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Pascal B

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ID needed of Nepalese Iris species plus other Iris pix added!
« on: December 29, 2009, 06:07:45 PM »
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could help me ID the 2 Iris species I photographed in the Upper Langtang Valley in Nepal at ~4000 meter? Thanks for any help.
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2009, 06:29:01 PM »
Hello Pascal. The second one looks like I. tigridia. 

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Quote from: Pascal B on December 29, 2009, 06:07:45 PM
Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could help me ID the 2 Iris species I photographed in the Upper Langtang Valley in Nepal at ~4000 meter? Thanks for any help.
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2009, 06:55:53 PM »
Pascal i think the first is iris decora,fantastic photos asian iris are my new love so thank you for posting these pics.
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2009, 07:04:09 PM »
Beautiful photos!

I think the second one is Iris kamaonensis small form (Iris hookeriana).
Iris tigridia is not listed as growing in Nepal.
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 07:03:07 PM »
Quote from: Miriam on December 29, 2009, 07:04:09 PM
Beautiful photos!

I think the second one is Iris kamaonensis small form (Iris hookeriana).
Iris tigridia is not listed as growing in Nepal.

I agree with Miriam:

The first is I. nepalensis
The second is I. kamaonensis. I have never seen this plant in collections, but last year an Aril with I. kamaoensis-blood has flowered.
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2009, 09:28:04 PM »
Gerhard am i right in saying I.nepalensis is I.decora
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 09:32:03 PM »
Davey, from IPNI : The International Plant Names Index
   
Plant Name Details

Iridaceae        Iris decora    Wall.
Pl. Asiat. Rar. (Wallich). 1: 77, t. 86. 1830
1: 77, t. 86 1830
Original Data:

Notes: =nepalensis

Id: 438535-1 Version: 1.1.2.1.1.2
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2009, 09:47:22 PM »
For those interested, both species were growing at an exposed area near the edge of the glacier at the base of Mt Langtang. Unfortunately global warming also had its effect there close to the border with Tibet and the glacier nowadays is gone completely. The vegetation consists largely of small Rhododendron species and Berberis. Remarkably the area is also rich in many variations of Fritillaria cirrhosa. I say this because there is a settlement nearby and locals usually harvest the small tubers for medicine so it is rare to see that many F. cirrhosa in a small area. The smaller Iris species was pollinated by a shiny black and red striped beetle as you can see underneath. The picture is not entirely in focus but better than no picture at all..... ;)
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2009, 10:02:42 PM »
Pascal....might you have photos of the variations in the Fritillaria cirrhosa you could share with us, please ??
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2009, 10:19:46 PM »
Maggi,

I was actually doing fieldwork on Arisaema so didn't take that many pictures of other plants but here is all I got of Fritillaria pictures. Not doing full credit to the actual variation but some were in windy spots and I didn't have the patience to wait for the wind to ease.... :-[
And it seems the ones that I did take were more or less the same. Some others in that population were very dark red and one was dark purple but unfortunately I didn't take pictures of those, sorry.

Particularly the double flowered one was unusual. If they are not cirrhosa, feel free to correct me
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2009, 10:29:45 PM »
Pascal! I am delighted with these, thank you!
I look forward to studying them tomorrow, too cold now and the light is not good with this wretched eco bulb!
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2009, 11:17:55 PM »
Quote from: Pascal B on December 30, 2009, 10:19:46 PM
I was actually doing fieldwork on Arisaema so didn't take that many pictures of other plants but here is all I got of Fritillaria pictures. Not doing full credit to the actual variation but some were in windy spots and I didn't have the patience to wait for the wind to ease.... :-[
And it seems the ones that I did take were more or less the same. Some others in that population were very dark red and one was dark purple but unfortunately I didn't take pictures of those, sorry.

Particularly the double flowered one was unusual. If they are not cirrhosa, feel free to correct me

Beautiful Frit pix!
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2009, 11:30:05 PM »
Quote from: daveyp1970 on December 29, 2009, 06:55:53 PM
Pascal i think the first is iris decora,fantastic photos asian iris are my new love so thank you for posting these pics.

Davey, I'm with you on being a fan of Asian Iris.  Fortunately for me, I live only about 35 miles away from Darrell Probst (of Epimedium fame), and now have over 170 different epimedium in my garden (I like these babies as much as Alliums), but Darrell collects lots of good things in China, and the introduction here in the US of a number of low growing spreading woodland Iris is a boon to the garden.  These are, according to John Lonsdale's wonderful website, in Iris "Subgen Limniris Sect Limniris Ser Chinenses", and include the yellow I. koreana (looks much like a bright yellow I. cristata), I odaesanensis (white, with yellow brown-outlined blotch), I. minutoaura (tiny yellow gem), and the creme de la creme I. henryi, pale blue with yellow flares.  Shall I upload some photos of these?
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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2009, 03:05:24 AM »
Quote from: TheOnionMan on December 30, 2009, 11:30:05 PM
Shall I upload some photos of these?

Mark - Please do. And when you have a chance if you could comment on the hardiness of some of the new Epimedium introductions.  May or may not be easier to note the tender ones! Have a few of the newer ones here but not outdoors yet.

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Re: ID needed of Nepalese Iris species
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2009, 08:33:32 AM »
Mark i would love to see your photos ;D what a treat
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