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Saxifraga for ID
« on: April 14, 2010, 10:43:03 PM »
Does anyone recognise this Saxifrage?  It opens pale pink and fades to white.  The faded name on the label looks like 'Kasava'.  I see in the Plantfinder there is a Saxifraga 'Krasava' but without a description I am none the wiser.
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2010, 10:57:12 PM »
www.arrowheadalpines.com/white2_gallery/pages/Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Krasava'.htm    ( two photos) ...... not quite a match .... here are other cultivars with similar names but I haven't yet found photos of them....

Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Karel Hasler' .... no, this one's yellow!
Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Karlin'
Saxifraga x megaseaeflora 'Krákatit'
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2010, 11:04:13 PM »
Found this photo of Krasava which looks more like yours, Roma..... :-\
http://plantes-passion.forumactif.fr/les-plantes-de-rocaille-f17/saxifrages-le-retour-t2956.htm
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010, 10:36:49 PM »
Thanks Maggi, that looks like it.  You are amazing!    If I could remember who I bought it from I could have asked them.  I do try to note new purchases but often do not write them down before I've forgotten where they came from. 
 
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 05:27:36 PM »

Roma
Your label is correct, the plant is Saxifraga x megaseaflora 'Krasava'
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2010, 08:53:36 PM »
I have a couple of lost label Saxes could anyone ID them please?

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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010, 07:37:35 PM »
David,
I think the first picture shows Saxifraga 'Clarence Elliott' . Very similar is Saxifraga London Pride.
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 12:23:54 AM »
Or you could call them Saxifraga "A" and "B"  ;D
Lesley Cox - near Dunedin, lower east coast, South Island of New Zealand - Zone 9

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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 07:02:06 PM »
Many thanks Franz you have solved one problem for me.

Lesley, I wouldn't sleep at night if I did that ;D

I've been racking my brains and thumbing through old notebooks trying to solve the picture two problem. Possibly four/five years ago I sowed seed from the SRGC Exchange of two Silver Saxes and, of those that survived my neglect, the resultant seedlings were very similar to my inexperienced eye. I can't remember their species names but do remember that "australis" was included in one of them. I have searched through my copy of Malcolm McGregor's "Saxifrages and can only find one mention of "australis"- Saxifraga callosa ssp. callosa var. australis. Is my picture good enough to confirm if my plant is possibly this one please?
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 07:09:14 PM »
I have searched through my copy of Malcolm McGregor's "Saxifrages and can only find one mention of "australis"- Saxifraga callosa ssp. callosa var. australis. Is my picture good enough to confirm if my plant is possibly this one please?

Looks possible David - take a look at the Saxifraga Soc site here:
http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/taxon.asp?Taxon=877
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 07:19:29 PM »
I have searched through my copy of Malcolm McGregor's "Saxifrages and can only find one mention of "australis"- Saxifraga callosa ssp. callosa var. australis. Is my picture good enough to confirm if my plant is possibly this one please?

Looks possible David - take a look at the Saxifraga Soc site here:
http://www.saxifraga.org/plants/saxbase/taxon.asp?Taxon=877

Thanks for the Link Diane. It does look feasible. This is the first seedling to flower and it's a bit sparse this year.
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 08:34:22 PM »
Thanks for the Link Diane. It does look feasible. This is the first seedling to flower and it's a bit sparse this year. 

I've just looked it up in Beryl Bland's book 'Silver Saxifrages'.  She says of S callosa subsp callosa var australis:

Distinguished from var callosa by having strongly recurved oblanceolate leaves that broaden at the tip (which is almost diamond shaped)
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2010, 09:27:38 PM »
Thanks for that Diane. I think this is perhaps a better pic of the rosette of my plant.

David Nicholson
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2010, 10:03:48 PM »
David,
This is what I have labelled as s. australis superba.
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Re: Saxifraga for ID
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2011, 09:00:57 PM »
Another Sax for ID.  I got this one many years ago from Holden Clough Nursery as Saxifraga arco-valleyi 'Arco' which it definitely is not.  It sat in my raised bed growing very slowly.  Two or maybe three years ago I split it up and have 5 plants in pots now.  The rosettes are tiny and the flower stems are a bit long compared to the size of the plant.
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