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Specific Families and Genera => Amaryllidaceae => Topic started by: Hans J on January 29, 2008, 01:49:34 PM
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Hi all,
here is a remember :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=727.msg16572#msg16572
today looks the leaves :
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Good morning folks,
here are some pics of a plant i bought last autumn from P.C. as Haemanthus namaquensis.
Im not complete sure that this is namaquensis, i will be sure when the leaves are full developed (but the relic from the old leaves look like nama.).
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9928/img2403vu4.th.jpg) (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2403vu4.jpg)
(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6118/img2412ol4.th.jpg) (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2412ol4.jpg)
(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/8537/img2455qp7.th.jpg) (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2455qp7.jpg)
(http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8455/img2470tu3.th.jpg) (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2470tu3.jpg)
Best wishes
Bernie
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Hi Bernie ,
Great pics !
my compliment to this nice plant - keep us updatet ......
Best wishes
Hans
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Good Morning Forum,
i have one good and one bad message......
first the bad: the pollination of my flowering namaquensis hastn´t worked....the "stem" ist drying out...
(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1545/namaflowerzq9.th.jpg) (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namaflowerzq9.jpg)
Here the good news:
now i can be sure that the plant is Haemanthus namaquensis, here you can see the undulated leaves:
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/932/haem1gs4.th.jpg) (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haem1gs4.jpg)
Here is my second plant, the leaves are also undulated (the plant make leaves but no flowers... :'()
(http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9624/nama2ua6.th.jpg) (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nama2ua6.jpg)
Best wishes
Bernie
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Ah, well, Bernie, at least there is SOME good news! ;) ;D 8)
A question to you and the other amaryllid fans here: Do you think that the pollination may have failed because this was a young plant?
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Hello Maggi,
the plants are not young, the bulbs are yeryyery big for Haemanthus namaquensis & i think they are flowering sized since many years.
I think that this spezies (and some others) is not self fertile
:(
...but i have pollen in my freezer and hope the second plant will flower 2009.
Greetings from snowy bavaria
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Bernie, thank you for that explanation.
Good to have the pollen stored for next time!
Greetings to snowy Bavaria from windy North East Scotland!
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I've only flwered Haemanthus coccineus and albiflos as yet, but both of those I have found to be mostly self sterile. 2 clones of the species and you can set seed to your hearts content, but a single clone, not matter how many flowers of it, I find usually will not set any seed for me. I have about a half dozen different clones of H. coccineus out at the moment, but haven't hand pollinated this year as I always get so man yseeds that I don't know what to do with them! ::)
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Hello again,
now im sure that my plants are Haemanthus namaquensis, look at the undulated leaves:
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2204/gewelltxc1.th.jpg) (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gewelltxc1.jpg)
;D
Kind regards
Bernie
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Bernie,
I love those leaves! The undulations are very cool! 8)
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Hans,
They are sooo special!. Could this be grown just like a Clivia, or is it more tender or needs less water?.
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Hi all ,
here has startet with flowering my Haemanthus now
first is
Haemanthus X clarkei
this flower is in this year really different to last year - much more red and much longer !
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Hi all :D
new flowers today :
Haemanthus coccineus ( a younger plant )
this plant had no water all summer long -now after first watering on 01.September ;D
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Hi all :D
new flowers today :
Haemanthus coccineus ( a younger plant )
this plant had no water all summer long -now after first watering on 01.September ;D
This illustrates so well the utter MAGIC of bulbs, doesn't it? 8)
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That is lovely Hans.
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Thanks Maggi and David !
I'm really surpised that such young plants flowers - there is hope !!!
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Hans, congratulations for those Haemanthus.
Last year I was very happy when mine bloomed, but this year it happened one thing very strange: one of the bulbs was about to start growing the flowers, but in some days it aborted.
I think the bulb it's ok, but i don't have any idea about what could have happened.
Did it happened to you also?
The other two bulbs did not shown yet signs of flowers.
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Cris ,
Haemanthus are like some other Amaryllidaceae often a bit crazy .....
One of my big Haem. coccineus has not flowered in this year - I suppose he need all his power because he build a big second bulb .
In any case you have to wait with watering until the buds are big enough -otherwise they will stop and abort the flower
You have to stop with watering for the whole time when this bulbs are dormant -I take it in my greenhouse under the tables ....( please think there are also summer -and winter growing species )
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In any case you have to wait with watering until the buds are big enough -otherwise they will stop and abort the flower
You have to stop with watering for the whole time when this bulbs are dormant
There must be maybe a situation like you said. Sometimes I gave them a bit of water. I was afraid to warm (dry) the roots without any water ::)
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It might be of interest for Haemanthus lovers what I showed today
in the Weekly Flowershow in Lisse NL.
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Luit ,
do you take photos ?
thank you in advance
Hans
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Luit ,
do you take photos ?
Hans
Hans, is it possible that I don't understand your question?
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Luit ,
sorry for my bad english ....
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Hans,my Friend, I think you have misunderstood Luit, and he you! .... he has made many photos here, from Sept. 23rd .... in these pages .....http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.msg56441#msg56441 8)
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Yes Maggi - it was a real missunderstanding !!!
I have supposed that Luit give a suggestion for all Haemanthus lovers go to Lisse to see the Haemathus flowers ...so I ask to him with make pics .....
Now I have realized that he has postet so many nice pics ....
Thank you for clearing and the link !
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Hans,my Friend, I think you have misunderstood Luit, and he you! .... he has made many photos here, from Sept. 23rd .... in these pages .....http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.msg56441#msg56441 8)
Well Maggi, in the meantime we have corresponded by PM in German.
Just finished an answer to Hans and found your help right now. Thanks a lot for that! :-*
I was so arrogant to think that all Forumists were looking to my reports, which is
seemingly not the case... ??? ;D ;D
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Hans,my Friend, I think you have misunderstood Luit, and he you! .... he has made many photos here, from Sept. 23rd .... in these pages .....http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1315.msg56441#msg56441 8)
I was so arrogant to think that all Forumists were looking to my reports, which is
seemingly not the case... ??? ;D ;D
Luit
Not arrogant - forumists who want to see wonderful plants and good info would not miss your postings :) 8) :)
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Luit,
A lot of people view these forums via email, so they often don't see new topics that are started unless they come up and view it on the main site. Periodically someone posts to a topic that has been going for a long time, saying something along the lines of "I've only just found this topic".... sometimes there can be 10 pages of the topic, some of which is months old. I'd imagine there are a lot of people that NEVER see a topic that may be of interest to them, because they just rely on the email notification for existing topics instead. They must miss so much.
Then there are others of us who don't catch up on everything immediately, but usually eventually get to it. Sometimes it takes a while. ::)
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Paul,
My email notification ALWAYS includes new topics. I view them and decide which (almost all) I want to follow.
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Luit,
A lot of people view these forums via email, so they often don't see new topics that are started unless they come up and view it on the main site. Periodically someone posts to a topic that has been going for a long time, saying something along the lines of "I've only just found this topic".... sometimes there can be 10 pages of the topic, some of which is months old. I'd imagine there are a lot of people that NEVER see a topic that may be of interest to them, because they just rely on the email notification for existing topics instead. They must miss so much.
Then there are others of us who don't catch up on everything immediately, but usually eventually get to it. Sometimes it takes a while. ::)
I never use the email notification. I tried it when I came into this Forum in ± 2003, but it didn't work.
I missed to much or I had loads of emails to delete.
I just look at replies to my posts and then at unread post since last visit, when time allows.
Lately I did spend more time with posting than reading new items.
But all will agree that it is hardly possible to read everything.
But I noticed that , when using "unread post since last visit" it is possible that I missed more than once some very interesting new threads.
But often after some time somebody is posting in such a thread and I find it later.
When I saw this thread in the list I thought it was an old thread of this summer, but then
suddenly I saw that is was new.
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Hi Luit et al,
By far the easiest way to keep up with 'all' postings (especially if you visit the forum every few days or less), is to utilise the 'View the most recent posts on the forum' link at the bottom of the HOME page - under 'Forum Stats'.
Even if one has been away for a week or ten days then it is quite simple to scan through the ten or so pages that will appear.
I tend to check the forum three or four times a day (an addict perhaps) and always use this facility - it is so quick and you never miss a topic.
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or click Show unread posts since last visit. just below "hello ......"
I have ticked for updates on everything but many go by unnoticed for some reason
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Hi Luit et al,
By far the easiest way to keep up with 'all' postings (especially if you visit the forum every few days or less), is to utilise the 'View the most recent posts on the forum' link at the bottom of the HOME page - under 'Forum Stats'.
Even if one has been away for a week or ten days then it is quite simple to scan through the ten or so pages that will appear.
Cliff, I did try this too, but I did read several texts and thought it not so of interest, so missed
a lot of very interesting pictures.
So you have to click every message as well, otherwise....
I tend to check the forum three or four times a day (an addict perhaps) and always use this facility - it is so quick and you never miss a topic.
Sounds familiar, Cliff ;D ;D
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Hi all ,
here has startet my season with flowerin of Haemanthus albiflos -the first one is a unusual plant which I have receive before two years from a botanical garden .
It is pretty different from my other H.albiflos : very broad leaves and only few leaves and very early....maybe also such a triploid form which Luit has shown in his pics from Lisse ....
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Just flowering now, Haemanthus deformis
Before flowering :
(http://i74.servimg.com/u/f74/11/84/35/03/img_7511.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=344&u=11843503)
and flowering :
(http://i74.servimg.com/u/f74/11/84/35/03/img_7510.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=342&u=11843503)
And I agree with a previous message : I never could get any seeds from one plant of H. coccineus; I think we need 2 clones to get seeds.
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Very attractive Fred, both before and in flower. Thanks for posting.
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For me, Fred, the true magic is in your first photo..... a work of art.... both in the plant and this portrait... thank you!
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Fred.
Wow!! That is one I HAVE to find at some point. A real stunner! 8) Thanks for the great pics.
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And I agree with a previous message : I never could get any seeds from one plant of H. coccineus; I think we need 2 clones to get seeds.
Fred :
In last year it was possibly to produce from my single plant of H. coccineus 3 seeds - look here are the seedlings today ( sown : 16.November 2007 )
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Great Hans,
but it seems you are THE Haemanthus specialist ! :D :P
And I suppose you had several plants flowering at the same time ?
My Haemanthus coccineus doesn't want to produce any seed but I think it will divide this year !
Fred
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Fred ,
I'm far from being a specialist for Haemanthus ......I need too many species ( which are near impossible to get )....p.e. I do not have such a nice H.deformis :'( ....
No - it was a single plant which has flowered in 2007 -please look here :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=727.msg16572#msg16572
that's the motherplant of this seedlings
but I never had success with Haemanthus X clarkei
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Hans,
I just had a look on your 2007 posts and ... thank's for pictures of flowers and seedlings !
H. x Clarkei is really nice..
I'll try to keep some H. albiflos pollen in the fridge for the next year and try to crosse it with H. coccineus.
Wait...and see ;D
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Hi Fred ,
Good luck with your cross ;D
I hope you will also get seeds from your H. deformis ::)
Have a nice weekend
Hans
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I'll try to keep some H. albiflos pollen in the fridge for the next year and try to crosse it with H. coccineus.
Hi Hans,
When you want to keep pollen from daffodils and snowdrops over a longer period it must be stored in a freezer (Gefrierschrank) instead in a fridge.
Is there another method recommended for (sub) tropical Amarillydaceae?
Gerd
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Hi Gerd ,
Sorry but I have no expirience with storing pollen of Amaryllidaceae -I have it never tried .
My expierence is only for storing pollen of Cacti -this works fine .
I made the pollen on a Q -tip - than in a box for dia films and put it in our fridge ( Kühlschrank ) - the importet is after my expierence that the pollen must have room temperature before using it -if it is to cool it works not .
I have produce many seeds of Cacti on this way !
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Ok Gerdk,
I'll freeze it 8)
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Sorry if my contribution here looks like I had much experience with storing pollen.
I only repeated what I have read for Galanthus and Narcissus.
So please be careful with freezing pollen of other genera.
Of course the pollen has to be dry before and after storage.
Hans, how long do you keep the cacti pollen in the fridge before you use it?
I would be glad if some forumists with more experience will add their know-how here!
Gerd
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Gerd ,
I have stored the pollen of cacti only for weeks ( for one flowering season ).
Maybe you should start a own topic with of pollen .....maybe other members looks not under Haemanthus
Hans
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Fred,
Why not store your pollen from the Haemanthus coccineus and then put it onto the albiflos in the same season, as well as storing some of the albiflos pollen from this year for the coccineus when it flowers next year. I have stored pollen dry from coccineus in March (southern hemisphere) and used it on albiflos in April the same year. I didn't even refridgerate it, just left it in a plastic bag with the paintbrush I was using to collect it. Doing it this way care must be taken that the pollen is dry of course. I had seed set, but unfortunately lost the seedhead to a bird of something at one point, so I know the pollen was still viable.
I'd still be collecting albiflos pollen this season if you've got it, but also consider trying the cross the opposite way around next year as well. It can't hurt, and you definitely wouldn't need to "long term" store the pollen if you were just taking it from one month to the next.
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You're right Paul !
I'll try both ways ::)
Anyway, I'll have to wait some months to start >:( :( ;)
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I stored the pollen of dysosma for a couple of months in the fridge ,like Hans, in a film container. I pulled of the complete anthers and stored those. When I finally used it it produced very good seeds. Germination is awaited.
My only thought on the haemanthus is that they are not hardy and I would be concerned as to whether freezing would kill the pollen. The two genus that Gerd mentions are hardy and often subject to frost when in flower.
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I don't think that frost could kill the pollen...
but I'm not sure too ;D
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Friends, as was suggested earlier in this thread, I have opened a new page to discuss pollen storage, in the Seed growing section, where more people may read it. Of you ahve any mre comments to make about the method of storing pollen( and preparing pollen for use over a period of time) please make those comments in the NEW thread... it is here:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2726.msg63056#new
"Storing Pollen"
Thank you,
M
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I have moved some posts about Scadoxus from here to the appropriate page :
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2008.15
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Here is Haemanthus pauculifolius, similar to H. albiflos but smaller in all parts, and less vigourous.
(http://i74.servimg.com/u/f74/11/84/35/03/img_2915.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=359&u=11843503)
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Nice, Fred. Very nice.