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Title: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 01, 2013, 09:50:11 AM
Galanthus plicatus 'Mary Hely-Hutchinson'
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Thomas Seiler on December 01, 2013, 10:23:37 AM
Beautiful and perfect, Paddy!
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Post by: Brian Ellis on December 01, 2013, 10:57:28 AM
Very nice colouring too :)
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 01, 2013, 12:54:13 PM
Brian, I did the colouring in myself - with crayons!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 01, 2013, 02:33:53 PM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 01, 2013, 03:46:25 PM
A real advent pleasure: Galanthus cilicicus is starting to bloom and will bring flowers until christmas!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 01, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
Hello Paddy,

a proud flower and a good mark to remember!
Irland = Island of Emerald = green
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 01, 2013, 05:42:31 PM
I'm delighted with this one, Hagen, as it is the first time I have had it in the garden. And, as happens, I could not get this bulb in Ireland but was given on by a very kind lady in England so it is especially to be treasured.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 01, 2013, 05:44:18 PM
Now, a little surprise from today. I picked a flower from G. 'Barnes' to bring into the heat of the house so it would open and I could photograph it. We went off for a walk and look what I found when I returned.

Galanthus 'Barnes'
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on December 01, 2013, 05:54:30 PM
Excuse my ignorance, Paddy - is 'Barnes'  supposed to have four "bits"?
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: MR GRUMPY on December 01, 2013, 07:25:34 PM
Excuse my ignorance, Paddy - is 'Barnes'  supposed to have four "bits"?
Only when grown in Ireland,Maggi :)
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on December 01, 2013, 07:33:00 PM
Only when grown in Ireland,Maggie :)
Aha! That's a bit of luck then!!!  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Michael J Campbell on December 01, 2013, 07:48:47 PM
It is the same with the Clover here Maggi. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on December 01, 2013, 07:51:30 PM
That I do know, Michael : Ian brought me a four leaved clover from Kilkenny many moons ago .... I 've always been sure they were all like that!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 01, 2013, 09:00:17 PM
Excuse my ignorance, Paddy - is 'Barnes'  supposed to have four "bits"?

You have the sharp eyes, Maggi. That was the surprise - four inner and four outer segments,  a nice little surprise.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Anthony Darby on December 02, 2013, 08:17:41 AM
Very pretty.  8)
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Post by: snowdropcollector on December 02, 2013, 09:51:23 PM
Great to see Paddy, a very nice surprise  :D. Would even be better when you have this surprise every year  :o.
Wishes, wishes.......
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 03, 2013, 06:56:02 PM
 I found this in a G.elwesii-delivery from the netherlands.  :)
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: snowdropcollector on December 03, 2013, 07:47:06 PM
You can make that smile much bigger Uwe  ;D !! Great snowdrop, hope it will develope well for you.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 03, 2013, 08:31:12 PM

in this delivery are some autumn blooming flowers and this is part of it. :D  There are still some in bud and I hope for more  ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 03, 2013, 10:45:43 PM
What a nice surprise amongst the other snowdrops Uwe, let's hope it increases well for you as it will make a nice clump.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 03, 2013, 11:07:08 PM
Lovely plant, Uwe.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 04, 2013, 06:59:22 AM
Uwe, best start bulb for a collection of autumn flowering galanthus. Gratulations!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 04, 2013, 06:37:44 PM
 
 Many thanks,but unfortunately i'm not a real friend of autumn flowering galanthus  ???
 But maybe I'll still  8)   ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 04, 2013, 08:17:47 PM
So give them a cold place outside with a lot of frost. So they cannot come out, because the ground is frozen. Then all galanthus will bloom at the same time - your spring time!!!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Alan_b on December 05, 2013, 12:22:09 PM
In Uwe's picture, the green area on the outer petals is somewhat shrunken compared to the white part of the petal.  One sometimes sees this on snowdrops with green markings on the outer petals although by no means in every case.  I'm just wondering if there is a technical term to describe this feature?
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: snowdropcollector on December 05, 2013, 12:46:16 PM
Some pictures of last weekend. No weather to be in the garden now, heavy wind overhere  :-\.

Elwesii Barnes
Elwesii ex Broadleigh Gardens
Reg Olg Eleni
Santa Claus
Gabriel

Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: snowdropcollector on December 05, 2013, 12:48:45 PM
And two more...

Remember Remember
Elwesii Howard Wheeler

Howard Wheeler is just 2 two weeks later as last year. But this year I noticed some green tips on the outers.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Melvyn Jope on December 05, 2013, 03:55:09 PM
Glad Eleni is doing well Richard,  Remember Remember looks great.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: snowdropcollector on December 05, 2013, 07:03:38 PM
Melvyn, I think Reg Olg Eleni is one of the better Reg Olg's, with good strong large flowers.
Remember Remember is one of my favourites, large flowers. And a tall snowdrop.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Melvyn Jope on December 05, 2013, 08:43:11 PM
Melvyn, I think Reg Olg Eleni is one of the better Reg Olg's, with good strong large flowers.

I am glad you think Eleni is one of the better G.r-o's. Its can be difficult deciding whether or not a seedling has sufficient merit to be selected for further attention. The plant shown is a case in point, nothing extraordinary about the flowers but very robust with eleven flowers from an 8cm square pot. Some of you will know that I think fragrance is a very important feature, when I brought this plant in from the cold frame today my wife immediately commented that she could smell its perfume from some distance. So will I give it further appraisal, probably yes, at least for another flowering season.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Melvyn Jope on December 05, 2013, 08:51:00 PM
Another G.r-o photographed today, nice markings but only on the largest, most mature, flower, it will be kept to see how it performs next year.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on December 05, 2013, 08:57:40 PM
Another G.r-o photographed today, nice markings but only on the largest, most mature, flower, it will be kept to see how it performs next year.

It looks very promising Melvyn ! I hope that this interesting feature comes back on al the flowers. 
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on December 05, 2013, 08:59:40 PM
I am glad you think Eleni is one of the better G.r-o's. Its can be difficult deciding whether or not a seedling has sufficient merit to be selected for further attention. The plant shown is a case in point, nothing extraordinary about the flowers but very robust with eleven flowers from an 8cm square pot. Some of you will know that I think fragrance is a very important feature, when I brought this plant in from the cold frame today my wife immediately commented that she could smell its perfume from some distance. So will I give it further appraisal, probably yes, at least for another flowering season.

Fragrance is often forgotten but can be an interesting feature to . And it looks very floriferous to ! 
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 06, 2013, 08:10:33 PM
 
 it continues with autumn flowering G.elwesii with many green
on the outer petals  8)  :D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 07, 2013, 06:56:48 AM
Uwe, you will have green christmas feelings :)
Looks very exciting!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 07, 2013, 09:38:41 AM
I am glad you think Eleni is one of the better G.r-o's. Its can be difficult deciding whether or not a seedling has sufficient merit to be selected for further attention. The plant shown is a case in point, nothing extraordinary about the flowers but very robust with eleven flowers from an 8cm square pot. Some of you will know that I think fragrance is a very important feature, when I brought this plant in from the cold frame today my wife immediately commented that she could smell its perfume from some distance. So will I give it further appraisal, probably yes, at least for another flowering season.

The fragrance is even reaching me here and is wonderful!!!

Even without the fragrance I am taken by the length and elegance of the outer segments.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: snowdropcollector on December 07, 2013, 11:24:18 AM
It seems you bought some good bulbs Uwe, I am looking forward to see the flowers when they are open  :)

The new ones look great Melvyn, specially the one with the long outher segments. If the flowers are as robust as from
Eleni, this will be a Reg Olg to looking forward to, to grow.  :D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Pauli on December 08, 2013, 04:07:20 PM
My clump of regiae-olgae, first hhown a month ago - slightly bend today because of temperatures around zero.
They get overhead protection, -7C was the coldest morning this season!

Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Melvyn Jope on December 08, 2013, 08:40:18 PM
Galanthus reginae-olgae Stavroula,  much smaller flower than most selections
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Post by: steve owen on December 08, 2013, 08:51:49 PM
In yesterday's sunshine;
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: MR GRUMPY on December 08, 2013, 09:31:46 PM
Beautiful plants Steve........'Sheds and Outhouses' :o thats one to look out for.Is it always this early?.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: steve owen on December 08, 2013, 10:38:14 PM
First time it's flowered for me Steve, so we'll see. Really keen on the varieties that flower before Christmas and working with their seedlings to extend the range.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Alan_b on December 08, 2013, 10:45:17 PM
I would love to see a collection dedicated to pre-Xmas snowdrops; it would be like having a sneak preview of the main event.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Tony Willis on December 09, 2013, 03:12:18 PM
Two forms of Galanthus cilicicus
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 09, 2013, 04:02:29 PM
Very refined inner mark on that one from Nutt.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Melvyn Jope on December 09, 2013, 09:41:25 PM
Very nice G.cilicicus Tony, I agree with Brian, the second one has particularly nice markings.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 09, 2013, 10:00:35 PM
Galanthus 'Barnes'
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 10, 2013, 08:34:19 PM
Lots of noses up in the garden and in pots. snogerupii and elwesii Haydn now flowering. I also must look for more autumn flowering and pre Christmas flowering cultivars to extend the season backwards

Quite strange that about half by elwesii Barnes are over, some are perfect and a few have only just come up
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: snowdropcollector on December 11, 2013, 03:52:34 PM
Lovely weather yesterday and Remember Remember was fully open.

I like the second G.cilicicus also Tony, great inner mark.   
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 11, 2013, 04:35:38 PM
Just noticed today I now have three Peter Gatehouse
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Alan_b on December 11, 2013, 06:47:09 PM
Hooray.  That's 50% growth isn't it, Mark?
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Post by: Rudi B. on December 11, 2013, 07:01:42 PM
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7417/60c7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/689/60c7.jpg/)

Rudi
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 11, 2013, 07:55:19 PM
Alan yes 50% increase over many years.

Rudi are you forcing Three Ships? No sign of mine
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: emma T on December 11, 2013, 08:24:43 PM
Bit off topic but .......I have been asked to a second interview for the job I'm trying for  :D happy happy joy joy .
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on December 11, 2013, 08:27:53 PM
Bit off topic but .......I have been asked to a second interview for the job I'm trying for  :D happy happy joy joy .
Best news I've had all week, Emma - well done - now you just have to "sock it to 'em one more time"!!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: emma T on December 11, 2013, 08:29:47 PM
I will !
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 11, 2013, 10:43:42 PM
Wonderful Emma, very best of luck.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Alan_b on December 11, 2013, 10:49:48 PM
Rudi are you forcing Three Ships?
 
Possibly that extra warmth from an array of beeswax candles, you mean?

And well done Emma.   
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 11, 2013, 11:35:38 PM
Yes Alan.

Gardening job Emma? Good luck
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 12, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
Very mild weather here and several are showing in the garden. G. elw.'Barnes' is in flower as is G. elw Hiemalis, 'Peter Gatehouse' is up but has always been a misery-guts with me. 'Three Ships' is well up , showing white and 'Castlegar' has done its annual trick of suddenly appearing well above ground where there was no sign of it the day before.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 12, 2013, 04:15:46 PM
Yes they are shooting up here too Paddy, counted over 200 today.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 12, 2013, 04:20:54 PM
But also under glass they are feeling the warm weather and are coming to look over the ground ;D.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 13, 2013, 02:45:31 PM
Yes they are shooting up here too Paddy, counted over 200 today.

Stop upsetting me, Brian!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 13, 2013, 04:11:12 PM
Stop upsetting me, Brian!

Well it's not often that I am not far behind everyone else so must make the most of it ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 13, 2013, 07:01:10 PM
Enjoy it all.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hans A. on December 15, 2013, 09:07:05 PM
Today there was some sunshine - G. elwesii monostictus and G. cilicicus.  :)
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: snowdropcollector on December 15, 2013, 09:17:48 PM
Beautiful picture Hans, it is very nice to see snowdrops in this set up.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 16, 2013, 12:28:52 AM
Hans what is the green tipped snowdrop?
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 16, 2013, 03:38:41 PM
My Peter Gatehouse is now 5! One bulb is a tight group of three so I'm assuming a Narcissus fly may have partially eaten a bulb
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Alan_b on December 16, 2013, 05:23:49 PM
Not necessarily, Mark.  The offsets tend to stay close to the parent bulb. 
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 17, 2013, 12:17:34 AM
Warm day, G. elwesii 'Barnes' opening.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: johnw on December 17, 2013, 02:57:09 PM
I have posted pictures of this snowdrop in the past and the file name reflects what forumists have suggested as a possible name(s).   It is in flower now in Victoria, BC.   Looking at Paddy's shot of 'Barnes' with  iosceles-sided marks I wonder if this rules out Barnes for Carol's plant as her flowers have inverted U marks .  A friend of hers has declared it a hybrid without even having seen the plant, mainly because of the single mark!

Hard to say if all the shoots in the picture are the same plants.

john
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 17, 2013, 07:53:37 PM
Here now a update from my elwesii-find ( reply 17).
Today it was warm and sunny and this sowdrop showed its full Beauty :D :
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 17, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
Glückskind!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 17, 2013, 10:40:55 PM
We wait and watch to see that it lives up to its Christmassy name. Galanthus 'Three Ships' today.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 17, 2013, 10:42:28 PM
John, here is Galanthus elwesii Hiemalis Group in flower today.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Thomas Seiler on December 18, 2013, 12:45:34 AM
Great find, Uwe!
Where are you gardening?

Paddy, your Hiemalis Group ones are of good shape. Mine have rather narrow outers and are still closed.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Carolyn Walker on December 18, 2013, 12:49:19 AM
Paddy, Your photographs of snowdrops are absolutely breathtaking.  Do you have any special techniques that you would like to pass on.  It seems like you must lie flat on the ground to get such a perfect angle. 

Nothing to photograph here as we just had our fourth snowstorm before Christmas and the temperatures are in the low 30s and 20s, that's Fahrenheit, all very unusual for us in the generally mild mid-Atlantic US.  A customer wanted to know if a particular snowdrop was blooming, and I dug down through the snow and ice to discover a nice white bud but no flower. 
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 18, 2013, 06:41:32 AM
Paddy, your THREE SHIPS are the best sign, that christmas is coming. A good news!!!
Here they ring also :).
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Alan_b on December 18, 2013, 08:03:14 AM
John the point of the Hiemelis group is that there are lots of rather similar elwesiis that flower about now (well here anyway) that don't have names.  Unless you have very good reason to suppose that snowdrop is a named cultivar then in all probability it isn't.  Barnes has a heart-shaped mark (inverted). 
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 18, 2013, 09:55:28 AM
Thomas, Yes, these are well-shaped and good to grow but I don't think they are especially different from many others except they flower early.

Carolyn, yes, I have a wet and dirty tummy very often. I like to photograph from this angle so as to see the markings as well as the whole plant.

Hagen, we have warm days at present so the Three Ships should open sails for Christmas though G. 'Castlegar' is the one I watch for before Christmas and it is not quite as well up as Three Ships.

Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: johnw on December 18, 2013, 03:31:12 PM
Thanks Alan, I'll pass this on to Carol.

john
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Alan_b on December 21, 2013, 09:02:54 AM
John, just to prove that I am not talking out of my hat, here are two different nameless elwesiis flowering in my garden yesterday.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: uvularia on December 21, 2013, 11:45:16 PM
I seem to have a G. rizehensis out in flower from last Wednesday. Does that seem early?
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on December 22, 2013, 12:43:16 AM
From my recollection of past posts of  G. rizehensis flowering , I think that around third week of January seemed about average -  yours must be keen!
Are you seeing early growth in other spring bulbs?
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 22, 2013, 08:21:57 AM
I seem to have a G. rizehensis out in flower from last Wednesday. Does that seem early?

It does to me, mine are barely through outside!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 22, 2013, 03:05:25 PM
Does anyone know what elwesii Rowallane is supposed to look like? Mine bought in 2011 and flowering for the first time looks like G. elwesii Hiemalis Group
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on December 22, 2013, 03:27:35 PM
Photo of Rowallane and note from Paddy T.  that the pic is not right, here :  https://www.facebook.com/rhsihome/posts/305179349604825 (https://www.facebook.com/rhsihome/posts/305179349604825)    it does look quite like the one you showed here : http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8695.msg235830#msg235830 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8695.msg235830#msg235830)   as not being Rowallane.  :-\


 Quote from Paddy : "The photograph (on RHSI) does not match the description - Very bold grey foliage, distinct difference between enclosed and enclosing leaf with latter much wider. Flowers puckered, rounded outer segments. Inner segment very distinct - top heavy X mark with basal portion filled in with small thin legs legs above the sinus notch. I haven't seen it for sale."
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 22, 2013, 05:03:43 PM
Thanks Maggi. I don't have a record of where I photographed the one with the tiny dots and cant remember where I got mine which is also wrong - big sigh.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on December 22, 2013, 05:06:53 PM
The "wrong" one with the tiny dots is cute though, isn't it?
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: uvularia on December 22, 2013, 05:34:22 PM
It does to me, mine are barely through outside!

Interesting. I have two clones. The second clone isn't even showing. I will get a photo if it stops raining! I can be certain it is the correct
species.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 22, 2013, 05:41:48 PM
A couple of rubbish photos from today.

elwesii 'Haydn' with a turned back spathe. Both flowers in a pot in the plunge have the same shaped spathe.
snogerupii with a marking that looks too small. All three flowers are the same
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hans A. on December 22, 2013, 09:25:47 PM
Hans what is the green tipped snowdrop?

Hello Mark, the green tipped is not named (as I know) - first picture show it again. Then 'Smaragdsplitter' and 'Sheds and Outhouses'.
Last picture shows a group of other Galanthus elwesii monostictus growing next to Stipa gigantea and a few selfsown Oncocyclusiris.
All Galanthus flower this year about one month later than normal because of the warm and dry autumn.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 22, 2013, 10:53:46 PM
Hello Mark, the green tipped is not named (as I know) - first picture show it again. Then 'Smaragdsplitter' and 'Sheds and Outhouses'.
Well Hans , I think they are all good to have flowering at this time of the year.  My ( new) 'Smaragdsplitter' is without green on the outers this year, so I look forward to next Autumn when I hope it will have settled down.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 22, 2013, 11:02:54 PM
Good selection of plants Hans
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Ru on December 23, 2013, 11:16:04 AM
Magnificent plants, Hans!
I suspect that plants similar to this (gem1.2-Smaragdsplitter.jpg) can be periclinal chimeras. You tried to do chips of the such?
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: snowdropcollector on December 23, 2013, 10:03:18 PM
This weekend I found this great snowdrop from Ru flowering, Emerald Bells  ;D. A real beauty !!!!!!
Congratulations with this find Ru.

And a happy Christmas for all of you  :D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Ru on December 23, 2013, 10:06:06 PM
!!!I'm very glad!!!
It was the real gift by Christmas! ! !
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: mark smyth on December 23, 2013, 10:38:57 PM
wow that must be the best virescent snowdrop - ever
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 23, 2013, 10:58:34 PM
Wow, very beautyful. Is even more green possible?  :o
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 23, 2013, 11:02:21 PM
That is a stunner Richard!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Alan_b on December 23, 2013, 11:29:24 PM
It's a fantastic snowdrop but more of an inverse poculiform than a conventional virescent type. 
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Ru on December 23, 2013, 11:58:30 PM
Yes, here two genes of "inverse poculiform" and a gene (genes) "completely green internal petal" very successfully work.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 24, 2013, 08:55:20 AM
Is it one that you have deliberately bred then Ru?
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Ru on December 24, 2013, 09:12:04 AM
No, it was the lucky find. But nearby some hybrids with it grew. I had opportunity to see and draw certain conclusions.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 24, 2013, 10:08:30 AM
A lucky find indeed Ru, congratulations!

Nature is the best breeder ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Ru on December 24, 2013, 10:53:43 AM
Thanks! I wait for blossoming of snowdrops, with impatience. This year much more trips are planned. And not less than 5 species for search.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hans J on December 24, 2013, 12:51:21 PM
now today ( after a long time silence ) some pics from here :

Galanthus snogerupii ( ex Glen Chantry )
Galanthus fosterii
Galanthus cilicicus
Galanthus elwesii v. monostictus

After the horrible last winter year where so many snowdrops are died but have I received from some nice friends a replacement ...I'm now more carefully and so I grow all this tender snowdrops in pots in my greenhouse ( if it is warm enough so I take the trays outside )
Today is it unusual warm here ...we have 15° with some sun and a lot of wind

My best wishes for all snowdrop friends for a Merry Christmas  :D
...and maybe St.Claus will bring you a lot of new plants

Hans
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: de.da. on December 24, 2013, 12:57:11 PM
Hi!
This is my last snowdrop this year.
Buyed at September.



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G. regiae-olgae

Kind regars- Daniel
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Thomas Seiler on December 25, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
Merry Christmas to all with these two shots from my garden yesterday:
G. elwesii 'Peter Gatehouse'
G. 'Faringdon Double'

Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Oakwood on December 25, 2013, 12:41:10 PM
now today ( after a long time silence ) some pics from here :

Galanthus snogerupii ( ex Glen Chantry )
Galanthus fosterii
Galanthus cilicicus
Galanthus elwesii v. monostictus

After the horrible last winter year where so many snowdrops are died but have I received from some nice friends a replacement ...I'm now more carefully and so I grow all this tender snowdrops in pots in my greenhouse ( if it is warm enough so I take the trays outside )
Today is it unusual warm here ...we have 15° with some sun and a lot of wind

My best wishes for all snowdrop friends for a Merry Christmas  :D
...and maybe St.Claus will bring you a lot of new plants

Hans

hi Hans, nice drops! great to hear from you beginning your new Galanthus collection! very good news!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hans J on December 25, 2013, 02:04:31 PM
hi Hans, nice drops! great to hear from you beginning your new Galanthus collection! very good news!  ;D ;D

Thank you Dima  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: MR GRUMPY on December 25, 2013, 07:26:02 PM
wow that must be the best virescent snowdrop - ever
I second that. :o :o :o
 Ru,That is the best  plicatus i've seen,too!. ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Ru on December 25, 2013, 10:39:08 PM
Thanks, MR GRUMPY.  It is pleasant to me to read it.
I consider this snowdrop as one of my three best finds.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Tony Willis on December 26, 2013, 10:53:08 AM
A couple of mine in flower now

Galanthus rhizahensis from Sochi a gift from Olga

Galanthus fosteri a gift from Norman Stevens
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Maggi Young on December 26, 2013, 11:29:48 AM
Snazzy gifts, Tony - beats Santa pretty well, eh?  8)
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 26, 2013, 11:45:17 AM
now today ( after a long time silence ) some pics from here :

Galanthus snogerupii ( ex Glen Chantry )
Galanthus fosterii
Galanthus cilicicus
Galanthus elwesii v. monostictus

After the horrible last winter year where so many snowdrops are died but have I received from some nice friends a replacement ...I'm now more carefully and so I grow all this tender snowdrops in pots in my greenhouse ( if it is warm enough so I take the trays outside )
Today is it unusual warm here ...we have 15° with some sun and a lot of wind


My best wishes for all snowdrop friends for a Merry Christmas  :D
...and maybe St.Claus will bring you a lot of new plants

Hans

Lovely to see you posting your snowdrops again, Hans. I was delighted to see 'Hans Guck in de Luft' showing in the garden yesterday.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hans J on December 26, 2013, 12:20:21 PM
Lovely to see you posting your snowdrops again, Hans. I was delighted to see 'Hans Guck in de Luft' showing in the garden yesterday.


Many thanks Paddy  :D

It is unbelievable for me that "Hans guck .." is so far from my plants -here nothing to see ( until now )

Hans
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Ru on December 26, 2013, 01:17:13 PM
A couple of mine in flower now

Galanthus rhizahensis from Sochi a gift from Olga

Galanthus fosteri a gift from Norman Stevens
Are very good, Tony!

It today, in the greenhouse.
Galanthus plicatus. (http://cs309618.vk.me/v309618301/56bc/QnqGrVnqnEI.jpg (http://cs309618.vk.me/v309618301/56bc/QnqGrVnqnEI.jpg))
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 26, 2013, 04:38:25 PM
I can understand your feelings Ru.
You are happy.
Goes together with Christmas!!!
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 27, 2013, 10:02:25 PM
Here now my next elwesii- find ( reply 34) in flower  :D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Thomas Seiler on December 28, 2013, 11:56:09 PM
Quite unusual, if they are in flower right now in central Europe and not in a greenhouse.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 29, 2013, 07:52:24 AM
Maybe it's the warm weather????
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 29, 2013, 08:33:08 AM
Morning Uwe,
I agree with Thomas.
Such a lot of green inside is very unusual. At this time of the year.
You should protect the plant very good, if it is in the open garden.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 29, 2013, 11:15:55 AM
A lovely plant, Uwe
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 29, 2013, 12:41:29 PM
Is that still " monostictus" or already " ssp. elwesii " ?
It is potted and outdoor.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: snowdropcollector on December 29, 2013, 12:54:51 PM
Uwe, great snowdrop again. You are very Lucky  :o to find all those in your bulbs.
Please keep in mind that when it starts freezing that you move the pots in a cold shed. It would be waste when the pots and bulbs would get totally frozen.
I lost several cultivars in the winter of 2011, and they were planted into the ground, not in pots. All totally black frozen  :-[.
We had no snow and is was freezing - 21 degrees, and the sun was shinning during daytime, with a little wind.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 29, 2013, 02:36:16 PM
Nobody can give you an answer, Uwe. It can be monostictus, and I think so. But it can be also elewesii var. elwesii.
Normally the monostictus start to bloom. All early elwesii are monostictus, as long as I know.
Your plant has whole green inner segments. I would think it is a big apical mark and not the result of apical and basal mark together.

Ich würde denken, das viele innere Grün kommt von einem vergrößerten Hufeisen und nicht vom Verschmelzen von apicaler und basaler Markierung.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 29, 2013, 03:33:35 PM
Many thanks to all. I will protect the plant when it freezes strongly and i plant out in spring.
Still 2  Elwesii  with green come in a few days to flowering. :D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hans A. on December 29, 2013, 09:32:25 PM
Great snowdrops Uwe!

All early elwesii are monostictus, as long as I know.
Hagen, seems there are always exceptions of a rule, here is actually a nice one in flower, as all Galanthus are very late this year I checked some pictures to know when it flowers in a normal season, it was Beginning of December last year.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 30, 2013, 08:01:30 AM
Hello Hans,
your garden is a little more in the south, so you should have also the Gee some days/weeks earlier. I also have a few Gees, flowering today in the glasshouse. But all your other very noble galanthus (elwesii) ;), you showed us in December were "only" Gems, I think.
If you have too much of them....

How do you think about Uwes find?
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Paddy Tobin on December 30, 2013, 09:18:52 AM
Galanthus 'Castlegar' on December 29th
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Brian Ellis on December 30, 2013, 10:22:36 AM
Lovely to have those marks so early on a snowdrop Uwe, a lucky find indeed.

Great to see your Castlegar in bloom Paddy, mine, of course, is way behind ;)
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hagen Engelmann on December 30, 2013, 10:32:45 AM
You always show us the best group pictures, Paddy.
The much green is coming from the pic?
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: snowdropcollector on December 30, 2013, 11:42:10 AM
Nice group of Castlegar Paddy, mine are just showing like Brian's.

Uwe, you still have a few to come with green on the outers...... :), please post pictures when they flower. Always good to see
snowdrops with green on the outers.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Hans A. on December 30, 2013, 12:44:36 PM
Hello Hans,
your garden is a little more in the south, so you should have also the Gee some days/weeks earlier. I also have a few Gees, flowering today in the glasshouse. But all your other very noble galanthus (elwesii) ;), you showed us in December were "only" Gems, I think.
If you have too much of them....

How do you think about Uwes find?


You are right, Hagen - as my garden is more in the south than those of most Galanthusgrower in the forum, the climatical conditions are different - normally they start to flower later and stop to flower earlier because of the heat.
A few years ago I bought several pots with flowering Galanthus elwesii, mainly var. monostictus as I knew they flower earlier than var. elwesii. Think I have lost most of the var elwesii as normally growing period is to short for them here, while var. monostictus grows well and produce seedlings, unfortunately the most beautiful ones (mostly gifts) increase very slowly - hope by sowing seeds of them I will get some nice profilic plants with a lot of green which are adapted to the mediterranean conditions.

Uwes plants are very promising, they have to be observed the following years if the tips are stable. My experience: The better the conditions the better the green. Cold winter may not help very much the early ones.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: johngennard on December 30, 2013, 03:08:04 PM
No exotics I am afraid but a nice clump of Three Ships
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Alan_b on December 30, 2013, 04:09:20 PM
That's a fantastic display.  Calling those snowdrops a clump is like calling a forest a copse. 
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Uwe on December 30, 2013, 05:34:54 PM
Hello John,
very nice clump of Three Ships. I hope in few years i have also those clump of variuos snowdrops. I'm  still a beginner.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Leena on December 30, 2013, 06:47:54 PM
That's a fantastic display.  Calling those snowdrops a clump is like calling a forest a copse.

I was just thinking the same.  :)
Really nice view! Like Uwe I'm a beginner but maybe someday I can see a lot of snowdrops in my garden, too. Though here it will be April when the snowdrops flower.
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: uvularia on December 30, 2013, 11:34:13 PM
I was just wondering if anyone had an idea what this G. elwesii could be flowering now?
Sorry about the photo quality..getting a tad dark.

Glorious clump of Three Ships, John
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: ichristie on December 31, 2013, 01:23:33 PM
Hello all, thanks to everyone for posting the snowdrop pictures ours are just beginning despite the wettest December, this is the last day of the year so Very Best wishes to all may your snowdrops grow in abundance,  cheers Ian the Christie
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Gerard Oud on December 31, 2013, 06:31:40 PM
The last day of December 2013! I do wish everyone lost of good snowdrops and all the best for 2014.

Last pic of 2013; one of the first wild plicatusses flowering today! From a wellknown person from the east ;D
Title: Re: Galanthus in December 2013
Post by: Gerard Oud on December 31, 2013, 06:35:04 PM
This weekend I found this great snowdrop from Ru flowering, Emerald Bells  ;D. A real beauty !!!!!!
Congratulations with this find Ru.

And a happy Christmas for all of you  :D
Can we give thumbs up, like on facebook for this one??? ;D
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