Paeonia 2012

[chasw]

And here are a few more from the garden,the tree peaonies are now over but were gorgeous,and have rescued the other white double from the adverse weather,does anyone have any idea of its name,it was given to us a present when we moved from our previous house by a kind neighbour
 

[Hans J]

Hi Chas ,

no idea about the both tree peonies names ...
but I can help you with the name of the perrenial :
This is Paeonia "Festiva Maxima" ...I grow this plant too 

Best wishes
Hans

[chasw]

Thanks Hans ,that is very helpfull

[Graham Catlow]

Paeonia 'Soshi'

Just the one bloom this year. Purchased last year from Gardening Scotland.

[Thomas Seiler]

Looking at Olga's pictures I started doubting if my favourite peony is really wittmanniana as I got it

Oleg, your peony looks like Paeonia anomala.

[Thomas Seiler]

We have an annual discussion about this every year when I post a picture of it. When I bought it as a little seedling it was labelled Paeonia anomala. Some Forumists considered it to be P. veitchii, whilst others thought P. anomola ssp veitchii. About a month later than last year.

David, with P. anomala you are always right 
If the flowers are solitary and rarely 2, it is P. anomala subsp. anomala.
If it has 2 - 4 flowers per stem, rarely solitary, it is P. anomala subsp. veitchii

[Thomas Seiler]

First P delavayi and delavayi lutea. The lutea specimen is more than 3 meter tall.

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The yellow one might well be Paeonia ludlowii if it usually has just one carpel per flower, rarely two.

[Hoy]

The yellow one might well be Paeonia ludlowii if it usually has just one carpel per flower, rarely two.

Thomas,
As far as I remember now the flowers have anything from 1 to 3 carpels, at least when the seeds ripen. But most have just one, so maybe you are right. Is it other differences between the two?

Here is a seedling. T thought it was a cross between the yellow one and delavayi but it has 4 carpels.

[Thomas Seiler]

Trond, P. ludlowii is growing much taller than P. delavayi, up to 3,5 m. It is the tallest of all peonies. P. delavayi may reach 1,8 m and has 2 - 4 carpels, P. ludlowii mostly just one, rarely two, and its capels are bigger than those of P. delavayi.
Your seedling looks like P. delavayi.

[Hoy]

OK, thanks Thomas. I somehow believed that lutea were the tallest of the two.

[Thomas Seiler]

Did you collect the seed from the tall P. ludlowii? Then it would be a cross of course, but I can't remember having heard of a cross between P. ludlowii and P. delavayi.

[Thomas Seiler]

Paeonia delavayi var. delavayi f. lutea, a very late flowering form, always in the second half of June and usually the last one of all peonies.
Here in a combination with Aegopodium podagraria, which shows my way of natural gardening very well.

[Hoy]

Did you collect the seed from the tall P. ludlowii? Then it would be a cross of course, but I can't remember having heard of a cross between P. ludlowii and P. delavayi.

It is some years ago but I probably dug the seedling from under the yellow one (ludlowii?). The seedlings appear like weeds there.


Could these two be P  delavayi var delavayi f lutea? They are very late flowering and the latest I have of woody peonies.

[Thomas Seiler]

Yes, I think so. They can't be anything else ...   

[johnw]

Paeonia lutea v. ludlowii - seed ex Don Armstrong in 1994!  Last year Ken started to hack away at this non-flowerer and was about to remove it completely when he had a change of heart  Pardon granted it flowered on the 2nd of June and promptly sent up some 2 meter shoots from the base.  At Don's it was planted against a Magnolia grandiflora and was up 12-15ft into the canopy.  I thought he was out of his mind when he pointed and asked what I thought of the peony...

johnw