HARROGATE AGS SHOW 28TH APRIL 2007

[Lesley Cox]

Thanks Paddy, but no, it's not `Letitia.' It looks very like my pink `Altree Hybrid' verbascum except for colour, which is all the more reason for needing to know. Urgently!

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Paddy, Lesley,
I grew Verbascum "Jackie" at one stage which looked very simmilar - maybe with a slightly more pinkish shade...  lost it in a wet winter though...

[Lesley Cox]

Thanks Luc. I'll go with that for now and I think `Jackie' has been in NZ at some stage recently. So far as the colour is concerned, the pinks at least do change and develop according to age and weather conditions. My own pink is sometimes a biscuit colour and others it's pure raspberries and cream

[Anthony Darby]

Following DNA work on orchids by Richard Bateman and others, he reclassified Comperia comperiana (and Barlia robertiana) into the genus Himantoglossum, so now we have Himantoglossum comperianum and Himantoglossum robertianum.

 

I'm not convinced that comparing DNA should be the only criterion for determining genera, which are man-made categories anyway. Where do you draw the line. We share 99% of our DNA with chimps. In the end it comes down to whether you are a 'lumper' or a 'splitter'? Flower structure between these orchids that have been lumped into Himantoglossum is so different, which would indicate quite a gulf in evolutionary terms? It is interesting that two other genera, Orchis and Anacamptis, have had species being moved from one to the other. I have a friend who did a PhD on the genus Maniola (meadow brown butterflies). He used electrophoresis on enzymes and discovered two new European species using this method.

[Luc Gilgemyn]

Glad to be of Help Lesley !
Raspberries and cream Do I smell cake in the oven ??

[shelagh]

 :-\Oh dear Cliff, after those pictures of the traditional Harrogate picnic I have definitely got to diet.  Either that or you must give me fair warning so I can breathe in very firmly.

Shelagh

[Diane Clement]

Firstly, a big welcome to lurker Shelagh and we hope to hear more from her in the future. 

I find it hard to compete with Mr Bookercup's fantastic offering, either in terms of quality or in terms of quick off the mark.  So a few measly ones of mine, there may be a few already shown, for which I apologise.

Some woody things first
Pinus mugo Mops Midget
Pinus mugo Zwergkugel
Leiophyllum buxifolium and
Cornus canadensis

[Diane Clement]

And some orchids
Anacamptis morio

Cypripedium Gisella
and close up
Pleione aurita

[Diane Clement]

Arisaema angustatum peninsulare
Arisaema japonicum brachyspathum (I think this should now be called A heterophyllum)
Arisaema sikokianum (note missing spadix on right plant)

[Diane Clement]

Now some assorted bulbs and similar
Trillium kurabayashii
Trillium grandiflorum and close up
Iris kirkwoodiae and close up


 Edit : to change  kirkwoodii to   Iris kirkwoodiae Chaudhary

[Diane Clement]

A super pot of Calochortus amabilis

[Diane Clement]

a couple of ferns

Athyrium felix femina Minutissimum
Cheilanthes fendleri

[Diane Clement]

And to finish
Corydalis cashmeriana Kailash
Crassula socialis
Dianthus Conwy Star
Haastia pulvinaris
Trollius europaeus dwarf form


And that's it, folks

[Maggi Young]

Great to have you about, Shelagh! I was just admiring the charming photo from you of a very youthful exhibitor perusing the show schedule on the AGS site.... if it hadn't been for the pic from Cliff of the picnickers, I'd have thought that Brian had been overdoing the multivitamin supplements!

Enjoying the photos, as ever, many thanks to all you camera-toting forumists out  ! Interesting to see that many of the plants at Harrogate were also on show in Inverness, some in rather smaller versions, , such as  Cassiope myosuroides, where the Inverness one was a fragment of the Harrogate plant. Others were remarkably similar, however.

[Peter Maguire]

Having joked to Cliff and Diane at the show that it would be something of a race to post our pictures on the forum website, it would appear that I have comprehensively lost! However, I do seem to have been attracted to plants that no-one else has posted photographs of, so here are some extras:

Allium karataviense ssp henrickii
A form of Lewisa cotyledon
Primula minkwitziae
Calanthe sieboldii (detail)


...more to follow. By the way, I believe that the Verbascum that Lesley was asking about may be Verbascum dumulosum. Cecilia Coller had a large plant in one class by itself, and I'm sure that she also had a smaller one (yes, it's the smaller one!) in a three pan class. If you 'google' it, the first result is a photo at Cambridge botanic garden which has the same pinkish styles to the flowers.

Peter