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Title: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on January 19, 2008, 09:12:32 PM
After snowdrops,snowdrops,snowdrops,bickering and much antagonism ;time for some hepaticas to lighten the mood.The first picture is of several pots of 5yr.old plants from seed of one called 'TAMADORI'.Not a great one but the first named one that I bought and nothing like the description.Then one called 'DAISAIHOU' followed by 'TAMAMUSHI'  and 'Oriheme'.The rest are all singles grown from seed of my own collection.Hope they lift your spirits.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on January 19, 2008, 09:27:16 PM
My goodness, John what a super display for January... more than enough to lighten any spirits, I would think :D   As you know, I'm not  a great fan of doubles but when I see these little beauties, my hard old heart softens quite nicely...... :-X
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: snowdropman on January 19, 2008, 09:32:16 PM
John - what a gorgeous flower that pink one ('TAMAMUSHI' ?) is - thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: mark smyth on January 19, 2008, 10:31:37 PM
Yours are week or more ahead of my collection's early flowerers. What's the top dressing? I like it.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on January 19, 2008, 10:39:46 PM
Like Anthony, I planted my expensive double hepaticas out in the garden, as advised by the seller, where they pined and away and disappeared despite my best attentions (I promise I didn't loose such expensive things without a struggle!)

I think Anthony said last year that he lost his too after following the advice not to cossett them in pots. And like Anthony, if I'm ever in the financial position to afford replacements, they're staying in pots - they were fine in pots under glass 'till I put them out!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on January 19, 2008, 10:47:23 PM
I wondered why my post vanished right in front of my eyes. Then I thought "Maggi...new 2008 thread..."
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on January 19, 2008, 11:02:46 PM
I love the way you have to rush about to find me!  The exercise is good for us!
I did post a redirection notice in the old page  ::)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on January 19, 2008, 11:08:14 PM
It was all a bit disorientating, Maggi, and I was fearing for my sanity. I posted, the old page from 2007 came up with my post but without the new postings and the recent pics from John, so I went to 'home' and then back to the thread only to find my posting had disappeared too. That's when I twigged you were moving the furniture around. Then I got the message about the new thread and voila!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on January 19, 2008, 11:11:42 PM
Martin, I haven't moved the viola, only the double bass and the french horn.......
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on January 19, 2008, 11:26:01 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on January 19, 2008, 11:31:19 PM
Top dressing is fine Cambark
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: annew on January 20, 2008, 09:49:05 AM
Beautiful hepaticas! They make a fantastic splash of colour for this time of year when most other things are green and white (OK crocuses aren't). Pity they can't be twin-scaled though! Mind you, you can't do that with crocus either. Off to crocus thread....
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Rob on January 20, 2008, 11:19:05 AM
It's great to have a new hepatica thread.

Here are a couple from my garden.

Looking at Johns plants I think I will have to start growing some inside.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Brian Ellis on January 20, 2008, 03:20:16 PM
Some lovely hepaticas to relieve the white of the galanthus thread!  I wish I had had my camera when I went to Rod Leeds last year as he has a glasshouse full of hepaticas which put on an equally sumptious display.  I do have the 'ordinary' hepatica growing outside and it survives - that's about the best you can say.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 20, 2008, 05:01:46 PM
Beautiful display so early in the season John !
You shouldn't be so modest about "the rest" - being some single seedlings.... they look super as well !
Hope to see lots more in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on January 20, 2008, 09:22:23 PM
beautiful plants John.
I have 3 photos of my japanese plant I showed last year, you can see it on the old thread page nine, it looks almost a different plant. I have seen that with a lot of plants, if you divide the plant sometimes you have to wait one or two years to see the same flower. My japanese friend told me that in Japan they make divisions and than some doubles make singel flowers with pistels and pollen and than you can make some new crossings.

See here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=49.120
 Reply #125 on: February 27, 2007, 01:08:21 PM »
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 22, 2008, 07:34:10 PM
Beautiful shades of pink Chris ! Gorgeous flowers.

Here's a simple H. nobilis from a batch of seedlings (Chris, you may recognize it...  ;D) - if flowers it's heart out on stems, barely 2 to 3 cm long - all the others from the batch have normal 8 to 10 cm stems.

Too bad I can't produce the blue in my pix as good as it looks like in the real world.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on January 22, 2008, 07:38:58 PM
Lovely, Luc and I'm sure I can exactly see the "proper" blue in my mind's eye 8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 22, 2008, 07:40:33 PM
Maggi,
Not with these sunglasses you can't  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on January 23, 2008, 10:42:55 PM
Great pics everyone.  John G ..... you must be pleased with those single seedlings.  Beautiful!!  The named doubles of course are spectacular, just so perfectly formed.  8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on January 24, 2008, 08:15:41 PM
A few hours of warm sunshine is working wonders with the hepaticas.Hepatica pubescens 'Tenbingai' is not everybody's favourite because of its lax growth but to compensate it is very floriferlous and very pretty at close quarters.I show three pictures to demonstrate its habit.Apart from Benikanzan the others are grown from my own seed and for the sharp eyed you will notice petal damage.I purposely left these on to see if anyone else suffers this damage.I have had it for the last few years always on the earliest flowers and I suspect that it takes place while the flower is in bud as well as after the petals have expanded.I have tried various insecticides as well as surounding individual pots with sticky yellow card in case some insect was crawling up the pots i.e.earwigs but to no avail.Can anyone throw any light on to my problem?
I have botched up the picture postings and don't know how to remove the first two pictures but perhaps Maggie may come to the rescue ?
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Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on January 24, 2008, 08:29:26 PM
The final picture shows a 3ltr.pot containing 15 seedlings sown in April 04 just starting to show their first flowers although one cannot judge them in their first couple of years.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Rob on January 24, 2008, 09:40:47 PM
John my favourite is the stripey purple from your own seed.

I've got no idea on the petal damage, it doesn't look bad enough to be a caterpillar or earwig crawling into the pot.

Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on January 24, 2008, 09:51:44 PM
beautiful plants John, especially the H.jap.'Benikanzan'. How old is your crossing H.yam.x H.jap.
here tree plants in my alpine house:2 japanese and one cross H.jap.x H.nobilis,
I saw some damage too on some of my plants, here I think it is the changing temperatures, in bud it was verry cold and the plants stopped growing for a while
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on January 24, 2008, 11:19:06 PM
Hello, John, sorry to have kept you waiting, been busy elsewhere this evening..... I'll knock off the first pics for you now. Lovely Hepaticas.... saw the first in this area out with Lily dog this morning, about half a mile away, a garden with a huge old clump... could do with a bit of attention, since there are fewer flowers every year though the clump gets bigger.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on January 24, 2008, 11:20:22 PM
Chris, I am  excited about seeing what you will have to show us this year.... I hope they are all happy in their new hepatica house?!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 25, 2008, 07:51:45 AM
Chris,
I find that Jap x nobilis cross verrrrrrrrrry beautiful indeed !  Great contrast
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: gote on January 25, 2008, 09:21:59 AM
Very beautiful and very early.
I have lost my "foreign" Hepaticas planted out in the garden.
This in spite of my tens of thousands native ones growing wild on the premises.
(Unfortunately they do not make the show they could since the deer eat them.)
It seems to me that the Japanese and Chinese Hepaticas do need pot culture in Europe.
It is a little strange since so  many other woodlanders from the area grow well in our woods.
Göte
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: mark smyth on January 25, 2008, 09:43:55 AM
all very nice looking. This year I plan to cross nobilis with maximus after seeing the lovely hybrid a year or two ago on the web site
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on January 25, 2008, 07:27:04 PM
Chris,nice pics.I love the subtle colouring of 'Saichou'.Did you manage to firm up a visit to the Hepatica Day at Wisley in March ?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on January 26, 2008, 07:41:26 AM
yes John I ordered my ticket (didnt recived it yet), it will be nice to see you there,
here two others with the first flower: H.'Tinkinsyo' and one with the description white double pink centre
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on January 26, 2008, 05:01:27 PM
Chris,Both very nice.I received my ticket by return of post two days after the event was announced.I look forward to meeting you there.
 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: kalle-k.dk on January 27, 2008, 04:36:35 PM
What a beautiful plants.

Our Hepatica is begun flower in the greenhouse for 14 days ago. In the garden, the nobilis will begin in the next couple of weeks.

Karl Kristensen.
Denmark.
www.kalle-k.dk 
Hepatica jap. Gosyozakura
 Hepatica jap. Ochimizuno Haru
 Hepatica jap. Tamamushi
 Hepatica jap. Tougen


Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on January 27, 2008, 04:39:41 PM
I wish you Hepatica growers would stop it, these pictures are making me drool ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Rob on January 27, 2008, 05:50:21 PM
It's great to see all the exotic Hepatica jap, if I get a greenhouse then I'll start collecting them.

In the meantime here is a plain nobilis looking good in the garden

Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on January 27, 2008, 06:14:09 PM
My hepatica have started to move this weekend with a little sun today. 

A few of my own seedlings first

japonica single white/lilac with dark anthers
pyrenaica pinky large
white with red anthers
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on January 27, 2008, 06:18:41 PM
And 3 nice japs
Suien
Echigobijin - starts dark pink then turns an odd shade of pink (2 pix)
Lost the name (!) stunning dark pink single (last pic)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on January 27, 2008, 07:01:44 PM
Great stuff everyone !!  8)
What a variation in flowers !  ::)
Thanks a lot for sharing !
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on January 27, 2008, 07:18:59 PM
 My chin is even sorer now ;D

Lovely plants Diane and a very pretty and effective picture Rob.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on January 28, 2008, 12:03:54 PM
Fantastic everyone.  I particularly love the doubles from Karl, and Diane's almost reds.  Beautiful!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Gunhild Poulsen on February 02, 2008, 06:07:17 PM
My first flowering Hepatica in the garden - and with snow on the ground.
It's 'Saichou', a Japanese so called Sandan type - a type that
I like very much.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on February 02, 2008, 08:47:34 PM
Beautiful, Gunhild!!  8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on February 02, 2008, 09:49:31 PM
A most ethereal flower, Gunhild, very pretty.

Has everyone seen the Hepatica in the new Wisley Log? http://www.srgc.org.uk/wisley/2008/020208/log.html
Hepatica nobilis var. japonica - yellow flowered form....... lovely!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 08, 2008, 06:57:04 PM
A few Hepatica in bloom today
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on February 08, 2008, 09:31:02 PM
A few more hepaticas for those interested
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on February 08, 2008, 09:34:22 PM
This should have been the first picture and is 'Tenginbai' not the one with the caption which is an un-named seedling
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on February 08, 2008, 09:41:21 PM
hi all, verry nice plants
here are tho photos of my H.'Saichou', Gunhild
John, here the pale form I told you about
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Armin on February 08, 2008, 09:57:38 PM
Hi et all,
amazing color spectacle! :o
Ytd never thought this species would be so variable. ???
Must study more closer... :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on February 08, 2008, 10:03:19 PM
Lovely photos everyone!!  Chris, those last two in particular are beautiful!!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on February 09, 2008, 01:34:08 PM
I seem to be liking the stronger colours this year  ??? Perhaps because the winter seems long, if not so very harsh..... Michael's first deep red is lovely and John G's  No. 043 is so simple yet so striking a shade. Lovely!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Gunhild Poulsen on February 09, 2008, 02:46:55 PM
Fine Chris - now the photos (yours and mine) shows 'Saishou' in three different stages, from unfold to fall.

What lovely plants and colours Michael and John.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Gunhild Poulsen on February 09, 2008, 08:26:53 PM
I'l like to show you the changing of my 'Kagura'.
Photo no. 2 shows it the year after dividing, where it has changed to a single flower with stamens and pistils.
It says that this is the autonomous conservation activities in the nature.
I will try to pollinate it with another with similar genes, and se what comes out.
I hope and belive that it next year will change back and be as photo no. 1.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 10, 2008, 10:27:05 AM
Weird isn't it - looks like another plant !  ???
Very nice though Gunhild !
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on February 10, 2008, 11:36:37 AM
Gunhild,

Good luck with the seedlings.  Here's hoping you can get some new doubles there.  Keep your fingers crossed!!!!  Hopefully in a couple of years we can congratulate you on your new double seedlings.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on February 10, 2008, 08:47:57 PM
Gunhild, I cross the H.'Kagura' with H.Imaizumi' and with a picotee form, in tree or four years I hope to show the results.
here some other plants, the flower of H.'Hohobeni' is verry small only 1cm across.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Armin on February 10, 2008, 08:50:09 PM
Stunning - this little cuties :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on February 10, 2008, 09:21:17 PM
Chris,

The tiny one is spectacular, and of course the double!  ;D  Beautiful pics.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on February 10, 2008, 11:18:43 PM
Nice pics.Chris.I ordered Hohobeni two years ago from Paul Christian but it didn't materialise.However,I did manage to obtain the double form which is nothing like the single.I thought the single would be bigger than 1 cm.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 11, 2008, 08:12:02 AM
Beautiful little series Chris !  8)
Hohobeni is absolutely unique ! What a treasure !  :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: hadacekf on February 11, 2008, 10:41:06 AM
   
Beautiful hepaticas Chris, I have no luck in my garden with these beautiful plants.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on February 11, 2008, 07:42:01 PM
here two others: H.'Hokkiko' and H.'Yu-zuru'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on February 12, 2008, 12:25:19 AM
Wow on both counts.  Just amazing.  Such a shame these things are rarely if ever brought into Australia, and that the doubles don't set seed so their seedlings can't come in.  A definite thrill to see the pics of them here to enjoy though, as they are just beautiful!!

Fantastic pics.  Thanks so much.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 13, 2008, 08:09:27 PM
A few Hepatica today

1 Japonica, sorry out of focus too late to get another shot
2 japonica orihime
3 Transylvanica blue jewell
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on February 13, 2008, 08:19:49 PM
'Blue Jewel' is a lovely colour.....very elegant.
You have got lots of good things coming into flower now, Michael...good to see all these posts from you... thanks!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on February 16, 2008, 08:51:36 PM
Some more coming into flower here
H nobilis rubra plena
H japonica Izumo
H japonica unnamed double of palest pink
H japonica a good unnamed double pink
H Millstream Merlin doing well this year much earlier than usual for me


Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on February 17, 2008, 05:58:30 PM
Diane, I like the blue of Millstream Merlin, but also the pastel of Izumo,
here three in flower here:
H.nobilis
H.'Tosen
a double white pink only known as sp.CE
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on February 17, 2008, 06:47:36 PM
sorry I showed sp.E instead of sp.C
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on February 17, 2008, 08:10:09 PM
Chris,I love both of the species that you show.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Gunhild Poulsen on February 18, 2008, 10:20:09 PM
Here are some japonica and a noblis in blue/violet shades
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 22, 2008, 05:45:07 PM
A few Hepatica in bloom today.

Hepatica Japonica Anjyu.
Hepatica Japonica Orihime.
Hepatica Nobilis blue.
Hepatica Nobilis pink.
Hepatica nobilis lavender.


Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on February 22, 2008, 05:52:16 PM
Is there any wonder that these little plants are so popular?  Are yours all pot grown so you can give them a bit of winter protection, Michael?
We are getting a few flowers out now in Aberdeen... but horrible day today with freezing wind and hail.... not good for gardener nor plant :'(
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 22, 2008, 06:20:56 PM
Yes Maggi,they are all in pots because I have to put them at the back of the potting shed for the summer,as it is the only place with enough shade at that time. It can get very hot here in the summer, if we get one, sometimes 30C
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on February 22, 2008, 06:26:35 PM
At €35 a nose I would not chance planting them out in the garden.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on February 22, 2008, 07:00:25 PM
I don't think they  do that well out in the garden, here at least. "Ordinary" ones do okay, but nothing like the potfuls I see from  the likes of David Boyd.
 Luckily, the flowers are so pretty that even one or two isa fine rward for me!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Gunhild Poulsen on February 23, 2008, 07:44:47 PM
Considering that it’s only February, there is a lot of my Hepatica flowering in the garden, much earlier than they use to.
Here are some photos from to day
japonica ‘Kanzashi’
japonica red seedling - from lilac parents
pubescens
pubescens ‘Tsumabeni’
japonica ‘Tamamushi’ much darker than last year
japonica ‘Tougen’
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on February 23, 2008, 07:51:12 PM
Gunhild, are you sure these are real flowers and not pretty icing sugar confections that you have sculpted??  ;)
The H. pubescens with the pink edge is glorious.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: art600 on February 23, 2008, 11:41:55 PM
Gunhild

The hepaticas are exquisite and your website needs hours to fully enjoy.  What a wonderful garden
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on February 23, 2008, 11:58:24 PM
Quote
The hepaticas are exquisite and your website needs hours to fully enjoy.  What a wonderful garden
I agree, Arthur  8)
 Can I take this chance to remind readers to keep an eye open  to spot Forumists' website addresses, usually shown in the 'signature'  area to the foot of a post .... like this is Gunhild's case:
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http://www.gtpoulsen.dk
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or in the case of Chris  Vermeire:
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Chris Vermeire
www.veen-helleborus.be
Zomergem
Belgium
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Many Forumists have extensive websites, showcasing their gardens or special plant interests  or even Nurseries  and these constitute a useful resource - I commend them to you  8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on February 24, 2008, 08:24:18 PM
The typical Austrian Leberblümchen. Lots of them are growing  behind my house and the photos show wild grown seedlings from them in my garden. The last one is growing in concrete!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on February 25, 2008, 09:29:15 PM
Here are a few pics.taken in my hepatica house to-day.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on February 25, 2008, 10:01:40 PM
WOW, these are THE pots. Very, very beautiful.

Would you like to show us the Prunus? as well.
It looks like you have them there to make a little shade over
the Hepatica's.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: mark smyth on February 25, 2008, 10:23:51 PM
John what are the Prunus and how do you get them to flower so well?

I Ashwoods yesterday I picked up some great colours but they have no match to what has been shown already. John Massey is now concentrating his own interests on Hepaticas. We spent so much time in his garden we didnt have time to look at his breeding programme
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Martin Baxendale on February 25, 2008, 10:25:28 PM
Absolutely stunning, John! Your superbly grown plants almost make me want to cry when I recall how I followed the seller's advice to plant my own expensive Japanese hepaticas in the garden rather than cossett them in pots. Following that advice was the most expensive mistake of my gardening life! The annoying thing is, I did grow them in clay pots to start with, just in case - then when they were good strong clumps I planted them out in the garden, only to watch them rapidly disappear in the first drought summer that came along. I see amongst your excellent plants some of the very cultivars I used to have before following that stupid advice.  >:(
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 26, 2008, 08:15:28 AM
 :o :o :o

John, I've never seen anything like this !
What a mass of unequalled beauty - I bet some of these plants are over 15 years old !  :o

Truely wonderful and a great idea to make the Prunus add to the beauty !
Thanks so much for sharing this.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on February 26, 2008, 10:43:59 AM
Thanks eveyone for the kind comments,its nice to be able to share my pleasure with you all and to answer your questions,I started to grow the the jap.hepaticas in 1999 so none are more than eight years old.The prunus is P.incisa 'KOJO-NO-MAI' and naturally flowers prolifically and better still is readily available in all garden centres,particularly at this time of year when it will shortly be coming into blossom outside.I have one in a tub on the terrace just showing colour.I grow the ones in pots purely to add to the picture in the hepatica house as they seem to compliment each other so well.The shade is not required at this time of the year but neither does it do any harm.When the prunus are further out I will try and remember to take another picture.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 26, 2008, 12:42:48 PM
Unbelievable that none of these prolific jap. hepaticas is over 7 or 8 years old    :o :o You certainly know how to please them John !
Don't hesitate to show us more  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on February 26, 2008, 01:01:40 PM
That is really unbelievable John. You must have a good hand for them.
The Prunus could on the picture be anything and probably Japanese.
I have it in my garden but will take some time before start flowering.
Still one question: do you leave them yearround in the glasshouse or in summer
outside or under the table?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Gunhild Poulsen on February 26, 2008, 01:58:31 PM
WOW John - what a house. How many different sorts are representing?
Do you ever divide them? repot? fertilice?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: mark smyth on February 26, 2008, 04:46:16 PM
My P incisa never flower like yours. They are about 6 years old
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Hans A. on February 26, 2008, 05:47:12 PM
Hello John- just fantastic :o - I have never seen such a Hepaticashow.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on February 26, 2008, 07:35:26 PM
Luit,the hepaticas are left under glass permanently but are heavily shaded from early Spring to October coupled with maximum ventilation.There are about thirty or so named japonicas and the rest are from my own seed but of no particular merit with the odd exception.I pot-on or re-pot every other year normally and I feed N.from now on when the leaves are showing and P.in the Autumn/Late Winter.I think that's answered all the queries.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on February 26, 2008, 08:43:06 PM
hello John, congratulations, now I now for sure that I will wait also 2 years to repot my plants and dont make to much divisions because that gives small plants with maximum 10 flowers or so, here outside a lot of Hepaticas are flowering one of them is H.trans.'Elison Spence'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on February 26, 2008, 08:50:22 PM
Lovely Lady, this Elison Spence, Chris  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on February 28, 2008, 07:56:52 PM
here H.'Petersen' outsite on a sheltered possition and 2 japanese in the alpine house

Hepatica 'Petersen'
Hepatica japonica 'Fusei'
H. jap. 'Kimihiko'
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Diane Clement on February 28, 2008, 08:53:35 PM
here H.'Petersen' outsite on a sheltered possition and 2 japanese in the alpine house

Hepatica 'Petersen'
Hepatica japonica 'Fusei'
H. jap. 'Kimihiko'

Chris
The correct name for the plant you have as "Kimihiko is "Junisen".  At the time, I did not know the name, so I labelled it as "kimihiko" which is the name of my friend who gave it to me (he's the same friend who brought the Japanese frits).  I have since found out the cultivar name, which is "Junisen".  Japanese cultivars with "sen" in the name mean they are a full double as "sen" means "thousand" (as in thousand petals).
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on February 28, 2008, 09:27:39 PM
For Luit,Here are the pics.of Kojo-no-mai that you requested and  what I consider to be a particularly good form of
pyrenaica 'Appleblossom' that I have raised from seed.It probably isn't evident seen by itself but it really stands out
in the crowd and is 3cms.accross when fully expanded.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on February 28, 2008, 09:31:16 PM
Sorry!!I posted the same picture twice.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Lvandelft on February 28, 2008, 10:07:48 PM
Sorry!!I posted the same picture twice.

Thank you John!
No problem looking twice at a nice picture!    :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Armin on February 29, 2008, 06:58:53 PM
John and all,
great show - always!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Katrin Lugerbauer on March 02, 2008, 04:55:25 PM
Hello,
Hepatica season has started in Austria too.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on March 02, 2008, 06:29:16 PM
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Hepatica season has started in Austria too.
So it has, Katrin, and with beautiful photos, thank you!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on March 02, 2008, 09:15:21 PM
thanks Diane for the corect name, here two plants with big flowers 3cm across
Title: Hepatica Spectacular
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on March 04, 2008, 08:45:19 AM
A reminder that our "Hepatica Spectacular" display of hepaticas starts this Saturday at Wisley. Our intention is to fill the whole house with hepaticas. We have been biting our nails with so many plants flowering so early this year - wondering if we would have any left to display. But many have lasted well so we should be able to still mount a good display, though it is possible we may not fill the entire house - we won't be sure until the next couple of days of work preparing the exhibit is done.

Anyone able to get to Wisley can see the display from This Saturday 8 March, running until Sunday 16th. Please note that in order to set up the exhibit, the Alpine House will be closed from Weds 5th to Friday 7th March, and closed again from Mon 17th to Weds 19th March while we dismantle it again and reinstall our normal display of alpines. We may also close the house at times on Sat 15th March so that those attending the lecture day can be given a guided tour of the exhibit.

We look forward to seeing as many of you as possible over the next 10 days! - but for those who can't make it, I will make the Wisley Log following the event an Hepatica Special with lots of pictures of as many plants as I find time to photograph

Paul

Paul
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: art600 on March 04, 2008, 09:20:47 AM
Paul

Will there be a chance to see 'behind the hedge' on Sunday March 16th, when the Fritophiles descend on Wisley?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on March 04, 2008, 09:27:05 AM
Hi Arthur,
Sorry but not on this occasion, staff are too wrapped up with the Hepatica event. But we usually bring over to the meeting whatever Frits are in flower and add them to the display so you will see all the good ones anyway.

Paul
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on March 14, 2008, 03:07:02 PM
I know that Paul will have pictures of the Wisley Hepatica Display on a Log in the near future but for those who can't wait there are a few pictures on the thread 'A Visit to Wisley March 2008' on the General Pages.
Title: Re: Hepaticas at Wisley
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on March 14, 2008, 07:26:16 PM
Thanks David, it was good to meet you. I sent my Log up this morning and Fred usually manages to put it on the site for me within a day or so, so watch out for it - it has lots of Hepatica pictures from our event!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on March 15, 2008, 10:17:40 PM
For those who can't wait here are a few pics from the Hepatica Spectacular at Wisley today.In the absence of a tri-pod most were
taken with the aid of flash which I normally try to avoid.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on March 15, 2008, 10:19:59 PM
I'm going to bed now and will post the remainder tomorrow when you have got over the sickness.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on March 16, 2008, 10:27:04 AM
Here are the remainder of the pics.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on March 16, 2008, 10:29:39 AM
and finally
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on March 16, 2008, 03:07:17 PM
A great series from John there... mouthwatering selection and I have just got back from work to find that the Wisley  Hepatica Special Log is online!    http://www.srgc.org.uk/wisley/2008/160308/log.html

 Wow!  If these plants can't make your heart beat faster, you're probably already dead  :-X
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Peter Maguire on March 17, 2008, 10:57:22 AM
Just wanted to thank Paul, Lucie and all the staff at Wisley for laying on a great display in the alpine house and a wonderful event on the Saturday. I'll post some of my 200 odd pictrues form the weekend when I get home (I'm currently meant to be 'working') and try not to duplicate Paul and John's photos.

It was a great weekend - my first visit to Wisley and I spent all Friday afternoon and Saturday there until the light failed, and rounded it off with a visit to the RHS orchid show on the Sunday (Chris Vermeire was also there). A weekend of sheer indulgence, and much better than repairing the fence in the garden that the recent storms flattened.

Peter
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 17, 2008, 05:16:59 PM
Superb shots John !
Thanks very much for letting us taste of all the beauty we had to miss...
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on March 17, 2008, 07:39:30 PM
I will thank the whole staff who worked for this fantastic day at Wisley, thank you John, also for showing the photo's mine where not so good, I normally always use a tripod, now most of the pictures are not sharp enouch, it was verry fine to talk with all the people there with the same intrests and the plants for sale from Ashwood and Edrom where beautiful,

Chris
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on March 17, 2008, 08:28:05 PM
John,

Great series.  I particularly like the white and pink Wisley 001 you posted.  And the doubles of course.  So many Hepaticas I'd love to grow!!  ::)  Always the way when things aren't available, isn't it!?  ;D  Would love to have seen the display in person, but as it is a slight bit of travelling for me (how many thousand kms?  :D) it is great to be able to enjoy a visit through your camera.

Thanks. 8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Peter Maguire on March 17, 2008, 10:57:04 PM
Since John and Paul have posted enough flower pictures for everyone to drool over, I thought I'd show some general pictures of the event so that if a similar event is organised in future (is there a hint here?), then you would know what to sign up for.

Firstly
1. Gunther Kleinhans finishing his lecture
2. Some of the participants in the alpine house discussing the display
3-5. There were also various displays inside the education centre
6. A couple of SRGC forumists deep in discusion (and I hope Chris and John forgive me for taking the sneaky picture)

The pictures are all hand held, so I apologise for the drop in quality. There are plenty more, but I'm sure no-one wants to see any more flowers...

Peter
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: chris on March 18, 2008, 09:17:07 PM
Peter, I was telling to John what compost I used and what's verry importent is that yuo have a good ventilation also in the pot.
here is my mix:
1 part leaf mould
1 part Akadama
1 part Kanuma
1 part Kyriou
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on March 19, 2008, 02:46:58 AM
Chris,

Out of interest, what are Akadama, Kanuma and Kyriou?  They sound more like names of Pleione or Hepatica than something in the potting mix!!  ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul Cumbleton on March 19, 2008, 06:02:20 PM
Hi Paul,
Hope Chris won't mind my answering your question, but these strange sounding names are what the japanese call a material that they use to grow their plants in. They are a coarse material and look a bit like  small white or yellowish coloured stones. I have been unable to discover exactly what they are composed of, but they are a naturally occuring material in japan, mined from the ground after removal of topsoil. The different names seem to refer to differing sizes of the material.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: mark smyth on March 19, 2008, 06:23:51 PM
I see two people I recognise left of centre looking at each other
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on March 19, 2008, 08:32:57 PM
Must have been a great day for everyone able to attend  :D Maybe next year .... ???

Chris, by the looks of it, I bet you had a splendid time !  ;)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: WimB on March 19, 2008, 08:54:10 PM
Hello Paul,

I know "akadama" because I use it for bonsaď. It is a natural granular clay mineral. It comes in different grades (depends on the hardness, the soft ones decompose after a year or two to something that looks like normal clay) And the good (hard) akadama is rather expensive.

Wim
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on March 19, 2008, 09:29:39 PM
Glad I asked, because I never would have guessed, that is for sure.  So basically you're talking 3 different sizes of gravel (or equivalent thereof)?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johngennard on March 20, 2008, 09:13:52 PM
Not really because gravel does'nt hold water.Probably more akin to Perlite or Vermiculite.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: johanneshoeller on March 30, 2008, 07:26:00 PM
I have one pot, see one plant and 2 colours? H. acutiloba - I think so
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: alpines on April 04, 2008, 09:11:00 PM
I guess I should have scrolled down the page but I didn't see this section on Hepaticas.
I posted some photos of acutiloba in the wild on the General forum last weekend if anyone hasn't seen them yet.
Alan
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Bjarne on April 09, 2008, 06:02:49 PM
Here (http://steinulv.blogspot.com/2008/04/blveiser-hepatica-nobilis.html) are some of mine Hepatica nobilis  :) The 'Kurvinberg' came from Inderřy in Norway, and was found for 40 years ago.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Bjarne on April 21, 2008, 12:48:58 PM
Some Hepatica I found in the forest at Saturday
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Joakim B on April 21, 2008, 01:55:57 PM
Bjarne some very nice ones You found and a double!!!!! :o :o :o ;D ;D
That is not every day one see one of those.
Congratulation and thanks for sharing.
Nice to see the variation of the flowers. When I had the opportunity to look for hepaticas in the wild in Sweden the winter stated with snow so they looked a bit less good so to say.

Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Magnar on May 07, 2008, 08:02:16 AM
I like this one
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Hepatica%20nobilis%20blue%20white%20DSCF1271.jpg)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: David Nicholson on May 07, 2008, 07:43:08 PM
It is quite delicious Magnar!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: gmoen on May 12, 2008, 09:07:27 AM
A couple of Hepaticas from the garden to day. Both this plants are collected in Scandinavia, and are doing much better in my garden than any of the Japanese forms.

1 Hepatica nobilis 'Semiplena'. It have pollen and is a good plant for making new filled forms (about 5% filled forms from seed by using this plant)

2 Hepatica nobilis 'Flore Plena Alba'.

(Magnar; Is that Hepatica really yours.....you CandyKing ;D ;D )

Geir
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Magnar on May 12, 2008, 11:00:13 AM
Hehe, yes Geir, its mine.. and here is another good one. The pic is a few years old. It's flowering right now but I cant take a new pic today.

Hepatica x kurvinberg.
(http://magnar.aspaker.no/Hepatica%20x%20kurvinberg.jpg)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Armin on May 12, 2008, 10:28:04 PM
Magnar,
what a nice clump of hepactica you have- very beautiful :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on May 13, 2008, 09:16:09 AM
Magnar,
I agree with Armin : a real stunner !!!  :o
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Magnar on May 14, 2008, 08:37:14 AM
I came across this one as a tiny plant with 3 leaves in the shop of Gothenburg Botanic Garden quite some years ago. When I bought it I had no idea it was a filled type. So imagine my excitemet when it flowered with one filled flower the following spring. I've been told that this form origins from an small island in the fjord near Trondheim in the middle of Norway. But local gardeners also say its no longer to be found on that island.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: illingworth on May 19, 2008, 02:46:33 PM
After watching spring arrive in so many places we are pleased to announce our spring has arrived! The hepaticas this year are making up for their late arrival. The first photo below is of a plant we never really paid attention to until this year. I'm amazed we didn't notice it sooner!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on May 19, 2008, 03:02:48 PM
Great plants - you must have many beauties around if you didn't notice this one ??  ???  ;D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Joakim B on May 19, 2008, 03:32:10 PM
Very nice big clumps of Hepatica.  8) :o The first is very nice indeed.
Well done  ;D
Kind regards
Jokaim
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: illingworth on May 20, 2008, 07:11:06 PM
Yes Luc, there a few beauties and I'm still puzzled as to how we missed it before. This next plant is Hepatica 'Louise Koehler' which we have had for a long while. It is our only named hepatica, the rest have all been grown from seed. I tried dividing it 10 years ago and nearly lost it as I didn't understand how to do it or pay enough attention afterwards to nurse the divisions along. This year I'm going to have another go at it and this time not get distracted.
-Rob
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on May 21, 2008, 08:30:25 AM
Louise looks very pretty too Rob !  Very good plant !
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Anastasia on May 26, 2008, 09:20:10 AM
Hello! I from Russia. We too grow up Hepatica.
Here our flowers. They not such magnificent, as yours, but at us a climate bad. ;)

Whether It is possible to ask for you a few seeds? I can offer an exchange of seeds. At us a greater collection of rare plants:
FRITILLARIA, GLAUCIDIUM, TRILLIUM, ERYTHRONIUM
I Shall be very glad, if you will respond to my request. I am sorry for illiteracy. I do not know English language.

E-mail: ptaha-vorobey@mail.ru
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Joakim B on May 26, 2008, 02:32:13 PM
Anastasia
Great plants You have :) Very well done. I hope You will find seeds. I think that people who sees Your collections of the other plants will do their best to get You nice seeds. :)

Kind regards
Joakim
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: art600 on May 26, 2008, 04:44:36 PM
Anastasia

Your Frits & Erythronium were excellent, and now you show us some wonderful Hepatica.  Obviously you have green fingers and a good source for seed.

Arthur
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Kristl Walek on May 26, 2008, 09:00:32 PM
Hi Rob....didn't know you were here!!!!!!!
The Illingworths, by the way, have a MOST BEAUTIFUL GARDEN....I always tell everyone it is the best private garden I have ever seen!!!! Hopefully Rob will post many, many pictures for us to enjoy.

And, I just posted a note in the seed exchange section that tomorrow is Hepatica acutiloba collection day (wild sources). If there is anyone else who has not contacted me already, this is the time...





Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Anastasia on May 26, 2008, 09:32:37 PM
Thanks you, me is pleasant, that my plants like you.  :)

Green fingers were at my mum, I continue its business.
At us a greater collection of rare and interesting plants from the different countries. My garden small, but many interesting plants there are collected. Simeon and plants were bought, exchanged, brought by friends. Now I can exchange seeds with you.

Kristl!
I have already written to you the personal message and have sent the post address. Thanks that have responded.  :)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on June 09, 2008, 12:58:37 PM
Anastasia,

Beautiful plants.  You may think that yours aren't as nice as the others..... I've only ever flowered white or blue single varieties, plus have a few coming along from seed.  I adore all the pics of your plants, so don't feel they aren't as good.  They're beautiful!!

Rob and Sharon,

That is an interesting white edged one that you "missed".  The double is rather nice as well!!  ;D

Geir,

Both the double and your semi-plena are lovely.  Nice to have something that sets seed which has a chance of being double flowered.  Would love to find something like that myself to try to breed some doubles.  I quite like the colour and form of it for itself, as well as it's progeny potential.

Magnar,

That x kurvinberg is a beautiful form, but then again every picture of a full double I've ever seen has been good.  Lovely to see such a nice big clump flowering like that.

Great pics everyone.  Thanks. 8)
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on December 28, 2008, 01:44:29 PM
The first Hepatica flowers are peeping out from under the leaves.

Hepatica nobilis
Hepatica nobilis rubra plena double.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Gunilla on December 28, 2008, 02:36:21 PM
Oh, they are so beautiful. I long for spring when I see your photos. Do you grow them out in the garden? 
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Luc Gilgemyn on December 28, 2008, 02:40:59 PM
Very promising start for the coming season Michael !!
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on December 28, 2008, 04:35:40 PM
Quote
Oh, they are so beautiful. I long for spring when I see your photos. Do you grow them out in the garden? 
No, they are all under glass but I am going to try some in the garden this year
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: mark smyth on December 28, 2008, 04:52:18 PM
You should Michael. Those in my garden are better plants than those in pots
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Gunilla on December 28, 2008, 05:23:18 PM
I grow all my hepaticas outside in my garden and they do fine. They are mostly H. nobilis and H. transsylvanica and very hardy.  Hepatica nobilis rubra plena is a favourite of mine but they will not flower before April here.  This year I also planted a couple of H. japonica outside and I'm beginning to regret doing so. One of them already shows a little colour and the winter has not even started yet.

Hepatica japonica bud
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on December 28, 2008, 05:31:39 PM
We aim to have all our hepatica in the garden too.... early growth can be a worry though...... Gunilla, can you give a little protection to your H. japonica buds with a cloche?
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Gunilla on December 28, 2008, 05:57:59 PM
Maggi, I have tucked it in and sung a lullaby  ;)  It's freezing cold outside now.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Maggi Young on December 28, 2008, 06:06:03 PM
Maggi, I have tucked it in and sung a lullaby  ;)  It's freezing cold outside now.
What a fine Mother you are!  :D
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Michael J Campbell on December 28, 2008, 06:08:52 PM
I know that they will do well outside be as we do not get much frost(we have got plenty this year)they flower early and the rain destroys the flowers. For photographic purposes they are easier to manage under glass.
Title: Re: Hepatica 2008
Post by: Paul T on December 28, 2008, 10:53:18 PM
Michael,

That double pink is such a glorious picture.... the flower is so perfect.  Thank you!!  8)
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