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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #270 on: September 19, 2011, 03:24:07 PM »
An interesting new Delosperma hybrid called 'Shining Purple' having light silvery foliage and bright purple flowers. By Marek Chaloupka.
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #271 on: September 19, 2011, 07:00:00 PM »
You are perfectly informed about my approach to Delosperma brunnthaleri which is of course available at
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=3795.msg156584;topicseen#msg156584
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The change of directory names smf to forum makes all references to the forum, internal and external,
obsolete. It is really not pleasant. Resurrection of smf would be the optimal solution.
I agree, Josef, it is far from ideal but the change has been made by WebMaster Fred in response to a serious problem and we are confident that the search engines will catch up with the new names soon. A search will find other links when redirected to the new forum. At present this is the best we can do. Rest assured that Fred is working on this and will do what he can. We do  not make such changes lightly, or without pressing cause.   

The link you show in your example is now
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3795.msg156584;topicseen#msg156584


 A change can be made to old links by the substitution of   forum    for     smf      in the link
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #272 on: September 19, 2011, 08:17:37 PM »
Ref.  the last two posts: please see this message from WebMaster Fred....
http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7903.msg215026#msg215026     :)
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #273 on: September 20, 2011, 01:28:55 PM »
Maggi,
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #274 on: October 24, 2011, 01:51:10 PM »
The original description of Delosperma brunnthaleri reminds of
Delosperma cloeteae included the location.
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #275 on: October 26, 2011, 09:48:30 PM »
The first snowfall of the season has driven me to my computer: I have been intrigued to look over all the postings since I last got on last spring...it has been a very busy year in Colorado and I am in the frenzy of getting seed prepared for exchanges and getting my gardens ready for winter. Mark McDonough let you all get a glimpse of a plant we will be releasing this coming year through the Plant Select program: There are two cultivars of this taxon.

The first two pictures are of the selection FIRESPINNER which will be released: it is the redder of two clones. The last picture is of the more orange clone, which has not been released, but which is charming in its own right.

Thought the SRGC forum ought to know about what is promising to be a truly spectacular plant. Blooms of Bressingham is working on the European rights for this.

It has been a spectacular and very hardy and vigorous garden plant for me.
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #276 on: October 26, 2011, 11:49:14 PM »
Spectacular plants, Panayoti ... many thanks for posting.
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #277 on: October 27, 2011, 10:55:45 AM »
Looks a fantastic plant Panayoti. I'm pleased to hear we might get a chance to obtain it here in Europe too.
How much does each individual plant spread?

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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #278 on: October 27, 2011, 03:30:00 PM »
It spreads roughly at the rate of Delosperma nubigenum 'Lesotho' (the sterile, original introduction not the smaller fertile ones)...in fact, it looks surprisingly like it in foliage except it does not turn red in the winter but stays a bright green. It seems to be just as hardier or a tad hardier even! It may even grow more quickly. It thrives in ordinary rock garden conditions (I have it planted with Lilium pumilum, Origanum 'Kent Beauty' and Paeonia cambessedessii nearby, as well as lots of silver saxifrages, campanulas of all sorts (alpestris, incurva) and globularias--the usual rock garden rabble. I planted only one plant: in the last two late summers I removed literally hundreds--maybe thousands--of cuttings lest it smother all its neighbors. Like D. nubigenum, it blooms most heavily in Spring, with only scattered flowers the rest of the year. Just as well: the flowers are almost too much of a good thing!
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #279 on: October 27, 2011, 04:18:07 PM »
Sigh!  :-X    I prefer the more orange form...... :D
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #280 on: October 28, 2011, 04:02:18 PM »
Firespinner

I hope that the plants are coming soon to Europe.
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #281 on: October 28, 2011, 07:24:56 PM »
How (and when) will it be released in the US, Panayoti? Specialist nurseries? Garden centers?
Like Maggi, I prefer the paler form but they are both stunning plants. Is it as vigorous and self-seeding as D. cooperii ?
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #282 on: October 29, 2011, 03:30:27 AM »
Delosperma 'Firespinner' will be sold in garden centers and by retail mail order nurseries across North America next spring. I suspect there are tens of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) already propagated as we speak. Plant Select has 67 wholesale nurseries producing plants, and I suspect each one of these will be cranking out lots of this already. Plant Delights and High Country Gardens will both be featuring it prominently in their spring catalogs.

It has not self sown for me yet, but I believe it will. It seems to have about the same growth requirements as Delosperma nubigenum (it may need a tad more shade than cooperi for you), but that said, most plants we have are in the full blast of Colorado sun and doing fine. It seems to be very tough thus far. Will be anxious to see it clamber on your slope soon!

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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #283 on: October 31, 2011, 03:53:55 PM »
Blooms of Bressingham is working on the European rights for this.
I wonder whether it is patented in Europe or solely trademarked
as its predecessors. And I would appreciate an information
about its origin. I am not interested in undefined garden
hybrids. If it is so hardy, my guess it is the plant growing
on Nardousberg in Sneeuberg massive was false.
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Re: delosperma & aizoaceae
« Reply #284 on: October 31, 2011, 09:36:34 PM »
Sure not a splendid Firespinner ;D, nevertheless charming tasty Orange Buds - Delosperma cv. 'Badenia Salmon'.

Photos taken in the last 2 weeks, plants are (outside) still flowering today.
D. cv. 'Badenia Salmon' is - together with D. abyssinicum, D. brunnthaleri hort. ex Eret ex Matk, some D. aberdeenense forms and Trichodiadema hirsutum - performing the latest flowers in my little collection this year.


Real juicy flowers.

First flush unexploited.

Recently alpiniced visited flower (> hole in the middle of collected Anthers).

Rarely solitary, often ternate or irregular even 2x-ternate cymes.

Diameter of flower is up to 2,5 cm.

Under certain climatic culturing conditions (high day-/night-temperature differences) petals are almost turning Red short bevor withering.

Almost finished...

Sepals subequal long, subgibbous at base, perfoming almost an intrusion by the obconical receptaculum.

The Sepals are notably increasing during fruit maturing.

Vegetative habit is typical for a borderliner of the crassuloid tribes within Delosperma - low subshrubby mats, occassional even with almost terete leaves, similar to D. saturatum or D. vinaceum.
They survived in my collection (dry & rain protected) during the past already -7°C and -10°C. Probably higher potential.
Delosperma cv. 'Badenia Red' and D. cv. 'Badenia Salmon' were once spontaneous germinating seedlings in the collection of Klaus Dinger (FgaS).

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