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Specific Families and Genera => Iris => Topic started by: johnstephen29 on March 12, 2014, 12:01:40 AM

Title: Iris Setosa
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 12, 2014, 12:01:40 AM
Hi I have a new iris plant Iris Setosa which is already flowering, I know the reticulate flower at this time of year, but not this.
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: Gerhard Raschun on March 12, 2014, 06:17:19 AM
For me it looks like I. lazica, which would be also in flower yet......
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: David Nicholson on March 12, 2014, 08:59:09 AM
I agree.
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 12, 2014, 09:39:41 AM
Thanks guys I bought it off eBay as iris setosa, I'll change the label.
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 12, 2014, 10:40:02 AM
Yes, much too early for I. setosa, I should think about May for you, and setosa has almost no standards, just what are often described as "bristles" though this is not accurate really. They are, however, very short and un-standardlike. The colour is usually a rich violet though there are white and pink forms and forms of various sizes from very tiny to about 50-70cms high.

The picture below of a setosa x sibirica group hybrid, says a little about it in that the parts which are seen to be erect are the style arms while the standards are smaller and less prominent. I have a super pic of setosa but in an old print, not on my digital. Must rectify that.
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 12, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Thanks Lesley, is my I. Lazica flowering when it should then? It just seems really early for this type or maybe it is because of the really mild winter we have been having.
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: David Nicholson on March 13, 2014, 09:08:10 AM
John mine is in full flower now and has been for weeks and is normally in flower at this time of year. I think I had my first flower around Christmas.
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 13, 2014, 09:19:58 AM
As David says,(more or less)  that group (Unguiculares) which includes I. lazica have winter flowers in most cases, varying a little from early winter to mid spring starting dates, so yes, lazica would be well out now - for you.
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: David Nicholson on March 13, 2014, 09:50:22 AM
John, if you do a Forum Search on Iris lazica you will come up with a load of information. It's at the top of the Forum page, fourth item on the main menu.
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: johnstephen29 on March 13, 2014, 10:56:52 PM
Hi David, Lesley thanks very much for your advice, I tried the Algerian Iris once and failed with it miserably. I'm glad I am having success with its relative
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: Tom Waters on March 14, 2014, 01:17:20 AM
I. unguicularis (of which I. lazica is sometimes considered a variant, certainly a closely allied species), was for a long time known as I. stylosa. Perhaps that is similar enough that someone along the way tried to look up "stylosa" and found "setosa" as the nearest possibility.
Title: Re: Iris Setosa
Post by: Lesley Cox on March 16, 2014, 10:05:21 PM
It could be Tom. Heaven knows, plants accumulate spurious names by many different means. A saxifraga was marketed in New Zealand for some years as 'Helen' because the original provider of cutting material to a nursery was called Helen B..... And I myself accidentally wrote Iris tenax on a batch of labels for nursery plants when i should have put tectorum (or maybe it was the other way around), a genuine mistake but unforgivable in the long run if people were then growing those irises under the wrong name.
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