AGS Harlow Show 27th February 2010

[SAXIFRAGE at LYMINGE]

Hi Luc
You will have to count better before you come to Kent. There were two large pots and four very small pots of Saxifrage.
The Saxifraga x goringana is not the correct name, The Sax shown is more likely S. Poluniniana x S. Winifred.
S. goringana is S. Winifred x S. cinerea and there are only two cultivars S. Nancye & S. Anna Beddall
The other large Sax was S. Allendale Elegance which is S. lilacina x S. lowndesii
Look forward to seeing you at The Kent Show
David

[SAXIFRAGE at LYMINGE]

Sorry I put the wrong picture in

[Onion]

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Luc,
what a dream! I always look forward to the pictures of the shows.
On picture No 6, the first plant. Can you tell the name?

Uli, I think that plant is Gymnospermium albertii
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Thank you Maggi.

[Luc Gilgemyn]

I stand corrected David !    Too much talking... not enough time to look at the plants.. 
Actually, it might be a formidable task trying to count them at the Kent show 
See you there !

[tonyg]

c vernus neapolitanus

This plant has been exhibited at Caerleon as C reticulatus and at Harlow as above.  
I have several accessions which are very similar/the same.  None of them is correctly named and neither are the plants pictured!  Crocus napolitanus is an invalid synonym for Crocus vernus ssp vernus.  It is typically purple with waxy petals, larger than the flowers on the bench and one of my favourites.  The plant on the benches is a very vigorous but otherwise poor form of Crocus vernus, probably ssp albiflorus.  It is offered in SRGC seed-ex most years as C reticulatus.  (One for Maggi to pass on to the Seed-ex guys!)
Note the spelling Napolitanus, no 'e'.
Pictured below for reference:
Crocus vernus albiflorus - similar to the form as seen at shows
Crocus reticulatus
Crocus vernus vernus 'Napolitanus'

[art600]

c vernus neapolitanus

The plant on the benches is a very vigorous but otherwise poor form of Crocus vernus, probably ssp albiflorus.  

Tony

Why do you say 'poor form'    I and several other forumists think it is rather attractive, and would like it in our collections.

[tonyg]

Its a poor form when compared to better ones!  Rather narrow petalled and small flowered, rather a waif than a stunning beauty.  It does well in the garden so it has some redeeming qualities.
Here are a few forms of Crocus vernus albiflorus that I consider better!
From various locations in the alps.  The last one I especially like.

[art600]

Well as it is said "It takes all sorts ....."

Do like the last vernus, but for entirely different reasons.

[tonyg]

Well as it is said "It takes all sorts ....."

Do like the last vernus, but for entirely different reasons.

Yes, thats what makes it so much fun.
And, Crocus vernus in the broadest sense is rather like a bag of liquorice allsorts .... many very different looking things all with something in common genetically.

[Eric Locke]

Well as it is said "It takes all sorts ....."

Do like the last vernus, but for entirely different reasons.

Yes, thats what makes it so much fun.
And, Crocus vernus in the broadest sense is rather like a bag of liquorice allsorts .... many very different looking things all with something in common genetically.

Thanks for your input Tony, but I still prefer the form on the Harlow showbench.

Eric

[Lesley Cox]

I do too Eric. I like Tony's as well, but as quite separate forms, not to be compared. The Harlow one is very attractive for its striping and the "spikiness' of the petals. It looks very good in a clump or potful.

[fermi de Sousa]

c vernus neapolitanus

This plant has been exhibited at Caerleon as C reticulatus and at Harlow as above.  
I have several accessions which are very similar/the same.  None of them is correctly named and neither are the plants pictured!  Crocus napolitanus is an invalid synonym for Crocus vernus ssp vernus....It is offered in SRGC seed-ex most years as C reticulatus.  (One for Maggi to pass on to the Seed-ex guys!)

Thanks for this information, Tony!
I hope to get a flower on C. reticulatus grown from Seedex seed (SRGC? or AGS?) this year and will try to remember to compare it with your pics!
cheers
fermi