clusii
Galanthus plicatus Three Ships
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Lovely pictures, Luit. That Nerine 'Hera' is definitely wrongly labelled ~ the plant pictured is almost certainly a Nerine undulata hybrid, possibly 'Pink Triumph', 'Hera' is sarniensis x bowdenii.
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Dear Lesley, when I did read my lines again I had the feeling that I probably made a little mistake when talking about women.
Therefore I decided to do some upgrading. At least for you both :-* :-*
You are a lovely man Luit, especially when you send me such nice little parcels in the mail. ;D
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Lovely pictures, Luit. That Nerine 'Hera' is definitely wrongly labelled ~ the plant pictured is almost certainly a Nerine undulata hybrid, possibly 'Pink Triumph', 'Hera' is sarniensis x bowdenii.
Malcolm, I believe that this was the source of delivery some years ago: http://www.broadleighbulbs.co.uk/images/spring/miscnp/nerinehera1.jpg (http://www.broadleighbulbs.co.uk/images/spring/miscnp/nerinehera1.jpg)
Don't see much difference???
If it really is wrong I'll pass on your opinion.
Lesley, don't exaggerate..... ;)
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Yes, Luit, I am sure that the plant pictured is wrongly labelled. It has the characteristic 'doughnut' shaped flowerhead of N. undulata, & also N. undulata's floral symmetry. The plant pictured is also flowering late in the season, again a character of N. undulata & its hybrids.
True Nerine 'Hera' is rare, but there is a bed of it growing at Kew Gardens & the plants there appear to be un-virused; even rarer!
I'll see if I can find a photo of a true 'Hera' on the internet.
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Thank you for your description Malcolm! I hope you'll find a picture and then will make a copy and send it to the grower here.
What a pity that since years these wrong labelled plants are still offered in the trade :(
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There's a photo of what looks like true Nerine 'Hera' on The African Garden website; it's not a brilliant picture & I don't think the colour is accurate (often a problem with photographing nerines), but it's the only one I could find...
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Malcolm, I did some research about Nerine Hera as well and found out that the Nerine and Amaryllid Society is the International Cultivar Registration Authority for Nerine.
If this authority did the work properly it should be impossible that two different plants get the same name.
Bob Brown of Cotswold Garden Flowers does mention TWO Nerine Hera:
Nerine 'Hera'
A bowdenii x sarniensis hybrid, bright pink flowers 45cm, Oct-Nov.
Nerine 'Hera' misnamed
See Nerine bowdenii 'Chris Sanders'.
Nerine bowdenii 'Chris Sanders'
Large deep pink flowers Oct-Dec, taller and more richly coloured than normal, 65cm. Easy, hardy. Leaves active all year. This is the most widespread clone in Ireland. Named 27/10/07 as 'Chris Sanders' by Margaret Owen.
The first might be the one you noticed growing at KEW Gardens.
The other one might be the one in trade and could be the Nerine Hera misnamed, now named as Nerine bowdenii 'Chris Sanders':
Is it possible that the Nerine Society can confirm that N. Chris Sanders is the same as the one I showed here?
And is there some member of the Nerine Society who possibly has made pictures of the plants at Kew
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Luit, the name 'Hera' has only been correctly assigned to a Nerine hybrid once: this was in about 1910, by a man called Rose who lived in Oxford. The hybrid is a cross between Nerine bowdenii & (probably) Nerine 'Fothergillii Major', or another triploid sarniensis type. 'Hera' is a triploid. It is also very rare, & the name has been assigned by individuals, who have found darker coloured or winter-leafing bowdenii clones & have assumed (wrongly) that their plant is 'Hera'.
True 'Hera' does exist, as I stated earlier & can be found at the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, as well as a number of private collections.
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Sorry ~ Luit, the plant you picture is NOT Nerine bowdenii 'Chris Sanders', the plant you have photographed so nicely is a hybrid of Nerine undulata.
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Malcolm, thank you so much for all the very detailed information and I can say that your information is very much appreciated by the grower of the "wrong" Nerine Hera.
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Here some pictures of the last Show in 2011.
It's strange to see pots full of snowdrops in mid December. Some flower a month earlier than normally.
Other bulbous plants only flower so early after special treatment
Galanthus elwesii Hiemalis Broadleigh Form
Galanthus elwesii sel.
Galanthus Faringdon Double
Hyacinthus pink seedl.
Hyacinthus Rembrandt
Hyacinthus Red Glory
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We were surprised to see a nice vase with Eucharis. We were told that it is possibly to
deliver these all year round now as cut flower.
Eucharis amazonica
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and a few good looking tulips to finish.
Tulipa Donatello
Tulipa Fort Knox
Tulipa Oviedo
Tulipa Cadans
Tulipa Argos
I wish you all a Merry Christmas and a very happy and healthy New Year.
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A great way to end the year, Luit!
Thanks again for taking us with you to see all these wonderful flowers!
cheers
fermi
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We were surprised to see a nice vase with Eucharis. We were told that it is possibly to
deliver these all year round now as cut flower.
Eucharis amazonica
That will be fun to see in the florist's shop.
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Thanks for all the pics throughout the year Luit and looking forward to seeing them in 2012.
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The Eucharis is only a small product in Holland. The nursery which showed these flowers does grow in pots and as cut flowers on appr. 20.000 sq. meters.
The total area in Holland might be about 30.000 sq. meters!
Here is a link of the firm. Just click on the flag for the language and click at the different topics where foto's are shown as well and where you may read how to cultivate them at home in pots.
http://www.eucharis.nu/ (http://www.eucharis.nu/)
On another link you'll find an article (in Dutch) where you may get some impression of the way they are produced:
http://www.bloemenblad.nl/pdf/bc606b8caafb54ef87d32e5aace3b9c6.pdf (http://www.bloemenblad.nl/pdf/bc606b8caafb54ef87d32e5aace3b9c6.pdf)
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Superb information as always, Luit - and many thanks for all your efforts on our behalves throughout the year. Seasons greetings to you both from Lancashire.
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At this first show of the new year the visitors could enjoy a nice variation of entries.
Of course many tulips and narcissus, but also snowdrops and several other bulbous plants were shown.
I selected some pictures to show here.
Tulipa Coquette Yellow
Tulipa Violinde
Haemanthus deformis
Iris unguicularis Bob Thompson
Haemanthus pauculifolius
A little vase with Narcissus, which were picked from the field.
We were told that it's from a cross between N. asturiensis and N. Rijnveld's Early Sensation,
both well known as flowering very early.
Narcissus Dawn Chorus
Tulipa Columbus
Tulipa Hennie van der Most
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What a good start to the new year, Luit.
I was just emailing you, thinking you'd got "lost" on holiday again! ;)
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I'm afraid my pictures are rather blurred this time. When I was at home after the Show I noticed that I
accidentally made the pictures with the wrong focus.
But nevertheless I will show some of the better ones here :-\
Hopefully they will cheer up some folks in this really cold winter weather today :D
Since 90 years in culture and still a good plant is Hyacinthus Pink Pearl.
Here some pictures of its Birthday and some descendants of this cultivar:
Hyacinthus Pink Pearl
Hyacinthus Pink Pearl 90 Yrs.
Hyacinthus Pearls Passion
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And some other entries:
Colchicum hungaricum Velebit Star
Crocus korolkowii Agalik
Lachenalia aloides var. quadricolor
Narcissus Galactic Star
Narcissus Johann Strauss
Narcissus Kiss Me
Narcissus Wedding Bell
Tulipa Dalyda
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I'm afraid my pictures are rather blurred this time. When I was at home after the Show I noticed that I
accidentally made the pictures with the wrong focus.
Are you sure you weren't just shivering in the cold Luit ;)
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Not on Monday Brian, but today I was everytime when I had to go outside. Strong N.E winds and just about - 3C , but when in the sun behind a hedge it was almost nice ;D ;D ;D
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You are correct, Luit... in this weather it is a pleasure to enjoy photos even if they are not as perfect as your usual shots.
The plants are clear enough. Though I do not think they smell quite so good..... ;) ;D
What fun to have the pearls with the hyacinth. I could have sent over some pink ones... even better eh?! ;)
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I'm afraid the Hyacinthus growers could not afford te pink ones ;D ;D :-X
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I'm afraid the Hyacinthus growers could not afford te pink ones ;D ;D :-X
Don't tell them.... they are cheaper!! ;D
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There you see, my knowledge of jewellery is not so good, hmmmm. But was able to see the ones on show were not true ::) ::) ::)
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There you see, my knowledge of jewellery is not so good, hmmmm. But was able to see the ones on show were not true ::) ::) ::)
That is a good start! ;)
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Narcissus Dawn Chorus is nice - how tall is it, Luit? I think I might attempt a similar cross.
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Dawn Chorus has been on my wants list for years. Anne I would say its a miniature but not tiny
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Narcissus Dawn Chorus is nice - how tall is it, Luit? I think I might attempt a similar cross.
Anne, sorry for not finding your question earlier.
The flowers were picked on the field and were maybe 10-15 cm, but they might be go up to 20 cm. when getting warmer.
This year they will have been damaged by the really extreme frosts (for us :-\) here in February.
See the following posting ;)
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Despite the heavy cold of the days before there were a lot of flowers at the Show.
Being in the "warmer" coastal part of the Netherlands, we had Saturday in the night temps of
-17 C and during the following days the temps raised here to -7C to -10 C with sunhine in the afternoon.
Today there's almost no sun, temps raising to just -2C and very windy from N.E. Brrr. ::) ::) ::)
Here some flowers to cheer up :D
Narcissus
Narcissus Spring Sunshine
Narcissus Superstar
Narcissus Lemon Silk
Narcissus The Alliance 1
Narcissus The Alliance cl.
Narcissus Toby the First
Narcissus Topolino
Helleborus x nigercors Bob's Best close
Helleborus x nigercors Bob's Best
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Eranthis hiemalis Schwefelglanz
Tulipa
Tulipa Devenish
Tulipa Petticoat
Tulipa Petticoat cl
Tulipa Verona Sunrise
Tulipa Voice of Holland
Iris histrioides var. sophenensis
Iris reticulata Kuh-e-Abr
Iris bakeriana
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Looks very "springlike" Luit, lovely.
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Wonderful display. I like Narcissus Spring Sunshine and Narcissus Superstar especially .
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Looks very "springlike" Luit, lovely.
"Springlike" again this week :D
This week many pots with Narcissus were in competition.
Very good quality was shown and (not only) for me was a pot with N. Peeping Tom with at least more than 100 flowers very impressive.
Narcissus Peeping Tom
Narcissus Beau Geste
Narcissus Cornish King
Narcissus Foxhunter
Narcissus First Hope
Narcissus Topolino
Narcissus Jetfire
Narcissus Kingham
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Some more Narcissus:
Narcissus Mite
Narcissus Mite cl
Narcissus Rijnveld's Early Sensation
Narcissus Sherwood Forest
Narcissus Signor
Narcissus tazetta Ziva
Narcissus Miti Moto
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Almost every week lots of Lilium are shown here too, this week I had to make a picture of
a red flowering one.
And finally amongst the other entries there was a nice Hyacinthella.
Lilium Deep Impact
Hyacinthella pallens
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Luit,
what a color spectacle after dull days. A pleasant anticipation to the start of spring.
'Peeping Tom' is nicely different and put on my wish list.
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Luit, do you have any more information please on Narcissus 'Cornish King' ? There is nothing at all on Daffseek about it.
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Luit, do you have any more information please on Narcissus 'Cornish King' ? There is nothing at all on Daffseek about it.
David, the N. Cornish King comes probably from the Rosewarne Institute.
They had many years a breeding programme with Narcissus. When they stopped many unnamed seedlings
sold to nurseries and some of these were selected. This is obviously one which was never registered.
We hopefully are awaiting some more information, but this has to come from the UK (might take some time? ::) ::) ;))
Today here one specially for you:
Narcissus Cornish Chuckles
One to look out for I think :D
BTW: Daffseek is not the official registrar. That is the RHS and all registered ones are to find there online!
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In one entry this week were many specialties:
Crocus minimus Bavella
Fritillaria aurea Robust
Iris Spot On
Muscari muscarimi Honaz Dag
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I made one picture of a Hippeastrum, but it was not possible to thow the real color,,(more purplish)
Hippeastrum Purple Rain
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and finally some Chilean krokus:
Tecophilea cyanocrocus
Tecophilea cyanocrocus Violacea
Tecophilea cyanocrocus Leichtlinii
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Please anyone ! What is F. aurea 'Robust', and why does it exist? ??? ??? ???
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Perhaps a robust (and apparently low-growing) form of F. aurea? I usually find all seedlings of F. aurea reasonably robust, i.e. easy to grow and increase both vegetatively and from seed.
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If ever you have fresh seed to spare Lesley, I'd be most grateful for a little.
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If ever you have fresh seed to spare Lesley, I'd be most grateful for a little.
I'll make a note in my book Ashley. Have to do that nowadays or I forgot what, to whom! ::)
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Luit, do you have any more information please on Narcissus 'Cornish King' ? There is nothing at all on Daffseek about it.
David, the N. Cornish King comes probably from the Rosewarne Institute.
They had many years a breeding programme with Narcissus. When they stopped many unnamed seedlings
sold to nurseries and some of these were selected. This is obviously one which was never registered.
We hopefully are awaiting some more information, but this has to come from the UK (might take some time? ::) ::) ;))
Today here one specially for you:
Narcissus Cornish Chuckles
One to look out for I think :D
BTW: Daffseek is not the official registrar. That is the RHS and all registered ones are to find there online!
Thanks for that Liut, I had Rosewarne in mind. I bought 'Cornish Chuckles' last autumn and have planted them out in the garden. Doubt if they'll look as good when they flower as the ones you posted!
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Truly magnificent pictures Luit, thanks a lot. 8)
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Thank you for the compliment Rogan :D I do my best but it's a difficult place for making pictures with the light in this hall :-\
Please anyone ! What is F. aurea 'Robust', and why does it exist? ??? ??? ???
I am NOT guilty ::)
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Seeing all the happy flowering crocuses on Monday spring must be on the way.
(the last days were just grey though, and we had temps just about 5 - 7 C. here) :-\
Crocus biflorus nubigena
Crocus gargaricus
Crocus chrysanthus Moonlight
Crocus chrysanthus Saturnus
Crocus chrysanthus White Beauty
Crocus reticulatus x angustifolius
Crocus chrysanthus E.P. Bowles
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and a few other entries.
The choice in multiflorus hyacinths is steadily increasing. Here a new pink form:
Hyacinthus multiflorus pink
Scilla mischtschenkoana
Tulipa Outbreak
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I hope it is not only the Croconuts who see those Crocus pictures and feel really happy?!! 8)
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Who needs a sun when you have a pot full of Crocus chrysanthus E.P. Bowles 8)
Angie :) :)
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The croci warm my heart - wunderful!
I hope that some rarer cultivated stocks like Saturnus, Moonlight, White Beauty may have their renaissance soon?
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Who needs a sun when you have a pot full of Crocus chrysanthus E.P. Bowles 8)
Angie :) :)
May be for Scots o.k., but my old bones really prefer the sun :D :D :D
The same grey day again today, and Crocus don't open their flowers ::) ::)
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The same grey day again today, and Crocus don't open their flowers ::) ::)
Similar here, forecast was 15°C & sunshine :D but actual 12°C & dull ::)
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Coming into the Show Hall we were surprised by many miscellaneous entries:
Iris hollandica
a new hyacint with big flowers
Hyacinthus Fresco
Scilla mischtschenkoana Zwanenburg
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a vase with many different snowdrops
and one with a bunch of Leucojum vernum
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Some tulips
Tulipa Joint Division
Tulipa Pionier
Tulipa greigii Hybr.
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some of the many crocuses:
Crocus chrysanthus Willem van Eeden b
Crocus chrysanthus Constellation
Crocus chrysanthus Princess Beatrix
Crocus chrysanthus Fuscotinctus
Crocus chrysanthus Willem van Eeden
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and finally a showy entry with Hippeastrum
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Super images as usual Luit ... many thanks.
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I rather like that Crocus chrysanthus 'Constellation', very attractive markings, but tell me Luit, what is the purpose of exhibiting a mixed vase of Galanthus?
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but tell me Luit, what is the purpose of exhibiting a mixed vase of Galanthus?
Well Brian, such response I could expect from you …..of course ::)
Maybe the exhibitor wanted to show how much diversity in white there is ??
Like in the way of a "Rhapsody in Blue" :P :P :P
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but tell me Luit, what is the purpose of exhibiting a mixed vase of Galanthus?
To prove that they are really all the same. ;D
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;D
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but tell me Luit, what is the purpose of exhibiting a mixed vase of Galanthus?
To prove that they are really all the same. ;D
Ok I admit, I asked for that ::)
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but tell me Luit, what is the purpose of exhibiting a mixed vase of Galanthus?
To prove that they are really all the same. ;D
But some did look a bit anaemic ;D
Thanks again, Luit,
for showing us these great pics!
It must be wonderful to see such bounty on a weekly basis!
cheers
fermi
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I enjoy your regular visits too, Luit - Many thanks.
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Reading the reactions above makes me think that we really are privileged being in a position to visit these shows every week :D :D :D
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This week I picked just a few narcissus out of the almost full Show Hall.
Narcissus × odorus Double Campernelle
Narcissus Heamoor
Narcissus Altun Ha
Narcissus Queen Beatrix
Narcissus Jamestown
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Many beautiful entries of Hippeastrum and Narcissus last Monday.
The most pictures I show are overviews.
There was one exhibitor with at least 75 different Narcissus in vases.
If it's of interest you may see two famous Dutch bulbgrowers on the pictures (both were many years asked for
judging at RHS Daffodil an Tulip Shows in London)
Narcissus
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Hippeastrum
Hippeastrum pots
Hippeastrum Tia Maria
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There was one pot with an unkown Pelargonium, well there was a name (P. Namalux) but that was probably not the right name
Pelargonium
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and finally some new Narcissus and the last one brought some memories of our travels in Devon two years ago :D
Narcissus Double Six
Narcissus March Surprise
Narcissus Noss Mayo
Noss Mayo, a nice little village with lots of parking places, for as long the tide is low....... ::) ::) ::)
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I dont like double or split Narcissus but Double Six is lovely
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Luit,
It is always such a pleasure to see these exhibits. It must be amazing to be able to visit a display like this every week..... just like having your own show weekly. And I'm sure that what we see doesn't really give an idea of the scale and scope of the display. Thanks so much for showing us.
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Noss Mayo is very nice Luit, another Cornish raised Daff.
Noss Mayo village is very nice too, if a bit "boaty"! Many years ago now when I first came down to Devon to work and before Maureen and the kids joined me I went to Noss Mayo one evening for a pint. Later in the evening a chap came into the bar and announced to the locals something like "Give it another 45 minutes and a blue Horizon (I drove a Talbot Horizon then) will be floating" and I joined in the laughter before realising it was mine. I had to take off shoes socks and jeans and wade out to it and water was just lapping the bottom of the doors. It started first pull though ;D
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Luit,
It is always such a pleasure to see these exhibits. It must be amazing to be able to visit a display like this every week..... just like having your own show weekly. And I'm sure that what we see doesn't really give an idea of the scale and scope of the display. Thanks so much for showing us.
Yes Paul, it is always amazing indeed. And I am glad that I am able to share at least some pictures here on the Forum.
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Where would we be without you, Luit?
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Noss Mayo is very nice Luit, another Cornish raised Daff.
Noss Mayo village is very nice too, if a bit "boaty"! Many years ago now when I first came down to Devon to work and before Maureen and the kids joined me I went to Noss Mayo one evening for a pint. Later in the evening a chap came into the bar and announced to the locals something like "Give it another 45 minutes and a blue Horizon (I drove a Talbot Horizon then) will be floating" and I joined in the laughter before realising it was mine. I had to take off shoes socks and jeans and wade out to it and water was just lapping the bottom of the doors. It started first pull though ;D
Lovely story David! I think it will still often happen that people will find their car (almost) floating after a nice walk and afterwards a visit to the pub for a meal.
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Where would we be without you, Luit?
Life will proceed Cliff ;)
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Where would we be without you, Luit?
Life will proceed Cliff ;)
... But not as we know it. ;D
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Then I'll have a drink first, just in time Cheers!
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Since some years there show up some double mutants in Narcissus Tete a Tete:
Narcissus Tete a Tete dubbele mutant 1
Narcissus Tete a Tete dubbele mutant 2
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Some more pics of double Narcissus:
Narcissus group dubb.
Narcissus Kiwi Sunset
Narcissus Gold Medal dubbel
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Some lovely small Narcissus:
Narcissus Jeannine
Narcissus mandasii
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and some other flowers on the tables:
Fritillaria
Tecophilea cyanocrocus
Libertia
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More Narcissus:
Narcissus group
Narcissus Apple Honey
Narcissus Bright Spangles
Narcissus Oops
Narcissus Motmot
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Lovely images as always.
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Thanks Cliff, more will follow later. Obviously to busy on the Forum ?
Used more than 20 mins for these pics :'( :'( and other things have to be done first...
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Narcissus Jeannine :o
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Narcissus Jeannine :o
I agree, Anne, 'she' is lovely.
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Hopefully the following pics will go a bit faster ::) Staring 5 mins at the screen and waiting till 2 pics are (NOT) loaded is rather boaring :-X
a couple of trumpets:
Narcissus British Gamble
Narcissus Eclatant
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and
Narcissus group historic
Narcissus eystettensis
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and finally a perfect pot of Veltheimia
Veltheimia bracteata
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Narcissus Jeannine :o
Yes this is quite nice. The doubles are truly grotesque.
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Since some years there show up some double mutants in Narcissus Tete a Tete:
Narcissus Tete a Tete dubbele mutant 1
Narcissus Tete a Tete dubbele mutant 2
Oh, how absolutely glor beastly. :o
'Jeannine,' on the other hand is a delight. :)
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This week we saw 120 Narcissus of the famous Connoisseur Collection on the tables.
I tried to make a choice, but I could have photographed them all as well.
Narcissus
Narcissus Aberfoyle
Narcissus Actaea
Narcissus Verdant
Narcissus Aflame
Narcissus Morvah Lady
Narcissus Chipper
Narcissus Ffitch Folly
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Narcissus Great Gatsby
Narcissus Jenny Out
Narcissus Marie Curie Diamond
Narcissus Bravoure
Narcissus poeticus Recurvus Praecox Edit: N. p. Recurvus is one of the latest flowering poeticus
Narcissus Stadium
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and finally one for our friends in Devon :D
Narcissus Torcross
Always nice to see a plant named after a place visited in the past ;D
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Beautiful as always, Luit.
And I like the doubles, well most of them anyway. I like the idea of a double tete-a-tete, given a double of miniature size like that. Jeanine is beautiful, but so are a lot of the others.
Thanks again for taking the time to post the pics, particularly with the system on a go slow. 8)
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I am so enjoying the photos ofnarcissus from the C.Collection- the more so because I can actually enjoy the wonderful fragrance of narcissus as I view the pictures.
Has Fred finally got that elusive scent button fixed to the forum? :o
No: a friend brought me a huge bunch of Narcissus 'Erlicheer' and their fragrance is filling the house!
It adds a marvelous dimension to the viewing. 8)
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Interesting how different scents can appear to different people. I once grew Narcissus 'Erlicheer' and thought the scent was horrible. I don't like the scent of paperwhites and other strongly scented tazettas either.
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This week we saw 120 Narcissus of the famous Connoisseur Collection on the tables.
I tried to make a choice, but I could have photographed them all as well.
Wonderful narcissus, Luit! Thanks for showing those beauties, I very enjoy this topic.
Luit, I wonder for the name of bi-colour narcissus (white with yellow tube), the first from the left in the group picture. A nice variety.
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Wonderful narcissus, Luit! Thanks for showing those beauties, I very enjoy this topic.
Luit, I wonder for the name of bi-colour narcissus (white with yellow tube), the first from the left in the group picture. A nice variety.
Zhirair that must be Narcissus Jolly Roger. I like those bicoloured forms very much too.
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Oh, I should have added in my original text that this is about just 5 % of the total collection!
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and finally one for our friends in Devon :D
Narcissus Torcross
Always nice to see a plant named after a place visited in the past ;D
Looks a lot prettier than the place does Luit ;D This was raised by Brian Duncan.
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Of all those shown above, my favourite is N. poeticus praecox. Simple, clean and very elegant. :)
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Lesley I think that if we could walk together through this collection and with a lot of flowers we might probably have the same taste 8)
Of all those shown above, my favourite is N. poeticus praecox. Simple, clean and very elegant. :)
Next week there is a Narcissus competition again at the show. Do you mean I can leave my camera at home then?? :-\
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NOOOOooooo!
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Luit, don't you dare! ;D
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Next week there is a Narcissus competition again at the show. Do you mean I can leave my camera at home then?? :-\
Of course not! :o
Luit, I think I'd be very happy to have similar taste to yours. :-*
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Luit, don't you dare! ;D
That sounds mildly threatening, so I better start loading the (camera)batteries now for tomorrow ;D ;D ;D
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Many Narcissus again this week at the special Narcissus Competition:
Overview
Narcissus American Robin
Narcissus Arish Mell
Narcissus Bright Spangles
Narcissus Catalyst
Narcissus Cool Crystal
Narcissus Fragrant Rose
Narcissus 2
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But there were other entries as well:
Pleione
Pleione limprichtii
Fritillaria
Lachenalia contaminata
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Some more Narcissus:
Narcissus Indian Maid
Narcissus Glory of Lisse
Narcissus Little Soldier
Narcissus Horn of Plenty
Narcissus Radiant Gem
Narcissus Queenscourt
Narcissus Marquette
Narcissus Royal Marine
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a few mutants of Tulipa van Eyk:
Tulipa Lady van Eyk
Tulipa Mystic van Eyk
Tulipa Oranje van Eyk
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and the last few Narcissus:
Narcissus Newcastle
Narcissus Radjel
Narcissus Socialite
Narcissus Spindletop
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and finally a few other entries:
Aquilegia
Erythronium revolutum
Alstroemeria pulchra var. lavandulacea
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Luit
Thanks for the pictures - great.
Do the showers transport the blooms dry or in water to the show?
Frazer
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Thanks Luit; some wonderful narcissus and other things, lovely to see 8)
'Cool Crystal' is especially nice & one I must look out for.
The flowers of Lachenalia contaminata remind me of L. pustulata which has been blooming here for the last month or so, though the foliage is very different of course.
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Luit
Thanks for the pictures - great.
Do the showers transport the blooms dry or in water to the show?
Frazer
Frazer, I must say that when I arrive at the show most flowers are already on the tables. But I know that for instance one exhibitor picks his flowers on the field on Saturday, puts them in water and on Sunday he arranges the flowers in the vases. On Monday he needs several hours bringing them all in and putting them on the tables.
But I think that generally speaken Narcissus flowers for the show will need a little water after picking. Keeping them dry will only be possible when picking them a few hours before the show.
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As always, many thanks Luit, lovely to see all these. That Alstroemeria pulchra var. lavandulacea is striking.
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Some very nice narcissus, Luit.
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Glad you like them :D It was a rather lot of work :)
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But we do so appreciate it!
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But we do so appreciate it!
:D :D :D
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It took some time to find my password again ::), but at last I hope I will be able to make the report of this week's Show
This week again a Narcissus competition, but there was more:
Edit: just found out that attachments are not possible yet, so I will come back here as soon as it works.
Do I miss the so usefull spellcheck as well??
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It took some time to find my password again ::), but at last I hope I will be able to make the report of this week's Show
This week again a Narcissus competition, but there was more
Sorry Luit, we are not able to post photos at the moment. It will take a while longer to get that sorted out. So you can have a little more time to relax! :-* :-*
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It took some time to find my password again ::), but at last I hope I will be able to make the report of this week's Show
This week again a Narcissus competition, but there was more
Sorry Luit, we are not able to post photos at the moment. It will take a while longer to get that sorted out. So you can have a little more time to relax! :-* :-*
Just saw your answer while modifying my post. So relaxing time for now , CHEERS ;)
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Here the pictures from last week with again a Narcissus competition, but there was more:
Ipheion Jessie
Iris hollandica
Muscari Ocean Magic
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Some really nice pots:
Narcissus assoanus
Narcissus Diamond Ring
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Of the flower arrangements I pictured this one
Narcissus Arctic Gem
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Some narcissus:
Narcissus Arizona Sunset
Narcissus Ambergate
The next one is even more orange but I was not able to get the right color with my camera, despite several tries ::)
Narcissus Red Area
Narcissus Fairy Chimes
Narcissus Jan Dalton
Narcissus Cutting Edge
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The following is in my eyes more interesting than really nice:
Narcissus Petit Four
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a nice tazetta and a miniature:
Narcissus Scilly White
Narcissus wilkommii
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Many visitors were delighted to see the next new one:
Narcissus Janneke
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and finally some Tulipa seedlings:
Tulipa dark purple
Tulipa seedl. white
Tulipa seedl. black
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