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Specific Families and Genera => Hepatica => Topic started by: Maggi Young on November 23, 2006, 05:38:31 PM
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I'm starting this thread to encourage new posts here for these lovely plants. I will show the links to the Hepatica pages of the "old" forum, too, so it is easy to link across to see the many glorious photos that are posted there. Please do not try to post to these "old" pages, they will soon be archived as "read only". Makes your comments and new posts here, please.
The links to the old pages are these:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/4/27630.html?1146653863 from April 2006
http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/4/24827.html?1143838345 from February 2006
http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/4/7071.html?1140727655 original hepatica page on old forum.
Enjoy!
Here are a couple of photos of a beautiful Hepatica given to us some time ago by President Ian C.
(boast, boast!)
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This is by way of a test run Maggie.Fantasic pics.
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John, am I pleased to see you? !!!
Now let's tackle the uploading of pix!
I'll email you
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Nothing to bear with John, I mean, everything's OK, loaded nicely. Lovely plant and yours too Maggi. I just can't seem to leave this alone. I really DO need to get a (another) life.
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Just ignore anything that appears under my name.I am a complete novice and am having terrible problems.The pics could be anything as I attempt to upload.
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John,
Could you tell us the name of the pink double?
I myself have no new images to show, but I have updates my Hepatica site these days.
http://www.abc.se/~m8449/anemone.html#Hepat (http://www.abc.se/~m8449/anemone.html#Hepat)
Virtual gardening and seed sowing are the only garden-related acticities possible this time of the year in Sweden. :-\
Hannelotte
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Well done John, you have made it. Soon it will all come naturally to you. Computers are like that you spend frustrating hours trying to work out how to do something then some one comes along and says, oh you just push that key, and hey presto.
While you can down load much bigger files to the new forum it is best if you keep the size down so we can view the whole picture on the screen.
I keep my pix to around 600 wide.
Looking forward to your next postrings.
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I haven't tried Hepaticas but have often "dribbled" at the pix on the old Forum. I think they are woodlanders-are they? But I don't have anywhere in the garden that is under trees with any reasonable depth of soil. What about a North facing raised bed which I seem to have problems growing anything in apart from a clump of Japanese Anemones, a few mini conifers and a couple of unknown Violas which flower regularly and get the minimum of attention. I was going to dig the bed up and build a row of cold-frames in its place instead. Would Hepaticas like it there? ???
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Hannelott,
Forgive the absence 0f a name but I did warn you to ignore any pics.that might appear under my name.I am still new to computers and am wrestling with the technology.However,I have visited your web-site and admire pics,and presentation very much.I will make another attempt to post some more pictures but don't hold your breath.
The pink double is ANJYU
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Apologies for the delay.Due to considerable perseverence of Maggi and Ian I think I am now able to show you my first flowers of this season,taken on the 22/11/06.
PHEW !!! thank goodness for that.
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Hoorah! This is great, John. Thanks for hanging in there, it was our pleasure to help.
It is lovely to see these flowers. Will you list their names for us?
I am amazed that they are making flowers at this time of year... but with the evidence elsewhere on these forum pages of, for instance, spring crocus making their appearance already, perhaps I should not be surprised!
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They are beautiful, John. May we know whereabouts your garden is?
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Good question, Anne. John, now we need you to tell us a bit about yourself ... on this page:
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=12.45
Thank you!
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They are from top to bottom ENSHU - TOUKOU - and SAKURANSAT.The comparison shows TOUKOU in it's early opening stages and it's final maturity.
Here is a plant full of fat buds showing early promise,and an un-named japanese single in full flower from last year.
That will be all from me until something new arrives.
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anne, i had a large collection of japanese hepaticas last winter but unfortunately neglected them this year so have lost a few.EXPENSIVE!. anyway i live about a mile away from sylvia medd and i've also got the rare double blue form of the european hepatica nobilis and the normal double pink. so when they come in flower you could alwalys pop over. oh yeh and i have ellison spence and a different double blue form of transsylvanica. so plenty to see! 8)
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some very nice plants! I have some Hepaticas in flower now just just a flower here and there. Maggi does your plant have a name or is it a seedling?
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Crikey, Mark, can't remember! It came from Ian the Christie kind. I'll go ask the Bulb Despot if he recalls its name. It isn't actually flowering now, I just posted the pix to introduce the page! There are odd flowers about on the heps.
No. the despot can't remember, either, maybe the President will help, though I think he's off to speak in England, too, so he may not be about!
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;)
What an active discussion about Hepa's when they're not even in flower yet.
It's clear we all cannot wait for them to flower - next years thread will likely even outclass this year's ! What a great prospect !
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Hello
My name is Joakim and I am also from Sweden (Lund). The very south part of Sweden and here it is some amazing things happening in the Botanical garden.
I saw a flowering hepatica transylvania on Sunday and there were nice buds on the nobilis that are newly planted. There will be a nice spring.
I also saw that people were looking looking for the doubles and Ii saw that that a Swedish new website have them.
The adress is www.hepatica.se
It is not clear if they sell the plants still small for the stated price 14€ for double blue or 9€ for the pink or if they will wait untill next year.
I have not bought anything from them so I do not know if they are good or not.
I have enjoyed the pics and am a bit unused to the plants blooming already now, but maybe it is like that in the UK.
Kind regards
Joakim
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You all got carried away with the pictures and no-one responded to my rotten old query as to whether my north facing raised bed might be any good for a spot of Hepaticaa growing (wipes tears from eyes :'()
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Dont cry! I have 3 in northish facing troughs and they seem to be OK with nice fat buds for next year. nobalis 'Cremar' is much healthier, for me, out of sun. No sun from early November but sun in the mornings during mid summer
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A gentleman and a scholar as the saying goes-thanks Mark I will give a try to a couple of plants and see how I go on.
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Hi David,
I have some Hepatica right alongside a North facing wall and they seem to enjoy it ... :)
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Howdy All,
First post in the new Forum (Yes, I do still exist) and it just HAD to be on Hepaticas. LOL Those doubles that were posted were absolutely amazing!!!!!! More! More!! (and pics from everyone else of their various Hepaticas too please! <grin>)
Thanks in anticipation.
Signed...... a Hepatica admirer who is rapidly becoming addicted!!
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Wellcome to the new Forum Paul
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Thanks Franz. Nice to be here!!
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:) :)
Great to have you back with us Paul !
:) :)
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Luc-thanks for the encouragement I shall try my North facing raised bed.
Paul-hi and welcome to the New Forum, nice to hear from you
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Hello and welcome to Joakim, and I hope we will hear more from you - I know many fine hepaticas have come from Sweden. And welcome back Paul! How come you are credited with 15 posts when you say it is your first? You're cheating!! ;D
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Anne et al,
Thanks for the welcome back. This new forum doesn't put the number of each post beside the post, it puts the total number of postings by the person against every posting by the person. By the time you saw my first post I had made 15 postings in under 24 hours..... so every one of those posts now has 15 beside it..... well actually higher now as I am posting more today! :D
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These images come courtesy of Niclas who owns the web site shown above http://www.hepatica.se/undermenyer/index_englisch.htm (http://www.hepatica.se/undermenyer/index_englisch.htm)
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Mark,
Oh Wow!!!!!!! That last one in particular!! Beautiful.
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Hi Anne
Thanks for the wellcome :)
I hope to have something more to say about hepaticas later and then with pictures. :)
Now I can only admire pictures.
Yes I am also looking forward to see what they have in the botanical garden in Lund.
Maybe it is something special since Severin Schlyter is from Lund. I know nothing and just discovered the hepticas recently and do not know if they are recient or not.
Lovely pictures that really make me want to get hold of some doubles.
Kind regards
Joakim B
Lund Sweden / Coimbra Portugal
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Dear all
I hope I did the right thing by starting a new thread and not continue on the other "old" hepatica thread, if not I am sorry and hope the admin can fix it.You are most welcome to make a new thread, Joakim! M
I have had hepaticas in Sweden for a long time and am now thinking oftaking some from the garden to Portugal with summer temps on 30C up to almost 40 C with very litle change in the night, and with some winters with a maximum cold of plus 10C.
Are the summers too warm and the winters too warm also? We can have it under hydrogenia (hortensia) with a good shade to get it out of the sun. The winters are free from frost so they would be good for the asiatic more delicate (and expensive) sorts I belive so if the summers are too hot then :(.
Another question, if I may, is regarding if the pink in hepaticas is receive and when pollinated with a blue they always come out blue?
The reason I ask is that we have an old 30-40 years old hepatica in the garden that is pink and it blooms slightly before the blue ones but also blooms at the same time as the blue That have not resulted in any pink seedlings. The pink later turns to white and is quite nice if I may say so myself. I hope to post pictures of them later when they bloom. We have not tried to pollinate it but there are blue hepaticas around and there are some seedlings being spread along the ant path. Can the pink form be sterile?
Can we try to self pollinate the pink with it self and expect seed or is a different plant needed? We can use different flowers but it is the same plant.
I hope there is an answer since I would like to have more pink ones and also take some to Portugal eventually.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Hi Joakiin,
I do not think the summers are too warm in Portugal. I live in the east of Austria and we have temperatures to 37° C in the summer, and the Hepatica nobilis grows marvellously in our forests near Vienna. However you must cultivate the plants in full shade. No frost in the winter is an advantage, since frost destroys the leaves.
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Thank You Franz :)
I saw on Your very nice webpage that You have hepaticas in Austria, but was not sure if they also grew at lower altitudes or if they only grew in the Alps.
Now I only need to find out more about the pink hepatica.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Does anyone know if pink is rececive in hepaticas so that there is a need for two pinks to give a pink flower and a pink and blue will always only give blue flowers?
Is it possible to polinate a flower with itself or do they have any protection so that an other plant is needed?
Also I would be interseted to know if it is comon with sterile plants amongst old cultivars (Swedish) of pink hepaticas?
Hopefull for response
Joakim
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Hi
Also in Cluj, Romania at about 500-600 m in altitude, Hepatica nobilis [both blue and pink] is growing quite hapilly in forests and gardens. Summer highs over 30C and average annual rains of about 600mm.
Razvan
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Welcome to the new forum, Razvan, good to have you here!
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Thanks for that info Razvan :)
Do You know if the same goes for hepatica transylvanica?
I must admit I do not where in Romania Cluj is, but hope it is in the hepatica transylvanica belt :)
Congratulations in seeing nice hepaticas close by.
Kind regards
Joakim
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I started growing Hepaticas last year and my new stock are just beginning to show signs of new life I am awaiting the possible emergence of new plants from the seed I have sown last year. I thought now would be a good time to rejoin the Hepatica forum and learn more about the cultivation :)
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Hello, Norman, welcome to the forum. You should be able to discover quite a lot about growing hepaticas here and in the pages of the old forum (see links at the beginning of this page).
There is some reference to them in Ian Young's Bulb Log too, which may be useful.
We are still waiting for them to wake up from winter, here in Aberdeen.
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Even if this year's Hepatica thread is only half as good as last year's, it will still be fabulous. I count the days... :)
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I grow my hepaticas in an East-facing bed, shaded by bamboo,
but getting a bit of sun, occasionally even in winter on rare days.
I grow plants that need summer water here, like Arisaemas
and other East Asian and Eastern U.S. woodlanders, as it is
right beside the front door, so a very handy spot to empty cold tea
and the pan of dish-rinsing water.
I keep a cloche over my single Japanese double during the winter.
Growing any of these in our very dry woodland would not work.
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Usually I don't order hepatica seeds from seed exchanges since I almost
never get germination. However, this year I decided to order from NARGS.
I figure there is always the chance that some just-ripened seeds have
been airmailed from New Zealand.
They have just arrived, and I am surprised at the differences among the
seeds. The maxima seeds look fresh - half white and half green, and much
larger than the other two species. None from New Zealand, though. Maxima
is from Poland and/or two people in the U.S. who perhaps have Polish names,
one of whom also sent the insularis, nobilis is from Lund (Sweden), and Manchester.
I put them to soak, and then decided to photograph them. I couldn't find
any centimetre paper, so here they are on quarter inch graph paper. On my
monitor, they are life-sized, but I don't know whether that will be the same here.
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Thanks for showing the seeds :)
Regarding not fresh nobilis seed I have heard that rubbing them with a litle bit of sand makes them easier to grow.Carefull not to damage the "eye" though. I do not know if it works but it is supposed to have come from the Hepatica master in Lund, but I do not know if it is so.
Your seeds look fresher than what can be expected so maybe they have been stored in the fridge??
I am from Lund Sweden but had nothing to do with the seeds or the advise, since I am not a Hepatica master :'(.
Good luck and hope You will get interesting results out of Your seeds.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Hepaticas seem to be popular in Lund. The donor of these seeds
is Maimu Jonsson. Are you acquainted?
I like knowing who the seeds are from. NARGS shows the donors
even of garden seeds if only a few send them. If more than three
send them, the seeds are considered to be widely-grown, so names
are not shown.
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Diane
I am not acquanted with Maimu Jonsson. BTW I have never heared the name "Maimu" before.
Yes there is a big interest in Hepaticas all over Sweden now and they grow wild here so people want them in their gardens as well. They are protected so the eonly legal sorce is from other growers or more rarely gardencenters.
Kin regards
Joakim
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The hepaticas are responding to the recent spell of warm days and nights and of course the lengthening days.Although still sparse in numbers I thought you might like to view a few of the earlybirds
They are,top to bottom DAISHIHOU - ACUTILOBA - YAMATUTAI X JAPONICA - JAPONICA FROM SEED
added from later post
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These are the others
again, added from a later post: JAPONICA -TOEN - PYRENAICA - DAISHIHOU
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Thanks John
I am enjoying them greatly.
Can You tell me what sorts they are for a beginner like me and also if You are growing them indors or outdoors.
Thank You very much for sharing
Kind regards
Joakim
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Lovely to see these flowers so early in the year, John, thank you.
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Hi John - fabulous flowers - I too would like to know if they are indoors or outdoors?
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Hello Chris
All of these hepaticas are grown under glass all the year round.I used to move them outside from April to Oct.but as the collection expanded through successive propogation by seed and division I ran out of suitable bench space outside apart from the physical effort of transferring them twice a year.They are heavily shaded in the late Spring and Summer months with continuous ventilation.
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Sorry Joakim,missed yours.They are,top to bottom DAISHIHOU - ACUTILOBA - YAMATUTAI X JAPONICA - JAPONICA FROM SEED
JAPONICA TOEN - PYRENAICA - DAISHIHOU
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Hi John - many thanks for your reply - I know all about the physical effort that you speak of only too well, as I still move my big terracotta pots, that I use to grow my Canna, into the garage over the winter (or at least I did until this year, when I decided to get someone younger & fitter than me to do it!)
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Thanks John
Now I have names to the lovely pics
Joakim
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Stunning pictures and Hepaticas John.
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Here are a few more new arrivals that I managed to catch while they were open in today's afternoon sunshine.They really respond to the warmth.
ex.Tenginbai(not fully open).jpg
H.jap.(own seedling).jpg
H.japonica ex.Aka Fukurin.jpg
H.japonica(own seed).jpg
Jap.(own seed).jpg
H.japonica(own seed).jpg
Japonica.jpg
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and the rest.
Japonica double.jpg
Japonica ex.seed.jpg
Japonica from seed.jpg
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Hi John
Terrific pictures once again - you are in danger of getting me hooked on Hepatica!
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Does anyone know how long hepatica seeds remain viable?
I bought fresh seeds from a UK nursery and sowed them upon receipt in May 2005.
Late in December 2005, one of six seeds of H. henryi, and two of eleven seeds of
H. transsylvanica germinated. They still have just their cotyledons, but their first
true leaves are just emerging. Such slow growers! How could these ever be a
commercial plant?
I have had no germination since, from those two species, or from the others:
insularis, asiatica, yamatutai and pubescens.
Shall I continue to live in hope?
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Hello Dianne,
My own experience is that seed sown fresh in April/May will more often than not germinate in late Jan/Feb of the following year.The species I find to be less predictable and are certainly less reliable than nobilis,japonica,pubescens and pyrenaica.Acutiloba and americana are also fairly predictable.The longest time that I would give them is two seasons.You will require grat patience as you have already deduced,they are very slow.I usually prick mine out the Autumn following germination when they will still only have their cotyledons and a tiny,just visible hard shoot.I put 15/20 into a 3ltr.pot as they appear to like company.I used to prick out into individual two inch long pots but I incurred more losses that way.I think because it is more difficult to maintain that constsantly moist but not wet compost that they prefer.
It is normally 3 yrs.before you will see a flower though there are exceptions if you grow a lot and I think you should expect to wait at least 5yrs before you have a half decent plant.That is why the doubles are so hard to come by and so expensive because one is loathe to divide when you have waited so long to get a plant well covered in flowers.GOOD LUCK!!!
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A couple of pix to illustrate the words
Hepatica seedlings sown May 05 P.O.Oct 06.jpg
Hepatica 8 or 9yrs old.jpg
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here the first japanese are start flowering, the first from seed and from the second I have only a number: G34
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Hepatica Nobilis grows quite well here in the west of Ireland and we do not get much cold weather. have to keep it well shaded in the summer though
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another 2:
first a Japanese from seed and a H.nobilis var.pyrenaica
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Chris, they are super. Your last pic of H.nobilis var.pyrenaica is everything that I admire in a flower, neat, full petals and a starry contrast with the stamens.
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I couldn't agree more Maggi - it's a beautiful specimen !
Thanks Chris !
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This is a repeat post, I posted it in the general forum by mistake.
That's okay, Michael, I changed that thread to a "books for sale/wanted page" so folks will see it there too. I can see why you have posted it here though! M
Can anyone help me locate a book on the cultivation and hybridising of Hepaticas.
I have tried all the usual sources and failed to locate any kind of book on the subject. There is not even one on cultivation.
I do have the Ashwood cultural guide, but I want something with more information.
Cheers
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I will save some seeds for you, Maggi
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I recall seeing hepatica information in Japanese - the photos were very explicit, so a lot of information could be learned without needing words.
If I can remember where I saw it, I will post again.
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Chris, thank you very much, I would like that.
Diane, wasn't there a url given on the old forum hepatica pages for a good Japanese site? I'll check when I get a minute.
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The url of the International Hepatica Society is www.ihsj.org/ but they still have no link to the word "English" on their homepage. So, instead of going directly to their site, do a Google search for
International Hepatica Society, and click on (Translate this page). Google has a Beta version of
a Japanese translator and it isn't bad, though it takes concentration to understand some
of the technicalities in the article on breeding for doubles, and English seems to need more space than Japanese, so there is doubling up in some areas.
Then click on the word "Japanese". I didn't do this last year as I assumed the articles would all be in Japanese, but they are all translated into English by Google. This will lead to the menu which includes cultivation - 5 articles from different places in Japan - this is necessary because of the climatic differences - for instance, Tokyo with its hot steamy summers requires a different method of growing.
This does not show all the photos of how to grow hepaticas, though. I must have been thinking of a book.
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Diane, thank you for the information and Hepatica link. I understand what you mean by needing a little concentration to understand the translation, but as Tesco, says every little helps.
Cheers.
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I took this self sown hepatica out of my plunge today, and noticed these root nodules. I've seen similar ones on the odd cyclamen. Anybody know what they are?
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Anne, I have seen these little root nodules on some plants. Were they on a legume, I would say they were nitrogen nodules, where the plant is fixing extra nitrogen in these nodules. But I'm not sure which other plants might do this too. I would be inclined to think nitrogen nodules, though.
There, that should bring a scientist out of the shrubbery to tell us more!
I have found this reference to a scientific paper from 1967 :The Role of Dryas Drummondii in Vegetation Development Following Ice Recession at Glacier Bay, Alaska, with Special Reference to Its Nitrogen Fixation by Root Nodules
D. B. Lawrence, R. E. Schoenike, A. Quispel, G. Bond
The Journal of Ecology, Vol. 55, No. 3 (Nov., 1967), pp. 793-813 doi:10.2307/2258426
So if it occurs in Dryas drummondii then hepaticas and cyclamen are surely a possibility? !!
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I did wonder about nitrogen fixing nodules, but haven't heard of any members of the Ranunculaceae or Primulaceae having them.
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Anne,I have not experienced these nodules myself but there is an excellent article in the Alpine Gardener volume 73 Sept.2005 which is required reading for any hepatica enthusiast.In it the writer under the heading of PESTS refers to (root knot nematodes(eelworms).He states that hepaticas are particularly prone to them and that the root knots shoud be plucked off when dividing or re-potting.Perhaps that could explain the condition of your roots ?
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Hmm, maybe it's better if I just throw it out to be on the safe side. I have to say though that the plant was doing very well on it!
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Yikes, John, thanks for this, guess what we're all off to find and read? :-\
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Thanks for that information Michael
If I find a shaded place here in portugal that fits the needs for hepaticas I might try it. :)
Makes me less homesick. :-[
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here the next two in flower,H.'Tinkinsyo' is a little bit different than last year
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It was -6c here last night but a lovely sunny day brought the hepaticas out
Hanaguruma.jpg
Hanaguruma close-up.jpg
Hiryou.jpg
jap.seedling.jpg
jap.seedling close-up.jpg
Maiougi seedling.jpg
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We had -6c last night but a lovely sunny day brought the hepaticas forward
japonica seedling.jpg
Maiougi seedling.jpg
Oriheme.jpg
own seed.jpg
Own seedling.jpg
pyrenaica.jpg
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It is such a treat to see these lovely pictures of wonderfull hepaticas
Thank You.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Glad you liked them Joakim here are a few more
Hanaguruma.jpg
Hanaguruma close-up.jpg
Hiryou.jpg
jap.seedling.jpg
jap.seedling close-up.jpg
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and finally
Sango-kaku.jpg
Seedling from Maiougi.jpg
Tamamadori.jpg
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John are You able to grow pyreneica outdoors?
I had the feeling it was grown indoors.
It really is great to look at them.
It make me want to go out in the hill sides of my parents summer house and look at the hepatica nobilis that are there.
Are You growing any of the hardy ones outside? Sorry if I have asked before but my memory is not the best.
Thanks for the treat
Joakim
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Great pictures John and Chris, what a wealth of stunning plants !
You got me hooked.
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John,
I too would welcome some information on how you grow and where you grow if you have the time please.
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All of the hepaticas shown are grown in plastic pots and under glass but with only the very minimum frost protection.I use the formula reccomended by Ashwood,that is equal parts JI2,leafmould and perlite.I do grow several hepaticas outside including pyrenaica and transylvanica and most of it's cultivars.They are completely hardy and I have patches of transylvanica and triloba that have been there for more than 30yrs.
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Thanks for taking the time to do that John-it gives hope to us "lesser beings" to give 'em a go. Can I take it that your garden is particularly shady?
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Not reaally,I have some shady areas but the long established transylvanicas and trilobas are in a fairly open situation and when they were planted 30+ yrs.ago they were in a fully exposed position with no shade whatsoever.I find that they are very versatile and will grow in sun or shade so go on have a go.
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A couple more
japonica from seed.jpg
Daishihou.jpg
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great plants, info etc
I'll ask a question that got debate in the last forum
remove the leaves or leave them on?
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Not reaally,I have some shady areas but the long established transylvanicas and trilobas are in a fairly open situation and when they were planted 30+ yrs.ago they were in a fully exposed position with no shade whatsoever.I find that they are very versatile and will grow in sun or shade so go on have a go.
I am sorely tempted John.
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In answer to your question Mark,I think the answer has to be remove.Firstly ,by the time that the new flower buds start to form, the leaves of most plants are dead or nearly dead anyway and add nothing to the appearance of the plant.
I did have a few plants which had retained their leaves in a very healthy condition up until 3 weeks ago and it was my intention to keep the leaves on but I found that the leaves were impeding the emergence of the flowers whereupon I removed the central leaves.However I decided to remove the remainder as I was unhappy with the overall look of the plant.In addition those plants that do retain a healthy crop of leaves also produce another crop of healthy leaves and would make the task of removing the old leaves very irksome indeed.
That is my opinion for what it is worth.
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Given the quality of John Gennard's plants, I'm going to go along with his "remove" advice in future.
John, would you say that early January would be a good time to remove the leaves? They may have given a degree of protection until then and any new growth will hardly have begun, I would think. Or would you do this earlier?
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Maggi,in my answer I was referring to my plants in pots and therfore under glass so the protection is'nt required.I think under protection that you could remove the leaves from Nov.onwards.I remove progressively as the leaves show signs of age.
As far as my plants in the open ground are concerned I would remove transylvanica in Jan.and nobilis/pyrenaica a little later.
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Thank you for this clarification, John. Ours are all either in the open garden or in uncovered plunges, we just take one in to the glasshouse on occasion to adore at close quarters!
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if anyone has anything really special to swap i might trade in my jajpanese hepaticas! (gasp!) i'm particularly interested in forms of transsilvanica and european nobilis
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John wonderful flowers, time for showing some plants from me:
Hep.jap.'Picotee'
Hep.jap.'Tsumabeni'
Hep.jap.'Yuki Warabe'
Hep.jap.'Hana Kage' not fully open yet
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Chris, beautiful plants and fantastic pictures. Thank you
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thanks David, the pictures are from my new camera and now the colors are verry good I find
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Chris
Super pics.Sometimes I think some of the varieties are more effective at their earlier stages of opening.The sepals on your last picture are particularly effective.I look forward to your next lot.
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As a matter of interest,can anyone tell me how one can post more than 3 images of 100kb each on a single posting ?
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John the limmit is ten pics of less than 300 each.
So no problem posting more than tree just use
Additional options attach and then more attachments and then You have all the pics in the end.
If You want to have the pics in the text someone else need to explain tha since I do not know.
Thanks for the pics Chris and John
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Great stuff John and Chris !
Amazing plants and pictures.
Thanks again
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Re posting pix: a quote from the General Forum thread on forum posting:A: Admin has set the max size for an image (for any type of attachment in fact) at 300K and a max of 10 attachments per post. Members are encouraged to make the attachment file sizes smaller though, for practical reasons.
Pictures / attachments don't show in the preview - that's just a limitation of the software. I would suggest re-sizing all your pics to a max width / height of 640 px. This means that in standard landscape format most will be 640 x 480 or thereabouts.
Q: “So I see the pic I posted (one of two, the other the same but with 284KBs) but where's the text that went with it?”
A: “If you want to immediately see your post in the thread after you've posted, I found that you need to do this: Click 'profile' to go to your profile section, under 'modify profile' click 'look and layout', then tick the box that says 'return to topics after posting by default' then click 'change profile'.
Then, when you've posted, your screen immediately goes back to the thread and you can see your post, check photos have appeared etc.”
Q:”I had tried to attach 4 images which would have exceeded the 300Kb limit and that was my problem, obviously. Hard to upload multiple images then?”
A: Not correct.
Update 2013
Each image can be 200K 5 images max. per post. That's 1meg. Within these limits, user are asked to act responsibly as you can imagine it would be possible to use up vast resources.
I strongly advise EVERYONE to read the official forum "HELP" pages, found via the HELP button second left in the toolbar at left, above : Home Help,Search, Admin etc. as well as the pages giving "Help is at Hand" in the General pages at the beginning of the Forum Topics page. This is the thread you need: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=41.0 (http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=41.0)
Admin has been more than generous with his limitiations on file size, but I would ask you not to get carried away with posting huge pix. Very large sizes need scroll bars to view the entire image and most forumists find that VERY irritating! A picture that can be seen, complete, in an average screen is best, trust me, I'm not a doctor! There is plenty advice already on the forum about posts, textx in posts, picture sizes, etc. Please take the time to familiarise yourselves with these.
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Maggi
Thanks for that.I was under the impression that the max.was 300kb for each post.
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You are welcome, John.
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very nice photos everyone. Some if not all of my plants are still in full leaf. I'll remove the leaves next weekend when I can have a full day in the garden
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Here are a few more pics.Note the new leaves on Daishihou.I certainly would'nt want the old leaves on as well.
Acutiloba.jpg
Acutiloba close-up.jpg
Ashwood WhtRed stamens.jpg
Benikanzan.jpg
Daishihou with new leaves.jpg
Red Seedling.jpg
Hiryou.jpg
Ryokurin.jpg
Yumeji.jpg
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Wonderful show John !
Magnificent flowers.
Wouldn't know which one to choose first !
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Wonderful show John !
Magnificent flowers.
Wouldn't know which one to choose first !
Luc has taken the words right out of my mouth!
Chloë
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Hello,
I've that H. nobilis var. nobilis and I don't know if it is a rare one or if there are already Hepaticas who look like that.
Best wishes, Katrin
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Hello, Katrin, nice to have you back with us in the new forum. I like you hepatica but I do not know enough to say how rare that type might be.
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Hello Maggi,
I'm reading at the new forum for a few weeks, but spring has just begun here (about six weeks too early because of our lack of snow).
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Katrin, I like verry much that blue one with the white centre, here 4 japanese pink forms from seed:
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Pleased to see you back Chris.Your seedlings are very much the same as I am getting.Here are a few that I took today but none of them are from my own seed.I WISH !!!
1) assorted hepaticas 2) 'Hiryou' 3) H. japonica seedling 4) 'Yumeji' 5) H. japonica deep pink
6) H. japonica 7) 'Ryokurin' 8 H. japonica
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John, I have edited your post to include the names of your fab hepaticas in the text, so that the forum search facility can find them.
They are super, all in great health. That deep pink japonica in picture no. 5 is stunner. And the last, even deeper pink, one is yummy, too!
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A few early ones, I am still waiting for most of mine to come out
1. Hepatica x media "Ballardii"
2. Hepatica japonica "Suien"
3. ditto
4. A plain single white H nobilis, with thanks to Chris V from whence it came as a seedling last year
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Chris, John and Diane what are you trying to do to us ? You're making us all green with envy !
;D
So much beauty all over !
Thanks for sharing !
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Diane, what a beautiful picture of "Ballardii"
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beautiful flowers, I have now ballardii and hope to see the same colr of yours, Diane.
John nr.3 + 5 are verry nice.
here tree pictures from a japanese Hepatica, just to show how the flower change
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Very interesting Chris - how much time is there inbetween the pictures ?
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Intersting pictures Chris.That is what makes them so fascinating.I know of no other flower that warrants such close inspection on a regular basis and gives so much pleasure over such a long period.The jewels of the floral world I think.
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John you'r right it are the jewels of the floral world. Luc from opening and the last photo it is about 7 - 10 days, the first year the plant flowered I saw just flowers like the first photo, so for the people who buy plants just be patient for one or two years and than you will see the beauty of the plant.
Here it is now full saison of the japanese Hepaticas, most of them are inside the cold greenhouse,
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Brilliant stuff Chris - Shihouden is a real stunner !
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The hepaticas here are still lagging behind, I've not very many out yet. Just a couple to show
1. Hepatica "Kanzan"
2. Hepatica "Junisen"
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Very nice Diane. I have a few first year of flowering seedling hepaticas out now as well. Late summer and still a silly season so far as many plants are concerned.
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You all got me hooked ::) I look forward to late March, when the ground in Norway is covered with Hepatica nobilis. I will try to send You a photo when times come.
Thank You so much for all the lovely photoes.
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beautiful H.'Kazan', H.'Junisen looks the same as H.'Kimihiko, another photo of H.'Hana Kage' the same as on page 7, the flower is open now. A japanese specie without name and H.'Hokkiko' a verry small beauty:
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H.'Junisen looks the same as H.'Kimihiko,
Hi Chris
"Junisen" IS identical to "Kimihiko". When I sent it to you, I did not know the name, so I labelled it as "kimihiko" which is the name of my friend who gave it to me. I have since found out the cultivar name, which is "Junisen". Japanese cultivars with "sen" in the name mean they are a full double as "sen" means "thousand" (as in thousand petals).
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I have been enjoying all the wonderful Hepaticasshown by the members of the millionaire's club (having seen the price of someof them).
Here is my humble offering.
1 & 2 a seedling from one of my own
3 One I got from Ewelina Wajgert, who doesn't seem to have joined in this thread yet. Hope you are well if you are lurking on th side Ewelina.
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John, I love the double blue and all the other doubles but I can't help but feel the elegant singles are really what is best in a hepatica. This is probably sour grapes on my part as while we have a few "ordinary" doubles, pink and blue here, we haven't seen the more complicated Japanese forms and perhaps never will unless we can find a seed source which is likely to produce at least some doubles.
I join you in hoping Ewelina is well and lurking out there. I miss her on this thread and miss her lovely plants and pictures. It was great on the old Forum to have a Polish connection and learn something of what gardeners do in that relatively remove part of the world. Remote from me at least. So Hi Ewelina, we hope you'll rejoin us soon
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I was in touch with Ewelina recently and she is fine, just very busy with work and with her garden. She'll be back later!
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why do my plants that I grow in long toms never look at good as I see on here?
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Don't be modest John !
Great looking plants - I love the true blue !
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thanks for H.'Junisen', Diane. I'm not a millionair John but I have the luck that I can exchange Helleborus for japanese Hepaticas, Mark most of my plants I grow in cold greenhouse and I think that's the reason why they look good, rain and wind is outside and dont damage the flowers.
here tree photo's from H.'Sandan sire', the flower schange in about 7 days
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Your photos showing the change in the flower of 'Sandan Sire' are most interesting, Chris. I wouldn't have believed it was the same flower, what a transformation!
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here another changing Hepatica, maby not so spectacular but also a beauty, Hep.'Cho no Mai'
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Nice pictures Chris.Sandan-sire is very interesting but I am not sure whether I like it or not.Most of my hepaticas have past their best now with only one or two exceptions,mainly pyrenaica forms.
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Can any of you Hepatica growers tell me something about the names of the Japanese forms?
Do they represent a person's name, such as Narcissus 'Cedric Morris' or are they more like 'Bright Star', 'Moonlight Wonder' and so on? They seem so exotic, I would be disappointed to learn these rippling names translated as 'small fat one' !! ;)
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All Japanese flower names that I have seen translated have been a poetic
description or a reference to a literary figure.
There must have been a mistake made in Sandan Sire, as Japanese does not
have an 'si' syllable. It has 'shi'.
It is difficult to know the meaning of a name without seeing it written in
characters. Cho no mai, for example. 'no' is a preposition and means
'of' 'at' 'in' etc. 'Mai' can mean 'dance' or 'soaring'. 'Cho' has many meanings,
from 'butterfly' to 'pimple' 'street' 'intestines' and even more. Let's choose
a suitable name for a flower from the possibilities: "Dance of a Butterfly".
It sounds good, and only a person able to read the characters would know
whether that is right.
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"Dance of a Butterfly"
does sound good, Diane, better than "soaring intestines", anyhow. Mind you, with some of the stranger doubles, that could still be a possibility!
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Just keeping up with the forum whilst visiting with my bother in law in Tenerife.
Isnt it good to have forumists like Diane to answer these questions for us.
I like the poetic name Dance of a butterfly, much less embarrasing than some of the Sax varieties.
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Watching alpines from Tenerife must be quite special John !
I can think of worse and more "down to earth" occupations.
Have fun !
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Isnt Kojo butterfly? As in Prunus 'Kojo no Mai'?
these you will either hate or love. I like it. It reminds me of Geranium pratense ver striatum. No two flowers are the same. They are out of focus - sorry
Hepatica nobilis 'Prickle'
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Are these flowers from the same plant Mark ???
I'm with the ones that love them : quite special !
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John's post and pix moved to the Loughborough Show page. http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=327.new#new
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Isnt Kojo butterfly? As in Prunus 'Kojo no Mai'?
More likely "Princess", though it can also be lonely, kindness, ambition, a factory . . . . . and a few more.
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Isnt Kojo butterfly? As in Prunus 'Kojo no Mai'?
My Japanese friend staying with me at the moment says that "Kojo no Mai" means Dancing in the old castle.
More hepaticas
Hepatica Koetsu - a lovely dark blue double
and a single dark pink unnamed
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Stunning, Diane, I love the richer colours.
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Diane never mind Dance like a butterfly how about sting like a bee (with apologies to thoose too young to remember this quote)
Here is my Hepatica Rubra plena still small but looking as if it has found the right spot in the garden. The only downside is that I have to crawl around on my belly to look at it
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Ian,
I bought my rubra from Ashwood 6yrs. ago and it flowered for the first time this year.I know it is in a pot but so are most of my others.I think I will plant it outside as you have done and see if it performs any better.
Here is Ellison Spence plus three forms of pyrenaica.
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John, are you sure of the name of "Clarence Elliot"? It looks very much like "Elison Spence"
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Dianne,
How stupid of me.You are so right,of course it is Ellison Spence.I have been potting rooted cuttings of primula Clarence Elliot and obviously was a little confused when posting.Thanks for the correctio.
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Mark I like the different flowers of Hepatica nobilis 'Prickle',I hope my H.'Ellison Spence' will flower next year, the plant is to young I think, another tree plants first H.'Ryoku-un' a tiny green only 1cm across, H.'Haku-ho' and H.'Ho Sen'
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I like all Hepaticas you show, except the green one in the last post ;). It's a bit to exotic for me, I suppose.
Here are some self-found Hepatica nobilis var. nobilis.
VLG, Katrin
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Hello in the new season.
Today by us it is ugly weather, therefore I can see the photos, that I made in the last days. Some of them I will share with you.
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Hello, Ewelina, I am glad that your bad weather means good news for us here, with your fine photos!
We were expecting bad weather here, also, and though it got very cold and windy earlier last night, it faded and now the day is bright. It is cold and there is wind, so perhaps we will be getting the snow and gales we were told about later.
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Don't give me a scare, Maggi. I have digged up the tall bearded iris (TB) and didn't manage to plant them.
...once again - last hepaticas
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I do like Sakuma Ewelina,but is it blue or lilac ?
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It is definitely blue.
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An interesting Hepatica which I have seen in my garden today. What is its name?
Hans
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For anyone new to these beautiful plants, here is a link to one of Ian Chrisitie's Nursery Workshop pages, giving a rundown on Hepaticas species etc: http://www.srgc.org.uk/nurseryws/040404/content.html
Enjoy!
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It was windy tomorrow, but after long time awaiting with ready camera, I have taken some photos.
The next Sakuma
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Super photo Ewelina.that is what I call blue.
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I remember some terrific cobalt blue seedlings you showed last year on the forum, JoF, how are they doing?
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Do you think abot it, Maggi?
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Gorgeous!! Periwinkle hepatica!
(After Mark's magnolia crocus the other day).
Chloë
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Oh, yes, I LOVE these blues!
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It is now enough big, because we didn't divide it, but it haven't seeds last year.
And in the same hue we have "Elison Spence", that all just know.
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On my website in section "TRIPS", I have just installed photo report of my brother from Andes. Text is in polish, but the photos tell you more. All interested find there certainly some of high mountains' plants.
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what is the fern in photo 12 and the conifer in photo 13?
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Mark, which photos are you referring to?
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Mark, the fern is Adianthum pedatum and I don't know what is the name of the conifer. This is a piece from Caucasus with very long needles.
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Hi Maggi
it took me a while to work out which photos were being referred to. If you visit Ewelina’s website and look at the ‘My Garden’ link – you can then see pictures 12 and 13. Oh! Thanks, John, Maggi
Regards
John
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http://waja.strefa.pl/ogrod/index_ogrod.htm (http://waja.strefa.pl/ogrod/index_ogrod.htm) How tall is the fern?
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How tall is the fern?
About 40-50 cm
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Hans,
Many thanks for the list via Ian/Maggi and apologies for the trouble caused.Much appreciated.
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People often ask me about raising Hepatica from seed and when it germinates. I sow mine in May, at the point it drops off the plant (still green). In the following February to March, 9 to 10 months later they MAY germinate with me. If not, do not give up hope, as often with me, they germinate a full year later at the same time of year. The first picture shows new germination this weekend of seeds sown May 2005. The second picture shows some seedlings exactly one year on from that, they have still the old cotyledons attached as the new true leaf emerges with the recognisable hepatica tri-lobe shape. The third picture shows a good potful of three year olds, some of these at flowering size.
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while weeding on Saturday I found a self sown seedling from last year with a flower. Even though I think I have collected all seeds from my plants too many are germinating around the parent plants. How and when can I move them elsewhere?
Thanks for the info on the fern
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while weeding on Saturday I found a self sown seedling from last year with a flower. Even though I think I have collected all seeds from my plants too many are germinating around the parent plants. How and when can I move them elsewhere?
I'd move it the Autumn, Mark. If it's in flower, it will probably be 3 years old now, so should have a reasonable chance of survival. It's difficult to collect all seeds from hepaticas because when they are just at the point of ripeness, they drop off. I do resort to little muslin bags over the ripening seed heads to collect them (Ashwood do the same with hellebores in their garden). It's a bit of a fiddle to set up but worth it to collect from special forms.
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here some more blue flowers:
top: H.nobilis; H;nobilis var.pyrenaica; H.trans.'Blue Jewel'2x; H.trans.'Blue Eyes'
botom: H.'Cobalt'; H.'L.P.Blue'; H.nobilis; H.japonica; H.trans.'Blue Eyes'
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What a show Chris !
Your pictures show the blue real well !
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Great shot Chris-by the way is there a problem with your Web Site,I don't seem to be able to get it??
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I Googled it and got this link
http://home.scarlet.be/veen.helleborus/ (http://home.scarlet.be/veen.helleborus/)
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Thats a great comparison shot Chris - and beautiful flowers!
Some nice Hepatica at the AGS show in Kent on 17 March
All forms of H japonica
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I Googled it and got this link
http://home.scarlet.be/veen.helleborus/ (http://home.scarlet.be/veen.helleborus/)
Mark, thanks for that. It is the Link under Chris's signature panel that doesn't work.
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Tony nice pics and plants thanks for showing.
David I have no problem with the link from Chris line. Maybe You need to put http:// before?
Joakim
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I was in Sweden but left just befor the hepatica started to bloom and only saw one in our summer house. :(
But that one was really nice if I may say so. :) I am not able to give it the correct color so I used a primula with the same color as referense.
It is the same color of the blue/purple crocus that is sold bloming in a pot for a 1£ or 1€ depending on country.
They the hepatica the crocus and the primula have very similar coulor and it would mabe be nice to have the three together?
Enjoy
Joakim
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I did have the time (or took it) to sneak in to the botanical gardens in Lund Sweden where they have some hepaticas.
They have used hepatica transylvanica as border between the walk path and the end of the flower bed.
They also have some new? hepatica nobilis? that was bloming there. One was a red hepatica and then there was a white that I did not catch in focus but let You see anyway. They also had some blues that I did not catch well either but I will show blues later so I spare Your eyes that.
I took it with bad light but it was either that or not at all. :) :(
transylvanica X2, Hepatica red and hepatica white
PS the botanical garden is nice and if You spend some time in Copenhagen take the train and visit Lund.
It is a 60minutes train ride and then You have a nice small university town with a huge university. You will also then go on the Öresund bridge that unite Sweden and Denmark.
Joakim
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Finally the hepatiocas I have on my south facing balcony in a pot together with heleborus.
One is light blue and I show it in half bud and a few days later in full bloom.
The other is the normal blue of hepaticas.
That all folks
Joakim
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I have never been into Hepatica, I beleive that most Swedes look at them as "to common" for the garden. But I must say that I enjoy the blue carpets that right now is starting to form in the forests of the Stockholm area!
OK, this have changed seeing these fantastic pictures on the forum, you have got me addicted ;)
I have found this Swedish Hepatica nursery
http://www.hepatica.se/undermenyer/index_englisch.htm
(hope they are better plantsmen than spellers)
What do you say about the prices, would it be cheaper to buy them in UK?
Cheers
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Per Åke I must protest.
I think hepaticas have been grown in gardes for a long time in Sweden!
I know we have done it, and recently it has become a bit of a fashon as can be seen on Swedish forums.
Not everyone has acces to the lovely blue hills of hepaticas and they are getting further from people as more and more are city people. The hepatica is seen as a sign of spring that is a true sign (snowdrops can bloom and then there will be snow again). And generally spring is always very wellcome in Sweden with the light and maybe some wormth.
I think that the big change now is that people are willing to pay for them and not only take them from the forrest (that is not allowed in (southern) Sweden). There have been cultivars of pink and red as well as doubles that are hardy in our climat (and there still is) for a long time that has been going around in collector groups and not much in the gardencenters or the professional plantsmen. But there are other Swedes in the forum that also have an interest in hepaticas as can be seen on their webpage.
The non hardy Japanese has been of less interest since we do not have that much "under glass" in Sweden. It is generally to cold so the wonderfull japanese have only been with a few only.
But hepatica nobilis and hepatica trans. have been grown for a long time in many nice forms.
Kind regards
Joakim
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I mentioned that web site late last year. I got some great Hepaticas from him
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Mark I presume the dotted one You showed earlier comes from them?
"Prickel" or something.
Joakim
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Yes
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I have noticed your protest Joakim ;) I think you are absolutely right in that there is a growing interest in Hepatica among plant interested people in Sweden. But I still believe that Swedes in common don't find them garden worthy. Most of the Hepatica breeding work in Sweden has been done by Severin Schlyter who sadly died last summer. He used to offer seeds from a lot of different crosses each year in our Swedish seed-ex. I'm embarrassed to say that I never ordered any, I just didn't realize the true value of these offerings :-[
I think I have read that Severin's plants and breeding programme has been tranfered to the agricultural university. I can only hope that they recognize the value of his work better than I did!
Cheers
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Per-Åke: I thought that I read in the STA (Swedish gardening association) magazine (the one with the seed list) that Severin's Hepaticas had been donated to Wisley Garden in the UK..
We have wild Hepaticas in the wild part of our garden, but it's still 2 weeks before the flowers emerge...
I have a few others, e.g., one white flowered called Tamsa from Estonia, transylvanica and here's a couple of pictures of one I was given from a lady whose mother had had it in her garden for at least 50-years. It's just called "Fylt Rødveis" (or double red anemone, although not what I would call red...).
Stephen, Malvik, Norway
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Stephen
Nice flowers :)
Is it light pink as in the second or is it more pink as in the first.
It is always hard to get the true colours on hepatica I think.
Very nice and well growing.
Thanks for showing the Scandinavian interest in hepaticas :)
We have a nice one in the summerhouse that is pink that gets lighter pink towards white as the flowers become older. I hope my mother can take a picture of that.
Per Åke Please share the blue meadows with us less fortunate, not having them close by.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Thanks for the clarification Stephen, Wisley makes me feel a lot better about the continuation of Severin's work :)
I will sure try to photograph the "blue carpets", but at least in Stockholm there are still some weeks to go! It's quite interesting that these native plants not are fooled by an early spring, they have some kind of built in calendar telling them when to start growth and flowering! I guess that it has to do with the length of the day!
Cheers
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Hi Chris,
I was wondering could you possibly post your Japanese Hepatica society website address I have lost it.Thanks.
Best Wishes.
Guy
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I am not Chris but here is a link to wonderfull hepaticas that is Japanese.
It is more pictures if one click around on the cite.
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~sainohana/newpage6.htm
Even if it not the right one enjoy
Kind regards
Joakim
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I'm not Chris either, but here is a reply that Diane W. made earlier in the thread, I think the link is the one you want, Guy : www.ihsj.org/ (http://www.ihsj.org/)
The url of the International Hepatica Society is www.ihsj.org/ (http://www.ihsj.org/) but they still have no link to the word "English" on their homepage. So, instead of going directly to their site, do a Google search for
International Hepatica Society, and click on (Translate this page). Google has a Beta version of
a Japanese translator and it isn't bad, though it takes concentration to understand some
of the technicalities in the article on breeding for doubles, and English seems to need more space than Japanese, so there is doubling up in some areas.
Then click on the word "Japanese". I didn't do this last year as I assumed the articles would all be in Japanese, but they are all translated into English by Google. This will lead to the menu which includes cultivation - 5 articles from different places in Japan - this is necessary because of the climatic differences - for instance, Tokyo with its hot steamy summers requires a different method of growing.
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Joakim, that is a super site that you give the link for, Thank You!
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Stephen
Nice flowers :)
Is it light pink as in the second or is it more pink as in the first.
It is always hard to get the true colours on hepatica I think.
Very nice and well growing.
Thanks for showing the Scandinavian interest in hepaticas :)
We have a nice one in the summerhouse that is pink that gets lighter pink towards white as the flowers become older. I hope my mother can take a picture of that.
Per Åke Please share the blue meadows with us less fortunate, not having them close by.
Kind regards
Joakim
My "colour memory" is not one of my strong points. I'll check and report back when the plant is in flower again in a few weeks.
Hepaticas are quite commonly grown in gardens here. If you come from an area with Hepaticas (Blåveis in Norwegian), it's nice to grow a few plants as a memory of the home area (plants from friends or wild collected). Keener gardeners will often grow other species (particularly transylvanica) and cultivars. Plants are sourced from other gardeners - can't remember having seen Hepaticas in garden centres here.
A sign of spring is when the local paper shows a picture of the first local kids to find a Hepatica flower (and, earlier Coltsfoot or Tussilago). However, it's not uncommon for kids to stumble on a flower in midwinter - they might have trodden on a plant and the unopened flower has appeared. Most people are unaware that the flowers form in the autumn.
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"Tensei" - unfortunately mine is only photo :(
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I bought a half dozen lots of hepatica seeds from Ashwood. They don't normally sell seed
overseas, but I assured them that I knew the odds and would not hold them responsible
for non-germination.
9 months after sowing, I had one henryi and two transsylvanica seedlings. They now have
true lobed leaves.
This is the second spring, and one insularis has just germinated. Nothing has happened
yet with yamatutai or pubescens.
However, I have a query regarding H. asiatica. There is a tiny seedling in the asiatica pot,
but it seems to be producing one minuscule lobed leaf as its first. Could this be a
hepatica? Does asiatica not have the usual hepatica cotyledons for the first year?
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That link in japanese is absolutely amasing. Hundreds of forms and also information on breeding, sowing of seeds, cultivation and a blog about Hepatica breeding. Thanks Joakim. By the way, how did you find this site?
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Razvan one sleepless night I looked through several pages from a google search on hepatica or hepatica nobilis. It was more than 20 pages of search results that I went through and this is the only one I thought was something to have.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Try to search yukiwarisou in google. It means hepatica in Japan.
You find a lot of Japanese sites.
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I lost sleep after that link. How... HOW do they do this? Is it a magic or mutagen?
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Hello everyone;
Just looked through the japanese hepatica website after translating using google. Unfortunately you get phrases like this :
"Each of them is a first flower of this year", most the top yesterday is the flower which has the impact which you spoke. Stating public × (first jumping) it is separation of the standard flower."
What the....?
Wish I knew someone who could translate.
Lori
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Hi Lori, nice to hear from you, japanese is not only another language sometimes I think it's another world, if you now the japanese word for Hepatica is Yukiwariso and that means Breaking Snow Plant, I try to learn some japanese and I learnt nothing so dificult as that, today I learn the word 'shiro' that means white,
here two who dont need translation, H.nobilis 'Rubra Plena' and H.'Petersen'
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I try to learn some japanese and I learnt nothing so dificult as that, today I learn the word 'shiro' that means white,
Chris, learn Japanese, you translate the names of my Hepaticas.
The first riddle for you...
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Ewelina
I see you use wood chipings to top-dress your hepaticas. I was wondering what compost people use in cultivating hepatica in pots? Also I am curious about the hardiness of various forms. Are the japanese forms less hardy than the european and american ones? Do they need protection over winter? It would be interesting if people would give examples of minimum temperatures and the way they grow the hepaticas: protected and in pots, unprotected in the garden, covered with various materials and in the garden, etc.
I am also curious on the requirements for water vs drought issues in summer. Which species/forms would you say is most likely to survive and still thrive after a summer drought.
From the japanese breeding pages I understand that those great forms produce seed. Does anyone have experience weather the seeds breed true to name? Do you get seeds from these japanese forms or they only multiply by division.
At the moment I am only growing ordinary forms of transsilvanica and nobilis collected here in Romania. But in future I hope to get some japanese as well.
Razvan
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Razvan,
The photo with wood chipings is from the show in Germany. They were used as decoration and keep humidity in the pots. We plant Hepatica (the japanese forms too) in humus soil with lime. The best is the soil from forrest.
We plant japanese hepatica not only in pot, but in garden too, especially, if I have more pieces from the variety.
I must say, that they grow much better in the garden, if they don't have surface limit. I have some japanese varietes for a long time on my plot and they wintered good under covering from spruce's branches. If time let me to make the photos, I try to upload they on the forum.
Not all forms produce seed, only the single and not all the singles. Some varietes you can use only as mother, because they don't have stamen. Therefore the most varieties you can reproduce only by dividing and therefore they reach so high prices. If you can reproduce some varietes from seed, only small percent is similarly as the parents. On the show by Peters, he showed some his hybrids. They was absolutely superb. In any case you can see the photos.
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This is a very long link from Google but look at the leaves especially the flower with a ring of tiny leaves
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://yukiwarisou.net/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dyukiwarisou%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://yukiwarisou.net/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dyukiwarisou%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG)
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Nice site Mark I also found it but only now when looking for the leaf one I found an interesting page on it where they show repotting and division of a plant.
The other one I found was an auction site with some nice prices and some prices that make me want to be a millionare in pounds.
It is this one. Also a long adress
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.yukiwarisou-tachi.com/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dyukiwarisou%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DN
There is also an interesting hepatica diary there.
here is an other site with laf forms http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.info-niigata.or.jp/~anno2311/index/index2.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=10&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dyukiwarisou%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den
Lot of hours can be spent on these sites.
Enjoy
Joakim
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some are very cheap 1000 Yen = £4.36 = 6.64 Euo/$
I want a yellow one. Photo (C) http://yukiwarisou-tachi.com
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You've been at it again, haven't you Mark? :o
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I've just been looking at the website Mark recommended, specifically the bit about repotting. What is it that they use as a potting medium (sorry - 'business earth'!)?
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Lesley do you mean posting ugly flowers?
I would like to know what it is too. It does look like fired clay
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Leasly if You talk about Mark and photoshop You are wrong! :)
It is even worse for me since hepatica in Swedish have blue in the name.
Maybe a yellow blue flower would be the national flower since it has the colors of Sweden or atleast the flag.
Mark that Gold? I did not see it at the auction but they had an auction with only Yellows!!! None as strong Yellow as the Gold?.
They where not that expensive from 6000 yen for 2?
I did not find any for 1000 yen but quite a few for 2000 yen that is 13€ and hence affordable. The minimum order of 20000 yen plus a 1000 for shipping is also affordable, though not cheap.
I feel rich since I finally got the money I should have had last month this month, but most likely not rich enough :(.
If I knew that they would be able to grow outside and that the slugs would stop eat at them I would have a go.
Dangerous sites those. Make a craving that is almost impossible to withstand.
Joakim
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did you ask about minimum orders? That is only £100 and that is 3 choice snowdrops or one new Narcissus in a catalogue I have. I feel itchy fingers coming
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Mark I did not ask!
I saw the "shopping rules" where they said minimum order 20 000yen. "Shipping" 1000 yen. That might be handling only and the actuall shipping may be added. I do not know the price of shipping but it can be very expensive.
I was thinking 2 blues doubles and some pinks and some white and still have some money to play ith to fill the 20000. I do not think I will buy anything. Must be carfull with money :(
Yes it is not huge sums compared what some people pay for galantus or harcisus unfortunatally I am not "some" people though I am very tempted. Unless one choses only one hepatica and them still the 20000 yen is not enough.
Kind regards
Joakim
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I've just been looking at the website Mark recommended, specifically the bit about repotting. What is it that they use as a potting medium (sorry - 'business earth'!)?
This potting medium used in Japanese nurseries is a strangely yellow inorganic composite, can't remember the name. I am not sure if it is man-made or volcanic in origin, but it is softish and crushable between fingers. Most plant I have had from Japan are planted entirely in this medium. They use this stuff for potting everything, shrubs, bulbs, the lot. I have tried it and found it impossible to grow in as it is very quick draining - the Japanese water their hepaticas three times a day. They use liquid feed very frequently, as this medium has no nutrients at all. It's a sort of hydroponic system. The nearest equivalent medium available in the UK is Seramis which I believe some UK growers use neat or as an additive to compost for growing certain plants, mainly cushions I think. I don't think it would be any good for woodlanders or bulbs. Seramis is expensive but I was told that Tesco premium quality cat litter is the same stuff (clay granules). Don't get the cheap stuff, it disintegrates when in contact with water!
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I was wondering what compost people use in cultivating hepatica in pots?
I grow nearly all my hepaticas in pots, as they get eaten by slugs in the garden. Also I can enjoy the forms better under cover. They are all hardy with me, although I think the Japanese ones may not be so hardy in areas much colder than Britain. There is much information on cultivation on Ashwood's website:
http://www.ashwood-nurseries.co.uk/hepaticas.htm
On this site, you will also find plants and seed to order, somewhat cheaper than Japanese sources! They will post seed "in the green" for best germination results, but you need to get your order in as soon as possible. I use their recommended mixture in pots: equal parts: loam/leafmould/perlite and I also follow their cultivation system.
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Mark I wasn't thinking your hepatica was ugly, far from it, a beautiful flower in fact but yellow? Mmmmmm?
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Diane, instead of cat litter try Ultrasorb you can get it from Garden Direct it is £14-50 for 25ltr it is like Seramis.
Derek
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Hepatica nobilis var. japonica "Tamamushi" in the garden.
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Hello,
Good yellow Hepatica (var.japonica) in Japan can go for extremely high amounts. A friend in Japan who sends me divisions of many select forms says his first (many years ago) yellow cost him $500+ and that was just a seedling that had bloomed one time. Seedlings now go for around $30-50, with mature plants still around $100-300.
The potting medium they use is a mixture of three types of 'sand', as my friend calls it. He sent me a sample of it and It seems very similar to turface, fired clay. I use this same medium for my potted Hepatica now, but I have changed it to suit my climate and care. I use 1/2 turface, 1/4 crushed granite (chick grit-medium), and 1/4 good leaf mold. This drains really quickly but the leaf mold holds enough residual moisture so the plants don't need constant care. I then fertilize every three weeks or so when I remember.
I can winter H.japonica here in Kansas (-10F on average), but they dislike the native soil so they die out. The native species, americana and acutiloba do really well, but some americana like a sandy soil. H.nobilis does not grow out of pots for me, but transilvanica spreads very well in the ground.
If anyone is interested I am willing and eager to trade divisions or seed, especially for hybrids and transilvanica forms.
I also select and cultivate many forms of acutiloba. I have spent several years visiting sites in the spring to select forms with nicer colors and shapes, and then in the summer to select for leaves. Most of what I see of acutiloba are really pale purples and pinks, or most often white. With some effort really good pinks and purples can be found in the wild (pictures later).
All the best,
Aaron Floden
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I've asked the peron in Japen about getting plants from him/her but have had no reply. Maybe no English is spoken
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here two Chinese Hepaticas flowering at this moment: H.yamatutai white double and H.henryi pink double
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Chris you beat me to the double form of Hepatica yamatutai but I'll show mine too as it has a hint of pink
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SO, will Chris' H.yamatutai white double look like Mark's when it is more open? There seems to be tremendous variation in these flowers at different stages of growth, we've already had some talk of the difficulties of comparing like with like, haven't we? The outside petals are more pointed in Mark's, are they not? I didn't realise the doubles were as variable as the semis and "monstrose" ones.
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Hello,
Here are some selected forms of Hepatica acutiloba, americana, and one japonica. These are just wild types and a few years breeding should develop even better forms and colors, but it will be years before they approach the multitude of forms and colors of the japonica types. I have a flat of 2 year olds that should all bloom next year if I get to potting them on soon.
1-4) H.acutiloba selections - the stamenless plants are rarely encountered.
5) H. americana from Tennessee. Large leaves and flowers.
6-7) H. acutiloba forms
8) H. japonica pubescens "Tanchou-bai" with red pistils, exact info, ((H. nobilis var. pubescens or "ke-suhama-sou) seedling and originally from Mt. Rokko, Hyogo Prefecture (West Japan near Kobe):
This kind of hepatica is called "ke-suhama-sou". "Ke" means "hair" as the leaf of this kind is hairy and "suhama" comes from the round shape of the leaf (not a sharp triangle shape as of "misumi-sou" or "oo-misumi-sou") and "sou" means plant. This one is named "Tancho-bai". "Tancho" is a crane with red feathers on the top of the head and "bai" means cherry blossoms. This flower has red (wine red) pistils with white petals and it looks like a red-topped crane and the flower has a good and beautiful shape as a cherry blossom. Red pistils are seen only on some pubescens populations and it is very unusual among Hepatica).
9) H. americana selected for leaves
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Aaron,
Beautiful!! The flowers are lovely in all their forms, and the leaves are worth growing the plants for anyway (and you get them for so much longer than the flowers! <grin>). The doubles certainly are double aren't they?
Thanks for the pics. Enjoying them immensely.
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I found lots of Hepatica's in France last week - mostly blue ones
and never in great quantitiy, but in one spot I found hundreds
of white plants:
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Thomas,
With the odd little blue one in there as well, just for contrast. Lovely picture of them in the wild. Must be delighful to walk through that sort of show.
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This is the last to flower of my hepaticas.Nobilis Picos strain.I thought that you might like to see some of the different leaf markings of the now mature plants.
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I thought that you might like to see some of the different leaf markings of the now mature plants.
You thought right, John! What a super variation in their leaves. Just as fascinating as the flowers.
Your H. nobilis Picos strain is very elegant, hard to beat a simple white bloom, isn't it?
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It's amazing how fast the leaves are coming up just now
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Beautiful!! Just beautiful!!
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I have been for the first time this year to my summer house and garden. Many of the hepaticas are not yet in full bloom, but here are some bicolor forms:
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I have been for the first time this year to my summer house and garden. Many of the hepaticas are not yet in full bloom, but here are some bicolor forms:
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Sorry, it is some time I visited the forum and I cannot manage to post more than one image per message. :-\ Hannelotte
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One more blue and white:
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And so the last for to day:
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Hello, Hannelotte, I hope you had a lovely birthday and it is good to know you are getting out to your summer house to see the flowers, because it means that WE will see the flowers, too!
How well the blue of the hepaticas stand out against the leaf litter, and the leaves will be giving them good feeding, too.
As to the posting of more than one picture, I know that it is tricky to remember it all after a break!
After you have clicked "Additional options" and "Browse" to post one pic, then click "more attachments" to open other browse buttons , up to ten in total.
Cheers,
Maggi
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Thank you, Maggi!
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After you have clicked "Additional options" and "Browse" to post one pic, then click "more attachments" to open other browse buttons , up to ten in total.
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There is a lot of scrolling - read the comment, scroll down to examine the picture, scroll up to read the next comment, down for the second picture, and so on.
When I was posting several pictures, I tried to put the comments between the pictures but was unsuccessful.
Is it possible to do this?
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Yes, Diane, it is possible, see the Help at hand for posting to the forum in the General Admin page. I'm short of time now, just off to work, but briefly, instead of just adding the pix at the end of the post, you may insert them in the text by using "attachthumb=1" "attachthumb=2" etc, only using the [] brackets, I can't show that coreectly here or the program will look for a pic file... then add you pix in the order you want them to appear by the usual browse, add, method,
Cheers in haste,
Maggi
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Do you want to see some cultivars of three Swedish Hepatica?
The first one - my favorite - is 'Maj-Gull' - a very slow grower. Then there is the darkviolet double 'Gun-Britt' and a double white.
Hannelotte
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Oooh, lovely , Hannelotte! Especially the first one!
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Hej (Hello) Hannelotte
I did not know that we in Sweden had so nice cultivars. ;D But they are not common are they? :-\
Or are they called somthing else like "Stockholm form" (second one) ???
The first is wonderfull 8) pitty it is a slow grower :'( The others are very nice too. Are they findings from the wild or from a garden? It is more if there is other than the normal Swedish hepatica nobilis in the genepool like nobilis var japonica or so, but then again the japanese cultivars are not that common in cultivation in Sweden either.
Thanks a lot for showing them. By the way are they later than the single hepaticas and do they last longer?
Sorry for the many questiones
Kind regards
Joakim
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Joakim, these cultivars are not at all common. 'Stockholm form' is pure blue, while 'Gun-Britt' is darkviolet. Every one of them has its own story. But all of them are Hepatica nobilis v nobilis.
I got these plants from a friend, who because of illness has to leave her garden and she thought that her (now mine) plant of Gun-Britt was the last being left. Previous divisions have died with their owners.
'Maj-Gull' you can find in five/six gardens in the Stockholm area, but hardly else where. About the white one, I don't know more but that it was found in the surroundings of Stockholm.
There is one more fine cultivar 'Taellberg', which my friend found herself and I am the only one in Sweden who got it. But Ian Christie got a division of it last year, so it is also represented in Scotland. ( the image is an old one from last year)
:) Hannelotte
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Hannelotte thanks for the answers and the nice story behind the plants :)
I had seen stockholm form and tällberg form on Your webpage but do not remember Maj-Gull or Gun-Britt but my memory is not as good as it should. I will have to revisit Your webpage 8)
Kind regards
Joakim
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I've had unexpected success germinating some NARGS exchange seeds of
Hepatica insularis and H. maxima. Of the four insularis seeds, two have
sprouted.
They arrived this year in mid-January and I sowed them and kept them warm in my
kitchen for two months, then put them in the fridge ten days ago. They just
have roots so far, but I'm delighted as I have never had success with late
seed before, and even fresh seed germinates very erratically.
I guess I should add information about the rest of my experiment.
I took half of each lot of seed and kept them in my unheated greenhouse where
the temperature is comparable to outside, but frost-free. (between 4 and 10 C in winter)
None of those seeds has germinated yet.
None of the H. nobilis mix seeds have germinated, whether kept warm or cold. They
were from a different donor, so their behaviour can't be compared to the two
Asian species.
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I have quite a few Japanese doubles I wouldn't mind swapping for some of the double European forms or the double Chinese forms. Anyone interested? :)
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hello all,
it is a long time that you hear from me, I build a new alpine house for my japanese Hepaticas and other shade loving plants.
In my new house the first Hepaticas show a few flowers
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Your new alpine house looks well thought out.
Beautiful hepaticas also.
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Very nice!
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That is really beautiful. What a lovely way to grow and display your plants. Beautiful!!
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Hello Chris,
Good to hear from you again !
Big difference to when you showed me the foundations back in January ! You've been a busy boy ! It looks great, even somewhat in Japanese style... ;D
Now that this work is finished there will be no excuse to post more pix of Hep's and Pleione ;D
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jealousy comes to mind
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tell us more about how you have planted your collection - pot mixture, pot type, pot size
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What a stylish design of glass house. Such beautiful plants deserve a fine house to live in!
Is this all custom-made to your design?
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Very classy and fits in well in the garden. Bet you are pleased. I too am very interested in how it was designed and constructed. Can you give us some details please?
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I don't want to speak in Chris's name - I'm sure he will respond when he can, but I know he did it all by himself : my admiration is huge :o
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My admiration is even 'huger'....!! :P
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no mine is huger!!
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and I'm the fat lady, singing.
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we need a European/world trip some year to visit all the people who post in here
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A lovely set up Chris, I am most impressed please tell us more.
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thank you all for the nice words, i try to tell something more about it first i take my dictionary duth-english.
I had in mind a 8 side alpine house but I never set anything on paper.
I start in januari to pour concrete and than when the weather was good I start to build with boulders 8 sides of 1.5metre, 1 row in one day because otherwise the mortar slips away. Inside I use pebbles to make my tables wich I filled with coarse sand to plunge in my pots I use mostly brik pots espeacialy for my Hepaticas and Cypripediums.
I had the luck to now someone who was breaking of a big greenhouse +/- 50m² and with that material I made the construction, a lot of work but nice to do, I used about 240 nutted bolds (is this correct English?) the glas was also recycled and the first 5 pieces I broke afther that I bought a good glascutter and than it was easy??
Rita,my wife said that I have a lot of patient, maby that is truth but if you think good before you start than mostly everything go well,
tommorow I try to make some time to tell more about pot mixtures etc.
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Chris, I understood that perfectly, you made yourself quite clear, Thank you.
The construction of the sides and roof panels from old materials must have been very tricky... Rita is correct, you must have a lot of patience! 8) You are obviously a very neat worker... the finish is very good.
It seems the design is both pleasing to the eye and also effective from the plants' point of view... so often these two things do not go together but you have achieved it.
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thanks Maggi,
in Japan the mix they use for Hepaticas is 1 part Akadama (loam pellets), 1 part kanuma and 1 part kyriu, I find these things in a bonsai centre, these things are expensive so I take one part of each and also a part coarse sand and 1 part well rotted leaf, I repot every 2 years in brick pots 15cm wide and 17cm high, at the bottom 2cm drainage. Divisions are made when I can, I pul the plant in 2 or more pieces, I never use a knive.
Mostly I repot in october,than the new roots start to grow, sometimes in spring when the flowers fade away.
After repotting I give a little water with 10-52-10 fertiliser and I start to give more fertiliser (6.5-6-19) when most of the flowers are open.
I hope this will satisfy, maby there are other persons with other methods?
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Chris thanks for letting us know how you built your glasshouse. Now I know I'm even more impressed as I can't imagine how tricky this would be having to create this from recycled parts - all those awkward angles. Well done!!!!!!!!!!!
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Very nice work!!!!!!!
I just saw my plants today and then I see Yours in that lovely invironment it is truly impressive.
I hope to see a lot of pictures since hepatica is the bearer of Spring in Sweden and now it would be nice to have a bit of Spring feeling.
Thanks and kind regards from Sweden
Joakim
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Does anybody have some information about Hepatica falconeri? And where can I get some seed?
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Hepatica jap.'Hanu Kage' gives normally no pollen but this year I repot and divide the plant and I have a few pistels with pollen, I will use the pollen for pollinate two other plants who have now some flowers, the results I show you in 4 years I hope,
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Hi Chris, I have also been re-potting my Hepaticas and use two parts John Innes sterilised soil, one part peat, one part Melcourt composted bark and one part perlite. I use plastic long toms either one litre or two ltrs, at this time I also remove leaves with great care cutting them away as near the base as possible, I find that if I pull them they sometimes take a bud away as well. cheers Ian the Christie kind.
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Hi Ian, I never used peat, I water well and be afraid that the plants will rot, I cut leaves only when they are sick, most of the leaves I cut after flowering when the new leaves are coming, I also have tryed to pull the leaves and take some buds away.
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Hi Chris !
Some beauties already out I see.
Isn't this very early ???
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Hello Chris;
Beautiful! The pics were an inspiration.
I have a few hepaticas which I do not think will survive the winter here (zone 5) so have planted them in pots. The mix is quite organic however, and I think I may change to the material you are using. Out of curiosity (and I realize off topic), what mix is used for the cyps?
Lori
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Hi again, these potted hepaticas are under cover for most of the year and we put them outside in the rain for a few weeks. I do use leaf mould instead of peat when I have it. I add some pictures taken today. Ian the Christie kind
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Chris, I would be interested to know please what you used for the base of your plunges (ie on top of you pebble columns)
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hi all,
Luc a lot of my plants give a few flowers in october and november, especially the ones I have repot in september. After these first flowers the plants go in rest and the major flowers appear in januari - februari, it is the first time I try to cross these early flowers.
Lorri the mixes I use for my Cyps. are more or less the ones I find in the book of M.Phillip Cribb, mostly his mix A: one part loam pellets, one part vulca (pumice gravel), one part leaf mould mixt with rotten wood and one part coarse sand.
David my plunge beds are filled with coarse sand about 2.500kg at the bottom 5cm drainage than 15 cm sand, 75 meter porious pipe and another 30cm sand.
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David my plunge beds are filled with coarse sand about 2.500kg at the bottom 5cm drainage than 15 cm sand, 75 meter porious pipe and another 30cm sand.
Chris, sorry I did not make myself clear. At the very bottom of your plunge does the 5cm drainage rest on, for example, concrete slabs??
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David, sorry I haven't red your reply well, on the botom there is 4 cm concrete with a iron net,when I made this I used wine corks for making holes in the concrete
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Thanks Chris, that was the information I wanted.
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I have Hepatica flowers out at the moment also and many resting buds starting to open
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Hi! everybody.I have been lurking for the past few months but dropping in occassionally.What a surprise tonight when I found hepaticas back on the menu and in such strength.
Chris I join with all of the comments already posted and congratulate you on creating such an attractive home and environment for your superb collection of hepaticas.Only they could justify such an elaborate construction.If I were capable I would copy it to the last detail.I look forward to your next postings with great expectations.
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Would it be possible for someone to place all the hepatica pictures,
from both the old and the new forums, onto a webpage? I think we
must have the best collection of photos, and if they could be viewed
in alphabetical order, or according to colour, it would be so much
faster than scrolling through all the messages each time.
Galanthus is another genus with a superb collection of photos, but
there is a snowdrop book with all the photos grouped. Hepatica
does not have its own book yet.
Maybe I should just restrict myself from opening the Forum in the
daytime when I should be working in the garden, and look only at
night.
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adding the photos isnt a problem but please not by flower colour. I could do it in a few days with permission
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I aggre it would be very nice to have all the pics in a more ordered structure.
I very fine offer from Mark I must say. I do not want to say anything against such a nice offer but ....
Maybe an alternative could be the photogallery at the main web page. They have only three hepatica pics there.
Kind regards
Joakim
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Lovely pics all!!
Chris, the 'Hakurin' is simple, yet stunning. Beautiful.
Ian, those silver leaves are glorious. Much more in the way of markings than I've seen before. I love the Hepatica leaves even when not in flower, but those are even more impressive.
Great stuff everyone!!
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Should I re-pot these Hepatica seedlings, or is it better to leave them undisturbed for another year?
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hello Rob, if these where my Hepaticas than I will re-pot them because the mosses will overgrow your seedlings, if you leave them than I sugest to remove the mosses,
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an eating fork works well
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I have repotted the Hepatica seedlings this morning. I wanted to see their roots, otherwise I would have just used a fork to get rid of the moss.
The first photo shows nine little hepaticas, and the second shows their house for the winter.
When I win the lottery I will get an alpine house like the one Chris built.
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They look good. I must go and check on mine
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This is the first time I try to send a message to the Hepatica forum, and I would like to show you one of my Hepatica japonica which flowers just now.
Maybe it does not look quite the same as when it flowers in spring, but I think it's beatiful.
It's 'Tentyou'
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This is the first time I try to send a message to the Hepatica forum, and I would like to show you one of my Hepatica japonica which flowers just now.
Maybe it does not look quite the same as when it flowers in spring, but I think it's beatiful.
It's 'Tentyou'
Welcome to the Forum Gunhild that is a lovely Hepatica. You also have a very lovely garden, and with the added advantage of being an Auricula lover.
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Hi to all, I have many Hepatica seedling some which are quite well established so we pot these up now and we also have many small seedlings these we simply potted into a bigger pot without disturbance with some good fresh compost, this was done in Sept. the seedlings now look very green and healthy so we will pot these up in spring. cheers Ian the Christie kind
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Thank you for your welcome and the fine words about my garden.
Honesly the Auriculas mostly are my husbonds, but I enjoy them to.
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helo Gunhild, it is fine to have you on the forum, I'm happy to have your adress back two months ago I have a computercrash (forgot to cut the power when there was a thunderstorm) and lost many of my contacts, it is a nice flower your H.'Tentyou'.
Rob, you dont have to win the lottery to build a alpine house like mine the most expensive on mine where the screwbolds,
I try to pot up my young seedlings in from september to november because the roots start to grow from september on
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I thought I would also point out this event here - Maggi has posted the details in the Events topic at
http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=974.0 or you can see the details at the end of my Log number 8 at
http://www.srgc.org.uk/wisley/2007/071107/log.html
We hope this will be a great event for those who love Hepatica. We chose the time we hope that many will be flowering - but are worried in case they come too early or too late!! - Hepatica don't take very well to "forcing" or other manipulations of flowering time. All being well there should be lots to see. We were fortunate to inherit the well known Schlieter collection from Sweden after the sad death of this respected breeder. And we have a superb collection of the special Japanese forms after a benefactor donated many of these :) All will be on display. Come and enjoy! - but for those who can't be with us, I'll be sure to take lot's of photos and write it all up in the log.
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hi all, I hope to come to the Hepatica event, just have to ask my boss, and hope to see some people of this topic,
two plants who flower now:it was not easy to take the photo of Yuki Warabe with the pale color, this is the best of 12 pics
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Super photos, Chris, I can count every hair!
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Beautiful pix of magnificent flowers Chris - normally I'm not very fond of green flowers, but this one is special !! :o
They seem to like their new home ;D
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Hi! Chris
Nice to see pics. of hepaticas appearing again,I don't have many out as yet.I have my ticket for the hepatica event at Wisley and am looking forward to it very much,I hope to see you there plus ant other hepatica devotees from the forum.
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the flower buds of mine are swelling nicely with some already finished
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These are one or two precocious flowers that were persuaded to open by the recent sunshine.As there is not a lot else to brighten up the the short Winter days I thought the were worth getting the camera out for.
They are Acutiloba(blue form)-Goshozakura-Kyumi-lilac seedling of my own and pubescens 'Tenginbai
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Wow,wow and wow again. Having seen your pictures last year John I had intended to buy some plants and have a go myself. Needless to say that was one of the many things I never got round to. I intend to put that right this year.
By the way the hepatica.se web site seems to have disappeared, what a pity.
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You know about the road to Hell, don't you David? I certainly do. Just waiting for the blackberries to ripen. ;D
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John what a delight to see this flowers it is really true beauty. Very well done with the seedling it is a good looking one :) Did You get more of them and if so are they very different? Thanks for sharing it takes away a bit of my homesickness to Sweden. :'( ;D ;D
David I just went to hepatica.se and it is there :obut it only has Autumn delivery if that is what You are unhappy with. :-\
Lesley it is the proverb I hate most in English >:( and I am very happy that we do not have it in Swedish ;) and I have not heard/understood it in Portuguse ::)
Thanks for this and hope to see more 8)
Kind regards
Joakim
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David I just went to hepatica.se and it is there :obut it only has Autumn delivery if that is what You are unhappy with. :-\
Joakim, I must have a corrupt link in my Bookmarks. Would you please post the link.
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David it is very difficult ??? ???
http://www.hepatica.se ::)
Click on the UK flag and then You are in :) 8). They may have changed things so the direct version into the english site is gone but this works for sure
Kind regards
Joakim
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Try this link
http://www.hepatica.se/undermenyer/buy.htm
The website says plants will be delivered October/November so it may be too late this year.
It's also worth noting that they accept payment in Euros and GB Pounds.
When I had to transfer some money in Euros on a different site, my bank charged a hefty fee.
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John lovely pics, that lilac seedling looks great
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It's not there because Niclas is working on a new web site
"we have a new website to introduce in the begining of 2008. You can choose plants from the 3 galleries and i will see if i can give a price. In spring we will have 200 new sorts and more photos for the gallery."
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Mark are You sure it is not there ? I have been looking around in the one they have hepatica.se and it seems to work?
Interesting that they are going to have more sorts 8)
Joakim
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He has changed the web address. I have the new one and was asked to give my opinions but I'm not sure he wants it publicised just yet
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Ok Mark but it seems as if the old one is working now ??? ??? Can You not see it?
Hope the new one will work as well quite soon.
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Joakim, the Link you posted for me works fine with and with an English version. It must have been a corrupt Link in my Bookmarks. Thanks very much.
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Try this link
http://www.hepatica.se/undermenyer/buy.htm
The website says plants will be delivered October/November so it may be too late this year.
It's also worth noting that they accept payment in Euros and GB Pounds.
When I had to transfer some money in Euros on a different site, my bank charged a hefty fee.
Rob, thanks for that.
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David You can always e-mail them about the plants You want. I do not think the ground is frozen yet and if the weather is good then they might be transported.
Good luck and let us know if You are sucsesfull.
Kind regards
Joakim
PS here we see the advantages with euros in the whole Europe. No bank fees and easier to pay abroad.
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Joakim, it's the wrong time of year, pocket wise, for me to buy more plants, and particularly so since I need to spend the vast proportion of the kid's inheritance on more seeds of all kinds of things; so I shall do the next best thing and drool over pictures instead. :D
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PS here we see the advantages with euros in the whole Europe. No bank fees and easier to pay abroad.
Cor! I nearly missed that, I can't let that go without comment!! Already having slipped into 'agreeing' to a European constitution without any kind of voter consent, thanks to Gordon Bean, (or is it Brown?), many of us, in the UK, would really dig in our heels if going into the Euro surfaced again. Our politicians just dare not do it (I think!) :D
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David have You not been a nice boy? Will Santa not bring any hepaticas to You?
David when we entered European Union we did a referendum but since the politicians did not dare to have Sweden outside they did not have the Euro as part of the referendum. That came a few years later when we had a bit of a recession and Norway was enjoying the oil money so people thought if Norway is doing fine so can we and we can always join later when the rest of Europe already have joined so that they can determine how we enter on their terms. It was a clear NO!
We have already promised Bruxelles to join but not really when.
I am very pro EURO and one reason is to be less dependent on US and the dollar. The other is the easy of moving (and shopping) around if there is one currency in the most parts of Europe. Hopefully that will bring us closer and eliminate the risk of war even further.
Sorry to glide off topic
Joakim
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Joakin,to answer your question,the pictures are of precocious flowers only and until the main flowering begins I will not know whether I have anymore decent results.It takes about 5yrs.before you produce a strong plant from seed that you are able to assess for its true qualities.I have about 200 growing in 1ltr.deep pots that are between 3 and 4 yrs.old and judging from the flowers that were produced last year I am not expecting to see anything exciting but one lives in hope.All of my plants are open pollinated so it is a question of pot-luck I'm afraid.Unfortunately to have something outstanding we have to look to the japanese and they come at a price as we all know,but having said that there are many very nice unamed japonicas that to many people just as attractive if not more so.It is all in the eye of the beholder as they say.
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Hi John and thanks for the information.
John I do not know what excites You but the one You show sure excite me and many more so if the others are similar You should be lucky. 8) Or did You meen that the ones that had already flowered were "just" standard blue?
Anyway 200 flowering hepaticas will make a nice view I bet. Hard to wait to see them flower, but for the one waiting for something good the wait is never to long.
There are actually some quite nice japanese that are on the site that has previously been mentioned that cost from 10€ and up to 30€ and there You have a lot to choose from.
Then there are the ones that cost 300€ and that is a bit too steep I would say.
My advantage or problem is that I can not always see which would cost 30€ or 300€ ::) 8) ;D.
Here is the link for the curious.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.yukiwarisou-tachi.com/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dyukiwarisou%26start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den%26sa%3DN
Kind regards
Joakim
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We're a LONG way from Hepaticas in this part of the world, but I am still enjoying the leaves on them, particularly of some very nice seedlings from seed received from John Forrest and Mark Smyth last year or the year before. Definitely adds something when the leaves are still there and good to look at even though the flowers are long gone.
Every time I see new Hepaticas I keep finding more that I want..... 'Kyumi' is absolutely breathtaking John G. And that lovely flat double pale yellow earlier in the discussion. And the..... (I'd best leave it there or we'll be here all night). Enjoying the fantastic pics everyone, and will definitely go and look at the new site when it is up, even if it will be somewhat frustrating as I won't be able to buy!! ::)
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I was just wondering when is the best time to buy Hepaticas? ??? I am thinking on mail ordered plants, since I presume one can buy potted plants any time (provided they exist).
I am also wondering how is hepaticas packed? ???
I am only familiar with buying orchids and they are transported dormant bare or with some spagnum.
Kind regards
Joakim
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any I have bought mail order are bare rooted but I would think potted are better. What species are you looking for?
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Mark
I am looking for nobilis and transylvanica
Joakim
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I can get you nobilis pot grown from a local nursery in small pots
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Mark
That is a fine offer I will send a PM to You.
Short version I will PM U
Kind regards
Joakim
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Hello, Folks, I have split off the posts from January 2008 into a new Hepatica 2008 page......
see here: http://www.srgc.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=1223.0