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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2007, 09:41:36 AM »
Paul,
It probably means heavy shade during your hottest season less shade when cooler. In the spring, I have low temperatures but much more light since the trees have no leaves. This is the time when the martagons bulk up.
A fact is a fact is a fact - even if it is an unusual fact. Your pot experience probably says something about your micro climate but I cannot figure out what it is.
Lankongense is fickle in my place so please note my caveat about that one.
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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2007, 10:47:27 PM »
My filled Lilium martagon, picture taken a week ago.

http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/lilium_martagon_plena_183.jpg
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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2007, 10:49:31 AM »
Magnar, has that L. martagon always been double, or is this a new development this year? I have never seen such a double martagon. I prefer the "ordinary" single type, though your double is a good colour.
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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2007, 07:18:52 PM »
It has been like this all the time. I got bulbs from a friend..

I attach a photo of another filled one where yuo can see a new bud coming out of the already opened flower.

And then a photo of the beautiful L. m. var cattaniae. 

http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/lilium_martagon_p7204737_759.jpg

http://www.lysthaven.dk/forum/files/lilium_martagon_v_cattaniae_167.jpg


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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2007, 01:04:57 AM »
The double almost looks hose-in-hose-in-hose. Mmmm. I prefer the single too, especially var. cattaniae.
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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2007, 11:06:54 PM »
Two pictures from earlier today; the true L. taliense (not "var. kaichen"), a huge lily almost 2 meters/6.5 feet tall; and L. bakerianum v. delavayi:


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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2007, 11:32:55 PM »
Magnar & Arisaema,

Fabulously beautiful lilies - and photographed excellently.

Many thanks, Paddy
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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2007, 09:58:05 AM »
Now, that L. taliense is what I call a "Big Lil"... what a beauty! :o
Seeing the L. bakerianum makes me think that ours has died out..... :'(
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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2007, 09:56:51 PM »
Arisaema,
I have problems with bakeriana. I think it cannot stand my cold winters.
Do you have any trick- like growing in a pot or do you have warm winters?
Talinense is also not quite hardy but slightly better.
It is a fabulous talinense by the way.
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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2007, 10:05:37 PM »
Magnar,
The double martagon is interesting.

You must have noticed that most Lilium have two bracts to each pedicel.

Sometimes one of the two bracts sits on the pedicel itself. Sometimes the pedicel has a secondary pedicel in which case there is but one bract for each.

Umbellate lilies have the bracts assembled as a whorl at the botom of the umbel. If one counts the "leaves" (bracts), one finds approximately two "leaves" to each pedicel.

Sorry for being long-winded but my question is: How many bracts? Do you have one or two where the peicel leaves the stem?
Do you have any green "leaf" that can be interpreted as a bract somewhere in the flower or near to it?
I hope it is not too late in the season to ask.
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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2007, 11:32:50 PM »
Göte;

I cheat ;) Bakerianum stays in a pot plunged into the ground of a unheated greenhouse during the winter, and it has survived -15C there. Previous attempts outside have never been successful, I think winter moisture is a bigger problem than frost.

L. taliense has been fully hardy here in "swedish zone 2"/USDA zone 7 for 5 years, even first year seedlings have survived. It seems it needs full sun to do well, seedlings planted in shade are much less vigorous than those in sun.

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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2007, 06:26:08 PM »
Just catching up after being away on fieldwork. Enoyed reading this thread - super pix too. Magnar's L martagon var catanniae reminded me of the deep claret coloured  martagon we found on MESE, growing in a semi-shaded spot beside a large pinnacle of limestone on Mount Vermion, and which we named 'Naoussa Boutari' after an excellent bottle of local red wine!

The plant I know as Lilium albanicum is a small thing, also seen on MESE on serpentinite bedrock on the Katara Pass; as far as I know this is an endemic.

I've attached pix
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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2007, 09:13:26 PM »
Göte,

Sorry, I was away, to Sweden, actually, and now it's too late to answer yuor questions about the filled Martagon.
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Re: Lilium in July
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2007, 05:39:24 PM »
I am not surprised. It is late in the season. I will try to remember next year.
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