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Graeme Strachan

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #585 on: February 27, 2012, 11:22:14 PM »
Can anyone identify the following::-

1) The picture which I bought as "Warley" looks more like "White Beauty" to me.
2) I am finding difficulty in positively identifying "Milea" as being correct as Thomas Huber has no pictures in his excellent compilation of chrysanthus/biflorus cultivars.

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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #586 on: February 28, 2012, 06:08:30 AM »
Can anyone identify the following::-

1) The picture which I bought as "Warley" looks more like "White Beauty" to me.
2) I am finding difficulty in positively identifying "Milea" as being correct as Thomas Huber has no pictures in his excellent compilation of chrysanthus/biflorus cultivars.

        Graeme
Milea isn't cultivar but wild form from Milea - so it is strain and plants can varie. At least I think so.
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Re: Crocus to identify? Post them here....
« Reply #587 on: February 28, 2012, 08:50:16 AM »
Graeme,
your 'Warley' is cv. 'White Beauty'.

I have C. chrysanthus 'Milea' in my meadow. The flowers and trifid orange styles look the same as in your images.
It readily sets seeds and is one of the early flowerers. But I can't confirm my 'Milea' is true.

Janis has shown in the past C. chrysanthus from Mt. Ossa which looks rather similar to 'Milea'.
Maybe both represent the typical form of wild C. chrysanthus in Greece.
Best wishes
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« Reply #588 on: February 28, 2012, 09:07:34 AM »
Graeme, there is one pic in the Connoisseur Collection, and it looks like yours. There you'll find possibly a pic of Cr. Warley and White Beauty as well?

http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1331.msg31747#msg31747
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« Reply #589 on: February 28, 2012, 10:55:53 PM »
Thank you Janis, Armin and Lvandelft

Lvandelft - I note that the styles on your milea appear to be yellow as per your link. Presumably milea can have orange or yellow styles? I also saw your white beauty photo on the connoisseur collection thread but unfortunately it did not show the side markings.

Armin  - I will relabel as white beauty

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« Reply #590 on: February 28, 2012, 11:17:07 PM »
Graeme, looking again at your white Crocus I think it looks more like White Triumphator, which has more markings on the outside.
You may look at this link where Thomas Huber shows pictures of both.
The White Beauty I showed is ? the same as the one T.H. shows.

http://www.srgc.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5060.msg138200#msg138200

You will have to decide for yourself which one you have  :-\ :) We did have already some difficult discussions on the Forum about hybrids.
Of some hybrids only the names are obtainable in the trade but not the right bulbs.  ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #591 on: February 29, 2012, 06:20:30 AM »
Warley isn't striped, if I remember correctlu (I'm not growing it for more than 15 years) back of petals has some suffusion but not stripes.
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« Reply #592 on: February 29, 2012, 07:23:02 AM »
Crocus chrysanthus Warley
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« Reply #593 on: February 29, 2012, 09:39:32 PM »
Janiis / Lvandelft - well it certainly isn't Warley.

Lvandelft - thank you for your research, however I still favour White Beauty over White Triumphator due to petal width/shape when I look at Thomas Huber's photos.
I do realise that what you get is not always what you are expecting, however it is always nice to put a name to a plant that you are growing.

         Thanks again

             Graeme
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« Reply #594 on: March 01, 2012, 07:06:52 AM »
Graeme, the main difference between 'White Beauty' and 'White Triumphator' is the colour of the stripes, which are blue in 'White Triumphator' and purple in 'White Beauty'. From your photo I would say they are purple, but it's not clearly visible, so perhaps you can check your plants as long as they're out - hope this helps.
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« Reply #595 on: March 01, 2012, 08:58:45 AM »
Hello all!
I received this crocus a few years ago, under the name "Crous sieberi". It has hardly any apparent golden throat, neither inside or outside, and the outer petals have dark violet markings.
Could you please help me clarify which crocus it could be, in the sieberi family? Thank you in advance!
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« Reply #596 on: March 01, 2012, 09:33:09 AM »
Hello all!
I received this crocus a few years ago, under the name "Crous sieberi". It has hardly any apparent golden throat, neither inside or outside, and the outer petals have dark violet markings.
Could you please help me clarify which crocus it could be, in the sieberi family? Thank you in advance!
Zeph
At first glance I would say Crocus etruscus.  It looks great, obviously doing well for you!
« Last Edit: March 01, 2012, 09:34:56 AM by tonyg »

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« Reply #597 on: March 01, 2012, 04:52:46 PM »
 :), Spot on Tony, it really does look very good :) :)

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« Reply #598 on: March 01, 2012, 05:20:24 PM »
 :o An antique in my garden ?  ;D
I just wonder how it happened !  So it is not a sieberi at all! ...
I had received it from a small eBay UK nursery, a few years ago, as a gift after a mistake had been done with my order.
Thank you so much, dear Croconuts, I hate it when the names are just nonsense.
I do appreciate, Tony and Mark! Thanks!
Zeph
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« Reply #599 on: March 05, 2012, 09:34:57 AM »
I saw this lovely Crocus in a garden yesterday and found it lovely. I don't know which one it is (I am not a specialist). Can anyone identify it?

Thank you.
John Aipassa, Aalten, The Netherlands
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