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Title: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Irm on September 01, 2013, 04:44:56 PM
There are no interesting plants in my garden, but I hope, you show me yours  :D
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: fermi de Sousa on September 02, 2013, 12:26:52 AM
That daisy looks pretty intewresting to me!
I've never seen it growing here,
cheers
fermi
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: angie on September 02, 2013, 08:51:59 AM
Such a lovely flower. Not much interest in my garden at this time of year but will take the camera out and see what I can find.

Angie  :)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 02, 2013, 11:26:46 AM
There are no interesting plants in my garden, but I hope, you show me yours  :D
Berkheya purpurea is  very interesting  -  I don't think many of us associate thistles with Africa!
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on September 02, 2013, 02:45:32 PM
Interesting indeed, but it has a tendency to wander and is now appearing in the lawn!
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: David King on September 02, 2013, 04:24:20 PM
This is gracing our kitchen window sill at the moment.  Its a Crinodendrum Clerodendrum ugandense and a pretty little thing it is too.  Given to us by a generous forum member.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 02, 2013, 04:43:20 PM
How lovely - but a Clerodendrum  I think?  ;)

Clerodendrum ugandense Prain   - synonym of Rotheca myricoides subsp. myricoides
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on September 02, 2013, 04:53:40 PM
Quite right Maggi, my fault as I was thinking of snowdrops at the time ???
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 02, 2013, 08:03:18 PM
What an interesting flower structure - very perky!
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on September 02, 2013, 08:28:15 PM
What an interesting flower structure - very perky!

It's a good job it isn't pink Anne ;D
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: annew on September 03, 2013, 08:52:40 AM
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: shelagh on September 03, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
Looking good in the garden today are the following.

An Anaphyllis which a friend gave us as a plug plant has done really well.

The Cyclamen hederifolium are just coming.

Foliage wise I just love this Polemonium and the Sedum close by.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: shelagh on September 03, 2013, 02:52:11 PM
I really hate the big Golden Rod so when Brian purchased a Solidago I was very suspicious, can't help but love this little thing though  The second picture has a 10p piece next to it for scale.

Also seen this morning a visitor we didn't recognise and had to look up. Sorry the picture isn't perfect the little so and so kept flying off.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: shelagh on September 04, 2013, 11:20:19 AM
Been out again today the day started dull but the cloud seems to be clearing now.

Clematis Arabella was bought earlier this year and is definitely a winner.
This Dianthus actually is called Gran's favourite and it is one of mine it's a pity you can't add scent to the forum.
The Erigeron has been flowering for months and is still looking good.
Rose Holcombe Honey is one of champion Rose grower Tony Bracegirdle's which he gave us last year.  Another one with a beautiful honey perfume hence the name.
Roscoea Red Gurkha is a very useful late flowerer in the scree garden.

Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: shelagh on September 04, 2013, 11:21:49 AM
Sorry I couldn't fit this in with the others.  A little Townsendia with a big name.

Townsendia alpigena var. caelilinensis
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 04, 2013, 04:24:24 PM
Quite right Maggi, my fault as I was thinking of snowdrops at the time ???

What? Blue ones now?
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 04, 2013, 04:34:43 PM
What? Blue ones now?

Bless 'im- I think it's connected with the pink elephants he sees from time to time - it's an odd thing but happily not at all life-threatening.  :)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on September 04, 2013, 06:49:37 PM
Bless 'im- I think it's connected with the pink elephants he sees from time to time - it's an odd thing but happily not at all life-threatening.  :)

I'm pleased I have no reason to worry unduly.  I was updating my database when the call came from on high for a name so my brain (what little remains) was scrambled...well that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :D
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Catwheazle on September 08, 2013, 12:29:00 PM
Carlina acaulis in my garden   :)

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Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: brianw on September 08, 2013, 11:27:14 PM
I thought this Chlerodendrum was (spring) blossom when I drove past it last week. Had to go back with a camera and check it out. Stunning perfume. The owners might have thought it odd a stranger smelling their tree. Not many trees covered in flowers this time of year.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: astragalus on September 09, 2013, 03:38:56 PM
Love the Carlina acaulis in flower.  Mine is budded so I have hopes to see the blooms before hard frost.  Blooming now is Belamcanda chinensis.  The yellow form finished before I could photograph it.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 09, 2013, 03:45:10 PM
So does the Belamcanda chinensis live outside all year/in the ground, Anne?  I suppose you can normally rely on some snow cover so is that the answer?
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Tim Ingram on September 09, 2013, 04:09:08 PM
We have just visited a friends garden and they are growing a variegated form of Clerodendron trichotomum, 'Carnival'. Wonderful scent as Brian says, and it is likely to be much more slow growing than the parent variety. After flowering this plant has deep purple-blue berries set against the red calyces; it has a lot going for it, apart from the rather pungent leaves!
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Roma on September 09, 2013, 08:33:44 PM
Gentiana asclepiada
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: astragalus on September 10, 2013, 03:06:52 AM
So does the Belamcanda chinensis live outside all year/in the ground, Anne?  I suppose you can normally rely on some snow cover so is that the answer?


Maggi, the belamcanda lives outside and seeds itself prolifically because its owner is a bit negligent.  The yellow form is more sparing in self-seeding.  Our snow cover is not something we can count on any more and we may have several "open" periods during the winter.  Is it not supposed to be hardy?
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 10, 2013, 11:07:58 AM
Well, I didn't think it was hardy, Anne - but , to be honest, that may just be something that I presumed - I know it needs good drainage to avoid rot in the winter and it may be that I translated that in my mind to "not hardy" ....... :-\   



Added info!
From Peter Goldblatt's CV  here :
http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/Portals/0/staff/PDFs/goldblatt/cvpg.pdf (http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/Portals/0/staff/PDFs/goldblatt/cvpg.pdf)
 I see that in 2005 Belamcanda was transferred to  now be Iris domestica     ( Sigh!)

Belamcanda Adanson included inIris Linnaeus, and the new combination, I. domestica(Linnaeus) Goldblatt & Mabberley (Iridaceae: Iridaceae). Novon 15: 128–132. 2005 [with D. J. Mabberley].
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: astragalus on September 10, 2013, 03:20:38 PM
The belamcanda has been growing here for some years with and without winter snow cover.  Now that I've learned that there is a question of hardiness, it will probably die this winter!!
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: astragalus on September 10, 2013, 03:37:58 PM
Maggi, after a little research I learned that Belamcanda chinensis should be hardy to -30F.  That's pretty hardy.  The yellow form I grow is called "hello yellow" and is quite lovely, just not as prolific.  They can flop after a heavy downpour but I just prop them up again.  They really require no care at all and the seeds are very black and attractive, although they are poisonous.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 10, 2013, 04:09:14 PM
The belamcanda has been growing here for some years with and without winter snow cover.  Now that I've learned that there is a question of hardiness, it will probably die this winter!!
Crumbs, that would be awful - don't let them read my musings, for goodness sake!

I agree, Anne -  minus 30 F is pretty darn cold-  it must have been the  need for good drainage that clicked over in my head to being not hardy.  Little grey cells are obviously working on their own account rather than mine  :-X
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 10, 2013, 04:59:47 PM
re: Belamcanda

I've seen it in gardens here anbd doing well.

johnw
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 10, 2013, 05:10:15 PM
Thanks John -  I must clearly think more closely about my perceptions of such flowers. Exciting to think these exotic looking flowers might be happy here!
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: brianw on September 10, 2013, 11:27:37 PM
re: Belamcanda

Seed of the yellow form I sowed indoors end of last year is in flower now (outside), and has been for a few weeks. Do they self seed outside in Canada or is the season too short?
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: rgc on September 11, 2013, 12:34:00 PM
Hi
I only joined the SRGC a fortnight ago and so am very much a newbie and this is my first post. I have attached a picture of Gentian 'Lucerna' taken yesterday in my garden. Not sure of the variety of the light blue gentian flowers in the foreground - promise to be more careful in recording purchases in the future as labels do get lost.

Gentian 'Lucerna' started flowering a couple of weeks ago and is significantly earlier than my sino-ornata which is still in bud.
Bob
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 11, 2013, 01:52:50 PM
Hello Bob, and a very warm welcome to you!

It's a real joy when the glorious autumn gentians flower, isn't it? And yours are looking very healthy. Super clump of 'Lucerna'. 
The pale blue one has that fabulous Farreri-like colour  and may well be one of the 'Silken Skies'  hybrids raised by the Levers at Aberconwy...... or should that be 'Silken Star'? 
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 11, 2013, 01:57:21 PM
Hello Bob, and a very warm welcome to you!

It's a real joy when the glorious autumn gentians flower, isn't it? And yours are looking very healthy. Super clump of 'Lucerna'. 
The pale blue one has that fabulous Farreri-like colour  and may well be one of the 'Silken Skies'  hybrids raised by the Levers at Aberconwy...... or should that be 'Silken Star'? 

Ian McNaughton has raised several in that colour, such as 'Braemar'  ( from MacPlants)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 11, 2013, 07:21:35 PM
Welcome Bob, you'll like it here. Gentians don't do well in my part of the UK (or maybe in my case the grower makes a botch of them!) your's seem to thrive though. 'Lucerna' is a double, here's MartinR's close-up picture from the 2008 Ponteland Show

http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2452.msg58688#msg58688 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=2452.msg58688#msg58688)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Roma on September 11, 2013, 07:33:31 PM
David, I don't think Gentiana 'Lucerna' is double.  'Eugen's Allerbester is the only double I have come across.  See Edrom Nurseries list of gentians.  They have a huge selection.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 11, 2013, 07:50:30 PM
Looks double on Martin's pic above Roma and he considered it to be double. Maybe it was wrongly named at the Show.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 11, 2013, 10:55:38 PM
I think the Ponteland plant  must have been mislabelled-  I'm pretty sure 'Lucerna' is a single.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: François Lambert on September 12, 2013, 01:05:28 PM
September means the first apples, the first pears and sugar plums ready to be picked from the tree ...

But there's something new flowering this year !  For the first time I have Hedychium Coccineum flowering.  I purchased the rhizome 4 years ago and in the first year it grew one shoot of just 10 cm.  Each next year it has grown a new taller shoot and this year finally I have my first flower.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: François Lambert on September 12, 2013, 01:21:43 PM
Yet another surprise : a hardy begonia flowering

I received some years ago a few tiny bulbils of different hardy begonia's.  In their first 2 years they hardly grew to plants more than 5 cm high, in the third year I forgot to place them outside (I was a bit disappointed by the weak growth) so they spent one and a half year in dry dormancy, at some moment last fall I moved the pots to an unheated barn where they spent winter and were exposed to quite heavy frost.  I assumed they were dead, so as i always do I reused the potting soil for another plant ... and suddenly something that resembles to a begonia started growing in June !  looking at the flower it makes me think this one could be Begonia evansiana, however the foliage looks more like an annual seed Begonia on a steroids diet.

btw ... the plant that's supposed to grow in this pot is a Hardy Hippeastrum 'nenette'.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 12, 2013, 06:45:54 PM
Oops! My apologies- this thread was accidentally "locked" - I've fixed that now.
I really must  get new spectacles   :-\ :-[
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: angie on September 12, 2013, 07:07:18 PM
Oops! My apologies- this thread was accidentally "locked" - I've fixed that now.
I really must  get new spectacles   :-\ :-[

Me to. I thought I was getting a bargain today, without my glasses on I bought a shrub at £9.99, never saw the 2 infront of it  ::) old age is catching me up  :'(

Angie  :)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Roma on September 12, 2013, 09:51:25 PM
Me to. I thought I was getting a bargain today, without my glasses on I bought a shrub at £9.99, never saw the 2 infront of it  ::) old age is catching me up  :'(

Angie  :)
Oh dear, Angie that was a BIG mistake.  Hope it was something really exciting.

A pretty picture in the garden
In the greenhouse - another pretty picture
Tweedia caerulea
Thunbergia alata 'African Sunset'
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: angie on September 12, 2013, 10:17:01 PM
Lovely colour there Roma.
Just thought I would pick up some cheap shrubs to give to my niece for her new garden. Next time glasses on. This isn't the first time I have done this  ::) :-X

Angie  :)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: fredg on September 15, 2013, 01:11:29 PM
A couple of inflorescences from Drosera adelae. These monsters are about 3mm across  ::)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2814/9758645443_440e9be5b9_o.jpg)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 15, 2013, 01:19:37 PM
A couple of inflorescences from Drosera adelae. These monsters are about 3mm across  ::)

Spectacular little chaps! Must be their small size that makes shaving so tricky....... ::)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 15, 2013, 06:45:31 PM
I planted this bulb years ago at the base of the garage wall, and until now it has done nothing except put up a clump of leaves in the spring. Suddenly these 3ft long flowering stems appear! It been these so long I have forgotten what it is, but could it be Amaryllis belladonna?
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 15, 2013, 06:50:48 PM
Lavandula pubescens, not hardy but a prolific self-seeder in the polytunnel.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 15, 2013, 07:02:58 PM
British wildflowers: wild Chicory (Chichorium intybus) growing on the chalk of the North Downs near Wye, Kent yesterday.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Catwheazle on September 16, 2013, 10:12:37 AM
Cyclamen cilicium ... fist time flowering  ;D

greetings
Bernd

Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ruweiss on September 16, 2013, 09:33:30 PM
Tremacron aurantiacum, a strange and beautiful Gesneriaceae.
Many thanks once more to the generous forumist who gave
me this plant 3 years ago.
Cyclamen mirabile flowers rather late in the Alpine House.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Paul T on September 19, 2013, 08:56:22 AM
Spectacular little chaps! Must be their small size that makes shaving so tricky....... ::)

Maggi, apparently beards are considered sexy at the moment.  Maybe they're just following trend. :P

That really is a brilliant, Drosera, Fred.  What does the whole plant look like?

Rudi, that Tremacron aurantiacum is smashing.  Another Gesneriad I'd never heard of.

Thanks for the lovely pics.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 19, 2013, 11:40:17 AM
Dahlia coccinea Great Dixter Form and Dahlia sorensenii
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: KentGardener on September 19, 2013, 12:57:57 PM
Hi All

I'm just coming out of my dormant stage!   ;)

A very quick pic of the garden before it goes dormant.

John
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Roma on September 19, 2013, 02:14:38 PM
Welcome back Paul and John.
Love that tropical look, John.  It's just as well I can't grow exotic plants outside here.  Is that Begonia luxurians on the right.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: KentGardener on September 19, 2013, 02:17:58 PM
Thanks.  :)

It is indeed Begonia luxurians.  A few friends have reported it as "almost hardy" in their gardens.   it is going indoors here again this winter.  ;)  Too beautiful to lose. 
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: K-D Keller on September 19, 2013, 08:51:33 PM
Five September pictures

Crinum moorei, Cyananthus microphyllus, Lithops dorotheae, Roscoea alpina, Clematis Helios
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: johnw on September 20, 2013, 05:19:25 PM
Viburnum betuloides  today - these will become a very waxy red in time.

johnw
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: fredg on September 22, 2013, 11:47:28 AM
Carrying on my carnivorous theme :D a bit of foliage.

Darlingtonia californica

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3719/9871587935_1faa6db419_o.jpg)

It was hanging over the side of one of my colonies so it's now in its own half tray.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: astragalus on September 22, 2013, 03:04:09 PM
Each year this gets better.

Sedum cauticola v lidakense
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Catwheazle on September 22, 2013, 03:45:16 PM
@Fredg
 :o how do you cultivate your darlingtonia? I had heard they need cool temp. at roots ?

Bernd
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: fredg on September 22, 2013, 04:04:58 PM
@Fredg
 :o how do you cultivate your darlingtonia? I had heard they need cool temp. at roots ?

Bernd

I heard the myth too :D
It depends what you mean by cool, mine reached 90F at one point this summer.
I logged air and root temperatures this summer and the raw data is available online if you wish to see it. http://floridacpsociety.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=cobra&action=display&thread=784 (http://floridacpsociety.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=cobra&action=display&thread=784)

My plants are grown in live sphagnum moss, in undrained trays.
If you wish I could start a new thread :D
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Catwheazle on September 22, 2013, 06:34:49 PM
Thanks :-)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ruweiss on September 22, 2013, 09:06:07 PM
Flowering today in the Alpine house.
I got the Oxalis from a Viking gardener at the
plant sale in Tabor, a nice souvenir of this
unforgetable event.
The Viola is the smallest species I know, it origins
from the Iran where it grows in company with
Dionysia khatamii.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on September 22, 2013, 10:09:56 PM
Flowering today in the Alpine house.
I got the Oxalis from a Viking gardener at the
plant sale in Tabor, a nice souvenir of this
unforgetable event.

A very fine form , that Oxalis with the dark eye Rudi ! Stunning thing ....I suppose it is a adenophylla form ?
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: ruweiss on September 23, 2013, 09:29:28 PM
Hello Kris, thank you for your friendly comment. You could be right ,that the dark-eyed
Oxalis is a form of O.adenophylla. I am only an amateur gardener, but maybe some experts
among the forumists know it.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Hans J on September 24, 2013, 11:21:34 AM
Here is flowering Solanum pyracanthum  :D

I have shown the first pic under puzzle 2013

Hans  8)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Pete Clarke on September 24, 2013, 07:56:26 PM
Colletia hystrix - putting on the best flowering display I have seen since growing it from seed.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: François Lambert on September 25, 2013, 12:07:38 PM
Here's another autumn beauty : Nepeta.  Started to flower sometime in June I think, maybe even end of May, flowers somewhat less over the summer just to move on  to a smashing flower display now.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Roma on September 25, 2013, 09:15:41 PM
Autumn gentians are starting to flower

Gentiana 'Braemar'
Gentiana 'Purity'
Gentiana 'Silken Night'
Gentiana 'Silken Seas'
Gentiana 'Silken Star Group'
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Roma on September 25, 2013, 09:17:16 PM
Sedum cyaneum
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: astragalus on September 25, 2013, 10:33:40 PM
Beautiful gentians.  I guess that's what you can grow when you have water (sigh...).
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on September 25, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
Autumn gentians are starting to flower
Gentiana 'Braemar'
Gentiana 'Purity'
Gentiana 'Silken Night'
Gentiana 'Silken Seas'
Gentiana 'Silken Star Group'

 :o Al beautys Roma and my favorite is 'Silken Star Group ' !  I tried this one 2 times without succes ....
So maybe we can't grow them in our situation ...as Anne suggests , it needs maybe more water .....
I wan't to give a last try (next saturday I wil look in Kent .....)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 26, 2013, 09:34:15 AM
Lovely display of Gentians Roma. I've tried them a couple of times, without success, first in pots where they were short of water and faded away and secondly in a peaty bed in the garden where they flowered magnificently for one year and didn't come back for a second year. How do you grow them please?
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Roma on September 26, 2013, 07:47:53 PM
Most of my autumn gentians are in pots.  I was struggling to keep them watered this year.  They were repotted last year and did not flower well but I think that was due to the dull wet summer.  This year they got lots of sun and are covered in buds.  They do need sun to set buds this far north but it is usually temperature, not sun which opens the flowers.   They have been fed 2 or 3 times with an ericaceous liquid feed.
I had some planted out, an unnamed seedling which did well for a year or two then seemed to be losing roots in the Spring.  When I forked over the ground I found lots of leather-jackets.
I think they need a fairly rich soil and  need splitting up and replanting every few years.  Some can last longer than others without replanting.  I have a small patch of 'Strathmore' which has not been moved for maybe 10 years.  Must rescue it soon.  x 'Caroli' is one which needs frequent splitting and moving.  It is a glorious colour but I left it too long and no longer have it.  I think those derived from Gentiana farreri are less tolerant of less than ideal conditions.
They should have done well in your peaty bed, David.  You get plenty water.
I have seen pictures of Gentiana sino-ornata in the wild and it is usually growing in boggy conditions though I do not think it likes to be that wet in cultivation.     

 
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on September 26, 2013, 08:04:06 PM
Thanks Roma ! Very interesting .
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: David Nicholson on September 26, 2013, 08:27:54 PM
Many thanks Roma, I shall try them again next year.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Tim Ingram on September 26, 2013, 09:46:47 PM
Going back a few posts - Pete that plant of Colletia hystrix is exciting to see. Not an alpine (!) but the only place I have seen it before was outside the previous alpine house at Kew, and it made a superb free-flowering shrub. I shall look out for seed.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: astragalus on September 29, 2013, 03:25:29 PM
I've shown this plant elsewhere on the Forum but it just keeps getting better and better and I can't stop photographing it!  Mea culpa.
Zauschneria californica 'etteri'
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 29, 2013, 03:37:59 PM
Heck, Anne, if you've got it, flaunt it!  ;)   A  Super plant.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: astragalus on September 29, 2013, 05:04:08 PM
Thanks, Maggi.  I think the zauschnerias are fabulous in the garden and they start blooming in August until heavy frost, what could be better?
Also blooming now is Chrysanthemum weyrichii, probably quite common but for me, there's nothing nicer than daisies underfoot.

Chrysanthemum weyrichii
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 29, 2013, 05:10:26 PM
I'd be agreeing even more happily if the Zauschneria didn't last such a short time here, expiring without leaving seed...... :P

Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: krisderaeymaeker on September 29, 2013, 07:33:29 PM
I've shown this plant elsewhere on the Forum but it just keeps getting better and better and I can't stop photographing it!  Mea culpa.
Zauschneria californica 'etteri'

Great colour Anne , and it's an ideal combination with "the Indian Summer" .....   
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: astragalus on September 29, 2013, 09:04:10 PM
Maggi, have you tried the dwarf zauschnerias?  They seem to be tougher for some reason.  They all want super drainage, some of them are semi-desert plants.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on September 29, 2013, 09:12:15 PM
It is only the dwarf
Maggi, have you tried the dwarf zauschnerias?  They seem to be tougher for some reason.  They all want super drainage, some of them are semi-desert plants.
I think our usual summer wet is what kills them here, Anne and of course our winters can be too wet as well....  I've tried your little red beauty several times and watched it fade away.
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Post by: johnralphcarpenter on September 30, 2013, 07:43:27 PM
Dahlia merckii and Camellia sinensis in the garden today.
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Post by: meanie on November 27, 2013, 05:49:41 PM
This is gracing our kitchen window sill at the moment.  Its a Crinodendrum Clerodendrum ugandense and a pretty little thing it is too.  Given to us by a generous forum member.

Glad that it bloomed for you! Trust me, in three or four years it'll not be a little thing any more! Good news is that cuttings strike very easily. Mine goes in the ground next year as I now have good sized back up plants (which there is a 99% chance that they will be needed).
I actually got three seeds from mine this year which is a first in all the years that I've had mine.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 27, 2013, 06:38:46 PM
Glad that it bloomed for you! Trust me, in three or four years it'll not be a little thing any more! Good news is that cuttings strike very easily. Mine goes in the ground next year as I now have good sized back up plants (which there is a 99% chance that they will be needed).
I actually got three seeds from mine this year which is a first in all the years that I've had mine.

Thanks again, I think it would have flowered again if the weather had not turned colder!  Will take cuttings in the spring.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Maggi Young on November 27, 2013, 06:42:16 PM
..... I think it would have flowered again if the weather had not turned colder! 

I like  it when plants show an inclination to repeat flower - even if the weather conspires against them doing so  , that "showing willing" is a good sign to me
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on November 27, 2013, 08:04:54 PM
C.ugandense flowers in flushes here. After a flush it will put on some fresh growth and then bloom again, and so on. Loves lots of water by the way.
Mine is still outdoors. A frost will finally hit it hard enough to defoliate it, at which point I'll bring it indoors and touch wood it'll be in bloom at Christmas. Then it will go into the big shed for the rest of winter.
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Post by: Maggi Young on November 27, 2013, 08:10:49 PM
That's a pretty impressive performance for an African plant in the UK - I'd never have thought it would cope.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on November 27, 2013, 08:26:01 PM
That's a pretty impressive performance for an African plant in the UK - I'd never have thought it would cope.

That was my reaction the first time that I let it catch a frost! But it is a few years old now in a big pot. I doubt that it would appreciate being abused like that for months on end, but a short spell seems ok. I'll find out spring 2015, because as I said it's in the ground next year.
On a similar theme, I find it to be a good way to get my Cymbidiums to bloom reliably.
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: Brian Ellis on November 27, 2013, 10:31:49 PM
Loves lots of water by the way.

Perhaps I was too cautious at giving too much water at this time of the year, you live and learn ;)
Title: Re: September 2013 in the Northern Hemisphere
Post by: meanie on November 27, 2013, 11:30:54 PM
Perhaps I was too cautious at giving too much water at this time of the year, you live and learn ;)

Nope, spot on. Unless it's indoors and growing vigorously.

But from the warmer spring days through to mid October'ish give it plenty.
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