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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #75 on: May 03, 2013, 02:50:19 PM »
Natalia,
Somebody certainly emptied a barrel of radioactive material there.
I observe Hepatica for years around Brno and found no
double, no red, no green, no two-coloured. I was quite
happy when I found a white one having pink anthers
in contrast to the normal white which has white anthers.

By the way, in the surroundings of Garda in Italy,
the leaves of Hepatica are strongly mottled.
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #76 on: May 05, 2013, 07:23:14 PM »
Thank you, colleagues ....
Joseph, your hypothesis, I'm afraid, is not quite true. Place in which it was possible to detect a Hepatica Pleno is 300 km from each other :))
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #77 on: May 08, 2013, 09:35:14 AM »
Josef it is nothing special in deep color range of Hepatica. The variability differs from location to location. Look at the pictures I've done at the location somewhere in Bohemian Karst. You can see blues, pure white, pink and other color forms.











Some double forms were found by Czechs at another location.

As for Italy the color and leaves depend on the location too. Here is a picture from the way to Aosta.

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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #78 on: May 08, 2013, 11:48:59 AM »
Josef,
I agree with Olga. There are many places where the populations of Hepatica show this variation where there is no radioactive contamination. Some of these populations have been around long before humans started to experiment wit radioactivity some of the Japanese ones were recorded in the Edo-period.
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #79 on: May 08, 2013, 08:42:28 PM »
Well, even a little Hepatica only better :)
Joseph, according to botanists, the edges of your pink or white forms - are more common than in our area.

gote, here a little more difficult - Japan volcanic country, it is famous for radon water sources - radon - a radioactive gas :))

Hepatica nobilis_Multy_Estonia = Hepatica nobilis f.semidouble(correct name) - selection of my friend from Estonia - Svetlana Polonskaya/
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #80 on: May 10, 2013, 12:46:51 PM »
From the recent findings of the season Hepatica - that's the option of color - finding one group consisting of 5 plants - all approximately the same color.
There are doubts - it's a virus or a healthy plant this color.
 Colleagues, tell me please - met a similar form in other places?
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #81 on: May 14, 2013, 12:51:12 PM »
There is a Hepatica nobilis 'Freckles' on Google, and Mark Smyth's H. nobilis 'Prickle' on the forum:
http://www.srgc.net/forum/index.php?topic=8461.msg238317#msg238317 reply 164
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #82 on: May 14, 2013, 04:00:50 PM »
Аnnew, thanks!
I will watch its body height and flowering in a garden...
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #83 on: May 18, 2013, 05:59:32 PM »
Talking about `Prickle´. Of course I do understand that this form has appeared many times and in many different places, but when talking about this specific name; I believe you are talking about `Prickel´. It is the name of a plant that was found in the west coast of Sweden a little less than 20 years ago. I do not remember the name of the man who found it, but he once called me up after I had written a piece about it. He was very nice. `Prickel´comes quite true from seeds, most of them has the same pattern, but some- a few- come pure white. It is not a virus involved, just a natural mutation. In my garden, it is always the latest to flower, even after the white forms that tend to be a little late. I have got one seedling that differs a little in the pattern, it looks like a heavy rain shower, but as I just wrote, most of them look exactly the same as the parent plant. The leaves are quite light green and has a very nice shape. They stay wavy for a long time. The plant is not very strong growing, but not a very slow grower either.

And talking about Hepatica colors. Here in the south of Sweden they come in all colors; purple, blue, light blue, white, pink, strong pink... They also vary a lot in the shape of the flower. Round nice petals, or more star-like ones. Some leaves are nicely marmorated or mottled, some turn more brownish-reddish green just after flowering time.

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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #84 on: May 18, 2013, 07:24:26 PM »
Thanks, colleagues  :)

According to botanists western part population of Hepatica nobilis have much more color variations.

 In the east part population Hepatica - our population is almost the easternmost - dominated by blue and dark blue colors. According to the literature  - other colors Hepatica in our forests  not find :))
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #85 on: May 20, 2013, 01:13:46 PM »
I can only agree with Susann.
I have also found the occasional white with blue spots.
It is probably a recurring mutation. They are too few to be a genetic trait.
Some mutations seem to occur again and again.
There is any number of blue Anemone nemorosa which have been found (and named)
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #86 on: June 02, 2013, 06:29:59 AM »
Talking about `Prickle´. Of course I do understand that this form has appeared many times and in many different places, but when talking about this specific name; I believe you are talking about `Prickel´. It is the name of a plant that was found in the west coast of Sweden a little less than 20 years ago. I do not remember the name of the man who found it, but he once called me up after I had written a piece about it. He was very nice. `Prickel´comes quite true from seeds, most of them has the same pattern, but some- a few- come pure white. It is not a virus involved, just a natural mutation. In my garden, it is always the latest to flower, even after the white forms that tend to be a little late. I have got one seedling that differs a little in the pattern, it looks like a heavy rain shower, but as I just wrote, most of them look exactly the same as the parent plant. The leaves are quite light green and has a very nice shape. They stay wavy for a long time. The plant is not very strong growing, but not a very slow grower either.

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I am catching up on this thread. Wow, Susann, your `Prickel´ is very nice! Nice petal shape with perfectly balanced speckles! VERY pretty!!
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #87 on: May 09, 2015, 07:56:08 PM »
With the permission of colleagues, I will continue the theme of Hepatica nobilis in our forest.
Here are some new photos and hopefully new forms.









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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #88 on: May 09, 2015, 07:58:47 PM »
Oh Natalia - such fine photos. Each flower is beautiful.
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Re: Hepatica nobilis in our forests
« Reply #89 on: May 09, 2015, 08:00:47 PM »
Some double forms have stamens with anthers, the other - only reduced stamen filaments.





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