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Title: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on March 05, 2014, 02:09:35 PM
Planning a new venture while it's pelting down with rain and blowing (another) gale is the easy bit.

On our croft we have several rocky outcrops amidst stable wind-blown shell-sand (machair) habitat. One of these is to the rear of our house, buried beneath rank grass through lack of grazing over a number of years. It's not easy to get perspective from these first photographs but once we have cleared the turf a better idea of what we have to work with will become more apparent.

It is planned to site the greenhouse behind the solar panels to gain maximum protection from the prevailing winds.

1. East
2. South
3. West
4. North
5. Hint of what's beneath.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on March 05, 2014, 02:12:32 PM
That's the second time I've failed to add more than one image?

I'll try again.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on March 05, 2014, 02:13:57 PM
That seems to have worked. Not sure what I did differently?
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on March 05, 2014, 02:51:41 PM
I presume you fully clicked on the add attachments options, Chris.   If you click on a post to "modify" you'll see what the posts look like  in edit mode and that might help you work out the system- I'll send you some notes which may be of help.

 I think your photos show very clearly that the site is a "blank page"  and also that the task will not be an easy one.  :-X
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on March 05, 2014, 03:11:00 PM
Thanks for the notes Maggi, I'll respond shortly.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: David Nicholson on March 05, 2014, 05:09:56 PM
Bit of a problem just nipping down to Tesco there Chris. Hardy breed you Islanders.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on March 05, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
Bit of a problem just nipping down to Tesco there Chris. Hardy breed you Islanders.

But it's so peaceful David, and we to have mailorder. ;)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: mark smyth on March 05, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
Looking at the photos first I assumed the solar panels were little green houses
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: David Nicholson on March 06, 2014, 09:57:38 AM
But it's so peaceful David, and we to have mailorder. ;)

Chris, I get nervous when I can't see a cooling tower!
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 04, 2014, 05:25:51 PM
Chris, I get nervous when I can't see a cooling tower!

Far more pleasing than a cooling tower is my neighbour's JCB  ;D

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: angie on April 04, 2014, 05:43:51 PM
Chris really looking forward to this thread. I like the idea of putting the solar panels on the ground. I live 4miles outside Aberdeen and when folks come to me they say oh you are a bit remote here, love to hear their thoughts on where you live. I also live in a windy place on top of a hill. Its so quiet except for the deer and the foxes in a evening. I love the lowliness but it is fine just to nip to Sainsbury for a bar of chocolate occasionally  :-X. Just think the amount that I would have to buy if I needed to stock up monthly  ;D
Cant wait to see things develop. good luck and please keep the pictures coming.

Angie  :)

 
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 06, 2014, 09:11:58 AM
Thanks for the enthusiasm, Angie.  We came for the peace, tranquility and wildlife and have not been disappointed. The Uists are a desert for trees and shopping so occasional trips to Stornoway are necessary. Stornoway is not very inspiring but it has a fragment of old woodland, (where I look for fungi and bryophytes), and good fish stall, butchers shop and deli. You can see where the priorities lie. 8)

The site has now been cleared of turf - will post some more pictures soon.

Chris
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ChrisB on April 06, 2014, 09:24:34 AM
Looking forward to seeing how this develops Chris.  Very good idea to shelter behind the solar panels.....
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: angie on April 06, 2014, 09:39:50 AM
Looking forward to seeing how this develops Chris.  Very good idea to shelter behind the solar panels.....

Same here. It will be nice to see what your garden becomes. Can I have the diggers now that you are finished with them. This is our next problem, I duck pond maybe, the ground is so wet and its full of rushes. We have trees all around us apart from this one opening and the wind howls right to my garden. Now we have purchased the land in front of us I thought we could close that gap of with fast growing trees but I think I won't live long enough to get the benefit of these.

Ashamed to say it but I have never visited your part of the country. Keep posting the pictures.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 06, 2014, 12:05:18 PM
Looking forward to seeing how this develops Chris.  Very good idea to shelter behind the solar panels.....

An easy decision in the end but we did contemplate having it closer to the house, however, it would have been too shady in winter.

Chris
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 06, 2014, 12:16:00 PM
... but I think I won't live long enough ...

Wrong mind-set Angie, and you don't look old enough. I say live today as if it's your last but plan as if you're going to live forever.

Unfortunately the digger is not mine. That's some 'challenging' terrain in the picture.

If you do find your way over here, could you bring a shovel?  ;D

Chris
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 09, 2014, 03:40:13 PM
The turf has now been removed - the easy bit.

The images were taken about two weeks ago before the end of the wettest winter on record. I have never seen the sandy machair retain so much water.

The site for the greenhouse has been pegged out and work is due to start next Monday.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 13, 2014, 04:35:31 PM
A couple of weeks of better weather has dried the plot out.

We have made a tentative start cutting through the tangle of grass and perennial roots, but after that it will be sand.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 03, 2014, 08:22:13 PM
With three weeks of good weather we have made some progress on the greenhouse base. The footings are in and the base completed. The eight stainless-steel anchor rods are set in resin.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: angie on May 04, 2014, 12:20:54 AM
Look at that wonderful blue sky and what a beautiful view  8)

Angie  :)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Matt T on May 04, 2014, 03:13:22 AM
Here I am mixing wee barrow-loads of concrete to finally wind/sheep-proof our veg patch, and your alpine garden is moving forward at an impressive pace in Aird a'Mhachair. Looking good!
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 04, 2014, 07:49:18 AM
Look at that wonderful blue sky and what a beautiful view  8)

Angie  :)

It's been a remarkably 3-week spell after an appalling winter, giving us time to catch up on some delayed tasks. It's chucking it down today  :(
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 04, 2014, 07:51:45 AM
Here I am mixing wee barrow-loads of concrete to finally wind/sheep-proof our veg patch, and your alpine garden is moving forward at an impressive pace in Aird a'Mhachair. Looking good!

Thanks Matt.

We have made good progress - more images soon.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Steve Garvie on May 04, 2014, 08:48:51 AM
A very exciting project to follow!
Thanks for posting!

Your greenhouse will have great potential for superb ventilation assuming it doesn't take to the air.
Is that where the stainless steel anchor rods come into play?
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 04, 2014, 10:00:59 AM
... Is that where the stainless steel anchor rods come into play?

Quite  ;) ... and with a ten-year guarantee.

They don't make a true alpine house but it has ample ventilation for here.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 05, 2014, 11:59:43 AM
They have now started on the walls. Bricks are scarce and expensive on the islands, so breeze-blocks will have to do. I insisted on best quality and they haven't let me down. The contractor is a rare individual who keeps the site tidy and brushes up after the days work.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 08, 2014, 01:07:14 PM
The twin blockwork is now complete and the internal wall for the plunge bed is almost complete. It will then be shuttered for a concrete capping to bring it to the required height for the greenhouse.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: David Nicholson on May 08, 2014, 02:16:22 PM
Coming on nicely Chris.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ArnoldT on May 08, 2014, 02:32:00 PM
Chris:

What is the orientation of the greenhouse.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 08, 2014, 03:07:39 PM
Coming on nicely Chris.

It's pleasing, David.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 08, 2014, 03:10:00 PM
Chris:

What is the orientation of the greenhouse.

East/west, Arnold.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ArnoldT on May 09, 2014, 01:33:31 AM
Chris:

Should get you plenty of light.  I struggle here with our northern latitude and winter weather.

Many of the Lachenlias wind up etiolated.



Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 09, 2014, 06:34:38 AM
Chris:

Should get you plenty of light.  I struggle here with our northern latitude and winter weather.

Many of the Lachenlias wind up etiolated.

Hi Arnold

We also struggle with light levels being farther north than you (on a line of latitude comparable with Newfoundland). Temperature is not an issue though as we have the moderating influence of the Gulf Stream, making it much warmer than the east coast of America. I'm sure many alpines would prefer the winter cold though.

Our biggest issue is wind (now there's an opening for the wits).  ;)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 09, 2014, 08:55:29 PM
The base is now complete and we have started filling the plunge bed with pebbles from the bay.

15 mini truck loads in total (approximately 5 tons) all man-handled in and out. :o

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: David Nicholson on May 10, 2014, 08:45:56 AM
Class wheelbarrow ;D
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 10, 2014, 11:18:45 AM
Class wheelbarrow ;D

A great piece of equipment. It's done a lot of work around the croft since 2009 when I bought it. This is it new.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 12, 2014, 12:35:18 PM
The void had been filled to approximately two-thirds full and the first layer of sand added (possibly not in compliance with health and safety 8).

I had a series of posts concreted in which I will board to almost 1.5 metres, for added protection.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: bainbridges on May 12, 2014, 05:02:10 PM
Looking good. Can't wait to see it for real. Hope that you have less water than we currently do. The new rock garden in the west has standing water at the top of the scree.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 13, 2014, 06:38:30 AM
Looking good. Can't wait to see it for real. Hope that you have less water than we currently do. The new rock garden in the west has standing water at the top of the scree.

You are moving to a notoriously 'damp' place.

Since the winter tap was turned off, we have had 6 weeks of glorious weather.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 15, 2014, 01:56:14 PM
Started boarding around the greenhouse to provide some wind protection and maybe shelter for some beds or frames at some point in the future. It will look better when I cut the posts to size.



Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: angie on May 19, 2014, 10:58:27 PM
Wow Chris you have been busy since I last looked. Cant wait to see the next pictures.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 20, 2014, 07:01:36 AM
We had a slight hiccup last week when the greenhouse fitters' vehicle broke down on the way to the ferry. ::)

Rumour has it that they arrived on the island yesterday, so I anticipate a start today.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 20, 2014, 04:11:06 PM
Progress has been good today and they plan to work on into the evening to make the most of the good weather. Tomorrow promises to be very wet.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on May 20, 2014, 04:38:54 PM
Seems a very high roof, Chris.   :-\
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 20, 2014, 04:43:56 PM
Seems a very high roof, Chris.   :-\

Aye: good light-gathering and air circulation, Maggi.  ::)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Graeme on May 20, 2014, 05:06:33 PM
What make of alpine house is that - it looks wonderful

I have a tunnel built on a base like that - it certainly makes looking after the plants very easy - but it took a lot of filling..........
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 20, 2014, 06:57:24 PM
It's not an alpine house, Graeme, but an off-the-shelf greenhouse with quite a lot of ventilation (albeit, not in ideal places). The manufacturer is Hartley Botanic.

Filling it will be the challenge and the fun. We are gardeners with an keen interest in alpines. What little we had, before moving north, was dispersed rather than bring them north for certain demise. We do have a few things in our polytunnel, which can get rather humid, that will benefit from the glasshouse.

The Bainbridges are due next month so I'm sure they will give us lots of good advise.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 01, 2014, 03:36:02 PM
The fitters didn't have the best of weather to finish the construction but made a good job of it. The plunge got rather wet (ideal for settling the sand) but a bit steamy. I have now adjusted the automatic roof vents (not the most accessible) and cleared the condensation.

Just the fence to finish and make a gate, then start moving some plants in. They will look a bit lost a first but ample room to be indulgent.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ChrisB on June 01, 2014, 07:03:21 PM
Looks grand Chris!
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Yann on June 01, 2014, 07:19:50 PM
which manufacturer erected your greenhouse? High eaves and roof is essential for good air circulation and less thermic amplitude.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on June 01, 2014, 07:39:46 PM
Now the build is finished the proportions are perfect - you are going to have a lot of fun with that.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ArnoldT on June 01, 2014, 10:53:59 PM
Chris:

Looks great, nothing like boys with a new toys.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 02, 2014, 07:46:39 AM
Thanks Chris and Maggi - fun indeed.

Yann: It was built and erected by Hartley Botanic: http://www.hartley-botanic.co.uk/ (http://www.hartley-botanic.co.uk/) I provided the base to their specifications.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 02, 2014, 07:48:16 AM
Chris:

Looks great, nothing like boys with a new toys.

Absolutely, Arnold  ;)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: David Nicholson on June 02, 2014, 08:25:01 AM
Very nice Chris.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ArnoldT on June 02, 2014, 10:29:27 AM
Chris:

Was there any thought for putting the plunge bed on one side of the glass house as opposed to the other.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 02, 2014, 11:01:14 AM
Very nice Chris.

Thanks David.

I do like the projects side of gardening and will gives some thought to the rock garden and plan some frames, while my wife starts to populate the greenhouse. I think the area at the back of the solar panels will make a good shade bed.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 02, 2014, 11:10:53 AM
Chris:

Was there any thought for putting the plunge bed on one side of the glass house as opposed to the other.

Arnold, I did some research but didn't come up with anything conclusive so followed what I perceived as logic at the time. Had I joined this forum a tad earlier, it would have been a good question to ask.

As I don't have any opening lights a bed level, I was concerned that scorch would be a problem so opted to site it on the north side. I have blinds installed on the south side as they were better value at the time of installation, but how much use they will get is debatable.

Once the electrics have been connected, I will instal a fan.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: johnw on June 02, 2014, 12:42:35 PM
What a toy!  Surely the most beautiful greenhouse I've seen.

Chris, I assume the fence is a windbreak?  We know a bit about wind here in NS as well.

South Uist of course was the point of exit of many Scots that came to Nova Scotia in the 1700's.  I think if one of my forebearers in particular had seen that greenhouse he may well have ordered a U-turn.

johnw

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 02, 2014, 03:15:54 PM
I think if one of my forebearers in particular had seen that greenhouse he may well have ordered a U-turn.

johnw

 ;D ;D

Yes, the fence is a windbreak. It looks to be cramping the greenhouse from the images but it's 2-3 metres away. I measured the length of shadows in January to make sure it didn't take any light away in winter. This is the second windiest place on the plant after Commonwealth Bay in Antarctica. Geographically, we are quite a bit farther north than you (on a line with north Newfoundland) but nothing like as cold. I hope you don't experience the miserable fogs they get farther north.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on June 02, 2014, 03:22:06 PM
I was looking back through the thread to see if you'd said what size the alpine house is - don't see it - can you let us know - I'm guessing "big" but dimensions would be interesting.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 02, 2014, 03:33:56 PM
I was looking back through the thread to see if you'd said what size the alpine house is - don't see it - can you let us know - I'm guessing "big" but dimensions would be interesting.

In round figures, it's 6 x 3 metres, Maggi. The manufacturers refer to it as the Victorian Gallery Glasshouse. Precise details are here: http://www.hartley-botanic.co.uk/product/victorian-gallery-glasshouses (http://www.hartley-botanic.co.uk/product/victorian-gallery-glasshouses)

The height may make it look larger.

Edit: I note they are using an earlier model in the image. There are now 12 opening lights.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on June 02, 2014, 03:41:34 PM
Ooh, yes, that's big.  8)  VERY nice!

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: johnw on June 02, 2014, 08:30:20 PM
I hope you don't experience the miserable fogs they get farther north.

Not at all Chris that's why all the Scots came here.  In Halifax we only get 112 days of fog per year. 8)

johnw
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ArnoldT on June 03, 2014, 02:20:41 AM
Chris:

I had louvered windows installed below bench level to get a good air flow.  As the warm rises and leaves the greenhouse the cooler air is drawn in through the area under the benches.

Couple of issues with that.

It's frantically difficult to crawl under the benches to open and close the windows on the few days were it warms during the day and cools at night.  Don't want to heat the entire outdoors here.  I think I may have found loops that can be installed to replace the handles.  It will accept a long pole like merchants use to open and close  their awnings.


I use a shade clothe made of aluminized plastic.  It is available in different degrees of shade.  It's draped over the front of the lean to and hangs down over the front south facing side.



Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 04, 2014, 06:44:57 PM
Interesting comment, Arnold.

The few alpine houses I've seen are lourvred which presumably give a more controlled airflow, but considering the amount of 'stuff' under the staging, access would be trying. A nice idea though.

External shading is a useful protection in a benign environment but here it would soon be on its way to Greenland  ::)

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Roma on June 04, 2014, 06:57:46 PM
My husband installed a couple of louvres in my greenhouse the wrong way round so they can be opened from outside.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on June 04, 2014, 07:19:38 PM
My husband installed a couple of louvres in my greenhouse the wrong way round so they can be opened from outside.
      BRILLIANT IDEA!

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Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 05, 2014, 06:14:31 AM
My husband installed a couple of louvres in my greenhouse the wrong way round so they can be opened from outside.

Great lateral thinking but wouldn't that let all the rain in?
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on June 05, 2014, 09:49:34 AM
Great lateral thinking but wouldn't that let all the rain in?
Not if you turn them upside down ........
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Martinr on June 05, 2014, 09:56:32 AM
Then the glass falls out :'(
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on June 05, 2014, 10:01:19 AM
Then the glass falls out :'(

 Gaffer tape, Martin, gaffer tape.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 05, 2014, 11:30:09 AM
Upside-down louvres held together with gaffer tape - now why didn't I think of that  :o
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on June 05, 2014, 11:40:59 AM
Upside-down louvres held together with gaffer tape - now why didn't I think of that  :o

 Duuno - perhaps you're not a gaffer tape type of person..........
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ashley on June 05, 2014, 12:22:23 PM
Duuno - perhaps you're not a gaffer tape type of person..........

;D ;D ;D   
Reminds me of working in a research lab where all the key equipment was custom-designed, home-made and endlessly adaptable.  The crucial role played by gaffer tape shocked some visitors. 
Happy days.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Roma on June 05, 2014, 01:03:03 PM
I'm not sure how he did it.  It was a long time ago (?nearly 30 years).  We don't get as much horizontal rain as you do,Chris ;D but as they are below bench height it would not be much of a problem.  Just remembered you have a sloid base so that would not be possible in your greenhouse.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 05, 2014, 02:22:10 PM
Thanks for the image Roma.

It looks to operate through rather more than 90 degrees so no need to invert it or, indeed, use Maggi's gaffer tape.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ArnoldT on June 06, 2014, 02:26:18 AM
Is gaffer's tape also known as Duct tape.

You find in all sorts of places.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 06, 2014, 06:04:15 AM
Is gaffer's tape also known as Duct tape.

You find in all sorts of places.

Yes, Arnold.

I've even seen it referred to as Duck Tape, presumably for taping ducks. ::)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Graeme on June 07, 2014, 07:51:12 PM
a small blob of clear silicon either end also does the trick - in fact I never bother screwing down any of the green houses we have they are all just sat on 3 or 4 canisters of silicon
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: jomowi on June 08, 2014, 11:03:16 AM
a small blob of clear silicon either end also does the trick - in fact I never bother screwing down any of the green houses we have they are all just sat on 3 or 4 canisters of silicon
I don't think you would get away with that on South Uist!!
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 09, 2014, 06:36:59 PM
I don't think you would get away with that on South Uist!!

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: angie on June 10, 2014, 09:28:59 PM
Chris just catching up on here, love the greenhouse. My friends Helen and Bill have had two greenhouses from that company, brilliant greenhouses.

As for silicone, I just love the stuff. Sometimes though it really difficult to get apart when you need to pull it of.

I can't wait to see the plants in their new home. You will have so much fun in there. Like I said before I live in a windy situation and its great to escape the wind. I have a koi pond in a polytunnel and when it's blowing a gale I am cosy in there the same with my greenhouse.

Angela  :)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 11, 2014, 08:44:02 AM
I can't wait to see the plants in their new home. You will have so much fun in there. Like I said before I live in a windy situation and its great to escape the wind. I have a koi pond in a polytunnel and when it's blowing a gale I am cosy in there the same with my greenhouse.

Angela  :)

Hi Angela

Don't hold your breath on seeing too many plants - as I mentioned earlier, we dispersed much of our collection as it wouldn't have survive the condition up here without some protection.

We also have a polytunnel which is a haven in wet and windy weather. However, it's unashamedly geared to the stomach. I picked these yesterday. :)

Chris

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: angie on June 11, 2014, 08:57:09 AM
Chris those strawberries look lovely. My polytunnel started its life for growing fruit and veg, then I put plunge beds in but it got to hot so I was having a problem keeping my koi alive outside so in went the pond. I really like sitting in there on a miserable day reading and just enjoying the koi. Just a pity I couldn't cover my whole garden with a big polytunnel.

You soon will get a collection of lovely plants and they will love their new home. Enjoying your thread.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 12, 2014, 07:53:06 AM
I have now finished the windbreak boarding and made the gate.

That will be it for a while as I have other commitments, but hope to resume excavating the outcrop sometime in July.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 22, 2014, 04:10:19 PM
We had some honoured guests this week, long standing friends of over 40 years. Couldn't resist the opportunity for a cerimonial opening from the president, seen here with my wife Christine. They then spent an hour exposing a bit more rock, although Carole would have liked another week at it.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on June 22, 2014, 05:28:11 PM
Well, it IS a pretty natty greenhouse and we have all enjoyed watching it's progress here, so an official opening ceremony does seem the right thing to  have done!
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Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 23, 2014, 10:12:46 AM
Maggi, you have a wonderful collection of cartoons to suit the occasion.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on June 23, 2014, 10:48:11 AM
Thanks, I do my best  to find something appropriate  :D

For those who have messaged to ask -  the opening ceremony was performed by SRGC President Carole Bainbridge. In image #72  we see Ian Bainbridge, himself a past president of SRGC, Christine Johnson and President Carole.  :)

 See Carole's introduction here (http://www.srgc.net/site/index.php/extensions/who-are-the-scottish-rock-garden-club) on the main website
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ChrisB on June 25, 2014, 02:03:37 PM
It's clear who the supervisor is in pic no 4.....
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on June 25, 2014, 02:30:23 PM
It's clear who the supervisor is in pic no 4.....
Or else an (almost)  classic example of British work methods - never have all the bods at work at once!  For the truly classic example, of course,  there should be more watching than are working  ;D
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 16, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
Not posted for a while but not been idle. Several tons of soil and sand have been moved but, as with much groundwork, there if often little to show for it.

The area between the solar panels and the outbuilding has been levels to make into a herbaceous bed, both ornamental and for the kitchen. A low windbreak has been built to offer a modicum of protection (not quite finished in the image attached).

An area the length of the house was in need of excavation as it was full of builders rubble and claggy soil. Although the house has its own drainage system it was thought advisable to enhance it as the rockery slopes towards the house. The rubble was retained and put back then topped with sand and finally with gravel.

The raised bed in the greenhouse has been topped with nice clean sand from the excavations and our modest collection of plants are slowly being moved to the site.

Chris

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 26, 2015, 10:59:27 AM
Is it really 8 months since I added to this thread? There was some autumn work to bring you up-to-date on but the winter months were atrocious - more later.

We has 20 tons of 20mm granite chipping delivered to cover as much of the exposed sand as possible before the autumn and winter gales. This included quite a large area to the rear of the house (shown in the last entry). More of the outcrop has been exposed and a pleasing quartz-like (I know little about geology) stratum revealed.

In the greenhouse compound I have built 8 frames but didn't have time or materials to complete the lids. This is one of my next jobs and will show images when finished.

Whilst on a recent trip to the Edinburgh area, staying with friends, we were fortunate on our last day to attend an evening talk by George Watt on developing a new 'garden'. I emphasise garden as the scale was impressive as indeed were the 24 ton digger and 5 ton dump-truck. It looked like he and his wife (Sue?) were developing a nursery rather than a grand garden scheme. I'm sure they won't mind me saying, they are not in the first flush of youth, which makes the project all the more inspirational. Very few could, or would want to, garden on this scale but it's right in my zone and I came away full of new ideas (sorry Christine). ;)

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: David Nicholson on April 26, 2015, 03:37:41 PM
Good work there Chris. I don't envy your climate but I do envy your space.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 26, 2015, 04:00:27 PM
We came for the space, view, and peace and quiet, David; the climate is exciting but not too good for gardening at times. ::)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: David Nicholson on April 26, 2015, 04:07:57 PM
Didn't you consider Yorkshire Chris?
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 26, 2015, 04:14:03 PM
We considered many areas spending two years looking, and almost bought a place in the Pyrénées.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Matt T on April 26, 2015, 04:37:20 PM
I don't envy your climate...

It's challenging, but we have no trouble with Primula suffering from summer heat though, David. If we choose carefully there are many plants that we can grow reasonably well.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: David Nicholson on April 26, 2015, 05:30:44 PM
There's always an upside Matt.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 26, 2015, 06:39:16 PM
It's nearly all upside, David. Only the wind is challenging.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Hoy on April 26, 2015, 07:06:39 PM
I have something like your climate Chris, but not your space!

And I have a lot of slugs and snails - could make a fortune selling them if somebody wanted snacks ;D They certainly taste good - they have to as they have good taste and choose only the best >:(

Any gastropods (or gastronomes) at your place?
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 26, 2015, 09:14:48 PM
We have more than enough gastropods thank you, Trond. ;D ;D

In my experience, they are all pretty tough and tasteless. It's the herbs, garlic butter and baguette you have with them that tastes so good.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 27, 2015, 10:28:25 AM
Not all good news this winter as the hurricane ripped three of the roof-vents off and also damaged the polytunnel.

I was instructed to slacken off the tensioners on the automatic vents and tie them down for extra security. This I did but the relentless gales fretted away until it cut through the ties (tough baler-twine) and then mangled the openers until they broke, finally ripping the lights off. One, amazingly, ended up inside where is damaged several pots; another in the gutter and the third 50 metres away in my neighbour's field.

We lost a proportion of our meagre stock, the rest we took down to the polytunnel for the winter. Hartley's were very good in accepting responsibility and agree to replace them when weather permitted. Sadly, this wasn't until April leaving us without the greenhouse all winter. With the gales now able to enter, the sand-plunge was liberally spread over the entire inside. Our experience from the previous summer suggested that the roof-vents were not necessary so we agree to have the replacements permanently fixed. We have ample ventilation through the six large side vents.


Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on April 27, 2015, 10:42:14 AM
My word,  I don't think I had fully realised the height of the structure, Chris. Seeing the shot with the ladder  brings home the scale.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 27, 2015, 10:58:11 AM
Yes, not ideal for our situation but it does provide good air circulation and with the new roof-vents fixed we don't anticipated any more problems.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on April 27, 2015, 11:13:30 AM
The Kederhouse (polytunnel) is an amazing structure which has withstood 5 brutal winters and now a hurricane without issue. The damage sustained this winter was from a flying object (probably a broken fish-crate which can have very sharp edges) which cut the end roof-panel allowing subsequent gales to tear the Keder material between the fixings.

The manufacturers came up promptly and replaced the panel. Nothing was lost from within the tunnel but it was rather draughty for a while.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 10, 2015, 02:11:00 PM
The area between the solar panels and the shed was prepared last autumn with some low protection and a few loads of rotted seaweed and cow manure. As the base is almost pure sand, it won't be too rich when spread. It was left like this for the winter.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 10, 2015, 02:24:55 PM
Last week we started to lay out the beds with easy access in mind, using driftwood and pebbles off the beach. The recessed area nearest the panels has been left for later as it may be used as a sand bed. Likewise, the end nearest the shed is on hold as I've got ideas for an extension. More on that later (much later). The bed nearest the drive has not been enriched - it's just sand and subsoil. We planned to start planting this weekend but have a three-day Atlantic depression to cope with. A bit brutal at this time of year.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 25, 2015, 01:11:32 PM
A job I started last autumn was building bases for some frames. The weather closed in before I had time to make the lids, but they are now finished. Four have a Keder covering the other four with shade netting.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 05, 2015, 11:52:31 AM
Last autumn, between the greenhouse and rear of the solar panels, I prepared a shade bed ready for planting in the spring.

It proved a wind alley with the hurricane hitting the end panel and pushing it over 15 degrees. These 100 x 100mm posts are in half a metre of concrete each  :o

So more protecting. This time with a frame and shade/wind-resticting netting. We can now get some planting done.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Yann on June 05, 2015, 11:12:39 PM
Good hard job, it should withstand strong wings.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 06, 2015, 08:12:11 AM
Thanks Yann - I certainly hope so.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: bainbridges on June 17, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Fingers crossed. Good to see you have been busy.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 18, 2015, 08:18:52 AM
Fingers crossed. Good to see you have been busy.

Very busy, when this abysmal weather permits. We've been working on an extension to the shed, hinted at in another thread (don't know how to provide the link), with a polycarbonate roof. Christine's very excited with this new space and suggested I cover the whole garden with a 'lid'.

What a dangerous thing to say  :o

Must update this blog with some more images.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 20, 2015, 09:27:28 AM
So, what it happening on t'other side? Well, not a great deal.

We moved a few more tons of sand-soil and exposed more rock in late autumn, but the very wet and windy winter kept us indoors. The torrential rain did have the advantage of cleaning off what we had exposed and showed us where the water was going. Rather neatly, it has flowed from the centre and, starting at the back, flowed all the way round to the front and exited into the nearby field.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 20, 2015, 09:38:15 AM
We thought it would be nice to make a feature of this natural water flow and make a dry river bed with local pebbles. This is still work in progress but we like the effect so far. The demarcation stones between the pebbles and chipping is too harsh so they will be removed and allow a natural mingling of the two.

The triangular bed was to be terraced but there wasn't enough fall so I've 'paved' it with stone and allowed good crevices for planting. I would have liked a little extra height here so may alter it at some point in the future.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 20, 2015, 09:41:19 AM
This is no longer a priority but I do a little as time allows.

The new extension to the shed had taken over in the short term (some images soon).
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 26, 2015, 11:23:56 AM
We have been working on a new lean-to extension to the workshop.

The footings and paved area went in first followed by a stub-wall, two blocks high which will give me something build against when creating a linear rockery outside. Fairly heavy construction materials have been used which would be over-engineered in most parts of the country but a safer option here. It faces east and this elevation with be covered in wind-break material, providing good air-circulation. A linear strip of soak-away has been provided for any rain that enters. We have a spare window from the house which will fit nicely in the south elevation.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 26, 2015, 11:33:10 AM
The roofing is 25mm clear triple polycarbonate, 1 metre wide by 4.5 metres long allowing for a half metre overhang. The central bed is raised by two blocks and filled with sandy soil (increasingly sandy toward the top, topped with 20mm chipping. I anticipate it settling by a least 100mm allowing room for a gritty compost on top. The chippings will be worked into the sub-surface.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 03, 2015, 10:15:31 AM
I showed the construction of this covered rockery in my Ardivachar blog, but it's probably better suited here.

To recap: the base was filled with sandy soil with 20mm chippings worked into the upper surface for extra drainage. Rocks were then laid, contours and raised areas were filled with sand. The surface was treated with a thin layer of John Innes compost with 50% extra grit. As planting progresses, a top dressing of grit will be applied.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Yann on August 19, 2015, 01:16:11 PM
What a long-term job, i'm curious to see how the plants will thrive in their cocoon.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 19, 2015, 02:53:39 PM
Hi Yann

It's been another year of building and hard landscaping but almost at an end now. I recently redirected this part of the development to Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock..... but perhaps it would be better to keep it all together here. It has good air-flow with the window and door open (bearing in mind there is always some wind even on 'calm' days) but a nice place to be when it's chucking it down with rain.

The bed has now settled and some rocks are in place. We don't have the luxury of sedimentary rocks so make the most of granite, much of it off the beach which has been rounded with tidal motion. Here are the latest images after some tentative planting.

Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: David Nicholson on August 19, 2015, 02:59:58 PM
Nice job Chris.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Maggi Young on August 19, 2015, 03:43:07 PM
Hi Yann

It's been another year of building and hard landscaping but almost at an end now. I recently redirected this part of the development to Crevice Gardening ......in defence of rock..... but perhaps it would be better to keep it all together here. It has good air-flow with the window and door open (bearing in mind there is always some wind even on 'calm' days) but a nice place to be when it's chucking it down with rain.

The bed has now settled and some rocks are in place. We don't have the luxury of sedimentary rocks so make the most of granite, much of it off the beach which has been rounded with tidal motion. Here are the latest images after some tentative planting.


  I moved your post from 3rd August back to this thread, Chris - it is reply 120, above ...

 A  notice remains in the Crevice  thread to direct here.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 19, 2015, 03:59:00 PM
Nice job Chris.

Thanks, David.

Bit short on plants at present but we have some growing on from seed.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 19, 2015, 04:01:49 PM
  I moved your post from 3rd August back to this thread, Chris - it is reply 120, above ...

 A  notice remains in the Crevice  thread to direct here.

Thank you, Maggi. I think it's the best option.
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: ChrisB on August 19, 2015, 07:30:04 PM
Looks great!
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: angie on August 19, 2015, 11:00:43 PM
Just catching up and boy you have been busy. Looking good. Two weeks ago I was in this huge garden centre down south and they had it mostly covered and I thought to myself now if only I could cover my house and garden it wouldn't half make life more enjoyably on the top of this hill.
I suppose I would have to water a lot more  ;D

Angie  :)
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 20, 2015, 07:33:32 AM
Thanks Chris and Angie.

Angie, we had momentary thoughts of covering more of the garden, then reality kicked in. ::) Next year is all about planting and sowing a lot more seeds. I do enjoy the building and landscaping but the joints are starting to creak.

I did notice an air-dryer had crept into the space  ???
Title: Re: New Rock Garden and Greenhouse - Ardivachar
Post by: Chris Johnson on March 12, 2016, 03:49:32 PM
Thought it time I added to this blog although little has happened since August. I did build some shelves the full length of the wall which have proved useful for overwintering some pots that needed to be kept dry. It should be good in the spring and summer for pleiones and other plants that require semi-shade.

Not a lot has been planted in the raised bed yet. The only issue I've found is that some bulbs (crocuses, in this case) on the west (wall-side) have grown etiolated. I will removed them in the summer and incorporate some humus for shade-loving plants.

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