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Here are Anemone appeninna from Montenegro and Anemone hortensis from Italy
Gerd
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Anrmone biflora from Iran and
Anermone blanda - light pink form found in S Turkey - 22 km before Gulnar, beautiful calkstone knolls between fields. Alt. 1000 m
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Some Anemone nemorosa cultivars. Names as obtained.
Anemone nemorosa 'Viridiflora'
Anemone nemorosa 'Green Fingers' which is variable and seems to have split into two forms
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Anemone nemorosa 'Kentish Pink' the colour gets deeper every day
Anemone nemorosa 'Royal Blue'
Anemone nemorosa 'Allenii'
Anemone nemorosa 'Allenii' with Anemone ranunculoides - a rabbit ate most of the ranunculoides but only one or two of the nemorosa
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Anemone nemorosa 'Vestal' and a semi-double which I bought from Paul Christian many years ago and have lost its name
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Roma, I like your Greenfingers forms. That cultivar is one I can't seem to get going here.
In between my 'Virescens' (which is the correct name?) and 'Bracteata plena' this one has appeared, which looks like a hybrid of the two, except 'Virescens' is sterile, is it not?
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Some exciting new A. ranunculoides variants, from a friend in Estonia.
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A few more:
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Some exciting new A. ranunculoides variants, from a friend in Estonia.
They look really interesting Anne, I like the Golden Dream.
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Anemone x lipsiensis
Apologies for the rather poor photo.
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Always been a favourite of mine, Gerry.
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Mine too Anne.
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Some exciting new A. ranunculoides variants, from a friend in Estonia.
Dagerort, Kadi and Papa are really exciting Anne!
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I have been watching with envy the photos of snowdrops forests. We don't have them here in Finland, but a pretty spring flower (though flowering later than snowdrops) which is abundant here is Anemone nemorosa. These pictures were taken last May near our house.
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Closer
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When I looked closer, I could find some flowers which had more petals, like in the first and second picture. In the third picture is a flower with rounder petals than the typical form, the last picture.
This year I will have to search more to see if I find more different types. :)
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I am very fond of these Anemone nemorosa, not least because they were one of my late Mother's favourite flowers - I think a drift of them , dancing gently in the breeze is one of the very best woodland sights.
We call them "windflowers" - it suits them.
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Beautiful pictures. I specially liked the `Virescens´-hybrid Anne showed. As I have quite a few cultivars of them, I begin to find interesting new forms as well in my garden. But first, I think we need to add some old goodies that are missing in the photos we have seen this far.
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First out is `Blue Eyes´of course
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I think `Pink Delight´ also deserves to be shown?
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and `Bowl of Spring´ absolutely one of my favorites
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Here is a slightly different `Green Fingers´ than shown before
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`Monstrosa´ with some red added to it. I also have a similar form with some blue instead of red.
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Beautiful `Vestal´ som green to make it more delicious.
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This one I found in my neighbor´s pasting for cows. It took some years before I came across a text speaking about a natural hybrid between A nemorosa x trifolia. It is very slowgrowing and I have only been able to divide it a few times.
I also have a `Blue Eyes´ with pink instead of blue, very beautiful, but I can not find a picture of it. Perhaps someone else have it and can post an image? I will meanwhile keep looking for the picture, it is somewhere among all the unnamed images
But this one is quite interesting. I found it in the province Bergslagen of Sweden, but I did not dare to take rhizom as I was not sure it was made by an insekt or a virus. ( If insect it would not look the same the next year of course, but if a virus it might have spred to my other Anemone nemorosa) Does someone know what it is caused by?
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To end my contribution I show another Anemone I like a lot, Anemone leveillei
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Bowl of Spring was new to me, very nice flower shape!
I have also A.trifolia, planted two years ago, and since I have many wild windflowers here and quite a few cultivars I will have to keep an eye if I get hybrids someday. :)
Some pictures
Anemone nemorosa 'Dee Day'
Anemone trifolia
Anemone ranunculoides 'Semiplena'
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I have blue Anemone nemorosa 'Dee Day', but now I have read in German Sarasto's pages
that 'Dee Day' should be white. :-\
http://shop.sarastro-stauden.com/de/products/getProduct/24/nemorosa_55 (http://shop.sarastro-stauden.com/de/products/getProduct/24/nemorosa_55)
I was wondering if anyone knows more about this and which 'Dee Day' is the right one, blue or white?
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As far as I know, it should be blue - the late Kath Dryden certainly thought so.
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.......... and Kath would have been correct
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Oddly ( to my mind) there is no mention in either the SRGC or AGS Journals about this plant. All the photos we've had here as well as nearly all the photos online are blue and descriptions of plants for sale are mostly blue - Though one can find find comments of old discussions of whether white or blue is correct , for instance in the blog of DonB in Iowa http://iowagarden.blogspot.co.uk/2009/04/yesnomaybe.html (http://iowagarden.blogspot.co.uk/2009/04/yesnomaybe.html) or in John Jearrard's pages http://www.johnjearrard.co.uk/plants/anemone/anemonenemorosadeeday/species.html (http://www.johnjearrard.co.uk/plants/anemone/anemonenemorosadeeday/species.html)
The plant should, I feel, be blue - but funny how there is a question over it and stranger still that there is so little information on the plant given it's provenance seems to be widely repeated. :-\
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I am stricken with the beauty of your anemonies, folks! What beauties!!!
Here is another, albeit more humble blue one - Anemone nemorosa 'Robinsoniana'
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The plant should, I feel, be blue - but funny how there is a question over it and srabger still that there is so little information on the plant given it's provenance seems to be widely repeated. :-\
Thank you Annew and David. I like my blue anemone very much and it seems vigorous.
Maggi that was just what I thought, I would have thought that somewhere was more information about plant this old.
Bolinopsis, very nice picture of a nice anemone. :) When the plant grows well it is always a beauty.
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I am stricken with the beauty of your anemonies, folks! What beauties!!!
Here is another, albeit more humble blue one - Anemone nemorosa 'Robinsoniana'
They are real gems are they not?
I have 'Robinsoniana' and also 'Leeds Variety' but I always get them mixed up.... :-\ :-[
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I know what you mean... :-[
I bought A. nemorosa 'Atrocaerulea', 'Blue Queen' and 'Royal Blue' from Christian Kress (Sarastro nursery) and cannot really tell them apart from 'Robinsoniana'. Probably my problem - I must check them all a little more diligently this spring....
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This reinforces (perhaps!) that Anemone nemorosa 'Dee Day' should be blue
http://www.avondalenursery.co.uk/plant.php?reference=1326197872002674 (http://www.avondalenursery.co.uk/plant.php?reference=1326197872002674)
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I bought A. nemorosa 'Atrocaerulea', 'Blue Queen' and 'Royal Blue' from Christian Kress (Sarastro nursery) and cannot really tell them apart from 'Robinsoniana'. Probably my problem - I must check them all a little more diligently this spring....
My 'Royal Blue' (from Ruksans) is a smaller plant, and has smaller flowers which are more blue than 'Robinsoniana' which has big very light blue flowers like in your picture.
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Thank you, Leena!
Checking my photos I think this might be 'Royal Blue'... Sadly, I wasn't very conscientious about labels in those days.
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I have 'Robinsoniana' and also 'Leeds Variety' but I always get them mixed up.... :-\ :-[
I've been thinking about this - Leeds Variety is white, is it not? So what is the other blue one I mix up with Robinsoniana? I don't recognise the names of the ones mentioned as types we have here :-\ :-[
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Is Anemone nemorosa 'Allenii' the one we mix up with 'Robinsoniana'?
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Yes! Roma, that's the one - This year I must make a real effort to sort out which is which - always supposing I had the correct plants in the first place, of course!
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You might find this site interesting:
www.sarastro-stauden.com (http://www.sarastro-stauden.com)
Enter Anemone nemorosa in the search window at the top right hand corner of "Pflanzenshop" (plant shop). Christian Kress lists almost eighty cultivars....
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.............. including A. n. 'Dee Day' in white!? ;D
Cracking selection of plants to browse through though.
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Yes! Roma, that's the one - This year I must make a real effort to sort out which is which - always supposing I had the correct plants in the first place, of course!
Maggi - when you do let me know!
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As soon as one is away from the forum for a few days there are suddenly so many new posts to read and beautiful pictures to admire (Althoguh I really try to limit myself to follow very few threads).
But, now I have a question regarding `Allenii`. I thought it is the very darkest blue of the ones I have got, and `Bowle´s Blue´is slightly lighter. `Royal Blue`is the smallest and most compact plant ( and I tend to say the most beautiful?). Although `Robinsonian´ is my favorite with the lightblue- almost blueberry and milk- sweeping petals. So, my question is, if you confuse `Allenii´ with `Robinsoniana´, I must be wrong saying it is my darkest one that is `Allenii´? I got it from a Swedish collector in 2008, but unfortunally he has been confused with other ones too.
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I discovered this in my garden a few years ago, and was surprised to find the label saying `Allenii´as I thought it was a darker one. I do not know from where I got this. It is interesting though, as it is very very dwarf in size. I am not sure you can see that in the picture. I didn´t see it last spring, but I did miss a lot in my garden as I was away so much. I will look for it this year and post a picture of it.
Does anyone have a picture of `Alleni´?
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I have anemones 'Allenii' and 'Robinsonia' growing side by side but I'm not sure if I can trust the labels . They are about the same size and light blue colour but the one labeled 'Allenii' has a faint red/pink tinge on the back of the petals and 'Robinsoniana' has a greyish backside.
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Royal Blue`is the smallest and most compact plant ( and I tend to say the most beautiful?).
I think so, too. :) My blue 'Dee Day' is also quite compact plant, and has about same size flowers as 'Royal Blue' (both are from Ruksans).
I don't have 'Allenii', so I can't say anything about it.
In Rareplants page it says that 'Robinsoniana' is larger plant than 'Allenii' (in 'Bowles Purple' page)
http://www.rareplants.co.uk/product.asp?s=cYqsz6482832&P_ID=158&strPageHistory=related (http://www.rareplants.co.uk/product.asp?s=cYqsz6482832&P_ID=158&strPageHistory=related)
and that they are identifiable from the backside of the petals.
I have an unknown large pale blue A.nemorosa and another slightly darker and little smaller (but now as small as RB) blueish plant, both nameless, but I suspect they must be the common ones, and at least one of them is 'Robinsoniana'. It is difficult to identify from just descriptions, I should buy plants with right names and then compare.
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Thank you for your answers. As you all say that `Allenii´ is very similar to ´Robinsoniana´ I am sure that you are right and my plant wrongly labelled.
Leena, I once bought a `Robinsoniana´at a specialist market ( it was in full bloom and impossible to resist). It was very clear it was a `Robinsoniana" but the seller had put the label "From an old priests cottage in Gotland" ( For you who does not know: Gotland is a very beautiful island outside of Sweden that "everybody" love and cherish a lot).
I think sometimes people try to make their plants a little more posh? Like when Aquilegia buergeriana is sold in normal plant shops as Aquilegia `Tequila Sunrise´.
Anyway, I will relabel my "Allenii" to "unknown". I am going to move most of the A nemorosa this spring to build a bulbscree in that place. The Anemones are to be moved to the new conifer corner and to-be-Rhododendron border. Why does one never stop moving the poor plants around? I spoke to a friend yesterday who said that sometimes one wish to say to the plants "you are perfect now, please do not grow any more". My problem is the other way around. I never get my plants the chance to establish as I keep moving them from one place to another.
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Your help will be appreciated:
It may seem crazy for me to try but, how do you germinate seed of Anemone blanda? For the first time ever I have been able to obtain seed of this plant (Chiltern Seeds) which is unobtainable (not grown?) here in South Africa. Would a period of cold stratification be required?
I have grown several Anemone species before, including the commercially available A. coronaria hybrids, so there might not be too many reasons ( :P) why A. blanda won't thrive here (zone 10) - are there?
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Anemone biflora, yellow flower form, from Janis :)
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Hello,
I'm a French gardener, anemones blanda are flowering here but nemorosa not yet. I found a blue blanda that reminds me of nemorosa "green finger" in my garden today... Do you have any idea about that one : semi-double or anything ? Is it a common plant ?
Thank you in advance for letting me know.
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Welcome François ! I have not seen such anemones in that colour - I suppose semi-double would be a good description. The blandas are not out here yet in N.E. Scotland .
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Thank you Maggi,
I've had the same answer from a French gardener. Let' see if other flowers show up in the next days.
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Two more photos as it opened more today, we had up to 19°C ... not really sure it is semi-double.
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First to flower here, Anemone apennina 'Albiflora'.
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Anemone blanda 'Akseki' is nicely flowering now!
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In my notebook, but with nothing to say where I copied it from:
Allenii - dusty lavender blue on top, rosy underneath
Robinsoniana - pale lavender on top, creamy fawn underneath
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In my notebook, but with nothing to say where I copied it from:
Allenii - dusty lavender blue on top, rosy underneath
Robinsoniana - pale lavender on top, creamy fawn underneath
Thank you Diane. :)
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Hi I have this little patch of Anemone Blanda, just starting to spread nicely.
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Anemone nemerosa 'Explosion' from Janis
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It's in his 2014 catalogue which he gave me today - 50 Euros.
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I grow may be more than 30 hybrids but this one is in my top 5, it's a treasure
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Mine is not up yet. :-\
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The pot is in the greenhouse, the other roots planted in garden are just showing buds.
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a couple of Anemone hortensis from Greece
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a couple of Anemone hortensis from Greece
Tony, Great plants!
The red one is so unusual for hortensis - did it occur within a population of ' normal ' ones
as an exception or might it be a hybrid perhaps?
Gerd
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Gerd
I have two plants from Mt Parnon both red but I collected them in 2006 and cannot remember any other details.I have not been back there since.
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Anemone pavonina ocellata ......a JCA collection (I lost the label and collection number unfortunately)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3775/13361081855_2c60049f79_o.jpg)
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Thank you Tony,
seems to be a reason for a new visit there (for me) - hoping to realise it
besides all the other plans!
Gerd
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Some Ranunculus asiaticus which seem to fit in anemones.
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What a color on the 2 first shots
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Having read some of the discussion about identifying blue anemones, I'm reluctant to suggest a name for this; anyone care to name it? 'Robinsoniana'?
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I would have said so, but then what do I know. ;D
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Having read some of the discussion about identifying blue anemones, I'm reluctant to suggest a name for this; anyone care to name it? 'Robinsoniana'?
This superficially looks like what I grow as 'Robinsoniana'.
From 'Rare Plants' (Paul Christian) website (perhaps not all that helpful if one has only one form):
"Anemone nemorosa Robinsoniana
This clone has large, pale Wisteria blue blooms backed with a very pale grey-purple exterior, which makes this clone instantly recognisable (it is sometimes confused with allenii).
Anemone nemorosa Allenii
This has flowers of a lovely deep blue with a subtle infusion of indigo on the face of the flowers.
The reverse, and buds, are zoned with violet infused with grey, a very characteristic colouration and once seen it is instantly identifiable. The flowers sit over noticeably deeper green foliage than many clones."
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Robinsoniana and Allenii, ( I think I have both, are both rather larger and taller than the other blues I grow, and also a paler lavender blue.
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My Anemone nemorosa 'Robinsoniana' are giving a fine show this year. The flowers are larger than some of my other cultivars.
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My A. n. Robinsoniana give a fantastic show in my crevice bed - yes my crevice bed. They come up through maybe 30cm of vertical sand stone. Why there? Because the soil under the stones is made up of recycled pot contents and I must have dumped them in and didn't notice the 'twigs'.
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and how they look this morning
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Another couple of Ranunculus asiaticus
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That's a lovely yellow
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Anemone nemorosa 'Lady Doneraile' with her wonderful big flowers.
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Lost label Anemone nemorosa cultivar planted years ago and clumping up nicely. Can anyone identify?
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Hello, can nobody help with my previous post???
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Possibly Anemone nemorosa 'Vestal'?
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Yes Vestal, aged plants have flower's center more concentrated than young ones.
this cultivar can be very variable.
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Thank you Guys!
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Anemone nemorosa 'Robinsoniana'
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I just noticed that in the middle of the big clump of Anemone nemorosa 'Vestal' is a solitary flower of A. nemorosa 'Virescens'. Easy to see which is the most vigorous.
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Ralph, you need to pull that one out - it is not Virescens, but one of your Vestals is affected by 'Big Leaf Disease' (thought to be caused by a mycoplasma). Try and take the affected bit of rhizome out with it and watch out for further outbreaks.
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Really! I did plant 'Virescens' thereabouts. But I will take your advice; better play it safe!
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Went for a long walk through the woods yesterday and in amongst the thousands and thousands of Anemone nemorosa there were a few clumps of this one. Sorry the pic is just out of focus, but I thought it was still interesting.
Is it common to get these colours in wild populations? I've never spotted them but also never looked out for them!
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Ah, the pic:
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This green Anemone is on facebook - any comments?
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203453003795098&set=gm.689258937798616&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203453003795098&set=gm.689258937798616&type=1&theater)
It appeared in someone's garden and is so far stable
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Subtle.
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This Anemone nemorosa appeared near my patch of 'Allenii' (or is it 'Robinsoniana? :-\). It is fairly small but I find it attractive.
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A seedling?
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A seedling?
Yes
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Anemone nemorosa 'Green Dream' and Milium effusum which had seeded in just the right place. :)
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A very pretty combination, Leena.
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Thank you Anne. :)
The weather is so hot now (27 C in shade) that everything is going past quickly (and something new opening their buds), the spring is over.
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Anemone heldreichii opened it's first flower for the year today; will it cross with A. coronaria in the same bed?
cheers
fermi
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That's beautiful Fermi!
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That's beautiful Fermi!
Chris, it certainly is and still flowering a month later!
Also in flower are A. coronaria (ex Iraq via Goteborg!) those this pic was taken 3 weeks ago;
and 3 different forms of Anemone pavonina
cheers
fermi
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Where the last two forms of Anemone pavonina are growing together in a raised bed this pink form has appeared from seed,
cheers
fermi
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RE ANEMONE NEMOROSA CULTIVARS.
The naming of Nemorosa cultivars is a problematic issue. Names get lost and replaced and there is no register. I have lost some of mine recently due to an outbreak of the fungus that attacks them but I have some views. These views are based on my own observations and some may have other views based on their observations:
A general observation is that they are sensitive to outside influence and may look different different years.
BLUES
’Robinsoniana’ They are larger by nearly 50% and paler than all other blues i have grown. That includes ’Allenii’ from Paul Christian. My oldest were planted by my grandfather more than seventy years ago so they can well be found on Gotland in an old garden.
’Royal Blue’ is bluer and slightly smaller than all other blues.
Blue is a mutation that occurs repeatedly in the wild. They get collected and named but most are very similar. The slight variations between them are not constant from year to year.
From my experience we have only three kinds of blue: ’Robinsoniana’, ’Royal Blue’ and the Blue complex (caerula, atrocaerula, blue queen, allenii and and and)
PINKS
I find the occasional pink in the forest and i buy pinks and am given pinks by friends. None of the pinks remains pink after transplanting into what should be congenial soil in my garden. Thus far I conclude that pinkiness is a sign of stress or other outside influences.
GREENS
Green fingers varies from year to year and from position to position.
’Monstrosa’ and ’Bracteata Plena’ are indistinguishable since both vary more from year to year than between themselves. I even had a monstrosa produce a rhizome instead of a flower.
Blue eyes never produces any blue in my place but only looks as another permutation of monstrosa.
Virescens is stable and clearly distinct from the others
I conclude that Monstrosa. Bracteata plena and blue eyes are the same unstable sport – maybe even infected by some virus or mycoplasma. ’Green fingers’ is distinct but not stable ’Virescens’ is stable and distinct.
DOUBLES
My grandfather also had a white with a central white ”ball”. It is very stable and I have identified it as ’vestal’.
According to PC ’plena’ has a less ”solid” ball in the middle but I have never seen it.
’Hilda’ seems to have unusually many petals which are slightly rectangular in shape
WHITES
There is some variation in the wild population but few cultivars are named. Van Tubergen once sold what they called ’Danish Variety’ but admitted to me that they were dug indiscriminately from wild Danish populations. ’Leeds Variety’ did not like me but was all white and consistently larger - nearly as large as Robinsoniana’ I have once found a very similar wild but unfortunately could not rescue it – It was later covered with tarmac.
EARLY-LATE
The time of flowering varies between clones but seemingly not enough to warrant naming. I once had a clone that flowered in the fall. It was very weak because it tried to grow in mid winter which is not a good idea in my climate so after a couple of years I lost it. It might have survived in the UK.
Happy New Year
Göte
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I agree with most of what you say gote with the exception of Blue Eyes. I find Blue Eyes stable, it starts out as a white double and after a couple of days the blue centre develops. Also I find that the pink Tomas says the same every year, white with a pink reverse.
Susan
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An autumnal flowering form of A. coronaria from Cyprus, as flower mature, pinkish color appears around the center.
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Hej Göte,
Interesting what you write about Anemone nemorosa cv.
Anemone is one of my favorite genera. I have collected some but have not been so keen on separating named sorts when they are planted out. I have acquired them to increase the genetic diversity of my plants.
Regarding pink ones I agree it is a stress symptom but also of aging. And it is big differences also among wild clones.
Here are a few pictures from wild populations: (There are some really big ones at this site!)
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Very interesting Gote and others. I have started to collect Anemone nemorosa cultivars in past few years since they seem to like it in my garden and climate, and blue ones add nice color to the garden in May. I don't have very many yet flowering size, but I'm expecting many more flowering for the first time next spring, and it will be interesting to see if there are any differences in them. If not, I don't mind because they are all so nice anyway, and so far I don't yet have enough of them. :)
Last May I took a picture of my blue ones to compare them, I tried to take a medium size flower from each (not the largest or the smallest). All the blue ones seem to be very similar, and if I didn't know where I had planted each one, I don't know if I could tell them apart. Except the large pale blue one which I got from a friend and the name of this anemone is not sure, but can it be Robinsoniana?
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Here are first 'Dee Day', then 'Royal Blue', and both in the same picture. Then my supposed 'Robinsoniana'.
Then later in the end of flowering Mart's Blue' in the right and 'Blue Queen' behind it, all look very much the same, but very nice. :)
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Here is first 'Monstrosa', then two pictures of 'Green Dream', I think this has been stable with me and has had the same kind of flowers every year, I like this one very much.
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'Vestal' is also one of my favourites and I've had it for many years.
'Pink Delight' has flowered now twice and has looks distinct to me (but I should move it to somewhere else, maybe a little more moist place so it would increase better)
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Finally Anemone x lipsiensis and Anemone trifolia which grow together, I should separate them.
Anemone trifolia continues to flower the latest here and it also keeps its foliage later than any other anemone, until end of summer.
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Susan,
As I tried to express, this is the experience in my garden. My pinks always become white at least year two. Blue eyes never showed any blue at all - but had the expected shape.
Hoy,
Of course you are right. I should have mentioned ageing.
Leena
To me iot looks like 'Robinsoniana' both colour and size.
Cheers
Göte
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Leena, your Anemones look great!
If it is the Robinsoniana-look-alike you got from me it is a seedling because the original patch of what might be Robinsoniana is another place.
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Leena
To me iot looks like 'Robinsoniana' both colour and size.
Thank you for confirming this Gote. :) I got this plant from Erjal, who had bought it from botanical garden in Finland with a name 'Robinsoniana', but it differs from other plants sold here in Finland as 'Robinsoniana' which are smaller and darker blue (but not so dark as 'Royal Blue' and such). I'm beginning to think the wrong 'Robinsoniana' in Finland is perhaps 'Allenii'. Last autumn I bought both 'Robinsoniana' and 'Allenii' from Ruksans to compare with my nameless ones.
Thanks Hoy. :) Your anemone didn't flower yet last summer but I'm hoping to see it next spring. Also 'Bowles Purple', and 'Lismore Blue' should flower next spring, as I'm hoping also 'Kentish Pink', 'Blue Eyes' and 'Maret'.
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Leena and Gote - it's really interesting to see and read about your experiences with Anemone nemorosa in Scandinavia. I've always found the naming of these confusing but one of the best articles on them was written by Ulrich Toubøl in The Plantsman (Vol. 3) way back in the 1980's. ('Hilda' was named for his wife). We were given a form from local woods which quite quickly turns to a deep purple-pink as it ages (we have named this 'Westwell Pink' - presumably synonymous with what is called 'Kentish Pink') and I know there is a similar form called 'Swedish Pink'. I've tried to pull together some of my knowledge of them for an article in the AGS Journal and they look very fine in Leena's photographs - they are such good garden plants. In Britain at least, where we have little if any natural untouched woodland they are very rich in long managed 'ancient' woodland such as the Blean near to us at Canterbury. There is hardly any variation and they mostly spread vegetatively. There seems more variety on the other side of the North Sea.
It's also interesting to see A. trifolia - I've never grown this but would like to try other species. Robin White has mentioned to me a pink form of this species, have you come across this? I must have a good look back through this Anemone thread.
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Jut had a good look back through this thread and it looks as though A. nemorosa might get more coverage next spring :) - some very interesting forms and not a great deal less confusion about names than before (for me :-\). They are glorious in woodland as in Leena's photographs. This is in the Blean last spring and a curious variant which may or may not be stable?
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Hi Tim,
the curious variant you show looks good. Hope it is stable!
By the way, does anybody have Anemone quinquefolia for swapping?
Here is the "big brother" of the wood anemones, Anemone pratti.. It's like an Anemone nemorosa on steroids!
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Leena and Gote - it's really interesting to see and read about your experiences with Anemone nemorosa in Scandinavia.
It's also interesting to see A. trifolia - I've never grown this but would like to try other species. Robin White has mentioned to me a pink form of this species, have you come across this?
Thank you Tim. :)
I haven't heard of a pink form of A.trifolia, and my white one doesn't turn pink when it ages (but I don't know if it would in other kind of climate).
The wild A.nemorosa turns pinkish when it ages, and it will be interesting to see if my 'Kentish Pink' flowers next May and if it is a different kind of pink from the wild ones, it should be as I understand.
You have found a nice different looking pink variant.
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Leena - the first photo shows 'Westwell Pink' when it first comes out, not really any different to any other woodland anemone (here it is growing with one of Elizabeth Strangman's wonderful 'Queen of the Night' hellebores from Washfield Nursery). The second shows it as it matures growing in a friend's garden as it turns to a strong pinkish-purple. The strength of colour varies from year to year and garden to garden but is always much more striking than most other pinks I have seen. The individual flowers though are not especially well shaped or symmetrical - the good thing is that it is very vigorous. The change in colour must be similar to the way Trillium grandiflorum can develop such a strong pink as it matures; nothing like the purity of the true pink selections of the trillium. There don't seem to be forms of the woodland anemone that are truly a good pink as they first open in the way that the blues are. (We will have to explore our local woods more closely next spring)
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Thank you for the picture of your 'Westwell Pink'. Also here the wild ones start white and then by the end of the flowering turn pink, but perhaps not as pink as your plant, it is very showy growing so large clump. :)
Last spring was not so good for wild A.nemorosa here as the previous one, but I hope the next spring they will flower again a lot, it is so nice to go "hunting" for different forms.
Your dark hellebore is a beauty!
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We found a pale blue variant of Anemone trifolia in Italy. I must have a photo somewhere..
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Would be nice to see that Anne, and also more about some of the less well known or grown species - A. prattii does look very striking in Trond's picture. So many forms of A. nemorosa have been selected over the years but there must be a good number of other species that would be interesting to compare with this such as the widespread A. quinquefolia and several western US species (Panayoti Kelaidis refers briefly to these in an article in 'Rock Garden Plants of Noorth America' - an anthology from the NARGS Bulletin), and a whle host of species from Asia into China and Japan.
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Yes, I hope you'll find the picture Anne!
I agree with you Tim, it should be a lot of other anemone species and cultivars out there. A pratti is an interesting species. The flower is more like the flowers of the big, many-flowered cousins like A japonica but the leaves are like a nemorosa on steroids.
This one has 4 in stead of 5 petals:
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I hope somebody has picture of the North American species to show!
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I hope somebody has picture of the North American species to show!
That would be nice - here are some from McMark :
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4790.msg149945#msg149945 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=4790.msg149945#msg149945)
I note that the links for photos of Anemone quinquefolia given previously in the NARGS forum are amongst those "lost"
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Very nice Maggi - thanks. Interesting to see a dark leaved variant like some of the nemorosa forms and the association with other plants such as Panax (some botanists put the Araliaceae and Apiaceae together in one family - they are very close but different enough to make it much more convenient to view them separately). Wouldn't it be lovely to establish Linnaea borealis in the garden? Probably not for us in the dry south-east! A little more research in order :)
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Wouldn't it be lovely to establish Linnaea borealis in the garden? Probably not for us in the dry south-east! A little more research in order :)
I think quite a lot of us would be ecstatic to be able to have the exquisite Linnaea borealis in our gardens. The only people I know with that pleasure are those with gardens very close to, and so benefitting from, its natural habitat and I think that isthe secret.
I would love to be proved wrong by tales of others growing it well in cultivation.
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Mature flowers of Anemone nemorosa 'Kentish Pink' in April last year
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Anemone biflora, yellow :)
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:o Super Tatsuo ! Do you grow also the red one ?
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Anemone biflora, JJA 160.303 :)
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Amazing ! ;)
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Emma T. found this Anemone nemoroasa in a country churchyard - I've never seen one quite like this - has anyone any comments ?
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Thanks Maggi.
The church yard is full of anemone blanda (just blue or white forms) and then there's this little one !
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Is it a blanda then, Emma?
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I think it must be
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I wonder what it will be like when fully open, and if it will do the same thing next year?
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I have some anemones coming into flower now. Typical nemorosa flower but deep red with a hint of purple, dark reddish leaves, and a nemorosa type rhizome. This is a rescued plant from another garden. Can someone suggest a name.
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I hope its at your house now?!
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A. apennina
double form in various colours
double blue
double pale blue
double pale pink
double two tone
double white
I've been told these aren't doubles :'( :'(
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Very pretty.
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stupidly I have them all in one pot ::)
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Very pretty.
They are but they're small because I have way too many in one pot. How did the one do that you took home?
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I have many great anemones in the garden but the one that pleases me most is the real Anemone nemorosa that grows wild with us. It is a real sign of spring?!
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Marit 8)
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I think it may be, Marit! It was my late Mother's favourite wildflower so it is always special to me and speaks of spring.
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Hi Maggi :)
My mom feels the same way, so it's probably heritable ;D
Marit
I think it may be, Marit! It was my late Mother's favourite wildflower so it is always special to me and speaks of spring.
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Hi Maggi :)
My mom feels the same way, so it's probably heritable ;D
Marit
8) :)
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Now that I have more growth on these, and more flowers opening. I have had a closer look at one of the roots. Seems the deep pink flowers may all be on slender corms, (blanda?) and the rhizomes, or some of them, are ranunculoides. Hope there are only the 2 present, or it will be a bit of a pain to try and separate these. I noticed this deep pink form elsewhere in my garden now where I have planted other things. I actually removed the whole rock garden in this rescue so have the rocks (water worn limestone), plants and most of the soil, which is very gritty and better drained than my soil in general.
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Anemone nemorosa 'Robinsoniana' now in flower.
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I cant remember how many flowers this plant had last year but there are 15 this year. I only got it in 2013 when it was dormant
Anemone lipsiensis bracteata 'Stiby'
Anemone nemerosa 'Maret'
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Do you have a photo, Brian?
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Here Anemones are at their best now
1. Anemone appeninna 'Petrovac'
2. Anemone heldreichii - outside since 2 years
3. + 4. Anemone pavonina - from Macedonia (Repulic) and seems to be hardy outside
5. Anemone nemorosa - probably 'Hilda'
Gerd
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and
Anemone ranunculoides
Gerd
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I will try and get something before they go over. I suspect most of it will be ranunculoides now it is more advanced.
Are crosses between these 2 possible?
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A. ranunculoides does cross with A. nemerosa
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Very pretty, Gerd.
Here are flowering some of Taavi Tuulik's Anemone ranunculoides finds from Estonia:
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Some more:
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A nice A. nemorosa, Jummer's Fienrood, and my best effort yet at a double blue - semi-double at least.
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Anemone blue eye, love this one.
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Thank you, Anne!
Yours are very nice too - especially the semi-double blue one.
Gerd
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Anne - some great plants there! That pink form of Anemone nemorosa, 'Jummer's Fienrood', is about the best I have ever seen - do you have any more information about it?
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Hi Tim,
I can't find anything on Google - I'll ask Taavi about it. The buds are good too.
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Just found this: Jümmers Fienrood» (fienrood = always pink in Low German) from the Schuelper Moor in Schleswig-Holstein
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Thanks Anne :). A plant to look out for!
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Ever disappointed in a plants description?
Anemone nemerosa 'Pink Delight'
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Alan Elliott tweeted : "Horty-types get your pens ready to re-label. Transfer of Chinese Pulsatilla to Anemone
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1111/njb.00700/ (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1111/njb.00700/)
via Nordic Journal of Botany "
Research Article
Nomenclatural transfer of Chinese Pulsatilla to Anemone (Ranunculaceae)
Authors
Nan Jiang , Zhuang Zhou, Kai-Yun Guan andWen-Bin Yu
First published: 13 April 2015
Abstract
Pulsatilla has been separated from Anemone by many authors. However, molecular phylogenies show that this genus, along with Barneoudia, Knowltonia, Hepatica and Oreithales, is nested with Anemone. For this reason, Pulsatilla is better treated as a section of Anemone. For the Chinese Pulsatilla species, nine species names are already available in Anemone, and the remaining names of three species and four infraspecific taxa are transferred to Anemone here.
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Ever disappointed in a plants description?
Anemone nemerosa 'Pink Delight'
Nice plant, poor description! What is the nicest pink currently available?
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Alan/Maggi - I don't see Pulsatilla easily being subsumed into Anemone either by horty-types or many botanists! And certainly not Hepatica either!!) But there is already a divergence of opinion about Pulsatilla/Anemone occidentalis & patens in N. America, and Chris Grey-Wilson discusses this carefully in his book, concluding that: 'To include Pulsatilla within Anemone as a subgenus would achieve very little and would only serve to make a large and already cumbersome and complicated genus even more burdensome'. They are obviously very close but it seems more logical to simply 'bar-code' plants for the purposes of science, and maintain useful names for the purposes of visual communication about them. Are horticulture and botany becoming so distant from one another that neither the twain shall meet?
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A. x lipsiensis
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A. x lipsiensis
I'm fond of this- it grows well in our garden - I find the soft yellow colour very pretty and the flower to foliage ratio is pretty good.
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Nice plant, poor description! What is the nicest pink currently available?
No-one got a view?
Here's a pink, very pink, Anemone nemorosa from today's visit to Knightshayes. Stonkingly beautiful.
More pics from Knighshayes on Places to Visit thread later this evening
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Anne,
you forgot these two of Taavi's Anemone's ;) We can always arrange a swap ;)
Anemone ranunculoides 'Golden Dream'
and Anemone ranunculoides 'Papa'
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Anemone nemorosa 'Kentish Pink' for David
Anemone nemorosa 'Royal Blue'
Anemone nemorosa 'Green Fingers' x 2 this seems to have split into two distinct forms. One has lots of flowers and sparse foliage and the other lush foliage with few flowers. I suspect it is the disease discussed in another thread but have not got round to removing it. It is growing among azalea roots so will be difficult to dig out.
Can anyone name this double anemone. I got it from Paul Christian many years ago but have lost the name.
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Beautiful photos Roma. Love the Anemone nemorosa 'Green Fingers'. :o
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How lovely flowering anemones everyone :). Here they are now coming up from the ground.
I have also one Taavis A.ranunculoides ('Dago') which is showing now one bud for the first time :). Most of all I like all the blue varietys of A.nemorosa.
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Roma - I wonder if the double white might be 'Hilda'. I haven't grown enough to compare but this is described as a neat and striking form which yours looks too. 'Green Fingers' grows a great deal better for you than it does in our garden, but it doesn't have the 'big leaf' symptoms - interesting to see it really prospering. (I can see that the woodland garden is going to come more and more into its own in the next few years with all these forms of A. nemorosa and ranunculoides, and Eranthis!).
This is an Anemone we saw at Nymans, growing in grass, last year, and there are more colourful forms with similar dark leaves. Great scope for this species to develop more in gardens!
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Anemone nemorosa 'Kentish Pink' for David
Many thanks for that Roma. It may be the pink plant I saw at Knightshayes was in stronger light but it was, to my eye, a much deeper pink than 'Kentish Pink'.
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David - the colour of these purplish-pink forms tends to develop strongly as the flowers mature (they usually open white with purplish flush on the reverse) - and isn't always fully consistent from year to year (so environment must have an impact). I have a picture of 'Westwell Pink' ('Kentish Pink' I presume, unless others have been found and distributed from Kent) in a friend's garden which is even deeper coloured than your picture at Knightshayes, and there are other forms as good as this so names can become a bit redundant at times. That true pink form that Anne shows is the best pink I have seen, comparable with all those good blues that you find in the species. (There should be records at Knightshayes of what their plants are, from their trials of Anemone nemorosa? But maybe this is a seedling?).
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Can anyone name this double anemone. I got it from Paul Christian many years ago but have lost the name.
I agree with Tim that it might be 'Hilda'.
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I agree with Tim that it might be 'Hilda'.
Thanks Tim and Gunilla. I must write it down before I forget.
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This is an Anemone we saw at Nymans, growing in grass, last year, and there are more colourful forms with similar dark leaves. Great scope for this species to develop more in gardens!
An attractive form, Tim - as well as being dark, is there also a sheen to the foliage? Appears to be so from the photo...... :-\
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Robin White has sent me 'Evelyn Meadows' which also has this dark foliage, and has been using this in controlled crosses, so good prospect of more of these appearing in the next few years! Yes, the leaves do have a sheen to them and maybe it is an adaptation to higher light intensities - several of these types have come from the Picos. They were growing in open grass at Nymans, not woodland.
This is a picture of a stock bed on the nursery with A. nemorosa 'Bowles Purple' and 'Westwell Pink' just colouring on the left. (Corydalis flexuosa 'Purple leaf' in the foreground). The two pictures from Lords (a garden near to us which opened for the NGS last weekend) show a marvellous naturalised area of woodland anemone and primrose under large tall trees. I would love to emulate this on a smaller scale and we have primroses self-seeding by the hundreds in the garden - the anemone would take a lot longer to establish, but we have some sizeable drifts that we could divide up to set things on the way.
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I have to show these couple of photos from Lords - not a plantsman's garden but owned by an architect with, as you would expect, a fine sense of space and proportion. The first must be one of the most impressive Tulip trees in the country, and the second two - the front door and resident woodpecker!
Final picture in our garden - A. nemorosa 'Virescens' with that loveliest of Tiarella, wherryi
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I have found a nice spot for anemone blanda, it gets sun in the late afternoon and evening. It must like it there as it's bulking up nicely.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7723/17167471732_1640a25598.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/sa2MeW)image (https://flic.kr/p/sa2MeW) by johnstephen29 (https://www.flickr.com/people/126223196@N05/), on Flickr
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Anemone nemorosa 'Kentish Pink' for David
Many thanks for that Roma.
Oh, sorry I've already said thanks to Roma once, but never mind ;D
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David - the colour of these purplish-pink forms tends to develop strongly as the flowers mature (they usually open white with purplish flush on the reverse) - and isn't always fully consistent from year to year (so environment must have an impact). I have a picture of 'Westwell Pink' ('Kentish Pink' I presume, unless others have been found and distributed from Kent) in a friend's garden which is even deeper coloured than your picture at Knightshayes, and there are other forms as good as this so names can become a bit redundant at times. That true pink form that Anne shows is the best pink I have seen, comparable with all those good blues that you find in the species. (There should be records at Knightshayes of what their plants are, from their trials of Anemone nemorosa? But maybe this is a seedling?).
Tim, thanks for that. Could I clarify please are you saying that 'Kentish Pink' is sometimes sold as 'Westwell Pink' and vice versa?
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We were given this deep pink Anemone nemorosa quite a few years ago by a customer. She found it in Westwell Woods near to Ashford so we named it 'Westwell Pink' and distributed it as that. So as far as know the name 'Kentish Pink' has been used as a synonym as this got out into wider circulation. Bob Brown at Cotswald Garden Flowers had quite a few plants from us and sold them as 'Westwell Pink' so I think it must have had a pretty wide distribution by now! The name should be 'Westwell Pink'.
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Ever disappointed in a plants description?
Anemone nemerosa 'Pink Delight'
Actually, if that is really pink, I'd be delighted if I'd bred it - I don't know of any other pink double.
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We were given this deep pink Anemone nemorosa quite a few years ago by a customer. She found it in Westwell Woods near to Ashford so we named it 'Westwell Pink' and distributed it as that. So as far as know the name 'Kentish Pink' has been used as a synonym as this got out into wider circulation. Bob Brown at Cotswald Garden Flowers had quite a few plants from us and sold them as 'Westwell Pink' so I think it must have had a pretty wide distribution by now! The name should be 'Westwell Pink'.
Many thanks for that Tim. If you are selling it and you will be at Exeter next Spring I'll have three please and I know a couple of blokes who would take at least a couple each.
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More info from Taavi on 'Jümmers Fienrood':
information from Ingo Kaczmarek (Germany, Hamburg):
Anemone nem. 'Jümmers Fienrood' ( formerly named Schülper Moor).
So far as I know it is the best pink form from buds, opening and lasting
and
AND one further central importance is to keep rare plants spread around
as this is the case for 'Jümmers Fienrood'. This one was found by my
friend (who died 2 yearse ago) at Schleswig-Holstein. He kept it for
himself and gave my one rhizome. So I put a name on to it in the
regional spoken language 'lower german' Jümmers Fienrood means 'always
rosa/pink'. I am respecting wishes from friends/ or persons who gave me
nice plants if they do not want me to distribute them around as to
naming as well.
Please check the spelling - 'Jümmers Fienrood'! (jümmers (regional
germ.) = immer (germ.) = always, forever).
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A few more of Taavi's yellows:
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A few more, I won't try your patience with even more!
After the yellows, A. nemorosa 'Evelyn Meadows', and A. nemorosa 'Robinsoniana with Muscari.
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I don´t remember if I have shown this hybrid, natural hybrid, before? ( talking about Anemone x lipsiensis = Anemone ranunculoides x nemorosa)
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A nemorosa x trifolia
It is quite rare but does occur in Sweden. I was lucky finding a big individual in my friend´s cow pasture and could take a small piece of the rhizome. It is slow growing, opposite to the parents, so I can only divide it every two years or so to pass it on.
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Very interesting, I also grow A.trifolia and A.nemorosa grows wild around our garden. How can you tell which are hybrids?
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I like that 'Evelyn Meadows', Anne. Is it widely available?
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Not sure, Roma - I listed it once, but it is very slow with me.
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We've got two threads Maggi, this one and http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12869.0;topicseen (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12869.0;topicseen)
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We've got two threads Maggi, this one and http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12869.0;topicseen (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12869.0;topicseen)
So we do - thanks David, fxed now.
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I don´t remember if I have shown this hybrid, natural hybrid, before? ( talking about Anemone x lipsiensis = Anemone ranunculoides x nemorosa)
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A nemorosa x trifolia
It is quite rare but does occur in Sweden. I was lucky finding a big individual in my friend´s cow pasture and could take a small piece of the rhizome. It is slow growing, opposite to the parents, so I can only divide it every two years or so to pass it on.
That is very interesting because yesterday I pollinated A trifolia with a blue A. nemorosa. Nice to know it might be a fertile cross.
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Do you have a photo, Brian?
Photo at last, taken the other day.
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Now more are flowering I can see most are A. ranunculoides, and just a few are what I assume is A. blanda. Did not notice the difference in roots when transferring. A few pots of A. ranunculoides semi-plena behind for comparison.
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Anemone ranunculoides 'Golden Dream' showing the third layer of the flower today.
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Beautiful, Wim.
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Wim, that is really beautiful! :)
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Thanks Cliff and Leena...it seems they grow quite well too, only the second year in my garden and it has doubled in size already!
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Photo at last, taken the other day.
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Now more are flowering I can see most are A. ranunculoides, and just a few are what I assume is A. blanda. Did not notice the difference in roots when transferring. A few pots of A. ranunculoides semi-plena behind for comparison.
I think you are correct, Brian.
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Golden Dream is beautiful, and it's a nice photo too, Wim.
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First time i encountered Anemone rhodopaea, [syn. Pulsatilla halleri ssp rhodopaea] from Mt. Falakro
It is a striking large Anemone which is so fluffy that it seems it will start walking in a minute...
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Some more
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Did everyone in UK and Ireland see A. n. 'Frenzy' on Gardeners World last night
https://patientgardener.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/wordless-wednesday-29415-anemone-nemorosa-frenxy/ (https://patientgardener.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/wordless-wednesday-29415-anemone-nemorosa-frenxy/)
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Mark - Very Nice!
Oron - it would make a good pet!
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Yes mark I did, beautiful plant, so is yours oron.
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Another stray anemone in a large pan of what I think is A. x lipsiensis. The latter has almost finished flowering but this rather monstrous thing is over 40mm diameter. Same leaf appearance and size as the rest of the pan. It has quite a strong yellow centre grading to white at the edges.
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Perhaps it has hybridized with something like Anemone sylvestris? ???
cheers
fermi
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Just bought a plant of Anemone obtusifolia today and would welcome cultivation advice please.
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Grew this from SRGC seed sown Jan 2014. It was labelled Anemone multifida ssp tetonensis. Is it at least A. multifida?
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I'm no expert Chris but this is what I've gleaned and I'm sure there are those on the Forum who could be much more helpful.
According to the Plant List Anemone multifida var tetonensis is synonomous with A. tetonensis. and I've read somewhere that it has bluish/white flowers. If the link below works there is a picture supposed to be it but if those flowers are bluish/white I'm the King of Spain!
http://160.111.248.28/content/2011/10/06/02/85973_580_360.jpg (http://160.111.248.28/content/2011/10/06/02/85973_580_360.jpg)
A. magellanica is synonomous with A. multifida.
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Just bought a plant of Anemone obtusifolia today and would welcome cultivation advice please.
Come on, somebody must be growing it?
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I have had that one a number of times David, but killed them all. The plant I've got is a creamy white a bit like Pulsatilla albana.
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Here are the descriptions for Anemone multifida and for var. tetonensis:
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=233500065 (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=233500065)
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=233500069 (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=1&taxon_id=233500069)
Var. tetonensis: "Flowers: sepals 5-7(-9), usually blue or purple, sometimes white, or abaxially yellow and red, blue, or tinged purple, and adaxially yellow, red, blue, or tinged purple, oblong to elliptic or ovate, 5-15 mm."
And some photos:
http://fieldguide.mt.gov/speciesDetail.aspx?elcode=PDRAN040R0 (http://fieldguide.mt.gov/speciesDetail.aspx?elcode=PDRAN040R0)
http://swbiodiversity.unm.edu/taxa/index.php?taxon=72079 (http://swbiodiversity.unm.edu/taxa/index.php?taxon=72079)
I dunno. Personally, I suspect the plant in question is a Eurasian Pulsatilla.... ? I may be wrong (often am!) but it just doesn't look like Anemone multifida, which is a common plant here (though the var. tetonensis doesn't occur here of course). It will be easy to verify if it's an Anemone at least when seed heads form.
Here are herbarium specimen sheets.
http://www.rmh.uwyo.edu/data/results.php?Genus=Anemone&Species=multifida&Subtaxon=tetonensis&Sort1=SASName1&Limit=100 (http://www.rmh.uwyo.edu/data/results.php?Genus=Anemone&Species=multifida&Subtaxon=tetonensis&Sort1=SASName1&Limit=100)
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Thanks Lori, helps a little. Thought it looked more pulsatilla-like than anemone.... Still a sweet little thing anyway....
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Just bought a plant of Anemone obtusifolia today and would welcome cultivation advice please.
David, I've had two for several years, one blue and one white next to each other. The blue disappeared suddenly but the white one is still there. Planted in ordinary soil but sand and pebbles are mixed in. Morning and day sun.
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Many thanks for that Trond, just what I needed. If not for that it would have finished up in a North facing bed and probably have died on me.
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Not sure if this is any further help Chris? What I have as Anemone multifida (magellanica) is from seed that came from the Exchange as Pulsatilla occidentalis but wasn't. Tim Ingram felt that it was A. multifida and Lesley agreed, see below
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12125.msg310040#msg310040 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12125.msg310040#msg310040)
Although the following picture is not good, much too windy outside today, I'll post it anyway. The lower part of the outside of the petals show as a dark red/brown, is yours the same?
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Hi David,
Got a few more pics today when it opened more. It's got quite a few flowers considering it's only a year old really. the flowers are completely erect unlike most pulsatillas. No dark markings at base of flowers.
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Here are some Anemone multifida (syn magellanica) from Argentina. They come in several forms.
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Many thanks for that Trond, just what I needed. If not for that it would have finished up in a North facing bed and probably have died on me.
Well, my blue one died ;) Can't remember for sure but it probably happened during the winter.
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Not sure if this is any further help Chris? What I have as Anemone multifida (magellanica) is from seed that came from the Exchange as Pulsatilla occidentalis but wasn't. Tim Ingram felt that it was A. multifida and Lesley agreed, see below
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12125.msg310040#msg310040 (http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=12125.msg310040#msg310040)
Although the following picture is not good, much too windy outside today, I'll post it anyway. The lower part of the outside of the petals show as a dark red/brown, is yours the same?
I'd just like to go back on this one. I have just been to check another clone of Anemone multifida (magellanica) I have and this shows no trace of the reddish brown marking on the lower part of the outside of the petals I spoke of on the type I have I that I grew from seed which came as Pulsatilla occidentalis.
Although I'm not much good when it comes to reading botanical descriptions I can't see any mention of descriptions of A. multifida where this brown marking is referred to and I'm really intrigued now. Does anyone know please if such marking is present in P. occidentalis which, I understand is often referred to as A. occidentalis in America.
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Chris I have almost exactly the same issue as you and probably the same plant. These were from the AGS exchange 13/14 sown in Jan 2014 as Anemone rupicola and they certainly arent that.
I agree though they are bonny wee things.
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Hi Alan,
Mine was SRGC seed same year though. Here's a close up of the foliage and seed head. Definitely an anemone, not pulsatilla....
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Hi Alan,
Mine was SRGC seed same year though. Here's a close up of the foliage and seed head. Definitely an anemone, not pulsatilla....
Rogues!! I have a Anemone drummondii from the AGS exchange from that year too but I think its about to be the same again.
I had a rake through the herbarium at work (ah procrastinaion) on Friday looking at specimens of the suggested names from the forum. I do think A. multifida is a safe bet especially now you posted the seed head.
And as for your last comment, it's true for all Pulsatillas.....
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Alan, if you get time would you mind taking a look at Replies 216 and 220 in this thread with reference to my Anemone multifida that started life in an Exchange seed envelope labeled Pulsatilla occidental is. I would be interested to know if any of the herbarium specimens you have seen show the reddish/brown markings I have mentioned on the lower outer petals.
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Whatever it is, I really like it and it's destined for a place in my garden!
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Alan, if you get time would you mind taking a look at Replies 216 and 220 in this thread with reference to my Anemone multifida that started life in an Exchange seed envelope labeled Pulsatilla occidental is. I would be interested to know if any of the herbarium specimens you have seen show the reddish/brown markings I have mentioned on the lower outer petals.
So most of our Anemone multifida specimens are 19th C or early 20th C so colour doesnt persist too well, but in saying that there is often but not always the dark marking on the base.
A few specimens also hint at a blueness or pinkness in flower colours, but that could relate to how they dried.
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And two Franklin expedition plants just because.
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And two Franklin expedition plants just because...... (http://And two Franklin expedition plants just because......)
Lord Franklin? He of the disappearance in the search for the North West Passage?
(bursts into song.....
"it was homeward bound one night on the deep, swinging in my hammock I fell asleep....." )
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Alan, very many thanks for taking the time.
Given that information I have re-visited the information that Lori included in her reply 212 in respect of Anemone multifida var tetonensis (Porter) C L Hitch which The Plant List now shows in accepted form as Anemone tetonensis Porter ex Britton. The description I picked up from Lori's post seems very apt ""sepals.....usually blue or purple, sometimes white, or abascially yellow and red, blue or tinged purple, and axially yellow, red, blue or tinged purple"".
After all that I shall go for a long lay-down preceded by a generous amount of good malt. I'm not going to change my labels though
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And two Franklin expedition plants just because...... (http://And two Franklin expedition plants just because......)
Lord Franklin? He of the disappearance in the search for the North West Passage?
(bursts into song.....
"it was homeward bound one night on the deep, swinging in my hammock I fell asleep....." )
Aye these will be from the second expedition after the canabalism and boot eating but before the catastrophic all hands lost one.
These specimens will be from either John Richardson or Thomas Drummond.
As songs go I prefer Northwest passage "ah for just one time i would take the northwest passage to find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort sea."
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Alan, very many thanks for taking the time.
Given that information I have re-visited the information that Lori included in her reply 212 in respect of Anemone multifida var tetonensis (Porter) C L Hitch which The Plant List now shows in accepted form as Anemone tetonensis Porter ex Britton. The description I picked up from Lori's post seems very apt ""sepals.....usually blue or purple, sometimes white, or abascially yellow and red, blue or tinged purple, and axially yellow, red, blue or tinged purple"".
After all that I shall go for a long lay-down preceded by a generous amount of good malt. I'm not going to change my labels though
I often feel like a large single malt afrer being in the herbarium but usually settle for coffee or irn bru....
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Aye these will be from the second expedition after the canabalism and boot eating but before the catastrophic all hands lost one.
These specimens will be from either John Richardson or Thomas Drummond.
As songs go I prefer Northwest passage "ah for just one time i would take the northwest passage to find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort sea."
A very fine song indeed , though not one in my personal repertoire - happy to sing it with you one day though!
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Second lot of blooms now on my Anemone multifida (A. tetonensis). Is this usual?
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No one got a view ???
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David, over here the plants are not sure whether we still have spring as we have not had summer yet :-\
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Same over here too Trond apart from the riviera parts of the UK like Essex and Kent.
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Hi, Trond! I'd be happy to send you some of our heat. We've been baking since the first of June. It's impossible to keep everything watered and stay financially solvent. :)
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Hello Claire,
I will gladly have some! Can't say we have been baked here. Still much snow in the mountains! The up side is , no need to water the plants ;)
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Anemone heldreichii
Anemone pavonina red
Anemone pavonina cream with pink blush
cheers
fermi