Potentilla nitida? ID needed.

[Maggi Young]

Yes that's what I think is hypartica 
The flowering stemsstart out quite short, about five cms (2inches) but then they quite quickly extend to around 10 to 12 cms (up to 4inches) and then  you seethat there are multiple flower heads on the stems.
Some of the leaves get a  bit bigger as flowering continues, too, so the spread of the plant goes from around 16 cms (c 7 inches) to around 20cms (9 or ten inches) .

[maggiepie]

Maggi, I could live with that!!!

Btw, do you know what a young Campanula zoyesii looks like?
I have one tiny plant from seed obtained last year and would like to think it might be the real thing.

[DaveM]

Didn't know plants could read, Darren....

Thanks Maggi, Helen and Darren, this plant does seem to flower pretty well, though not always as well as it did that year. There are a fair few flowers on the plant this year but only one or two open as yet. The plant is in a crevice between blocks of sandstone, over which most of it drapes - hopefully nicely ripened wood!

[johnw]

Btw, do you know what a young Campanula zoyesii looks like?
I have one tiny plant from seed obtained last year and would like to think it might be the real thing.

The real thing will be covered in aphids and weevils & slugs will be lurking closeby at night. 

johnw

[maggiepie]

The real thing will be covered in aphids and weevils & slugs will be lurking closeby at night. 

johnw

Then I suppose this isn't the real thing 

[Maggi Young]

It's a lusty baby, Helen.
On that wonderful website... The Seed Site, there are now quite a range of seedling pictures a to complement the seed photos..... there is a tiny pic of Campanula zoysii seedlings there which  doesn't enlarge, which is a shame. http://theseedsite.co.uk/sdg3.html

[maggiepie]

Maggi, first thought I had when I saw that pic is that it was one of my pics of campanula babies but have searched high and low and can't find the folder.
2009 I had around 16 different types of campanula seeds and took pics of all of the seedlings.
Thought I had posted them but can't find them anywhere.

Of course the pic might not be one of mine but it looks so familiar, maybe because the seedlings look like bluet babies.

Hopefully whatever my seedling is will flower soon.

[Lesley Cox]

I don't think yours is, Helen. The leaves are much too big and it tends to creep around right from the beginning. The pic on the seed site looks about right. On the other hand, the pic of C. chamissonis, I'm sure is NOT right. Looks more like one of the monocarpics or maybe even a Symphyandra. C. chamissonis is synonymous with pilosa, though there are different variants, some better than others.

[maggiepie]

Lesley, thanks for the input, at least whatever it is I don't think it  will be invasive.
Hopefully someone will be able to ID it when it flowers which should be soon as it is in its second year.

[maggiepie]

Here's a pic of the potentilla flower.
It's finally decided to open.

[Maggi Young]

That looks very like mine, Helen.

Was rootling around in the Archived Old Forum- as one does! and found this lovely close-up from Cliff Potentilla nitida rubra ( and of Dianthus superbus, re another thread!) ... it was here http://www.srgc.org.uk/discus/messages/4/15449.html

[shelagh]

Helen re Camp. zoyszii we've tried it several times, it usually dies on the way home from the nursery

[maggiepie]

Wonderful pic, Maggi, am still suffering vertigo after looking at some of the pics in that thread, especially the nightmare road.

Shelagh, still laughing from your comment.
Will be interesting to see what I have when it flowers.

[Hoy]

A little late in the discussion but here are some pics of Potentilla hyparctica.

http://svalbardflora.net/index.php?id=240

[Maggi Young]

Thanks Trond... that's a nice link for all sorts of plants!
I'm thinking that my yellow is  not hyparctica.... I have multiple flower heads whereas the Svalbard version has solitary flowers.